Are you serious?

LadyMischief I never bought from Matrix, acacia got my name from another content provider, Im not 100% about this but I have one name for checks to go to and another to buy content from, but Im not 100% its them so Ill never post who they are. So I am 100% impartial

But I cant believe your seriously think they have nothing to gain from lying.

But that said maybe they are telling the truth maybe they just sold the list to someone who sold it on.

But you dont seriously believe that Acacia hacked in to the server (with all the implied risks involved) and all these legal profesionals are using this Stolen Illegal list instead of just buying one from the 1000's of webmasters who have them for sale, that you can buy cheaply, legally and quickly do you?

If I recall correctly (and I may not) you said...as well as a couple of other people...that you have proof that Sexed is a pedo and you/they turned this proof over to the authorities...question why hasn't he been arrested?

Carrie,

I thought you were smarter than the post above. :(


Look, if Acacia bought a list they aren't going to buy it from someone who sais "I stole/hacked it from so & so".

And do you REALLY think Acacia is above buying or trading for industry contact lists from random Joe's?

You mention they are made up of a group of lawers like that makes them a fine upstanding reputable company.

That just means they know how to properly cover their asses with any decision they make. :1orglaugh

Very specific???? :1orglaugh

Perhaps if they recieved such specific information they could have used AMP's name instead of Mr. Amputated Your Head, or hell.. maybe they would have even known that he was a DESIGNER witout video content use.


A hacker would be a "successful insider" as well, weather the company liked it or not. :2 cents:


Look.. the reason I started posting in this thread, against my will.. because I'll never buy from Matrix again - FOR OTHER REASONS, is because I can testify that Matrix was having problems with leaked account information LONG BEFORE ACACIA HIT THE SCENE.

For a group of people so hung up on finding proof of things in use at earlier dates, you are sure quick to try brush this one aside.




http://www.antipas.org/books/protest...d_at_stake.jpg

And I'm sorry if I'm ruining everyones excitement here. But most people know which side of the line I'm on in all this...

If I thought Matrix was guilty, you can trust that I would be there with the matches.

AND FOR YOU PEOPLE SO HUNG UP ON THIS WITCH HUNT, WHY DON'T YOU TAKE TWO MINUTES & ADDRESS MY POSTS THAT _DO_ POINT THE FINGER...


I have posted twice now about who (else) does have, in the very least, Matrix's email addresses.

Track THEM down.


In fact, for those of you who are or have been registered with matrix, check your TRASH or SPAM mail boxes today at those addresses....

Look for:

"Watch the teenfarm show"

This is the latest spam we have received to the matrix email addresses.

All the header information is fake & looks to be spammed from a hijacked box but it points to:

http:// aaaweh34.biz / tfgame / game.html

It's owned by somebody in Canada.



This is one of the reasons I don't like Matrix. If they wanted to, they could haved tracked these people down & forced them (at least the US and Canada based ones) to tell them where they purchased their list or hit them with a lawsuit. This could have possibly curbed the distribution of this list.

You don't see people running around offering CE lists anymore do you?

HAHAHA!!!


Now you got the nerve to still psam me with your shitty newsletters? Just give up and go away sell out!!!!

:BangBang: :ak47: :BangBang: :mad: :helpme

I'll take that offer;)

Oh don't worry, you're well on your way to getting your own. :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh

Nothing against Norman, and it's very possible that he's telling the truth, but this quesion is funny.

Well my reasoning is pretty simple. Eventually the truth will come out... It always manages to in things this ugly. If Norman IS lying, then it could pretty much complete any damage done thusfar. Sure, he COULD potentially be trying to patch holes in a sinking ship with chewing gum, in a figurative way.. But in the end the ship would still go down, wouldn't it?

He would be better off to tell the truth than to be proven a liar later, wouldn't he? At least I would hope so. I stuck my neck out in this thread a bit for Norman because I sincerely would like to believe him. I know everyone's pissed, hell I would be too. But a lynching isn't going to change things regardless.

OK so Matrix might have sold their email list, but why does the letter from acacia state to Brent Daugherty NicheMVS? No one in their right mind sells all the customer info when they sell an email list, if they sell the customer info they are a fucking stupid ass, thats invasion of privacy, jsut selling email addresses is spamming but still it does not let them off the hook for giving out the whole fucking db of our personal information.

I was joking, didn't know I did something to piss you off, if I did please bring it to the horses mouth so it can be settled please:)

Thanks

My son says accept the offer.
"you don't give a crap where you post"

So I accept $2500 to not post on GFY for one year.
and I accept $5000 to never post on GFY.
(I will trade content as well.)

Please post your replies in the thread titled "SexEducation.com" and not in this important thread....

To reiterate my question to Matrix ...
Did you give the information to Acacia expecting them not to use it?

You have blinders on and can only see one possible way that the Matrix clients could have wound up in Acacias hands, even after evidence to the contrary has been posted here - and you're relentless about it. If this were a horse race, no doubt you would win.



Have you checked your email for that spam yet?


Do you run a software or hardware (or preferably both) firewall yourself? Did you modify your application/hta folder in the registry awhile back? Did you turn off dcom?

Do you even know what I'm talking about?

Do any of you? (I'm sure JFP Dude does)

Did you guys ignore his post too?

Dude. :ugone2far

Do you even realize how much the post and questions you ask above - backs up and reinforces the idea that matrix was hacked?

I don't think Matrix intended to do anything wrong or controversial.
I think they filled out the "monthly" required sales report and Acacia did what they wanted to with the information.

I don't think it's a "hacking scheme" or a "theft" or a "conspiracy".
Acacia requested the information and used it.

I believe NLB / Matrix is an upstanding and reputable company and should sue Acacia for what is occuring here.
This percieved bad rep - will never go away.
Webmasters are pissed off about this.
Acacia has toasted the reputation of good company by their "legal manipulations"...
imo

What am I missing here? Hacked or sold it still is matrix's responsibility isn't it and isn't that what people here are trying to prove?

What happened to the theory that companies who make millions have the best security?

It's quite obvisious as a server owner msyelf you shut off all outside conenctiosn to your databases, even we have done this, its common knowledge, so I am sure if Matrix has a brain they would have done this, not many other ways to hack a database if you have outside connections disabled which makes ODBC useless. The only other way is to run phpmyadmin or the likes of it and someone finds it and hacks in through it.

Either way Matrix is the leak and Matrix has settled so that still makes them a sell out that tucked their tale and ran from the real fight. I personally have no sympathy for any company who does not fight this regardless of their situtation. I personally feel its better to ignore the acacia if you don't have the funds to fight back rather then to settle with them.

Acacia will only be able to file as many lawsuits as they can keep up with and the court will not let them go in and file 300+ lawsuits at the same time, the court could keep up, so those in court right now and have recieved a summons will be thw ones seen for awhile till they are settled I would bet on it. I doubt we see any real action from acacia in the next 3-6 months till something is settled and by then the patent will be invalidated I am sure with the first case to hit teh courtroom floor.

Everything Brent.

I thought that after calling Johny Traffic's "I know security" bluff, it would curb posts like the one above.

A passive scan to cd-media.net reveals that you have your own problems. Contact your admin and tell him to update your shit.

If he sais "What shit?" tell him "You're fired." and move to someone who knows. :2 cents:

The point I'm trying to make (and JFPdude agreed with) is that the % of people who are hackable, both on their HOME BOXES and WEBSERVERS is ridiculous.

We sell scripts & have done many installs on client machines. I know the shape peoples boxes are in, and I know the lack of concern for security many people have.

all i have to say is. with all this evidence that acacia is doing this to your affiliates without your authorization, i would be sui'ing them right now. there has been 20+ people that have said the only way they got the letter was from matrix content. matrix content, if you did not do this, sue them or it makes you look really bad

they have to sue ...
they have been fucked royally ...

but lets wait until NLB/Matrix has a chance to collect his thoughts and do his investigation ...
GFY may be 24 hours a day ...but doing business when you're the boss is on your own time ...

Just give him a chance to enjoy his family this weekend ...
he will be back at work - as usual - during his normal business hours ...

Check the topic.

I think this might be what NLB's plan is.

Find out with 100% certainty that Acacia is mailing their client list & then sue the living piss out of them for destroying his business.

your starting to annoy me. The internet is a 24/7 thing, and if something as major as this happend to me, I wouldnt be taking the day off to bbq and relax.

Btw, just got another spam to the matrix tagged addresses....

Promoting IGF2.

Subject has "make her want you again now!"


Check your inboxes. :2 cents:

I annoy ("at least") everyone ...
get used to it.

And GFY is not reality. It's just a message board of which there are thousands.

k ...will check

Btw people investigating the companies that are spamming the MC emails...

I have already done this in the past. There are only a few.

Please do not use REAL LINKS to them or their domains in the forums as this GFY forum will appear in their server logs :2 cents:

if you want to link them, use:

http:// sub . company . com / path / to / whatever.html

1129 messages ...
how the hell can anyone keep up to this level of garbage ...
FUCK I HATE SPAM ...
will look another time

Tag your emails when you give them out to sites and alert & blacklist the people/emails who get hacked or sell your shit. :2 cents:


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I'm sure you get the picture.

Yes - I do "get the picture".
But your assumption that posting my email address in threads like this is causing the problem is wrong.

Most of my spam comes from email addresses ONLY USED in the whois database of domain registrations.

The world wide do not spam list should automatically be email addresses in the whois dbase.
imo


gotta go flip some burgers have a good nite everyone

Send WHOIS's emails straight to the shitter & use a registrar that allows you to have a seperate email for your account with them to updated you of any problems.

If there is a REAL legal concern where someone needs to contact you using your whois info, they'll be doing it by registered mail & not a email spam :2 cents:

150 COMPANIES (UN?)KNOWINGLY BUYING STOLEN CONTENT PROVIDER LISTS.

I think now would be a good time to get Acacia back on the D-money show...

wanna ask them where they got my information.

:thumbsup

Carrie, you can't be serious. Do you know how many employees at companies steal company customer lists and sell them as a side business?

Every company I've ever worked at or owned we had this problem happen.

Employees are the first ones to turn to as suspects.

I know that my domains don't have my name on, but my company name and go to a box.

I know that my sponsor checks and other checks go to my box.

I know the only "people" who have my home address are content providers because of the shipping of tangible goods.

So for me ... it can't be a registrar bot, it can't be a sponsor's db, it had to come from a content provider's db.

I'm not sure who settled and who didn't so I've yet to see the full list of names anywhere. But of those Acacia listed, Matrix is the only content provider there and I have bought videos from them.

So 100% sure, no. If I knew the names of the others who settled and if any of those others were content providers, or if none of the others were content providers, I'd be better able to zero in.

For now, with what information I have currently, I can only say that it strongly points (for me) to Matrix and to no other.

*bump*

once again....

kewl ...
perfect timing ...
I was just looking for this thread...
I wanted to catch up ... ; )

I doubt they would accept.
It appears they are masters at "spin & gag" ...

It will take the equal of the Masters that exist in - this room - to show the truth.

Keep the pressure on ...
"Acacia" I'm hoping will break all records on GFY ...
The world's busiest adult webmaster board.
[fingers crossed]

Here is what leads me to believe it was your database.. as I posted in another thread..

:thumbsup , Matrix Sold us out, clear and simple