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Veterans Day 09-24-2003 10:37 PM

FUGETABOUTIT

Chris 09-24-2003 10:37 PM

LYNCH EM!
:helpme

Mr.Fiction 09-24-2003 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by playa



so i guess its true that your available 24/7 :Graucho

Keep that in mind the next time you're looking for a host.

Honeyslut 09-24-2003 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by liquidmoe
Isnt Amp already in this thread?
Yep at 10:29

Brad Mitchell 09-24-2003 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by playa



so i guess its true that your available 24/7 :Graucho

Yup, even for BS like this my friend. (yawn)

...Either Lensman or Amp, if either of you is around give me a call on the 1-866-SINEMPIRE line so we can get this resolved without wasting any more time.

Brad

integrated 09-24-2003 10:40 PM

hmmm i call Shananigins

4Pics 09-24-2003 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Honeyslut


Yep at 10:29

Amp is watching the sun set?

Amputate Your Head 09-24-2003 10:40 PM

to be fair here, Brad didn't gank me (gank.... my new favorite word for the night) directly. Duane Hansen did. Brad bought these sites and members areas from Duane aka "pensfan" aka "BuckNaked", at a rock bottom price, since Duane was in "haul my scammin' worthless ass outta here" mode. And Duane got the profit and ran. I saw fuckall.

But to also be fair on my end, I did a whole lotta work for nothing. Granted, if you're buying something, you would expect the seller to have the right to sell it.... but that's not always the case, and it's wise to be prudent in your research prior to sending someone a check for something they don't own.

I own half your program Brad.

Veterans Day 09-24-2003 10:41 PM

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Originally posted by SinEmpire


Yup, even for BS like this my friend. (yawn)

...Either Lensman or Amp, if either of you is around give me a call on the 1-866-SINEMPIRE line so we can get this resolved without wasting any more time.

Brad

:glugglug brads all good in my book (bump)

Lensman 09-24-2003 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SinEmpire


I was sleeping until I got a call on my cell phone! Amp's not on ICQ, someone needs to give him a call and wake his ass up too so he can clean up this mess. lol

Brad

Amp's not correcting me. You made your bed, lay in it.

Chris 09-24-2003 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 4Pics


Amp is watching the sun set?


that was like 4 hours ago

he is back

liquidmoe 09-24-2003 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
to be fair here, Brad didn't gank me (gank.... my new favorite word for the night) directly. Duane Hansen did. Brad bought these sites and members areas from Duane aka "pensfan" aka "BuckNaked", at a rock bottom price, since Duane was in "haul my scammin' worthless ass outta here" mode. And Duane got the profit and ran. I saw fuckall.

But to also be fair on my end, I did a whole lotta work for nothing. Granted, if you're buying something, you would expect the seller to have the right to sell it.... but that's not always the case, and it's wise to be prudent in your research prior to sending someone a check for something they don't own.

I own half your program Brad.

What about approaching Duane then since he was the one actually ripping someone off, while Brad is more or less just ripping you off because of ignorance, not by intent. Just a question. :)

Mr.Fiction 09-24-2003 10:43 PM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


I own half your program Brad.

Half Own3d!

Lensman 09-24-2003 10:43 PM

Sin, you chose to do business with a known theif, you deserve the repurcussions.

Amp has a lien on his work, you are using it. Pay him.

WiredGuy 09-24-2003 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
You're just one wired guy!
I am THE WiredGuy, there cannot be other WG's!
WG

Amputate Your Head 09-24-2003 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by liquidmoe
What about approaching Duane then since he was the one actually ripping someone off, while Brad is more or less just ripping you off because of ignorance, not by intent. Just a question. :)
my deal with Duane was for a percentage of the program. He sold that program and all the work to Brad without my consent. So you tell me....

Do I get a percentage of Brad's program, or does Brad owe me outright for the work?

Brad Mitchell 09-24-2003 10:45 PM

Well then, I'm absolutely shocked. Amp and I talked about this stuff a long time ago. Refer to my post in this thread as a start to refreshing your ailing memories:

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...pagenu mber=3

Brad

Veterans Day 09-24-2003 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


my deal with Duane was for a percentage of the program. He sold that program and all the work to Brad without my consent. So you tell me....

Do I get a percentage of Brad's program, or does Brad owe me outright for the work?

fo shizzle

Sharky 09-24-2003 10:46 PM

situations like this absolutely suck.

I've been in the designers shoes, and I can understand the end buyers situation.

if I buy a computer from dell, and dell decides to stiff it's supplyer, does that mean the suplier can come after me?

bad analogy, I know...

sorry to hear you were fucked by pensfan AMP. I was unaware he became a crook.

liquidmoe 09-24-2003 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


my deal with Duane was for a percentage of the program. He sold that program and all the work to Brad without my consent. So you tell me....

Do I get a percentage of Brad's program, or does Brad owe me outright for the work?

Without all the facts, you are deserved compensation, I was just wondering why Duane wasn't approached about this. Unless Brad was knowingly purchasing an entire program. Buying stolen merchandise is still a crime, but so its selling it, just wondering why the seller isn't being hounded, unless of course he is also.

Amputate Your Head 09-24-2003 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SinEmpire
Well then, I'm absolutely shocked. Amp and I talked about this stuff a long time ago. Refer to my post in this thread as a start to refreshing your ailing memories:

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...pagenu mber=3

Brad

so some half-baked lies from Duane himself is your rebuttal?

SomeCreep 09-24-2003 10:49 PM

This is an ethics issue. Bad ethics that he used the adult.com program for reference, but did this guy actually do anything illegal?

Amputate Your Head 09-24-2003 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by liquidmoe
Without all the facts, you are deserved compensation, I was just wondering why Duane wasn't approached about this. Unless Brad was knowingly purchasing an entire program. Buying stolen merchandise is still a crime, but so its selling it, just wondering why the seller isn't being hounded, unless of course he is also.
Duane was not only approached, he was verbally fucking abused about it.

you think that matters to him?

Lensman 09-24-2003 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SinEmpire
Well then, I'm absolutely shocked. Amp and I talked about this stuff a long time ago. Refer to my post in this thread as a start to refreshing your ailing memories:

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...pagenu mber=3

Brad

This thread you quote totally incrimates you. You admit this person sells stolen property, but you used it anyway!

What does that make you?

BTW, you never should have gotten on my bad side.

calm 09-24-2003 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman


This thread you quote totally incrimates you. You admit this person sells stolen property, but you used it anyway!

What does that make you?

BTW, you never should have gotten on my bad side.

rawr

lEricPl 09-24-2003 10:51 PM

This is lame.

The deal was with pensfan not Brad.

liquidmoe 09-24-2003 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


Duane was not only approached, he was verbally fucking abused about it.

you think that matters to him?

That?s what I thought. I guess if Brad bought it unknowingly this could perhaps be resolved somehow amicably as he wasn't directly trying to rip someone off, but if he had prior knowledge then that?s obviously more serious and incriminating.

Mr Pheer 09-24-2003 10:53 PM

this board sometimes reminds me of my fucking sister-in-law's kids

liquidmoe 09-24-2003 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lEricPl
This is lame.

The deal was with pensfan not Brad.

Tell that to a cop when you buy stolen merchandise. :Graucho

Tibetan Pimp 09-24-2003 10:53 PM

Brad, did you not know Amp designed these? His work kinda stands out and, by your own admission, you knew you were buying from a known thief (hence the post).

Why would you ask that if you didn't know the designs were stolen? It's not a get out of jail free card.

How did you expect this to not to bite you in the ass?

The "I didn't know.. " tact does not apply. You knew by that post that you were buying into a problem.

WiredGuy 09-24-2003 10:54 PM

Too much drama on GFY for one night!
WG

Brad Mitchell 09-24-2003 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


so some half-baked lies from Duane himself is your rebuttal?

No man read MY post in there and my subsequent posts on the following two pages. I don't know what you're smoking tonight but we talked about this stuff way back then when I was trying to search out all the artists after I found out the stuff I bought was from a con-artist who didn't pay all of his designers.

Lensman, you think I chose to do business with a known thief? Christ man, I bought that stuff in August of 2002 and didn't find out until months later that the guy was a con and that I got scammed. After which, I did the right thing and sought out designers here on GFY.

Brad

Amputate Your Head 09-24-2003 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by liquidmoe
That?s what I thought. I guess if Brad bought it unknowingly this could perhaps be resolved somehow amicably as he wasn't directly trying to rip someone off, but if he had prior knowledge then that?s obviously more serious and incriminating.
I'm pretty sure I've mentioned it in the past to Brad.... but he never made use of the shit he bought, and never put it online, so I never said anything.

lEricPl 09-24-2003 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by liquidmoe
Tell that to a cop when you buy stolen merchandise. :Graucho
So Brad knew he was buying stolen designs?

Veterans Day 09-24-2003 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman


This thread you quote totally incrimates you. You admit this person sells stolen property, but you used it anyway!

What does that make you?

BTW, you never should have gotten on my bad side.

I feel like my pops is yellin at me and Im 32 years old :(

grumpy 09-24-2003 10:55 PM

I have an opinion, but its better to hold back when the big boys fight :-)

Honeyslut 09-24-2003 10:55 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by MrPheer
this board sometimes reminds me of my fucking sister-in-law's kids [/Q


:1orglaugh

TheJimmy 09-24-2003 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPheer
this board sometimes reminds me of my fucking sister-in-law's kids
fun t'ain't it?

:thumbsup :thumbsup

4Pics 09-24-2003 10:55 PM

brb popcorn!

Mr.Fiction 09-24-2003 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by liquidmoe
Buying stolen merchandise is still a crime, but so its selling it, just wondering why the seller isn't being hounded, unless of course he is also.
As I read it, there is no "crime" here. Nothing was stolen. This is an unpaid bills issue. The question is, who's owes who?

TheJimmy 09-24-2003 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lEricPl


So Brad knew he was buying stolen designs?



ssssssssssssssssss

Amputate Your Head 09-24-2003 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SinEmpire


No man read MY post in there and my subsequent posts on the following two pages. I don't know what you're smoking tonight but we talked about this stuff way back then when I was trying to search out all the artists after I found out the stuff I bought was from a con-artist who didn't pay all of his designers.

Lensman, you think I chose to do business with a known thief? Christ man, I bought that stuff in August of 2002 and didn't find out until months later that the guy was a con and that I got scammed. After which, I did the right thing and sought out designers here on GFY.

Brad

you want proof? I'm the only living soul on Earth that has the source files.

Veterans Day 09-24-2003 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


you want proof? I'm the only living soul on Earth that has the source files.

yep that'd do it Amp

playa 09-24-2003 10:57 PM

Eyes are burning,, must sleep now

liquidmoe 09-24-2003 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


As I read it, there is no "crime" here. Nothing was stolen. This is an unpaid bills issue. The question is, who's owes who?

Well there is the obvious culprit. The rest of it is murky, I would just say not to use the designs but if Brad did pay money for them, then its a bit different. Just another reason why you have to be careful with whom you do business.

4Pics 09-24-2003 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SinEmpire

Lensman, you think I chose to do business with a known thief? Christ man, I bought that stuff in August of 2002 and didn't find out until months later that the guy was a con and that I got scammed. After which, I did the right thing and sought out designers here on GFY.

Brad

If you did the right thing, what did you pay Amp for the designs?

Mr.Fiction 09-24-2003 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPheer
this board sometimes reminds me of my fucking sister-in-law's kids
I had to read that line twice.

Strife 09-24-2003 10:59 PM

love the drama :thumbsup

Groove 09-24-2003 10:59 PM

Amp, did you ever ask Brad for payment?

BlueDesignStudios 09-24-2003 11:00 PM

100 :thumbsup


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