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TCLGirls 05-21-2014 09:26 PM

I just got my Zombaio payment via wire transfer :)

Eschaton 05-21-2014 09:38 PM

Got a payment from Z today, as did last week. STILL 3 to 4 payments behind, so it doesn't appease me.

What's interesting is I started processing with CCBill and received my first payment from them, before I've yet to be paid by Zombaio for transactions made months ago. IOW, CCBill pays out in weeks from transactions while Zombaio is practically 2+ months delay. They're obviously either having cash flow problems or doing something with our money as there's no reason that it could take that long to settle or transfer between banks.

Paully 05-21-2014 09:40 PM

We got paid. I think if they had some plan on taking off with peoples money they probably should have done it at the height of their business and not wait until everyone starting pulling them.

I still am concerned and have changed primary billers but if they were planning to bail they did it all kinds of wrong. I'd definitely fire that guy.

Looks like they might be around and if you can handle the delays they have some benefits. Lots of other processors that are on time and can come close to their percentage.

Be smart and cover your ass.

As far as ruining this thread. Fuck off. I didn't put 5 pages of
THIS FUCKING BULLSHIT FUCKTARD

Zyber 05-22-2014 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 20094825)
I never mentioned Jesper he is just a support guy same I was.
David locked me out.

If you are stirring up shit, get your facts straight, might make you more credible.

Michael O, why do you keep repeating the lie that Jesper Thörnblad is "just a support guy" when that is clearly not true.

He was the Director of Zombaio Payment Services Ltd.

http://www.dandb.com/businessdirecto...a-9798326.html

Additionally, his brother Martin Thörnblad served on the board of IOMS AB.
http://www.allabolag.se/5567390165/befattningar

Paully 05-22-2014 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zyber (Post 20095731)
Michael O, why do you keep repeating the lie that Jesper Thörnblad is "just a support guy" when that is clearly not true.

He was the Director of Zombaio Payment Services Ltd.

http://www.dandb.com/businessdirecto...a-9798326.html

Additionally, his brother Martin Thörnblad served on the board of IOMS AB.
http://www.allabolag.se/5567390165/befattningar

Michael was cs. Michael and David didn't get along.

Jesper is customer service. David is his supervisor. Tomas is the accountant/money man. Possibly the primary.

Tomas may or may not be involved very much any more due to personal issues I'm told.

Now David is calling the shots.

No bullshit.

tony286 05-22-2014 05:27 AM

There are times were cheaper costs more. Make a date in your head that if u don't get paid cancel your bills give a deal to rejoin your new processor and move on. Hope winds up costing you a lot of money.trust me it was hard to cancel 300 re bills in one day after being strung along by I bill you will get paid soon no payments and they were still processing joins. Got to draw a line in the sand and move on.

Zyber 05-22-2014 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paully (Post 20095746)
Michael was cs. Michael and David didn't get along.

Jesper is customer service. David is his supervisor. Tomas is the accountant/money man. Possibly the primary.

Tomas may or may not be involved very much any more due to personal issues I'm told.

Now David is calling the shots.

No bullshit.

Thanks for the "no bullshit" reply :thumbsup

The following might be a stupid question, so please bear with me. Has anyone verified whether or not "Tomas Anderson" is a real physical person? Does he exist?

Thanks in advance. :)

H-Tom 05-22-2014 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by axel77 (Post 20095068)
settlement 2014-04-18, got the money just today?

Yes, this wire was 35 days late.

jdubs1982 05-23-2014 09:32 AM

Did people get their "We've sucked.. we're sorry.. new terms of service and rates" email? I'm just curious what people think?

beenthereb4 05-23-2014 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdubs1982 (Post 20097403)
Did people get their "We've sucked.. we're sorry.. new terms of service and rates" email? I'm just curious what people think?

Well if I hear camdough come into the forum and say that their 6 month reserve was paid to them in full and I see a picture of Michael on the front of a Wheaties box (no not the swimmer Michael ..follow along here ) .... I would glady use zombaio again , I would put them in the 6th billing position as a backup in case my current 6 billing position was injured or could not play , considering of course at that time if I wanted to have a 6th processor ...oh this is all so confusing .

ShowMe69 05-23-2014 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 20095759)
There are times were cheaper costs more. Make a date in your head that if u don't get paid cancel your bills give a deal to rejoin your new processor and move on. Hope winds up costing you a lot of money.trust me it was hard to cancel 300 re bills in one day after being strung along by I bill you will get paid soon no payments and they were still processing joins. Got to draw a line in the sand and move on.

Very smart words

ShowMe69 05-23-2014 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdubs1982 (Post 20097403)
Did people get their "We've sucked.. we're sorry.. new terms of service and rates" email? I'm just curious what people think?

I think Tomas knows a sucker is born every minute.

Robbie 05-23-2014 02:19 PM

I got some money today!

But of course...when I tried to move it from the account into Redpass...it didn't load as usual.

And now...if it's like the last 10 times in a row, it will be a week before someone answers my ticket and tells me they will "escalate" it with the bank. And then another 3 or 4 days before I ever get it.

NaughtyNerdy 05-23-2014 07:28 PM

I finally got paid yesterday. 1/6 overdue payments... Fingers crossed the rest arrive while I jump ship

Paully 05-23-2014 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20097760)
I got some money today!

But of course...when I tried to move it from the account into Redpass...it didn't load as usual.

And now...if it's like the last 10 times in a row, it will be a week before someone answers my ticket and tells me they will "escalate" it with the bank. And then another 3 or 4 days before I ever get it.

Don't even bother with a ticket Robbie. Get them on live chat. They have pushed through my redpass for me.

AmeliaG 05-23-2014 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prozac88 (Post 20095384)
Should I cancel all my members so my sites arent getting money im never going to see?


I recommend you do not do that. That is just shooting yourself in the foot.


If the worst case scenario happens and Zombaio goes out of business and does not pay, then the worst thing which could happen is you do not get paid for those members at all and you tell them the truth about what happened to you and hopefully they re-join with another processor.

If you just cancel your members, then you definitely do not get paid for those members at all, unless maybe some re-join with another processor after you burned them, assuming you can get your password file correct.

The likely scenario is that Zombaio will pay you late.

Would you rather get something later than expected or nothing ever?

adultchatpay 05-23-2014 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 20098023)
I recommend you do not do that. That is just shooting yourself in the foot.


If the worst case scenario happens and Zombaio goes out of business and does not pay, then the worst thing which could happen is you do not get paid for those members at all and you tell them the truth about what happened to you and hopefully they re-join with another processor.

If you just cancel your members, then you definitely do not get paid for those members at all, unless maybe some re-join with another processor after you burned them, assuming you can get your password file correct.

The likely scenario is that Zombaio will pay you late.

Would you rather get something later than expected or nothing ever?

Very good advice! :thumbsup:thumbsup

Gator 05-23-2014 09:08 PM

Have a little faith people.

Stop the witch hunt.

Everyone should want them to succeed. If they do, you do.

Drag them down like GloBill and iBill, who does that help? No one.

Chill.

beenthereb4 05-24-2014 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camdough (Post 20090569)
Well we stopped using Zombaio over a year ago and they currently have $9500 dollars from our 5% reserve which we have not gotten. Support Tickets go unanswered. Emails directly to Tomas Anderson do not get replied to. Live Support is a joke. All he says is that he will try to get someone in accounting to answer me.

This says it all . We are all in the same industry here . If they did it to camdough they can do it to anyone . Just because they may have paid you in the past or present or even future does not mean they will not repeat what they have done with camdoughs' reserves to other people .It is not a witch hunt , It is what is happening , people they owe money to are not getting paid on time and some are never going to receive their money .They can make excuses all day long , but the facts are they are short on reserves and have spent more than they took in .Their old system did not produce them enough revenue so their new improved system is to charge less and hold the money longer .They have had camdoughs' reserves for over a year now . not $95 but $9500 .Emails to Tomas Anderson do not get a reply . Tomas Anderson is good on talking about how he will fix things , but he is not good on fixing things or paying his customers .

prozac88 05-25-2014 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 20098023)
I recommend you do not do that. That is just shooting yourself in the foot.


If the worst case scenario happens and Zombaio goes out of business and does not pay, then the worst thing which could happen is you do not get paid for those members at all and you tell them the truth about what happened to you and hopefully they re-join with another processor.

If you just cancel your members, then you definitely do not get paid for those members at all, unless maybe some re-join with another processor after you burned them, assuming you can get your password file correct.

The likely scenario is that Zombaio will pay you late.

Would you rather get something later than expected or nothing ever?

This is a good idea, thank you... I am in the process of moving over to CCBill along with a full site redesign.

Hopefully I get paid and I can transfer everyone over from Zomaio to CCBill

JasonCollins 05-26-2014 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cameltoepro (Post 20093521)
Thanks Jason.

:thumbsup :thumbsup

SmurfGuy 05-26-2014 09:52 AM

Sorry wrong reply

xxxman2 05-27-2014 10:13 PM

I got paid...

jcowens2007 05-28-2014 07:18 AM

They owe me a mere $340 from earlier this month. Won't send me the damn wire. Luckily I use them for a dying site. So, my payouts trigger every 6 weeks or so. Of course I've made it a routine that when payout day hits, I open a ticket and begin hassling them for 4 weeks till I get my wire.

By the way here is a copy of the mass email they sent last weekend:

Dear Zombaio Client,

As I am sure you have noticed, we have been experiencing more problems than usual in paying out on time recently and many people have speculated (as they have done for years) that we are on the verge of going out of business.


Whilst we understand that many of you have lost money when other processors have gone out of business in the past, and that you understandably get nervous when payments are late, we want to assure you that our problems are temporary and a knock on effect of issues our main acquirer had with their USD settlement and exchange bank which meant that their settlements to us were quite significantly delayed.


We tried to keep things going as best as we could from our reserves during this period, but this caught us a little unaware, and it has taken time for us to straighten things out which I am pleased to say that we now have and we should be able to bring everybody''s settlements fully up to date during the course of next months.


We will however need to make changes ongoing if we are to avoid falling back in this hole. When we first came to the market we tried to give both the best rates and the fastest payouts and we now know that unless you have a much greater share of the market than we do, and a faster settlement than our acquirers are able to give us, this is quite an impossible model to sustain.


Consequently, we have decided to stop trying to be the cheapest AND the fastest and concentrate on being a reliable low cost processor which of course means we need to change our terms of business.


Rather than just giving people the choice of accepting our new terms or finding a new processor, we have decided to come up with 3 different pricing/settlement models that we are confident we can deliver ongoing and that we hope at least one of which is workable for your business.


The choices are as follows:


1. Monthly - settlement around 20th of the month for previous months transactions. 1.2% decrease in our normal fees
and usual 5% rolling reserve.

2. Bi-Weekly settlement periods. Paid out around 20 days after period end. We will continue to offer existing rates and
usual 5% rolling reserve.

3. Weekly settlements. Paid out around 20 days after period end. Normal rates increased by 3.5% and rolling reserve
increased to 10%


All of these options will continue to free of any annual card fees and it is our intention to switch to these new terms on 1st June.


Your account will by default be changed to the monthly payouts option with your processing rate automatically reduced by 1.2% but if you prefer to change to the bi-weekly payouts option at your existing rates or our weekly payouts option at the premium rate with the increase in reserve, all you have to do is logon to ZOA after 1st June and make the switch in "change banking details".


I very much regret that we have to make these changes, but I feel that going forward, it is important that you can count on Zombaio the way you used to be able to in the past.


Our interest in this business is long term, and whilst I accept that we have made mistakes in the past, a lot of these have come from us trying to improve the service that we offer. We were the first processor to offer settlement to a prepaid card, and we were the first to offer EU payment by ACH. It has not been without problems of course, but we will keep working on these things until the problems disappear.


In addition, we will shortly be adding some exciting new payment options for your customers. These include SEPA Debit, SOFORT banking and BitCoin. For CAM sites we will add a new API for card on file debits which we have been testing with very good results during the last few months.


We will continue to try new ideas, but in the future, we will try to do so without impacting on the efficiency of our core operation.


We really are sorry for any inconvenience and stress our unreliability recently has caused especially if you have reached out to Support or to me personally and not received the answer or action that you were looking for. I hope that you now understand a little better our situation and will give us a chance to earn back your trust over the coming months. If anything in this email is not clear or if you have any questions or comments, please let us know.


Best regards,

Tomas Anderson
VP, Zombaio LLC

axel77 05-28-2014 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20097760)
I got some money today!

But of course...when I tried to move it from the account into Redpass...it didn't load as usual.

And now...if it's like the last 10 times in a row, it will be a week before someone answers my ticket and tells me they will "escalate" it with the bank. And then another 3 or 4 days before I ever get it.

Hey, same here, ALL:

It didn't load as usual.
It's like the last 6 times in a row
Don't even submitting tickets anymore (waste of time)
4 or 7 days before I ever get it

ShowMe69 05-28-2014 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by axel77 (Post 20102912)
Hey, same here, ALL:

It didn't load as usual.
It's like the last 6 times in a row
Don't even submitting tickets anymore (waste of time)
4 or 7 days before I ever get it

The delays are on purpose, it gives them a chance to try and catch up on the money they spent which wasn't theirs, same as the additional delays in payouts. Hard to pay what you have already spent.
Ponzi 101.

Get what they owe you and move on to a more reputable processor :2 cents:

prozac88 05-28-2014 04:33 PM

It wouldn't bother me so much that its late, but what bothers me is that there is no definite date.

prozac88 05-29-2014 04:52 PM

I got paid 1/4 of what im owed today

Eschaton 06-01-2014 09:35 PM

I got 2 payouts last week. It's the 2nd there and they said on the 1st you'd be able to change your payout dates and would be moved to monthly? What ever happened with that?

Rikki-Nyx 06-02-2014 12:37 AM

they're suppose to send 3 payments this month

ShowMe69 06-02-2014 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eschaton (Post 20107810)
I got 2 payouts last week. It's the 2nd there and they said on the 1st you'd be able to change your payout dates and would be moved to monthly? What ever happened with that?

I can't believe you are buying what Tomas is selling..Ponzi ...trying to payback what they used/stole...it never ends good.

xxxclusive 06-02-2014 01:44 PM

got paid today. payment had 2 weeks delay for my european account.

NewNick 06-02-2014 02:16 PM

These guys have clearly been insolvent for sometime. In some countries it is actually illegal to continue to trade when you are unable to settle your debts.

Given that only a fraction of their customer base will be gfy readers, and then given that losts of peeps will be too ashamed to actually voice their concerns, I would imagine that they need a considerable cash input to remain in business.

So they plan to increase their margin to return to profitability, even if they manage that it will be a long long time before they fix their balance sheet. If ever.

In short jump.

They are fucked.

Robbie 06-02-2014 09:01 PM

Well, here I am again playing the "RedPass Did Not Load" game. :(

Fucking shit is really, really starting to piss me off.

xXXtesy10 06-02-2014 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20109381)
Well, here I am again playing the "RedPass Did Not Load" game. :(

Fucking shit is really, really starting to piss me off.


ShowMe69 06-03-2014 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20109381)
Well, here I am again playing the "RedPass Did Not Load" game. :(

Fucking shit is really, really starting to piss me off.

Robbie I thought you had moved on from Zombaio? Are you just talking rebills?

Robbie 06-03-2014 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShowMe69 (Post 20109802)
Robbie I thought you had moved on from Zombaio? Are you just talking rebills?

Yep, rebills and of course all that money that is in "reserves". :(

It's just unreal... 2 years ago I was processing through them and my money through them was growing very nicely.

I can't fathom why they would destroy themselves like this.

If they drove me off with this bullshit, you know they have driven every other person off too.

No way they are going to have the incoming revenue to continue. It's just stupid on their part.

ShowMe69 06-03-2014 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20109984)
Yep, rebills and of course all that money that is in "reserves". :(

It's just unreal... 2 years ago I was processing through them and my money through them was growing very nicely.

I can't fathom why they would destroy themselves like this.

If they drove me off with this bullshit, you know they have driven every other person off too.

No way they are going to have the incoming revenue to continue. It's just stupid on their part.

Usually boils down to one thing GREED...:2 cents:

czarina 06-03-2014 10:03 AM

You guys are making fun of him, but think of how hard some webmasters work to make their money, hours upon hours in front of their computers, and then someone pulls the rug from under their feet, and they don't get paid for their hard work.

Robbie 06-03-2014 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShowMe69 (Post 20110034)
Usually boils down to one thing GREED...:2 cents:

yeah...I'm greedy too.

But for fuck's sake, when you do what they have done you are doing the OPPOSITE of greed.

This isn't just like Epassporte. That was nothing but a way to send money.

This is a billing processor. A steady flow of revenue that was pretty damn big.

To take people's money and use it on something else, fuck up your business, and end up ruined...that's like leaving tens of millions of dollars on the table.

If they had stuck to their original business plan, they would have continued to grow. And by now they would be on of the biggest in the adult industry.

And that revenue would have continued on for years and years.

Look at CC Bill. They are greedy as fuck. But they are also smart.

There is more money to be made over the long run than in doing something stupid like Zombaio has done.

They committed suicide.


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