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Old 02-19-2018, 08:08 PM   #151
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@Konda you don't understand man, this is just the replacement code I was given this is the same pop-up script this Huge company gives to everyone. It only opens on the first click on the page has nothing to do with the videos.
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@Konda you don't understand man, this is just the replacement code I was given this is the same pop-up script this Huge company gives to everyone. It only opens on the first click on the page has nothing to do with the videos.
It doesn't only trigger on first click. I tried on desktop and mobile and it triggers again when you go to the video page. And on mobile even on pressing the video play button.

You really need to get rid of that pop code you are using and submit for re-review so at least your other ads will start working again. Then you can look into finding proper pop that they will approve.

I went through this for multiple sites. Sometimes it took multiple reviews to get everything removed that they wanted removed. There is no tricks around it.
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Old 02-19-2018, 08:13 PM   #153
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I can not just remove the POP I need clear instructions how to make this complaint in both Mobile and desktop, that pop is our most important sponsors I can't afford to operate the site with-out it.

If the mobile ads are an issue we can adjust but I need clear instructions from someone that really knows about this and has done this before. I also need too create Clear and professional reports about this I can give too our ads companies so they can better help others that soon find themselves in this same position.
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Old 02-19-2018, 08:20 PM   #154
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It doesn't only trigger on first click. I tried on desktop and mobile and it triggers again when you go to the video page. And on mobile even on pressing the video play button.

You really need to get rid of that pop code you are using and submit for re-review so at least your other ads will start working again. Then you can look into finding proper pop that they will approve.

I went through this for multiple sites. Sometimes it took 2 or more reviews to get everything removed that they wanted removed. There is no tricks around it.
I do have a better pop-up/under script we can use but I need to work with someone that has done this before of large sites and can better inform all of us what is going on. To create a playbook I guess you can say. I am one of the first effected so what we do needs to be professionally documented so I can share it with our ads companies. I will check back soon hope he is around
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I can not just remove the POP I need clear instructions how to make this complaint in both Mobile and desktop, that pop is our most important sponsors I can't afford to operate the site with-out it.

If the mobile ads are an issue we can adjust but I need clear instructions from someone that really knows about this and has done this before. I also need too create Clear and professional reports about this I can give too our ads companies so they can better help others that soon find themselves in this same position.
The problem is no one has clear instructions. I went through this for multiple sites and some ads got through on one site and not on another.

Also it's not 100% clear about what pops are allowed exactly. Some type of pops seems to get through. But the one you are currently using is definitely a big problem.

It's just trial and error. You remove/replace what they point out. Submit for re-review. Then they will say if it's good or not. If not, you try something else and submit again.

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I do have a better pop-up/under script we can use but I need to work with someone that has done this before of large sites and can better inform all of us what is going on. To create a playbook I guess you can say. I am one of the first effected so what we do needs to be professionally documented so I can share it with our ads companies. I will check back soon hope he is around
But there are no clear rules unfortunately, no one knows exactly, so you just have to keep trying. On some sites we had to remove pops completely to pass while on others it went through with pops.

So instead of waiting and not having any ads for chrome users at all, just start with removing the pop and whatever else they point out so at least your other ads will work. And then after it is approved try to add some different pop codes from other networks.
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The problem is no one has clear instructions. I went through this for multiple sites and some ads got through on one site and not on another.

Also it's not 100% clear about what pops are allowed exactly. Some type of pops seems to get through. But the one you are currently using is definitely a big problem.

It's just trial and error. You remove/replace what they point out. Submit for re-review. Then they will say if it's good or not. If not, you try something else and submit again.

There are no clear rules, so you just have to keep trying. On some sites we had to remove pops completely to pass while on others it went through with pops.
You ONLY get 2 tries after the second review the site can not be reviewed again for 30days. This is NOt something you can just send back over and over until its ok. Just please tell him to e-mail me when he is around I do thank you. But this is Very important I need to work with the best person I can find and that seems to be @thommy
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@Konda I really do appreciate your help and deeply thankful but this is Very important I only have 2 shots too fix this I really need to try to work with the best most informed person possible.
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Old 02-20-2018, 01:51 AM   #159
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I don't think this concept will work... manual reviews of the whole web? the ads on sites change constantly... if a site passes their manual review some day, it doesn't mean shit... agressive ads and popup hells can appear the next day there... they would have to keep reviewing the sites again and again... constantly, and they can't expect people reporting anything, those annoyed by ads just install adblock and don't give a shit. yesterday Pornhub triggered a popup opened in a new window, today they again open the clicked link in a new tab and redirect the parent page to an ad.
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Thommy, I know you poo-poo membership sites
completely wrong !
I do not poo-poo them but they are just a small part of the revenue made today and also just a very little part of what people need.
and it was always like that - not since now.

when pornsites started we really did not have other choices as to sell porn with them.
so we got exactly this part of a humans budget (what was and still is 0,28% of his total budget).

I would REALLY appreciate to see at least a few more membership sites in this game but unfortunately they are stuck in yesterday.

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but where do you think the CONTENT comes from? Recorded live cams shows? OK fine. But you do realize that people want to see PORN, right? As in a PORN SCENE. Fully filmed, imagined, thought out, well produced with PORN STARS. Sure, amateurs are big too but they are essentially cam girls doing their own shit at home.
i have a few good friend what are producers since long long time.
they are still producing for the DVD and pay TV market but they are also selling their older productions or out cut szenes to tubes.

All of them are really happy to have this customers because they are buying cheap but A LOT. and as no one wants the material exclusive there are MANY buyers for this content.

I personally know not one tube site owner what would even talk about less than 2000 or 3000 szenes per buy.

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I am talking about PRODUCTION. And while you CAN go to a tube and see tons of free porn scenes those interested in higher quality or a niche still flock to paysites.
THIS is happening !
why do you think all those amateur models giving free content to tubes ?
WHY do you think most of the paysites give tons of free content to tubes and some of them are even willing TO PAY when they show up on tubes ?

I do not say that paysites don´t have the right to exist and i do not say that there is no market anymore. I just say that this market is only a very small fraction of the income
what is made WITH porn and not with SELLING porn.

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I always ask this: WHY do companies keep creating and releasing new paysites if the Adult Industry is, as you say, nothing more than dating, cams and dick pills? Why even bother then?
because it is MUCH cheaper as it was before.
I was running ONE paysite for more than 12 years.
in the good times we made like 200 k revenue per month with this site but the
costs, including affiliate comissions, servers, administration, technique and content
have been around 180 k.

if i would so the same today the costs would be maybe at 100 k.

so yes it is possible to even own a network of paysites where each one have 50 paying customers and there would be still some money to make - even when it is not much.

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Oh right - because Membership sites are the ONLY place where new content is being filmed. Period. Oh yes, DVDs too but that market has shrunk to almost nothing.
don´t underestimate that. it is not the DVD market - this was never a really big thing for the producers. they make the most money with rights. pay TV and porn cinema.
do you know how many porn cinemas exist only in India?
to sell rights for porn cinema to india is like a win in the lottery - even when the single licence is less than 1 dollar per movie and cinema but there are like 50 thousand of them only in india.

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I don't mind ad networks making millions selling cam pops but do not think for an instant that this constitutes the entire Adult Industry OR the desires of the consumer.
but this is exactly what i do - i go along with the desires of the consumer.
he can decide where he clicks and what product he is interested in.

and the market itself will regulate it because the one who can make the BEST result with the traffic is the one who can pay the BEST price.

why should i sell traffic for 0,1 cent per click JUST BECAUSE the buyer is unable to make more out of it when I have a buyer who can pay 50 times more because he IS profitable.

there is no argument against success - the market will always move to the more profitable solution - it was never different in the history of the world.

war movies are also not produced to sell tanks and IF THAT would be the reason to produce them they would not be produced.

science fiction movies are not produced for the SF chanel because the SF chanel would not be able to keep Spielberg alive.

just open your TV and watch whatever movie there and look how many % of the advertisement there have anything to do with the movie.

it is NOT that i hate paysites - but i am a realist. i do not spend my time with trying to change facts. I go along with them and make money.
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Old 02-20-2018, 02:32 AM   #162
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I need to work with the best person I can find and that seems to be @thommy
thanks for the flowers but all what Konda writes here makes sense.
even when i don´t know him I can read from his statements (also in other threads) that he is one of the very few who knows what is going on in the industry.

but as i said I added you in skype - I am just a few hours ahead because I am in south east asia right now.
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so you are selling fraud things (diet, dating etc.) and you are proud. porn is dead if you are a fair individual webmaster, producer etc. but yeah brokers, thieves are happy yet. but check pls mobidea, bitterstrawberry, traffic company rpm rates for example. it was 10x 5 years ago. if you can't send millions of traffic you earn pennies
did you dreamer also see that 5 years ago they made money with mobile (fraud 1 click payments and stuff). ???

that mobile payment is a short term hype was so clear as nothing else in the world.
and it was in 99% of all cases the biggest fraud beside the dialers in europe.

i made money with mobile long before these companies were existing and started to switch that on the day when i made the most revenue with mobile traffic and everyone thought i am crazy.

i am a longterm thinker and this is why guys like you hate me just because they did not see the train leaving the station.
but since over 21 years i was ALWAYS on board - that´s why i am still here.
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I don't think this concept will work... manual reviews of the whole web? the ads on sites change constantly... if a site passes their manual review some day, it doesn't mean shit... agressive ads and popup hells can appear the next day there... they would have to keep reviewing the sites again and again... constantly, and they can't expect people reporting anything, those annoyed by ads just install adblock and don't give a shit. yesterday Pornhub triggered a popup opened in a new window, today they again open the clicked link in a new tab and redirect the parent page to an ad.
i also don´t think that it is the final solution. I am nearly sure that they will give users the possibility to complain and after % X complained they will review.

but what they did right now was a smart strategy because they started with the biggest sites and knew that they are the ones who are able to change the rules in an ad network.
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completely wrong !
I do not poo-poo them but they are just a small part of the revenue made today and also just a very little part of what people need.
and it was always like that - not since now.

when pornsites started we really did not have other choices as to sell porn with them.
so we got exactly this part of a humans budget (what was and still is 0,28% of his total budget).

I would REALLY appreciate to see at least a few more membership sites in this game but unfortunately they are stuck in yesterday.



i have a few good friend what are producers since long long time.
they are still producing for the DVD and pay TV market but they are also selling their older productions or out cut szenes to tubes.

All of them are really happy to have this customers because they are buying cheap but A LOT. and as no one wants the material exclusive there are MANY buyers for this content.

I personally know not one tube site owner what would even talk about less than 2000 or 3000 szenes per buy.



THIS is happening !
why do you think all those amateur models giving free content to tubes ?
WHY do you think most of the paysites give tons of free content to tubes and some of them are even willing TO PAY when they show up on tubes ?

I do not say that paysites don´t have the right to exist and i do not say that there is no market anymore. I just say that this market is only a very small fraction of the income
what is made WITH porn and not with SELLING porn.



because it is MUCH cheaper as it was before.
I was running ONE paysite for more than 12 years.
in the good times we made like 200 k revenue per month with this site but the
costs, including affiliate comissions, servers, administration, technique and content
have been around 180 k.

if i would so the same today the costs would be maybe at 100 k.

so yes it is possible to even own a network of paysites where each one have 50 paying customers and there would be still some money to make - even when it is not much.



don´t underestimate that. it is not the DVD market - this was never a really big thing for the producers. they make the most money with rights. pay TV and porn cinema.
do you know how many porn cinemas exist only in India?
to sell rights for porn cinema to india is like a win in the lottery - even when the single licence is less than 1 dollar per movie and cinema but there are like 50 thousand of them only in india.



but this is exactly what i do - i go along with the desires of the consumer.
he can decide where he clicks and what product he is interested in.

and the market itself will regulate it because the one who can make the BEST result with the traffic is the one who can pay the BEST price.

why should i sell traffic for 0,1 cent per click JUST BECAUSE the buyer is unable to make more out of it when I have a buyer who can pay 50 times more because he IS profitable.

there is no argument against success - the market will always move to the more profitable solution - it was never different in the history of the world.

war movies are also not produced to sell tanks and IF THAT would be the reason to produce them they would not be produced.

science fiction movies are not produced for the SF chanel because the SF chanel would not be able to keep Spielberg alive.

just open your TV and watch whatever movie there and look how many % of the advertisement there have anything to do with the movie.

it is NOT that i hate paysites - but i am a realist. i do not spend my time with trying to change facts. I go along with them and make money.
You talk a lot and it'sall lies. Prove it by showing your porn tube sites. Of course you won't want to hide them as hiding a porn tube is counter productive.
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did you dreamer also see that 5 years ago they made money with mobile (fraud 1 click payments and stuff). ???

that mobile payment is a short term hype was so clear as nothing else in the world.
and it was in 99% of all cases the biggest fraud beside the dialers in europe.

i made money with mobile long before these companies were existing and started to switch that on the day when i made the most revenue with mobile traffic and everyone thought i am crazy.

i am a longterm thinker and this is why guys like you hate me just because they did not see the train leaving the station.
but since over 21 years i was ALWAYS on board - that´s why i am still here.
Can I access free porn on my mobile?
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i also don´t think that it is the final solution. I am nearly sure that they will give users the possibility to complain and after % X complained they will review.

but what they did right now was a smart strategy because they started with the biggest sites and knew that they are the ones who are able to change the rules in an ad network.
and if the rules there are changed - they are changed for all.
You don't know the end game. But are sure where the next move will go.
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Google does earn something from directing people to porn sites;
they earn traffic.

If surfers who are looking for porn can't find it through google then they will use a different
search method.


They still direct people to the Tubes, they are blocking the ads.
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WHO you think IS the porn industry ?

there are still thousands of porn products existing but nobody wants them (except a few new products in VR or porn games).
Bullshit. The highest ranking porn site is way up in the list of top sites. People no longer want to pay for it.



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again a prove that you do not know the market.
i personally have a few mediabuying companies as advertisers ONLY for dating and they spend MILLIONS every month in every fucking available network - and they would even buy MUCH MORE if there would be more traffic.
Prove it by showing one of your tube sites.

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paul if you do not believe me, than talk with the other guys who are in that.
your problem is that all your contacts you had before are already retired or banktupt.
you do not know the guys anymore who make the money.
I do know that if you are scraping traffic from porn tubes you're not doing that well.

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show me a few porn sites (even from your time of noah´s arch) what have been sold for 100 million or more. even THAN it was AFF and stuff like that what got this values.
and today you will find the real high selling prices on porn tubes. why a fuck you think it is like that?
That was then, this is now. A simple porn shop turned over a $million every year.



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paul i am at least the same time in this biz as you are - but in opposite to you i am STILL here and make money. so don´t tell me about porn sites in the good old days. i started 1997 and had my fist paysite in 1999. so better tell your BS to the greenhorns but not to someone with 21 years of CONTINUING experience in porn.
There were a lot of little fish around. I assume you were one of them. Not a big deal.

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and what?
have you ever had a look on the pornsites what is promoted there ?????

btw. one of the BIGGEST mediabuying companies in that sits in CZ. they are buying for aproximately 5 million traffic per month.
a few even bigger are in russia, india and the netherlands.
alone this periphery market is MUCH bigger as all paysites together.
Prove it.

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tell it the TV stations - tell them to stop it and wait how many people will buy the DVDs.
you are such a dreamer
Different business. We're talking about the porn business.



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you NEVER made money paul !!!!
you THINK that you made money because you made more in relation as you did before.

in 2000 i made a PROFIT (NOT REVENUE) of 15-20 k PER DAY !!!!! you honk - and i was one of the smaller earners.
but we have not been that many competitors than and the traffic was from rich people who could afford internet.
Prove it.

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but why do i tell you that?
it will not help you to turn time back and it will not even make you wiser.
you might be gulliver in midgetland but in the land of giants you are an ant.
So show us where you place your ads and your tube sites.

Talk is cheap, proof is more expensive.
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Thommy, I know you poo-poo membership sites but where do you think the CONTENT comes from? Recorded live cams shows? OK fine. But you do realize that people want to see PORN, right? As in a PORN SCENE. Fully filmed, imagined, thought out, well produced with PORN STARS. Sure, amateurs are big too but they are essentially cam girls doing their own shit at home.

I am talking about PRODUCTION. And while you CAN go to a tube and see tons of free porn scenes those interested in higher quality or a niche still flock to paysites.

I always ask this: WHY do companies keep creating and releasing new paysites if the Adult Industry is, as you say, nothing more than dating, cams and dick pills? Why even bother then?

Oh right - because Membership sites are the ONLY place where new content is being filmed. Period. Oh yes, DVDs too but that market has shrunk to almost nothing.

I don't mind ad networks making millions selling cam pops but do not think for an instant that this constitutes the entire Adult Industry OR the desires of the consumer.
Spot on. https://www.alexa.com/topsites/category/Top/Adult

That proves you and me are right and Thommy talks a lot of bollox. He can only afford bottom dollar on content, I've sold my portfolio so many times to Tubes sites it now must be saturated. Sites who cant afford to pay more than a few dollars per scene.

Cams, dating, gaming, pills were never a good earner for paysites. We should know as we know the truth about the value of a member. Back in the days of TGP sites you rarely saw a banner selling anything other than paysites. Because they could afford to advertise. Today that's a rarity on porn tubes.

Thommy talks a lot of bollox. And again I proved it.
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so you are selling fraud things (diet, dating etc.) and you are proud. porn is dead if you are a fair individual webmaster, producer etc. but yeah brokers, thieves are happy yet. but check pls mobidea, bitterstrawberry, traffic company rpm rates for example. it was 10x 5 years ago. if you can't send millions of traffic you earn pennies
Because the legit products steer well clear of porn. They always did even in the days of magazines. Except Playboy level.
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I checked your site and I'm pretty sure the biggest issue is the pops. So start with removing that and submit for re-review. If there are still any other issues they will point it out.

PS I noticed on mobile at the top, there is very high ad density, this might be an issue as well, but first thing is to remove that pop because it's a very bad one the way it triggers.
Tubes are looking after the surfer and penalising those sites with excessive pops. Ads on a mobile, fuck me off.
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i give up on you paul.

it does not make sense to discuss issues like that with a senile old idiot who was always too small to look out from the window.

i better go back to talk with the future oriented people and make money with them.

keep on telling the losers (from loser to loser) that this industry will die - the winners will appreciate it and laugh on you.
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Spot on. https://www.alexa.com/topsites/category/Top/Adult

That proves you and me are right and Thommy talks a lot of bollox. He can only afford bottom dollar on content, I've sold my portfolio so many times to Tubes sites it now must be saturated. Sites who cant afford to pay more than a few dollars per scene.

Cams, dating, gaming, pills were never a good earner for paysites. We should know as we know the truth about the value of a member. Back in the days of TGP sites you rarely saw a banner selling anything other than paysites. Because they could afford to advertise. Today that's a rarity on porn tubes.

Thommy talks a lot of bollox. And again I proved it.
Yes, you are correct on Back in the days , but those days are longggggggggggggggg gone. Paysites are now on bottom of ROI, so if you want to make money in adult, paysite is the last thing where you should send traffic. Tho, some companies like crakrevenue trying to battle with that problem by making a custom adult product.
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Yes, you are correct on Back in the days , but those days are longggggggggggggggg gone. Paysites are now on bottom of ROI, so if you want to make money in adult, paysite is the last thing where you should send traffic. Tho, some companies like crakrevenue trying to battle with that problem by making a custom adult product.
Agreed. But don't try to tell me there is more money in porn now than there was back in the day.
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Heads up Thommy, your ads are being blocked.

pornhubdeutsch.net and xhamsterdeutsch.xyz/

That looks like a gigantic campaign. LOL, ROFL.

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Agreed. But don't try to tell me there is more money in porn now than there was back in the day.
Well in theory could be more money simply because of bigger user base, but most of it goes to top 10 players while rest have pieces only.
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Well in theory could be more money simply because of bigger user base, but most of it goes to top 10 players while rest have pieces only.
Imagine the end of free porn and you can see the user base. Immense wealth. The top ten of the porn shop chains made a lot of money. Nowadays we are scraping 1-1,000s off those who can be bothered to click on an ad.

There was no alternative once the cost of B/W dropped below a certain level.
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Imagine the end of free porn and you can see the user base. Immense wealth. The top ten of the porn shop chains made a lot of money. Nowadays we are scraping 1-1,000s off those who can be bothered to click on an ad.

There was no alternative once the cost of B/W dropped below a certain level.
I was imaging that scenario with many alternative ways, but it simply not working.
For example, if you would somehow make working one uploaded pirated video equal site shutdown, tube sites would simply adapt by either requiring ID from uploaders or simply always buy content which would be good for content producers, but it still wont increase their revenues a lot nor change much.

My ideal scenario would be where it wont be allowed to post videos longer then 3 minutes.
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I was imaging that scenario with many alternative ways, but it simply not working.
For example, if you would somehow make working one uploaded pirated video equal site shutdown, tube sites would simply adapt by either requiring ID from uploaders or simply always buy content which would be good for content producers, but it still wont increase their revenues a lot nor change much.

My ideal scenario would be where it wont be allowed to post videos longer then 3 minutes.
The only way it would work is if the cost of putting videos online rose above the money made from advertising. You don't need 3 minutes of video to get someone to your site. All it takes is a picture. Back in the days when Newsgroups were the only way to get known, people were selling CDs of images or videos by the 1,000s. I was selling to them. Again it was more profitable to sell to the publisher than taking on two roles.

Then the user base was a fraction of what it is now. And slow as fuck, but still, people demanded porn and we sold it to them.
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Heads up Thommy, your ads are being blocked.

pornhubdeutsch.net and xhamsterdeutsch.xyz/

That looks like a gigantic campaign. LOL, ROFL.

don´t worry paul MY ads are not blocked there - i can not do you this favour :-)

if you talk about the ads in the videos - they are not from us.
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don´t worry paul MY ads are not blocked there - i can not do you this favour :-)

if you talk about the ads in the videos - they are not from us.
No, it's definitely your ads. The granny and MILF amateur ones. They are definitely from trafficfabric. Other people can check them. I think it was Norton/Eset is blocking them.



Again I have proven you talk bullshit. You can't even get traffic through Norton/Eset. It's one of the most popular virus blockers. So stop giving advice and fix your ads.

pornhubdeutsch.net and xhamsterdeutsch.xyz/

Still waiting to see your porn tubes.
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No, it's definitely your ads. The granny and MILF amateur ones. They are definitely from trafficfabric. Other people can check them. I think it was Norton/Eset is blocking them.



Again I have proven you talk bullshit. You can't even get traffic through Norton/Eset. It's one of the most popular virus blockers. So stop giving advice and fix your ads.

pornhubdeutsch.net and xhamsterdeutsch.xyz/

Still waiting to see your porn tubes.
these are not my ads what are blocked you moron this is some landingpage from an advertiser what is blocked for a favicon you honk.

i will never understand how you ever wanted to make money in internet and don´t even understand how internet works.

but anyway - thanks for the tip i will have a look on this advertisers campaigns.
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Norton/Eset. It's one of the most popular virus blockers. .
yes with a favicon bug

https://www.wilderssecurity.com/thre...arning.310327/

https://www.wilderssecurity.com/thre...leaned.330432/

so to give you a little lesson what you see here.

this landingpage does NOT have a favicon but it seems that the server where this site is hosted automatically links to a favicon what is not there.

so your wondertool does not let you on the site because there is no favicon.

this is called SOFTWAREBUG !!!!

great software !!!!!!

and another prove that you have not the smallest idea from what you are talking.
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paul i forgot something:

just to make sure you don´t think it is an elephant when you see the next time a mouse

THIS IS HOW IT LOOKS WHEN ADS ARE BLOCKED



everything else you should not explain by your weak phantasy or spread lies - you better ask someone who should know it - maybe some 5 year old in your neighborhood before you write bullshit and lies.
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So what or which type op popup will NOT be a problem?
Can we still use popUNDERS ?
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yes with a favicon bug

https://www.wilderssecurity.com/thre...arning.310327/

https://www.wilderssecurity.com/thre...leaned.330432/

so to give you a little lesson what you see here.

this landingpage does NOT have a favicon but it seems that the server where this site is hosted automatically links to a favicon what is not there.

so your wondertool does not let you on the site because there is no favicon.

this is called SOFTWAREBUG !!!!

great software !!!!!!

and another prove that you have not the smallest idea from what you are talking.
So you block people with the same set up as me? The level of your average surfer.
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paul i forgot something:

just to make sure you don´t think it is an elephant when you see the next time a mouse

THIS IS HOW IT LOOKS WHEN ADS ARE BLOCKED



everything else you should not explain by your weak phantasy or spread lies - you better ask someone who should know it - maybe some 5 year old in your neighborhood before you write bullshit and lies.
I disabled my Adblock to see the ad. Do I have to disable it again to see the site you're sending traffic to?

Still a shitty ad and not backing any of your claims of being a big operator. Show me more of your Tube Sites.
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So you block people with the same set up as me? The level of your average surfer.
do you old honk understand that nobody blocked you except your shitty and buggy software ???

do you not get that ???

there is NOTHING what i can do against stupid users.

you can unplug you computer and will make me responsable that you do not see anything - i don´t care - but get a brain paul before you talk SUCH a nonsense.

buy an old radio or black and white tv - this will fit your skills much more.

is here anyone who can explain paul the internet ???
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I disabled my Adblock to see the ad. Do I have to disable it again to see the site you're sending traffic to?

Still a shitty ad and not backing any of your claims of being a big operator. Show me more of your Tube Sites.
The thing is, in order to make money with ad network, regardless is it CPA or CPM model, you dont need to have big sites as publishers, you can have bunch of small ones and still make decent money.
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The thing is, in order to make money with ad network, regardless is it CPA or CPM model, you dont need to have big sites as publishers, you can have bunch of small ones and still make decent money.
the thing is - he is not even a skilled user who know how to use the internet for surfing - how shall he know how to use the internet to make money ?

paul just sees what paul wants to see - there is no hope that this will change in this life.
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The thing is, in order to make money with ad network, regardless is it CPA or CPM model, you dont need to have big sites as publishers, you can have bunch of small ones and still make decent money.
I disabled my ad blocker. My settings are probably the same as any similar skilled web user. It was blocked by Norton/Eset. Not my ad blocker, I saw the ad on the Tubes sites, going to those sites I was advised not to proceed by Norton/Eset.

Does one have to be a skilled surfer to click on Thommys banners?
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I disabled my ad blocker. My settings are probably the same as any similar skilled web user. It was blocked by Norton/Eset. Not my ad blocker, I saw the ad on the Tubes sites, going to those sites I was advised not to proceed by Norton/Eset.

Does one have to be a skilled surfer to click on Thommys banners?
no you do not have to be a skilled surfer - but if you use a computer you should know at least the most basics about internet.

alone that you THINK this issue have anything to do with me or my network or my software shows me that you are not even a bit smarter as the dumbest user.

you referring to a KNOWING BUG in YOUR BUGGY SECURITY SOFTWARE and you can not or want not understand it.

this site what you could not open was also not my site - it was a redirect site from one of my advertisers what is on voluum.

voluum is the number one marketing and targeting software in the world with trillions of hits per month. the company is in the top 500 forbes - and even THEY are not able to help an old clown who does not understand the internet but pretending he is the inventor of the www.

it does not make sense to explain your issue because you are too stupid to understand the web. maybe someone else is patient enough to tell you that it is YOUR problem what you see. this is already visable on your screenshot because in the tabs you have only sites with a favicon. seems you have never seen another one because you have been warned from you great security every time you tries to open a site without a favicon.

that a software would warn and check IF THERE IS a favicon and it is suspicious would be ok - because HAVING a favicon CAN make a security issue. but havíng NO favicon (what would not make sense on a tracking and redirecting software because it need to be fast and don´t load nonsense) CAN NOT BE a security issue. and the programmers KNOW THAT since 2016 as you can see in a thread in THEIR BOARD where the user wrote:

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We found some of our sites are treat like

"Potentially unwanted content" and we have issues with most of our clients.

http:/ / Hydroface Advanced Double Active Revitalizing Set | Rejuvenation System are example sites.

Please explain what can our developers do to resolve it as soon as

possible. There are errors for the favicons and other files.

Please contact us :[email protected]

Thank You in advance!

Regards!

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i could explain you that in detail but you would still not understand it because
you are a photographer and you have no clue how internet works.
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I disabled my ad blocker. My settings are probably the same as any similar skilled web user. It was blocked by Norton/Eset. Not my ad blocker, I saw the ad on the Tubes sites, going to those sites I was advised not to proceed by Norton/Eset.

Does one have to be a skilled surfer to click on Thommys banners?
You can use site virustotal.com to see is there something really bad or just false positive, i had few time reports how some my sites are "infected" while in reality was just false positive by one or two antiviruses.
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You can use site virustotal.com to see is there something really bad or just false positive, i had few time reports how some my sites are "infected" while in reality was just false positive by one or two antiviruses.
the point is that there is nothing infected or blocked. paul have a buggy security tool that´s all. i also don´t know what all that have to do with this topic here - i think he even does not understand what we are here talking about.

fact is paul tried to "observe" my network with his FBI knowledge he searcht for trafficfabrik in google and found 2 of 4500 sites what are own or publisher sites.

paul klicked on a banner what is payed from an advertiser and he leads (as all smart marketers do) his traffic first to his tracking solution what is voluum.com (but every customer have his own domain there).

as this software is only reading everything in the connection and then send the user by rules to a product he might want or being able to buy, this hit on this tracker is done in milliseconds and after it it redirects to the correct final landingpage for this user.

every browser is searching by STANDARD for a favicon.ico on each domain but a favicon is not internet standard. a site CAN have one or not. if not the browser just ignores this fact.

now pauls buggy software interpreted this not exist of favicon.ico ON THE TRACKER DOMAIN as something bad.
and blockt the site where the final redirect is done for that reason.

i would not say ANY THING if this software would block a site WITH a favicon - because i can shutdown every browser with a favicon in a second.
but NOT TO HAVE a favicon to interpret as risk is a joke.
the programmers must be kids and the users even dumber.

but what he actually wants is to blame ME for his anti knowledge by growling "thommy´s ads are blocked" what is not only a lie i could also understand this as business damage if i would not know that anyway nobody gives a fuck on what paul types out his sick head.

i really don´t understand what people are doing in a biz board with NO CLUE about this biz. and paul have even less than no clue as he showed us here perfectly.
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You can use site virustotal.com to see is there something really bad or just false positive, i had few time reports how some my sites are "infected" while in reality was just false positive by one or two antiviruses.
I checked it out. It's a tool that requires me to upload a file or enter a URL. I need something better than Norton/Eset to run in the background. Like most computer users I'm fairly illiterate about this. Thommy is blocking some of us.
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the point is that there is nothing infected or blocked. paul have a buggy security tool that´s all. i also don´t know what all that have to do with this topic here - i think he even does not understand what we are here talking about.

fact is paul tried to "observe" my network with his FBI knowledge he searcht for trafficfabrik in google and found 2 of 4500 sites what are own or publisher sites.

paul klicked on a banner what is payed from an advertiser and he leads (as all smart marketers do) his traffic first to his tracking solution what is voluum.com (but every customer have his own domain there).

as this software is only reading everything in the connection and then send the user by rules to a product he might want or being able to buy, this hit on this tracker is done in milliseconds and after it it redirects to the correct final landingpage for this user.

every browser is searching by STANDARD for a favicon.ico on each domain but a favicon is not internet standard. a site CAN have one or not. if not the browser just ignores this fact.

now pauls buggy software interpreted this not exist of favicon.ico ON THE TRACKER DOMAIN as something bad.
and blockt the site where the final redirect is done for that reason.

i would not say ANY THING if this software would block a site WITH a favicon - because i can shutdown every browser with a favicon in a second.
but NOT TO HAVE a favicon to interpret as risk is a joke.
the programmers must be kids and the users even dumber.

but what he actually wants is to blame ME for his anti knowledge by growling "thommy´s ads are blocked" what is not only a lie i could also understand this as business damage if i would not know that anyway nobody gives a fuck on what paul types out his sick head.

i really don´t understand what people are doing in a biz board with NO CLUE about this biz. and paul have even less than no clue as he showed us here perfectly.
I get what you are saying. You don't need to keep saying.

I'm just your average user who can connect to other sites via a banner. Just not yours. I do blame you for the problem. Who else do you block?

This biz sadly is more about advertisers and computer geeks than it is about porn. Are you also saying that to potential customers?
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I get what you are saying. You don't need to keep saying.

I'm just your average user who can connect to other sites via a banner. Just not yours. I do blame you for the problem. Who else do you block?

This biz sadly is more about advertisers and computer geeks than it is about porn. Are you also saying that to potential customers?
give up paul - you will NEVER understand it with this small brain.
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I checked it out. It's a tool that requires me to upload a file or enter a URL.
noooo - you have to bring your computer there always before you visit a site.
you are an unbelievable moron.
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