SpaceAce

Another thread about pain got me to thinking about this and I am wondering if anyone else has had similar experiences.

Six or seven years back, I was injured while working in a beverage distributor's warehouse. A piece of glass went through my booth and into my foot. The injury was pretty nasty. When I pulled the wound open to have a look, a stream of blood spurted like four feet out of the cut. I must have hit a minor artery or something. Anyway, the next morning my foot hurt so bad that I drove myself to the emergency room to have it taken care of (I was in so much pain that I had to push the pedals with my left foot - it hurt too much to use my right). When the doctor finally came in, he told me he was going to apply an anesthetic and then try and dig the glass out. I was face down on one of those doctor's chair/bed things, so I couldn't see what he was doing, but I felt a horrible pain in my foot (as if I had been stabbed) and he said he'd be back in a few minutes to give my foot time to get numb. When he comes back, he asks me if I can feel "this", and he pokes at my foot. It hurts and I tell him so. He goes away for a few more minutes and repeats the test when he returns. I can still feel pain and he asks if it's really pain or just pressure. I tell him it's pain and he says - these are his exact words - "We didn't numb you up at all, did we?" The doctor then proceeds to go digging around in my foot and it hurts so bad I want to scream and punch his fucking lights out.

OK, that's story one. Story two is about a tooth I had pulled. The dentist takes out her torture device syringe and gives me a shot of whatever -caine it is they use (lidocaine?). After a few minutes, I tell her I'm not numb and she gives me another shot. This goes on for a while and eventually my jaw does get numb but the dentist must have given me six damn shots of the stuff before it worked. I was starting to wonder if she was even allowed to use that much of the stuff in one sitting.

I am wondering if anyone else has this problem with being resistant to numbing or if it's even possible to be resistant to a local anesthetic. One thing I know for sure is that when the doctor was fucking around with my foot, it <B>hurt</B>; it was not just pressure. The foot experience can't be easily dismissed as psychosomatic because I couldn't even see him and if I was numb I wouldn't have known when he was messing with my foot.

Also, for anyone who hasn't been given a shot at the dentist, here's a fun fact: the needle is approximately as large as a tree trunk and you actually hear a crunching noise as it is pushed into the tendon at the back of your jaw.

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HungSolo

Fucker! I'm gonna have nightmares now!! Was it the bottom of your foot, or the top?

shermo

I've heard of people needing 4-6 shots at the dentist. I don't think thats TOO rare.

Thanks for letting me in on that secret. I just cancelled tomorrows appointment. If my teeth rot away and fall out, I'll blame it on you!

SpaceAce

Bottom. Let me give you the rest of the juicy details.

The glass was from a broken beer bottle, but not just any beer bottle. Some bottles are still returned for deposit money and people save them up for YEARS. Every once in a while, they get hauled back to the warehouse in big lots. Well, these bottles usually have old stale beer in them and often thousands of tiny fruit flys buzzing around in the bottles. The bottles look and smell bad and often have gooey residue in and on them. These are not clean bottles.

The piece of glass went straight into the foot and, like I said, when I would pull the wound open it would spurt a stream of blood with every heart beat. I am talking power squirts, here. The blood was landing like a yard from where I was sitting. Thenext morning, my foot felt like it weighed 25 pounds; it felt thick and heavy as if someone had pumped a gallon of blood into my foot.

The doctor spent a lot of time digging around in my foot, much to my dismay, and when he finished he told me he couldn't get all the glass and warned me that it could cause more damage over time as my body slowly works to expel it from my foot. I had to get additional x-rays to be sure it wasn't in danger of shifting and cutting a major blood vessel.

Actually, the dentist missed a piece of tooth but I dug it out with my fingernails. I decided not to leave <B>two</B> unnecessary objects floating around in my body.

Here's a final picture for your nightmare: after I got the tooth pulled, I was given a major lecture on the importance of not using a straw or smoking (neither of which I do, fortunately) for a few weeks. Apparently, if you create a vaumn in your mouth you can disturb the scabbing/healing process and end up with something called dry socket (which sounds terrible just from the name) where you have a hole in your gum that leaves the nerves in your jaw exposed to air and other things. Supposedly, it is excruciatingly painful.

Good night.

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SpaceAce

LOL, haha... the dentist's office is not the place for anyone who dislikes needles, that's for sure. I'll say this, though: it was totally worth it to get rid of that tooth. I would have sat through 1,000 more jabs with that big steel needle if I had to. The only think I regret is losing the tooth completely. Having that hole where a tooth belongs makes me a little sad but at least it doesn't hurt.

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Gutterboy

I got 8 shots of novocaine when they pulled my wisdom teeth because the quack I went to had something against gas or putting people under. Two of them were surgical extractions.

I couldn't feel a thing, but holy fuck was it brutal. At one point a nurse was holding my head down one way while the doc was yanking the other with a giant pair of stainless steel toothy pliers. Instead of coming out, the tooth just explodes under the pressure.

So then he goes to his drawer and retrives a hammer and chisel.. looked like a stainless steel version of Black & Decker.. and starts hammering away to get the rest out of my jaw.

I was alright, but doing surgical extractions without gas or full anasthesia is borderline malpractice imo.

HungSolo

Yeah, it's called Sockets. My stubborn g/f refused to stop drinkinh through a straw... her jaw hurt to chew, she said... she kept saying she wished she would have lsitened while she waited for the Sockets to 'heal'. I felt so bad for her.


About your foot... damn, dude. I bet that's exactly what happened.. your foot filled up with blood in the wound. How did it end up stopping? On it's own or some sort of stitch from the doc?

SpaceAce

Mine was a molar not too far away from my wisdom teeth. The procedure was pretty much what you described, though. The dentist hooked on to the tooth with a pair of tooth pliers (ever see Little Shop of Horrors?) and just started yanking and twisting. At one point, she actually had her foot up on the chair. I didn't feel a thing, though. I also didn't have any pain afterward, which surprised me a bit.

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I'm not sure what happened. The blood soaked my sock but it took a while. The next morning, the bleeding seemed to have stopped on its own. The worst of it was when I would pull the wound open to try and clean it or have a look, which I stopped doing after the emergency room visit. I was off that foot for quite a few days. The doctor was telling me to go easy on it for something 6-8 weeks but that just wasn't feasible.

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Carrie

Same deal with my first wisdom tooth that got pulled. They couldn't get it out, ended up cracking it in half thinking that would be easier. NOT. My roots are super long and hook *around* my jawbones. The dentist ended up with his foot on the chair next to my head and his assistant pulling on the dentist's shoulders to help get the fucking thing out.

I just had 4 teeth pulled Monday by a real Oral Surgeon (not just a regular dentist). He didn't end up doing what the last dentist did, but he did have a hell of a fight getting the teeth out. Had to keep going back and shooting up one tooth in particular because it wasn't responding to the anesthesia. Think he ended up shooting it 5 times with the little curved needle they've got that hurts a lot worse than the long needles they use (where they flap your cheek around as if this will distract you from the pain of the needle).
Got two pieces of bone sticking out, due in this coming Monday to take out the sutures.
Go back on the 20th to pull 3 more teeth - this time on the bottom.
Good thing is, haven't needed any pain medication afterwards other than ibuprofen or acetominophen. Just sore and stiff jaw from all of the banging it was taking.

Guys trust me on this, I don't care if you don't have insurance, do NOT neglect your teeth. I didn't have insurance and had two kids that sucked the calcium out of my body and my teeth went to hell. After these next three get pulled I've got lots of crowns, bridges, root canals, fillings and porcelain veneers to look forward to...
Don't neglect your teeth.

SpaceAce

Man, that sounds like it sucked. I feel bad about my one missing tooth. I think losing 5-10 would throw me into depression.

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the Shemp

you should get a spinal tap, you'll know how tough you are after that.

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SpaceAce

You know, that tooth pulling is the only dental work I have ever had done. I went to the dentist once when I was about six years old and once when I was 19 and needed a tooth pulled. Dr. Bill Gray (family friend/childhood dentist) once said I had the strongest teeth he'd ever seen.

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Gutterboy

Why not just get implants? Had a friend who fell off his bike and fucked up his 4 top front teeth. Instead of having them drilled, filled, bridged and whatever, they just pulled everything out and did implants.

Takes about 5 mos to heal after they've implanted the sockets into your jaw and costs $1100 or so per tooth, but after its done you've got a brand new set of pretty much indestructable teeth.

Kimmykim

I dont respond to local lidocaine or novocaine so the dentist is never a pleasant experience for me... add that to the fact that I'm terrified of needles and it's really crap.

I know what you mean Shemp, I had 2 epidural cortisone fills last year when my disk in my back ruptured... the only way I can describe the feeling is that if someone could stick a water hose into your spine and turn it on full blast, that might approximate it... add that to the fact that you cannot move while they do it or you can be paralyzed and I was a wreck --

Mr Pheer

I guess i'm lucky. I'm 32 and never grew wisdom teeth. Besides from the routine cleanings and checkups, i've only had to get 1 filling in my life, and I dont remember it hurting.

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angeleyes

I'm fairly immune to pain killers after two bad car accidents, two surgeries and various other injuries because I'm a clutz. It also takes them twice as many drugs as normal to knock me out for surgeries....last time it was a combo of sodium-something, morphine and tordol.

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SpaceAce

Um, never grew? Are you sure about that? I though everyone got them, eventually. Mine are there, mostly grown in. Unfortunately, the one in the lower-right part of my jaw is shoving the tooth next to it into the empty hole where the tooth I had pulled used to be.

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Sodium pentothal, probably. I've never been on any serious painkillers (well, maybe when I was a baby and got burned by the car muffler) and I try not to take any medication unless it is really, really necessary. I don't even take headache medicines or anything like that.

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