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RegUser 08-21-2014 03:35 PM

still no money for me.
and it does not looks like it is coming soon either

wslover317 08-21-2014 03:46 PM

I got another "tomorrow" on live chat today with Michael. He was pretending he didn't know anything because his supervisor wasnt around. Guess he doesn't realize people read these boards and know exactly who he is. Shit keeps getting deeper. 2 payments behind now. My first two payments with them. Haven't seen a dime from them, ever. Oh, and it's my money!

RFremont 08-21-2014 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paully (Post 20199856)
Everyone that gets on chat or calls them has communicated with either Jesper, David or Michael. We don't have barbeque together and sit and talk about when we where young men.

I don't know the guys or have a batline to contact them. I go through the same channels everyone else has. They were great, then not so great, then got really bad. So we pulled the plug and I have communicated that experience here. I even suggested downloading your csv file and urged people to check into backup processors. As far as I'm concerned I don't owe you or anyone else shit, but I thought letting people know payments have gone out might be of some interest to others.

As difficult as it may be would you kindly get off my dick now.

Thanks,

Paully


Cool. You started out with a decent logical explanation of your position which I can accept, but then true to form at the end you return to your standard douchebag status. Give someone enough rope...

To this I would generally say 'let me add you to the list of programs I'll never work with', but since max hardcore is already a pile of shit, no action taken.

ShowMe69 08-21-2014 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freeforlife07 (Post 20199573)
Well shit they must Love me -- Got paid Tuesday and only one payment behind -- Im teamZombaio as long as they are paying my rebills -- I am more worried about Zombaio's activities to sign up new customers- where and how are they promoting? thats the question to if they will sustain themselves pass these latest issues ... But im being paid - Client since 2008 and have removed them but brought them back recently as a back up biller - just want to process one or two new ones with them every few days so they will not flip the switch on my payouts for not processing IF THATS WHaT THEY ARE DOING-- shit you have to play the crook's game sometimes - But im being Paid

We will see if you are singing that tune by the end of the year

freeforlife07 08-21-2014 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShowMe69 (Post 20200407)
We will see if you are singing that tune by the end of the year

Honestly i would hate to lose 3gs in rebills but its only 3gs and i will let it roll and die out as my subscribers move to my other processor- The way i figure it id rather just ride and die or ride and thrive instead of asking them from my rebills "WHICH IS NOT HAPPENING" Or telling customers "Im Canceling your subscription Please Sign up again with our Other biller" which is not Happening -----.. and doing the math if they closed today and im out 3000 in rebills :/ WEEELLLL over the 6 year relationship and their low rates HELL they have saved me $$$$$ - SO its bitter sweet FUCK IT im Riding -- buuut only as a back up biller :thumbsup

RegUser 08-22-2014 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 20198193)
Why would anyone in business cancel their own money?

Worst case scenario: you don't get paid that money.

Kinda bad scenario: you get paid late.

Ideal scenario: you get paid on time.

It is my money when I get it in MY bank account. Not while it is being promised.
I am the one who has to pay the webhosting charges, advertising costs, seo companies, content producers.
And none of them are willing to sell their products to me based on my promises or are kind to me if I am late.
The worst possible scenario is when biling processor gets paid/ cc companes get their cut/ subscribers get their content/ everyone else gets paid and I am the one who pays it.
I would rather slap everyone back

and of course it does not matter that I still dont have a cent in my account, a month after payment status was "cleared" and a week after payment was "assured"
good luck to anyone who is still letting his websites payments be handled by zombaio

RegUser 08-23-2014 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wslover317 (Post 20200353)
I got another "tomorrow" on live chat today with Michael. He was pretending he didn't know anything because his supervisor wasnt around. Guess he doesn't realize people read these boards and know exactly who he is. Shit keeps getting deeper. 2 payments behind now. My first two payments with them. Haven't seen a dime from them, ever. Oh, and it's my money!

I got that twice so far. Tomorrow never comes.

RegUser 08-24-2014 08:29 AM

And still no money

nikki99 08-24-2014 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RegUser (Post 20203066)
And still no money

Jesus.....

beenthereb4 08-24-2014 05:21 PM

H.......

AmeliaG 08-24-2014 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RegUser (Post 20201617)
It is my money when I get it in MY bank account. Not while it is being promised.
I am the one who has to pay the webhosting charges, advertising costs, seo companies, content producers.
And none of them are willing to sell their products to me based on my promises or are kind to me if I am late.
The worst possible scenario is when biling processor gets paid/ cc companes get their cut/ subscribers get their content/ everyone else gets paid and I am the one who pays it.
I would rather slap everyone back

and of course it does not matter that I still dont have a cent in my account, a month after payment status was "cleared" and a week after payment was "assured"
good luck to anyone who is still letting his websites payments be handled by zombaio

What difference does it make for you if (a) you don't get paid because you canceled you own money or (b) you don't get paid because Zombaio goes out of business after processing transactions which have negligible variable cost to you?

Is it just that you think you are punishing them for paying you late by making both of your revenues smaller? Depending on your %, every $1 you cost Zombaio = a cost of $9 to $19 cost to you. Do you really want to cut off your own nose to spite your face?

lagcam 08-24-2014 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 20203530)
What difference does it make for you if (a) you don't get paid because you canceled you own money or (b) you don't get paid because Zombaio goes out of business after processing transactions which have negligible variable cost to you?

Is it just that you think you are punishing them for paying you late by making both of your revenues smaller? Depending on your %, every $1 you cost Zombaio = a cost of $9 to $19 cost to you. Do you really want to cut off your own nose to spite your face?

People like to sound off. It doesn't help or change anything, but seems to make them feel better to feel like there is some kind of win for them in doing something like this. Not that most of them would actually do it of course.

Reality is that there is no win to be had here, just degrees of loss because even if we end up being paid in full, the fact that we were paid late is still a cost to us albeit a much more acceptable cost than the alternative.

My stance is the same that it has always been - that I believe everything will get caught up eventually and that if they get their asses in gear, they should be able to restore some of their credibility as time goes on, but I would be lying if I said I wasn't disappointed in how long they are taking to turn this around and that there has been no merchant communication since June.

ShowMe69 08-24-2014 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcowens2007 (Post 20102565)
They owe me a mere $340 from earlier this month. Won't send me the damn wire. Luckily I use them for a dying site. So, my payouts trigger every 6 weeks or so. Of course I've made it a routine that when payout day hits, I open a ticket and begin hassling them for 4 weeks till I get my wire.

By the way here is a copy of the mass email they sent last weekend:

Dear Zombaio Client,

As I am sure you have noticed, we have been experiencing more problems than usual in paying out on time recently and many people have speculated (as they have done for years) that we are on the verge of going out of business.


Whilst we understand that many of you have lost money when other processors have gone out of business in the past, and that you understandably get nervous when payments are late, we want to assure you that our problems are temporary and a knock on effect of issues our main acquirer had with their USD settlement and exchange bank which meant that their settlements to us were quite significantly delayed.


We tried to keep things going as best as we could from our reserves during this period, but this caught us a little unaware, and it has taken time for us to straighten things out which I am pleased to say that we now have and we should be able to bring everybody''s settlements fully up to date during the course of next months.


We will however need to make changes ongoing if we are to avoid falling back in this hole. When we first came to the market we tried to give both the best rates and the fastest payouts and we now know that unless you have a much greater share of the market than we do, and a faster settlement than our acquirers are able to give us, this is quite an impossible model to sustain.


Consequently, we have decided to stop trying to be the cheapest AND the fastest and concentrate on being a reliable low cost processor which of course means we need to change our terms of business.


Rather than just giving people the choice of accepting our new terms or finding a new processor, we have decided to come up with 3 different pricing/settlement models that we are confident we can deliver ongoing and that we hope at least one of which is workable for your business.


The choices are as follows:


1. Monthly - settlement around 20th of the month for previous months transactions. 1.2% decrease in our normal fees
and usual 5% rolling reserve.

2. Bi-Weekly settlement periods. Paid out around 20 days after period end. We will continue to offer existing rates and
usual 5% rolling reserve.

3. Weekly settlements. Paid out around 20 days after period end. Normal rates increased by 3.5% and rolling reserve
increased to 10%


All of these options will continue to free of any annual card fees and it is our intention to switch to these new terms on 1st June.


Your account will by default be changed to the monthly payouts option with your processing rate automatically reduced by 1.2% but if you prefer to change to the bi-weekly payouts option at your existing rates or our weekly payouts option at the premium rate with the increase in reserve, all you have to do is logon to ZOA after 1st June and make the switch in "change banking details".


I very much regret that we have to make these changes, but I feel that going forward, it is important that you can count on Zombaio the way you used to be able to in the past.


Our interest in this business is long term, and whilst I accept that we have made mistakes in the past, a lot of these have come from us trying to improve the service that we offer. We were the first processor to offer settlement to a prepaid card, and we were the first to offer EU payment by ACH. It has not been without problems of course, but we will keep working on these things until the problems disappear.


In addition, we will shortly be adding some exciting new payment options for your customers. These include SEPA Debit, SOFORT banking and BitCoin. For CAM sites we will add a new API for card on file debits which we have been testing with very good results during the last few months.


We will continue to try new ideas, but in the future, we will try to do so without impacting on the efficiency of our core operation.


We really are sorry for any inconvenience and stress our unreliability recently has caused especially if you have reached out to Support or to me personally and not received the answer or action that you were looking for. I hope that you now understand a little better our situation and will give us a chance to earn back your trust over the coming months. If anything in this email is not clear or if you have any questions or comments, please let us know.


Best regards,

Tomas Anderson
VP, Zombaio LLC

According to Tomas everybody should be current now..it has been 3 months since this bullshit email:pimp

How is that new Zombaio payout schedule working for everyone?

beenthereb4 08-24-2014 08:31 PM

Christ.....

Paully 08-25-2014 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShowMe69 (Post 20203652)
According to Tomas everybody should be current now..it has been 3 months since this bullshit email:pimp

How is that new Zombaio payout schedule working for everyone?

It's going pretty good. How about you? I see your paysite has ads blasted all over it and none of your preview videos are watchable.

Scraping nickels for ad companies instead of selling joins? Hmmmmm.

You must have good shit. Bang up job.

My bad. I have to enter my birthday. ;) Good one.

RegUser 08-25-2014 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 20203530)
What difference does it make for you if (a) you don't get paid because you canceled you own money or (b) you don't get paid because Zombaio goes out of business after processing transactions which have negligible variable cost to you?

Big difference actually. In former case I threw away money, in latter case I let someone steal the money.

ShowMe69 08-25-2014 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paully (Post 20203795)
It's going pretty good. How about you? I see your paysite has ads blasted all over it and none of your preview videos are watchable.

Scraping nickels for ad companies instead of selling joins? Hmmmmm.

You must have good shit. Bang up job.

My bad. I have to enter my birthday. ;) Good one.

Scraping nickels, really...lol :pimp
I think not:winkwink:

http://www.cuckoldland.com/WP_201408...o__highres.jpg

RFremont 08-25-2014 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paully (Post 20203795)
It's going pretty good. How about you? I see your paysite has ads blasted all over it and none of your preview videos are watchable.

Scraping nickels for ad companies instead of selling joins? Hmmmmm.

You must have good shit. Bang up job.

My bad. I have to enter my birthday. ;) Good one.


Hey assfuck if you don't have anything positive to contribute, which you already confirmed you didn't, stay off the thread. What the fuck do you care what his site looks like, does that mean he's not entitled to being paid on time?? punk fuckin jackass.

Paully 08-25-2014 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RFremont (Post 20204285)
Hey assfuck if you don't have anything positive to contribute, which you already confirmed you didn't, stay off the thread. What the fuck do you care what his site looks like, does that mean he's not entitled to being paid on time?? punk fuckin jackass.

Neither one of you idiots has anything positive to contribute to the thread nor do either of you have any money with Zombaio. You are a whiny little cocksucker with no contribution to the industry as far as I can tell.

Now why don't you head over to showme69's house and take turns sucking each other off or better yet you guys can call up beaner and all three of you can play Chinese finger cuffs.

ShowMe69 08-25-2014 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paully (Post 20204321)
Neither one of you idiots has anything positive to contribute to the thread nor do either of you have any money with Zombaio. You are a whiny little cocksucker with no contribution to the industry as far as I can tell.

Now why don't you head over to showme69's house and take turns sucking each other off or better yet you guys can call up beaner and all three of you can play Chinese finger cuffs.

You are a strange little man Paully, why not re-direct your obvious frustration and anger toward those that are fucking over you like Zombaio, not those that are pointing out the shady and un-ethical business practices of Zombaio. :pimp

I see you drop the nickel angle once your realized I would make you look like an absolute fool....good move on your part :pimp

Now stop bitching at me and get on Zombaio support and try and get all your money (rebills and reserves), and if you have all of yours, why not bitch for those that don't :thumbsup

Paully 08-25-2014 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShowMe69 (Post 20204339)
You are a strange little man Paully, why not re-direct your obvious frustration and anger toward those that are fucking over you like Zombaio, not those that are pointing out the shady and un-ethical business practices of Zombaio. :pimp

I see you drop the nickel angle once your realized I would make you look like an absolute fool....good move on your part :pimp

Now stop bitching at me and get on Zombaio support and try and get all your money (rebills and reserves), and if you have all of yours, why not bitch for those that don't :thumbsup

How about I worry about my money and you worry about not violating BRAM rules so you don't lose another merchant account:winkwink:

BTW nice backyard. I'd get something just like that if I ever moved to Northern Mexico.

RFremont 08-25-2014 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paully (Post 20204321)
Neither one of you idiots has anything positive to contribute to the thread nor do either of you have any money with Zombaio. You are a whiny little cocksucker with no contribution to the industry as far as I can tell.

Now why don't you head over to showme69's house and take turns sucking each other off or better yet you guys can call up beaner and all three of you can play Chinese finger cuffs.

I bet that thought turns you on you little queerbait. You injected yourself in the thread talking about you had your issue resolved, you refused to help or even be bothered to speak on behalf of your fellow webmasters and in the time you argued that in several threads, you could have easily done something positive. So shut the fuck up, people have a right to vent about thieves and crooks, just like I have a right to vent about little faggots like you. And your program is a pile of shit too like your fuckin face.

RFremont 08-25-2014 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paully (Post 20204357)
How about I worry about my money and you worry about not violating BRAM rules so you don't lose another merchant account:winkwink:

BTW nice backyard. I'd get something just like that if I ever moved to Northern Mexico.

How about you shut the fuck up or post pics of your house big baller, let's see what a big shot you are.

ShowMe69 08-25-2014 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paully (Post 20204357)
How about I worry about my money and you worry about not violating BRAM rules so you don't lose another merchant account:winkwink:

BTW nice backyard. I'd get something just like that if I ever moved to Northern Mexico.

If you noticed I don't worry about you, but you seem to have a fetish about mentioning me in your post, when nothing I say is directed specifically at you? :(

Don't worry my merchant issue is covered and even if it isn't , I will be ok :thumbsup

Paully 08-25-2014 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShowMe69 (Post 20204375)
If you noticed I don't worry about you, but you seem to have a fetish about mentioning me in your post, when nothing I say is directed specifically at you? :(

Don't worry my merchant issue is covered and even if it isn't , I will be ok :thumbsup

oooops Fake nick slip huh:winkwink:

ShowMe69 08-25-2014 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paully (Post 20204377)
oooops Fake nick slip huh:winkwink:

Sorry clown I don't do fake accounts, why would I need to, whatever I want to say I post as me. I don't have to see your house or your cars, cuz I already know I have more shit than you and you know that too, so give it a rest and stop attacking people who are pissed off at a company, they feel did them wrong.

And sorry my house is in Texas and cost over 7 figures, so drop it:pimp

wslover317 08-25-2014 11:53 AM

Getting back on subject
 
Something seriously needs to be done. Getting tired of going on Live Chat daily to ask where my money is. Just to get the constant "Later this week - Friday. Is delayed because of delays from our bank - insert bullshit line here"

I have already started moving to a different processor, but I want MY money.

beenthereb4 08-25-2014 03:08 PM

System Message
2014-0*-** **:**
*** * Inquiry escalated to second line support by operator

http://nicepantyhose.com/media/blogs...blog/giphy.gif

Gotta Love the Zombaio Support:helpme


AmeliaG 08-25-2014 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paully (Post 20204377)
oooops Fake nick slip huh:winkwink:

Yeah, the fake nickery in this thread is pretty egregious.

We should have one of those jelly bean jar contests where we try to guess his many real posters are in this thread without going over.

Paully 08-25-2014 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 20204897)
Yeah, the fake nickery in this thread is pretty egregious.

We should have one of those jelly bean jar contests where we try to guess his many real posters are in this thread without going over.

That would be fun. I'm on the fence about who rfremont is, much like his sexuality. If I had to guess I would go with beaner do to his homoerotic name calling and ugly face line.

Both are idiots and can't follow rules then cry when they get called on their shit. I thought showme69 might be a little smarter but he thinks he is in the same league as Max Hardcore with his nice backyard in Tejas Northern Mexico.

A simple google of Max Hardcore's house should remind him where he stands in this business. Anyways, doesn't look like these clowns are going to stop and somehow they think that helps everybody. Fucktards.

JFK 08-25-2014 10:46 PM

550 messages:2 cents:

ShowMe69 08-26-2014 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paully (Post 20204917)
That would be fun. I'm on the fence about who rfremont is, much like his sexuality. If I had to guess I would go with beaner do to his homoerotic name calling and ugly face line.

Both are idiots and can't follow rules then cry when they get called on their shit. I thought showme69 might be a little smarter but he thinks he is in the same league as Max Hardcore with his nice backyard in Tejas Northern Mexico.

A simple google of Max Hardcore's house should remind him where he stands in this business. Anyways, doesn't look like these clowns are going to stop and somehow they think that helps everybody. Fucktards.

I see you still cant give it a rest. Paully you really want to talk about following rules with your background? And I saw your house way before I made my comment and what I said, it still stands true so let it go or you will look silly:Oh crap

Not crying just pissed unlike you, I dont liked to get fucked over especially when it has to do with money.

H-Tom 08-26-2014 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RegUser (Post 20203066)
And still no money

It's hard to except that they will gonna pay you on sunday ;)

Anyway they paid me these two late payouts. Im glad that Zombaio is still in the bussiness.

wslover317 08-26-2014 07:14 PM

When did you get paid and how far behind are you now?

Quote:

Originally Posted by H-Tom (Post 20205873)
It's hard to except that they will gonna pay you on sunday ;)

Anyway they paid me these two late payouts. Im glad that Zombaio is still in the bussiness.


H-Tom 08-27-2014 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wslover317 (Post 20206320)
When did you get paid and how far behind are you now?

Yesterday.

I've got right now two payouts with settlement set to 2014-08-26 and 2014-08-11.

Right now I have aroud 50% of sales and rebils coming from Verotel that is enough to pay bills from everything from hosting and taxes to new content and ads.

Im not sending new sales to zombaio anymore. However they have a great system with a very good rates, so if they will resolve all problems and start paying on time I will probably add them as a second biller.

Zyber 08-27-2014 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wslover317 (Post 20206320)
When did you get paid and how far behind are you now?

Settlement date 2014-07-28.

Status has changed to "Payout Cleared".

No payment was sent to the bank account - despite the status claiming otherwise.

Thieves.

wslover317 08-27-2014 07:46 AM

My first two payouts from 8-5 and 8-20 both showing cleared, havent seen a nickle of it.

I agree, I wish they would get on track as well.

H-Tom 08-27-2014 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wslover317 (Post 20206800)
My first two payouts from 8-5 and 8-20 both showing cleared, havent seen a nickle of it.

I agree, I wish they would get on track as well.


Cleared status does not mean anything. You need to wait at least one month after the settlement date.

RFremont 08-27-2014 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paully (Post 20204917)
That would be fun. I'm on the fence about who rfremont is, much like his sexuality. If I had to guess I would go with beaner do to his homoerotic name calling and ugly face line.

Both are idiots and can't follow rules then cry when they get called on their shit. I thought showme69 might be a little smarter but he thinks he is in the same league as Max Hardcore with his nice backyard in Tejas Northern Mexico.

A simple google of Max Hardcore's house should remind him where he stands in this business. Anyways, doesn't look like these clowns are going to stop and somehow they think that helps everybody. Fucktards.


I see you're mouthing off again like the little queerbait that you are. I can assure you, you don't know a thing about me and I don't go by any other nick... and I called you ugly because you're fuckin ugly.

Now back to you... so this is the 'mansion' you are bragging about?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iigZ4E0exY

bwhahahahaha...!!! let's get this straight, you are grandstanding about a little, very below average house that doesn't even belong to you but your boss, an old coot that had to do serious jail time to get himself that shack. And you're hanging off his nuts showboating something that doesn't even belong to you in an effort to belittle others? hahahahahahah


The only person not helping here is you, shut the fuck up and allow people to relay information about the crooks and thieves in this industry... just like I'm allowed to discuss wanna-be big mouthed jackasses like you. You and your program are fuckin repulsive and pathetic perpetuating violence against women, ironic that you'd act so high and mighty representing a program that showcases a 65 year old coot pissing on a girl with his shriveled cock. GET THE FUCK OUT!

wslover317 08-28-2014 04:19 AM

No, I should be paid ON the settlement date

Quote:

Originally Posted by H-Tom (Post 20207431)
Cleared status does not mean anything. You need to wait at least one month after the settlement date.



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