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Old 09-10-2003, 10:58 PM   #51
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Why doesn't anyone ever talk about all the good stuff that Hitler acomplished?

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Guys, you are absolutely right about the horrible consequences of World War 2. 50 million people died, including jews, americans, russians.. etc.. Because of Hitler's beliefs.

That was not my point. I am not a neo-nazi and some people will kick my ass for that post! It was just a fucking experiment. [Labret] was recently banned, and I wanted to know if censorship was involved, because censorship is facism in a way. I know you guys are actually under strong influence from your government, and I feel so sorry for you guys. USA got stronger, your nationalism and patriotism was on the rise after 9/11. I think it's great, but as you can see, it involved incredible risks.. I just hope that you guys experience a better future..
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Nazi.
What? You are a nazi? I feel sorry for u.
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What? You are a nazi? I feel sorry for u.
You're the one posting the swasticka flag, nazi.
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Guys, you are absolutely right about the horrible consequences of World War 2. 50 million people died, including jews, americans, russians.. etc.. Because of Hitler's beliefs.

That was not my point. I am not a neo-nazi and some people will kick my ass for that post! It was just a fucking experiment. [Labret] was recently banned, and I wanted to know if censorship was involved, because censorship is facism in a way. I know you guys are actually under strong influence from your government, and I feel so sorry for you guys. USA got stronger, your nationalism and patriotism was on the rise after 9/11. I think it's great, but as you can see, it involved incredible risks.. I just hope that you guys experience a better future..
This board is run by Lensman. Not the US government. If this thread were locked and you banned it would have nothing to do with the 1st amendment of the US constitution which is meant to constrain the powers of the government.
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You're the one posting the swasticka flag, nazi.
Yes, and u liked it? Didn't you? I feel sorry for you.
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Yes, and u liked it? Didn't you? I feel sorry for you.
No actually it's just 2am so I'm being a douchebag to get the post count up
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This board is run by Lensman. Not the US government. If this thread were locked and you banned it would have nothing to do with the 1st amendment of the US constitution which is meant to constrain the powers of the government.
You are absolutely right. My test was not reliable. My mistake.
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This board is run by Lensman. Not the US government. If this thread were locked and you banned it would have nothing to do with the 1st amendment of the US constitution which is meant to constrain the powers of the government.


ive always wondered why people keep on bringing up freedom of speech and 1st amdmt. , when people get banned, posts get deleted on a freakin message board.
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Old 09-10-2003, 11:51 PM   #62
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People who think Hitler was stupid, are idiots. Just because someone uses their mind to accomplish things that you and i don't agree with,
What a bullcrap!! so you call murdering 6mill Jews an accomplishment? How is that? you call distorting half of Europe and then get fucked smart?

he wasn?t stupid that?s for sure but he was fucked in the head
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What really cracks me up about the Nazis is the 'Aryan' bullcrap they'll spit out.

Then you go to any historian worth his diploma ( your's truly included ) and you find out the Aryans they're praising had nothing to do with Europe but India. The true peoples the Aryan legend rises from were Asian not European. Their real descendents are now in India.

Yet these same knuckleheaded nazi wannabees will call the same descendents 'towel heads' or some other such nonsense.

That's why Hitler and the Thules lost. They didn't study.
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What a bullcrap!! so you call murdering 6mill Jews an accomplishment? How is that? you call distorting half of Europe and then get fucked smart?

he wasn?t stupid that?s for sure but he was fucked in the head
Score 1 for sensationalism. Hoorah. Where in my post did i say that murdering 6 million Jews was an accomplishment? Well, technically, it was an accomplishment for him. But that's not what i was referring to. I was referring to Germany's rise from the ashes. No other country has had such a dramatic turn around in such a short amount of time as Germany did when Hitler came into power.
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So many different people have referred to themselves as Aryan over time that it no longer has any real racial meaing. Aryan simply means 'noble' to most.
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People who think Hitler was stupid, are idiots. Just because someone uses their mind to accomplish things that you and i don't agree with, doesn't take away from the fact that he was a brilliant man. Brilliance does not mean he was a good man. Germany was absolutely shattered after the first world war. Hitler turned a country that was rubble, in debt, and morally destroyed, into one of the most powerful nations on the planet in the time it takes most politicians to sign off on a few laws.

It's like saying Julius Caesar wasn't a brilliant emperor because he slaughtered a bunch of innocent folks. You people have no objectivity.
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What really cracks me up about the Nazis is the 'Aryan' bullcrap they'll spit out.

Then you go to any historian worth his diploma ( your's truly included ) and you find out the Aryans they're praising had nothing to do with Europe but India. The true peoples the Aryan legend rises from were Asian not European. Their real descendents are now in India.

Yet these same knuckleheaded nazi wannabees will call the same descendents 'towel heads' or some other such nonsense.

That's why Hitler and the Thules lost. They didn't study.
You're right about India, but that only makes you half right. The romance languages of Europe all have the same root and can be directly tied to a mother tongue shared with one of the six languages spoken in India. Languages such as Portugeuse, the Basque dialects and Finnish are considered to be survival of the original peoples of Europe, as is the Dravidian dialects in India and Brahui in Pakistan.

The German misconception was based on a belief that the Aryans originated in India but this has been debunked and it's now considered that the Aryans originated in the Steppes of Russia and spread southward.
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Howdy! I'm german...

There was and still is an incredible fascination about this man. That's for sure. Probably no other man in history had more charisma that Hitler. I had to study WWII...

Hitler just wanted to be the most powerful leader of all time. He killed everbody who didn't follow him. First peple believed in him because after WWI and the folowing democratic republic (Weimarer Republik) failed, he was the man who promised better times. People were dascinated by his power and plitical goals. Nobody knew that he was a crazy fuck who believed that the Aryan race is the "Ubermensch".
And as the germans realized that their leader is a very dangerous man, it was too late. Those who didn't follow him got executed.
Hitler was brilliant? Hitler was pure evil.
He not just destroyed other countries, he also destroyed our country. The jewish people were our people. They belonged to our society, they were an important parft of our culture. The most brilliant germans were jewish germans.
And today we have no culture anymore and we even have no cities anymore. Most cities were destroyed and look terrible today. Cologne, Hamburg, Dresden, etc, etc.
And we still have to pay the so called "Reparationen".
Hitler was brilliant? Hitler was a natural disaster.

On the other hand: Hitler can also be quite funny:
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btw.: today Germany is just like the USA. We have your food, your music, your movies, etc. And I like that
But when it comes to patriotism or when our politicians discuss about war, we are very different. If you know the german history in detail and understand what has happened here, you will understand our position...

Oh, one thing that really bothers me is that we don't have "Denny's" here. Damn!
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This thread is pathetic, full of, for the most part, ill-informed people. Not stupid people (obvious exceptions), but just badly educated - unfortunately intellectualizing history doesn't work unless you know that history.
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i agree, i don't agree with what he said but the way he said it was pretty amazing. If you look at any world leader or high ranking politician these days, you can tell that someone in the background has told them to gesticulate to emphasise there points, but they all look so uncomfortable with it. I'm not an american but who was the guy who ran for the precidency against bush, was it al gore? he looked so fake moving his hands around when he spoke during your elections. hitler did it naturally. a bastard all the same though.
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Mussolini was also a great speaker.
I bet they both had the same oratory teacher...

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Take a tour of the holocaust museum in Wash DC and then think about your ideas of posting Nazi pictures.

Think of the 6 million jews and many other races that were exterminated for no other reason that they were considered inferior.

Look at the older folks that still have the ID#'s tatooed on their arms to this day from the camps that they were in over 50 years ago.

This could have happened to you and alot of us here if it werent stopped.
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Germany had huge problems before Hitler took control.. people used to paper their walls with d-mark instead of using real wallpaper, as the wallpaper were worht more than the money.

Not that strange that people vote on the one who promise to get them back on their feets... and it's not that strange that they trust him after that he has accomplished what he promised to do.
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This guy killed a few more people than Hitler, yet his picture doesn't seem to upset people half as much.
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This guy killed a few more people than Hitler, yet his picture doesn't seem to upset people half as much.
He was only killing his own people....

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Take a tour of the holocaust museum in Wash DC and then think about your ideas of posting Nazi pictures.

Think of the 6 million jews and many other races that were exterminated for no other reason that they were considered inferior.

Look at the older folks that still have the ID#'s tatooed on their arms to this day from the camps that they were in over 50 years ago.

This could have happened to you and alot of us here if it werent stopped.
Do you think about the, estimated, tens of millions of chinese that were slaughtered during the Red Gaurd days of Mao.
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You idiots, I can't believe this fucked up provocation has turned into a relaxed "intellectual" debate on nazism - this kind of tolerance to hate / violence / racism / fundamentalism has brought us to the weakest spot in out country's history.

Just check the calendar, see what date it is, now tell the fucker to go fuck himself, ban him and move on to the next thread!

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Germany was absolutely shattered after the first world war. Hitler turned a country that was rubble, in debt, and morally destroyed, into one of the most powerful nations on the planet in the time it takes most politicians to sign off on a few laws.

It's like saying Julius Caesar wasn't a brilliant emperor because he slaughtered a bunch of innocent folks. You people have no objectivity.
He did help turn that country into a power after WWI, but he also fought a two fronted war in WWII and fought in Russia in the winter.

I'll give him some credit for the economic turnaround, but I would never say that he's brilliant. Only a complete jackass wouldn't learn from Napoleons mistakes, and I can never say somebody is brilliant when they try to destroy a race of people. Can we just say that maybe he just did 1 thing right (the economic turnaround) because brilliant is just going way way too far. The guy was a jackass
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This guy killed 10 million Armenians at the beginning of the 20th century, but his picture doesn't seem to upset people half as much either. Hell, I'd be surprised if more than 1% of the people here knew who he was.
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that 6 million number makes me cringe because when someone says it I know they are just parroting pc crap and have no mind of their own.



Hitler seemed like a nice guy.
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the reason why hitler is more "famous" than many other ruthless dictators is the fact that WWII was the first war on camera. we can see what has happened there...
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THE JEWS HAVE MURDERED ENOUGH PEOPLE TO MAKE UP FOR WWII, IN ISRAEL, BY CONTROLLLING AMERICANS GOVERNTMENTS TO KILL THEIR ENEMYS, BY CONTROLLING THE DRUGS OF THE WORLD, BY CONTROLLING THE MEDIA.



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Do you think about the, estimated, tens of millions of chinese that were slaughtered during the Red Gaurd days of Mao.
yes....and it still wasnt right to do that. All Dictators are pure evil regardless of the time period or location they were or are in.

Murder is Murder, no matter how you look at it and it is a human injustice.
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the reason why hitler is more "famous" than many other ruthless dictators is the fact that WWII was the first war on camera. we can see what has happened there...
This is true. So this tells us that most people are educated not by books, but by the TV. In fact, they are not only educated by the TV, but they are indoctrinated by it. This is why their responses are so emotional.

Anyway, how about guys like this? He was around well after WW2 during the age of television, and he killed millions. Anybody getting upset over his picture?
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in jewish media the only ones allowed to feel pain and sorrow are blacks and jews.
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pol is a germ, hitler was saving his country
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He was only killing his own people....

Stalin only killed his own people????
So I guess the Polish, Chzeck's, Finnish, Ukranian etc. etc. must be Russian, at least in your oppinion....
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This guy killed 10 million Armenians at the beginning of the 20th century, but his picture doesn't seem to upset people half as much either. Hell, I'd be surprised if more than 1% of the people here knew who he was.
Comparing him to Hitler would be incredibly stupid. He fought a war of independence. If it wasn't for him, there would be no Turkey now. It was a war, not genocide.
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Comparing him to Hitler would be incredibly stupid. He fought a war of independence. If it wasn't for him, there would be no Turkey now. It was a war, not genocide.
A war against the Armenians? Were the Armenians not citizens of the Ottoman Empire at the time? Were all the men, women and chidren who were rounded up and murdered enemy soldiers?
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Old 09-11-2003, 08:52 AM   #96
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Stalin only killed his own people????
So I guess the Polish, Chzeck's, Finnish, Ukranian etc. etc. must be Russian, at least in your oppinion....
Have you ever heard about a word called "irony"?
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Old 09-11-2003, 08:54 AM   #97
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Comparing him to Hitler would be incredibly stupid. He fought a war of independence. If it wasn't for him, there would be no Turkey now. It was a war, not genocide.
it all dates back to ww1(which WAS NOT started by nor the fault of germany) in 1919 a starving germany signed the treaty of versilles with the greedy americans who wanted germany to pay billions of dollars a year up until 1987!!!! and america only came into the war at the very end anyway! with germany starving hitler saved his people and rebuilt the country! he rearmed germany to get out of the treaty of versilles with the greeedy americans, hitler belived ww1 was lost because jewish workers stopped working , and gave the war to the allies.
suere maybe hes fucked up like every politition but i can tell you fact about EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN MASS MURDERING PRESIDENT SINCE ww1
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comparing evil with evil...
does it really matter who was worse ?

all i know is that from 1933-1938/9 alot of good happend
to/in germany...was it because of hitler or the people around
him....don't know...don't care i wasn't there !
from 1939-45 the world incl. hitler was crazy.
all i hope is for this never to be repeated
http://www.hitler.org/ww2-deaths.html
56,125,262 Death
nothing funny about that !!!
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Old 09-11-2003, 08:55 AM   #99
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The reason why you don't hear more about what communism has done in the way of murdering millions of people has nothing to do with Jews in the media. Communists have murdered millions of Jews.

It is glossed over because ther are so many left wing people (although that is now starting to change), that control these outlets. It is almost "fashonable" among the colleges and Hollywood crowd to be an "intellectual communist". Those people refuse to see what horrors communism has brought....or they just think "well, if we only got it right....." or they just see capitalism as evil and think that all of the things that communism has been responsible for is just "right-wing propaganda by the evil imperialistic capitalists", so they work to suppress it.
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Old 09-11-2003, 08:56 AM   #100
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Germany had huge problems before Hitler took control.. .
Yeah, it was called drinking too much, dope, bad nutritional choices. Oh, and of course: Psychiatrists.

All a recipe for disaster. Just the soup a predator like the Thule wannabee industrialists were looking for.
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