I ask this.

Say this gets settled. Say Amp gets paid.

What happens next week when someone sees another stolen design in Brad's program?

Don't you see the shit that this attracts.

Does this allow brad to go rip off as many designs as he wants, and when the owner comes-a-knocking, simply offer to pay then?

BACON STRIPS!! Ahahahaha!!!

Skid Marks... They're not just for underwear :)

:glugglug

Except that Amp didn't start this thread, I did.

Simple fact is that Brad never offered to pay Amp. I pay him highly, and it's improper to use his work without paying him regardless of how he came into possession of it.

I just don't get it... why? why? What have I done to deserve a public lynching for something I've never been given the opportunity to correct? Why haven't either of you called me? Why aren't you responding to my comments about how I thought we were friends?

Is this some SWOIT kind of rouse or what? I mean, I bought advertising on GFY this afternoon but this isn't the kind of thread I thought we'd hump to bring attention to my new program.

This hurts Lens and Amp.

Brad

Does that mean a request for payment has been made to Brad today regarding the designs, because it doesnt look like he refused payment?

:1orglaugh

This thread really irks me ...

Ok ... sure it's not a design job, but recently a certian Dialer was sold to a certian huge Sponsor Program, and while we are only still owed a few $thousand rumor has it that if you are owed $ its gonna be REALLY hard to get them..... unless you are someone big and *important* that is.

Same thing, same principle, but I haven't seen many threads on it, or it even mentioned once.

Invoice will be posted here.


coming soon....


but first.....


Brad, I want a temp pass to the members areas, so I can justify my invoice. (all of them) And a week is unacceptable. Access me now, while they are live. Otherwise I will be forced to speculate. You can email me at a/m/p/@a/d/u/l/t/./c/o/m/

remove the slashes.

Attacking the advertising again?

Somebody call Brad Shaw at home and wake him up he would enjoy this :1orglaugh

Lens and Amp both attacked him for how he handle business on here....he got fucked on alot more money and nobody offered to pay him back...but this poor bastard is getting stabbed in the back with no warning at all. Seems to me like he is having to beg...lol...funny shit

Deeprub

Did anyone privately email him and ask him to?

Amp does NOT contradict Sin's claim to attempt to pay him a YEAR ago.

Sounds like a good man to me.

I can tell you ONE THING, though.... after reading this thread I WILL NOT BE CUTTING A CHECK for advertising on GFY (I fully intented to advertise this month: I had Eric email ad rates to me yesterday). I now see how advertisers are treated.

A private phone call or email would likely have resulted in a check being issued.

This is VERY, VERY fucked up!

that hurt

i know its small please dont pick on me

This is totally fucked.

Calling someone out on this board should be an absolute last resort.

Brad is more concerned than anyone else I know about his reputation for integrity and fair dealing. Making all this public before there was a fair effort to resolve it privately is a sucker punch.

No one has yet disputed Brad's version of the facts, although some apparently think he should have just walked away from a $6,000 investment. Seems to me that if he offered compensation and Amp didn't take it, Brad's in the clear.

An invoice should have been the first thing sent to Brad's email. You should have given him a chance to pay you without dragging his name through the mud. I simply can't believe the lack of professionalism in this thread.

this is wacky

somebody lock this thread

this thread is as full as a prostitute on a Saturday night

This thread could have been avoided it seems.

oh really?

He was on notice about stolen designs. Enough said.

WAS BRAD BANNED? IF SO THAT IS BULLSHIT. :2 cents:

How much to buy this treatment for someone else who stole one of mine? :winkwink:

Where's Fantasyman and Serge when you need them.

A-fucking-men!

Then don't call me an airhead..

:)

If you guys are going to dish it out at me, don't fucking whine when I give it back


( fucking )


:Graucho

HELL yeh :)


BACONNNNNNN


(thinking of that funny ass commercial with the dog that's obsessed about the BACONNNNN)


thank god for beef bacon, I never bought that shit about it being the 'other white meat'

Let everyone know the url to to take your work from.

Pics?

Brad and Labret in the same thread? :1orglaugh

Maybe they are actually discussing the matters in private instead of playing tag on the board :thumbsup

We did have to block some Labret IPs tonite. Does he use the same?

Maybe Amp hasn't addressed the $ yet, but Brad has not addressed why he feels it's okay to launch a program with designs HE ADMITTEDLY DID / DOES NOT KNOW WHO DESIGNED.

Good summary :thumbsup

Welcome to another GFY lynching :Oh crap

Brad is a nice guy and probably the only one I would hate to have seen a thread like this .

this thread is a quick mover

He stated he tracked down the designers and compensated them and/or discussed the matter well before the program as launched. That hasnt bee disputed yet.

no one ever offered to pay me for that work, other than Duane, oh he offered all right.... which he did not do....


ass. How's your fucking foot taste.

Wrong. He stated he TRIED to track them down before launching the program. He admits, hos own fucking words, he does not know who should be paid for the designs.

Your saying because he tried, he should be able to use the designs now?

Brad, don't sweat it. Whatever is going on don't try and figure it out.....just forget about it. Pay the man and be done with it.

Yeppers, and 2/3rds of the way down on the 2nd page of this thread you tell Brad that he never should've gotten on your bad side.

Everyone sees the old thread Lens, and they see Brad offering again and again in this thread to pay up (with no response). Let Amp give the man a figure, because it's backfiring like a machine gun at this point.

Noone is coming out of this thread clean.

Why it couldn't have been handled in private I don't know. Brad must not be large enough to justify that courtesy or am I missing something ?

Let me summarize what I've gathered from this board, that Amp has NOT disputed:

Sin: Hey Amp, I bought some designs. Found out they may have been stolen from you. This sucks. What do I owe you?

Amp: Nothing. You weren't the thief, it's not your fault.

Sin: Okay, man. If you change your mind let me know.

[ONE YEAR LATER]

Lens: You're a bastard Sin! Why didn't you pay Amp?

Amp: Yeah, why didn't you, ya bitch!

Sin: What the fuck? I offered! You declined! Why didn't you let me know you changed your mind and wanted some money? I offered it to you once, why wouldn't I offer it again?

Amp: [silence on this matter]

Lens: You're still a bastard. I won't admit I should have handled this a little better. Looks like you're a good guy after all, but I've stuck my neck out and can't take it back.


That about sums it up....

as soon as I get access to those members areas wise ass. And if it comes next week, that's too fucking late. I wanna see the shit right fucking now. Before someone changes them.


christ you're fucking annoying.

<font size=+3><B>Lens & Amp</b></font>

Seeing as you didn't respond to it, i'll post it again. The car analogy seems to have been used a fair bit in this thread. So, using that analogy:

Amp sells his car to Duane, and Duane sells it to Brad. Duane never pays Amp for the car, and Brad realises, oh shit.. this car is stolen. Brad offers to pay Amp for the car, having already lost a bunch of money to Duane. Amp declines, and says he'll get the money that Duane owes him. That means Amp ends up with the cash he is entitled to. Brad gets the designs he paid for. Duane ends up with nothing.

Amp's inability to collect from Duane makes Brad the crook?

If Amp couldn't have collected from Duane, he should have invoiced Brad, <B><i>privately</i></B>. Then it would be up to Brad to collect from Duane to get his 6 grand back. Problem solved.

Why was this not done?

looks like a play or readers theater or something

I can't believe no one has posted this yet...

http://www.goatse.cx/hello.jpg

No, he specifically discussed the matter with Amp before launching the program where he was supposedly (not yet disputed) led to believe that everything was ok since he wasnt the one who actually ripped Amp off. He has made attempts to compensate designers, and no one who has come to him regarding this matter, requesting payment, has been denied as far as I can tell.

So call him...he's asked a few times to be called reguarding this.

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