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Spudman · 05-15-2014, 01:40 AM

Awesome letter from Dan Bilzerian?s Lawyer responding to pornstar suing him.
http://totalfratmove.com/breaking-re...ew-off-a-roof/

Roald · 05-15-2014, 04:45 AM

Just read it a bit earlier. Awesome reply lmao

dyna mo · 05-15-2014, 07:34 AM

Was that lawyer in 3rd grade when he wrote that? That letter is embarrassing to even read and the article linked is even worse.

If that's legit, which it isn't, that lawyer is a bigger dipshit than bilzerian, who is a huge dipshit.

I'm not saying lawyers aren't huge dipshits, they are, but good lawyers don't write letters like that.

ilnjscb · 05-15-2014, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

Was that lawyer in 3rd grade when he wrote that? That letter is embarrassing to even read and the article linked is even worse.

If that's legit, which it isn't, that lawyer is a bigger dipshit than bilzerian, who is a huge dipshit.

I'm not saying lawyers aren't huge dipshits, they are, but good lawyers don't write letters like that.

That is a stupid letter - sounds like the guy either just got his law license or, more likely, realizes that he may get some press out of all this. No real opposing counsel would be anything other than stoked to face this guy. The ensuing media circus will generate more revenue for all of them than the claim.

deltav · 05-15-2014, 08:09 AM

Sounds like your average garden-variety douche, just like everyone else in this scenario.

L-Pink · 05-15-2014, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by deltav

Sounds like your average garden-variety douche, just like everyone else in this scenario.

seeandsee · 05-15-2014, 08:29 AM

if she agree to make such shoots, she knwo the risks

pornlaw · 05-15-2014, 09:29 AM

In California it's called contributory negligence... any of her claims for loss of income, pain & suffering and medical bills will be reduced by the amount the jury feels she's at fault for her own injuries. It's likely that at least 50% will be attributed to her, if not more, but it's unlikely Bizlerian will win a judgement in his favor completely. He was still somewhat at fault. The question - is does 10-50% of whatever her "damages" are - justify to her lawyer to file suit. If the lawyer is looking for mainstream TMZ press... maybe. If he's looking to get paid probably not.

As for her case against Hustler for work comp, he says Hustler requested Belzerian and her to perform the stunt. Which would make Hustler solely liable. Work comp in California is no fault so she can't even be somewhat at fault for that. If Hustler didn't it would be considered "horseplay" and not covered by insurance.

If Hustler did request it - which I find difficult to believe, Belzerian's defense would be that he was acting on behalf of Hustler and therefore they are the proper party to sue. He wasn't anything other than a participant, like her.

I wish I could see who the attorneys are on this case though.

As for attorney letters like that... it's just pompous and incorrect.

JA$ON · 05-15-2014, 09:44 AM

While the letter is not what Id want coming from the pen of someone who represents me, Dan does lead a crazy lifestyle. Im "guessing" he would only have accepted that being sent out knowing it would leak and maybe add to his public persona of the cool, "I don't give a fuck" Playboy? Just a guess.
Seems odd though. The guy can come of as a douche sometimes, but behind that public character he has created for himself, there is no question that he is an extremely savvy, successful and bright guy. You don't get to $100m+ across a variety of businesses (He's always called a pro poker player, but that came after he had already built his fortune in the market and as venture capitalist) by being stupid all the time.

dyna mo · 05-15-2014, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JA$ON

While the letter is not what Id want coming from the pen of someone who represents me, Dan does lead a crazy lifestyle. Im "guessing" he would only have accepted that being sent out knowing it would leak and maybe add to his public persona of the cool, "I don't give a fuck" Playboy? Just a guess.
Seems odd though. The guy can come of as a douche sometimes, but behind that public character he has created for himself, there is no question that he is an extremely savvy, successful and bright guy. You don't get to $100m+ across a variety of businesses (He's always called a pro poker player, but that came after he had already built his fortune in the market and as venture capitalist) by being stupid all the time.

what savvy business moves/deals/ventures has he done?

JA$ON · 05-15-2014, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

what savvy business moves/deals/ventures has he done?

I don't know individual trades or names of investments, Im just going from a variety of bio articles about him. I know he is a Venture capitalist, owns a fair amount of property and I believe he was also (or still is) a broker? Id have to look back. I will say the shit is posts on Instagram is quite entertaining, lol

dyna mo · 05-15-2014, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by JA$ON

I don't know individual trades or names of investments, Im just going from a variety of bio articles about him. I know he is a Venture capitalist, owns a fair amount of property and I believe he was also (or still is) a broker? Id have to look back. I will say the shit is posts on Instagram is quite entertaining, lol

I honestly can't dig up 1 single business move he's made. I'm curious about it. I think he got the lion's share of his $100m from his dad's hidden cash stashed away before he went to prison. All that money had to go somewhere.

Captain Peacock · 05-15-2014, 10:05 AM

Really good one !

Supz · 05-15-2014, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by JA$ON

While the letter is not what Id want coming from the pen of someone who represents me, Dan does lead a crazy lifestyle. Im "guessing" he would only have accepted that being sent out knowing it would leak and maybe add to his public persona of the cool, "I don't give a fuck" Playboy? Just a guess.
Seems odd though. The guy can come of as a douche sometimes, but behind that public character he has created for himself, there is no question that he is an extremely savvy, successful and bright guy. You don't get to $100m+ across a variety of businesses (He's always called a pro poker player, but that came after he had already built his fortune in the market and as venture capitalist) by being stupid all the time.

He didn't do shit. His dad was a venture capitalist who was basically the real Gordon Gecko.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Bilzerian

He plays on the professional poker level strictly based on the wages that he can afford. I have many friends who are very big in the pro-poker circuit. One of my best friends is a dealer for Bilzerians high stakes poker games. He is a heavy duty trust fund baby who gets fucked up on Coke & Viagra on a daily basis. He is in his early 30's and has already had 3 heart attacks from drug abuse. Although he might be savvy and bright. He is a 30 something year old trust fund baby who hangs out with porn stars and hookers all day. Yes I am sure we all wish to live the same lifestyle and I do congratulate him on his conquests. He doesn't quite deserve the credit you are giving him.

JA$ON · 05-15-2014, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

I honestly can't dig up 1 single business move he's made. I'm curious about it. I think he got the lion's share of his $100m from his dad's hidden cash stashed away before he went to prison. All that money had to go somewhere.

That vary well may be part of it, but a friend of mine knows him fairly well and while if you didn't know him, you'd swear all he does if drink, fly around the world and fuck models, apparently he is a pretty sharp guy who has his hand in a variety of things.

You may be right though, starting at 0 and getting to 50mm is about 10000x harder than starting at 50 and getting to 100, lol

But I don't know him personally so Im just going from articles and info from a friend of his. Either way, I think 99.99999% of guy on the planet would change places with him if they could.

VikingMan · 05-15-2014, 10:14 AM

She will get some sort of payout. Dan should not have done this at his rental home because that means she can go after the landlords insurance.

Hustler should have had a permit and proper insurance. Regular production insurance obviously would not cover a stunt like this. If they did not have proper insurance then yes she can sue hustler and Dan and his landlord.

Supz · 05-15-2014, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

I honestly can't dig up 1 single business move he's made. I'm curious about it. I think he got the lion's share of his $100m from his dad's hidden cash stashed away before he went to prison. All that money had to go somewhere.

His dad put a ton of money into trust funds so the FED's cannot touch it upon his arrest. There is a story somewhere (not sure if documented but I believe it is) that when his dad was arrested. Dan cashed out money from his trust fund for bail. His dad did not talk to him for 6 months because he would rather sit in jail then give the FED's the money that was in the trust fund. I havent searched for it in google today, and cant remember where I heard it. See if you can track it down

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hottoddy · 05-15-2014, 01:03 PM

No real lawyer would write a letter like that. If so, I'd retain another quick.

GUNNER · 05-15-2014, 01:10 PM

Dan is represented by Tom Goldstein. Goldstein founded the most widely read blog covering the Supreme Court, the SCOTUSblog.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Goldstein

pornlaw · 05-15-2014, 01:59 PM

I would be very surprised and disappointed if he wrote that letter...

First because we are both AU alum and two he's far above that type of response.

John-ACWM · 05-16-2014, 02:59 AM

smart and funny. Good read

GUNNER · 05-16-2014, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by pornlaw

I would be very surprised and disappointed if he wrote that letter...

First because we are both AU alum and two he's far above that type of response.

The letter is signed "TG", but of course the whole thing could be a fake.

I completely agree with you, this just doesn't read like a letter that a lawyer of his stature would draft.

pornlaw · 05-16-2014, 05:39 PM

No apparently it is. I saw it on another blog without the redactions... It's probably him.

I suppose a client with $100 million in the bank can get you to write it however he wants you to write it.

He is one the best & most expensive hired guns in American Jurisprudence.

sandman! · 05-17-2014, 12:36 AM

xato · 05-17-2014, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Supz

He didn't do shit. His dad was a venture capitalist who was basically the real Gordon Gecko.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Bilzerian

He plays on the professional poker level strictly based on the wages that he can afford. I have many friends who are very big in the pro-poker circuit. One of my best friends is a dealer for Bilzerians high stakes poker games. He is a heavy duty trust fund baby who gets fucked up on Coke & Viagra on a daily basis. He is in his early 30's and has already had 3 heart attacks from drug abuse. Although he might be savvy and bright. He is a 30 something year old trust fund baby who hangs out with porn stars and hookers all day. Yes I am sure we all wish to live the same lifestyle and I do congratulate him on his conquests. He doesn't quite deserve the credit you are giving him.

+1

ilnjscb · 05-17-2014, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by pornlaw

No apparently it is. I saw it on another blog without the redactions... It's probably him.

I suppose a client with $100 million in the bank can get you to write it however he wants you to write it.

He is one the best & most expensive hired guns in American Jurisprudence.

Bingo - while his lawyer is telling him not to he'll be insisting this is what he wants. In the end, everyone will make more on the publicity which may just be the point.

dyna mo · 05-17-2014, 08:16 AM

bilzerian doesn't sell a product so he's not going to make more from the publicity of this. HIs schtick is being a millionaire playboy and he thinks this sort of retort add to that persona. He thinks it's cool to treat people like he does.

As for the attorney, if he wants to sellout as a SC litigator, educator, analyst and more, by writing a snarky letter to a porn chick's hired gun just for the $, well, that's not the right kind of publicity that sort of attorney usually wants to attract. But I find it hard to believe an SC litigator would find any redeeming value in the publicity he gets from writing such a sophomoric legal retort.

ilnjscb · 05-17-2014, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

bilzerian doesn't sell a product so he's not going to make more from the publicity of this. HIs schtick is being a millionaire playboy and he thinks this sort of retort add to that persona. He thinks it's cool to treat people like he does.

As for the attorney, if he wants to sellout as a SC litigator, educator, analyst and more, by writing a snarky letter to a porn chick's hired gun just for the $, well, that's not the right kind of publicity that sort of attorney usually wants to attract. But I find it hard to believe an SC litigator would find any redeeming value in the publicity he gets from writing such a sophomoric legal retort.

While the above is well reasoned the siren song of wide repute, be it ill or favorable, has undone many a rational person.

Drake · 05-18-2014, 07:20 PM

I love Bilzerian's lifestyle.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 05-18-2014, 07:32 PM

ADG

dyna mo · 05-18-2014, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb

While the above is well reasoned the siren song of wide repute, be it ill or favorable, has undone many a rational person.

TBH, I don't know what this means. I do know that the "there's no such thing as bad publicity" theory is not a law or even a rule. It's a hope to turn a lemon into lemonade. That's not seeking out lemons so you can get bad publicity.

Bilzerian could have been a Hugh Hefner sort of playboy here and apologized mostly, then since he tossed the girl, toss her $50k too. WTF difference does it make, he prolly paid his *I'll do it for cash money* attorney that much to craft that POS letter. Think of the PR from millionaire playboy gives porn chcik $50k while crazy party in private jet to cabo. Finally, Bilzerian could offer that attorney's services to the girl and cover the cost of her going after whomever is liable for the on-set issues.

Mutt · 05-18-2014, 08:34 PM

Love it, a lawyer communicating like a human being not an automaton. Half the reason lawyers and judges take on their super serious personas is to convince the rest of us what they do is so important that $1,000 an hour is a reasonable price for their services.

Jesus Christ hated them, Shakespeare hated them - good enough for me!

idolbucks · 05-19-2014, 12:22 AM

Well ain't that some ish

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dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 65,131	Was that lawyer in 3rd grade when he wrote that? That letter is embarrassing to even read and the article linked is even worse. If that's legit, which it isn't, that lawyer is a bigger dipshit than bilzerian, who is a huge dipshit. I'm not saying lawyers aren't huge dipshits, they are, but good lawyers don't write letters like that.

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JA$ON Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: I'm from Downtown....Im from Mitch & Murry Posts: 1,329	While the letter is not what Id want coming from the pen of someone who represents me, Dan does lead a crazy lifestyle. Im "guessing" he would only have accepted that being sent out knowing it would leak and maybe add to his public persona of the cool, "I don't give a fuck" Playboy? Just a guess. Seems odd though. The guy can come of as a douche sometimes, but behind that public character he has created for himself, there is no question that he is an extremely savvy, successful and bright guy. You don't get to $100m+ across a variety of businesses (He's always called a pro poker player, but that came after he had already built his fortune in the market and as venture capitalist) by being stupid all the time.

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