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Old 12-23-2013, 02:15 PM   #1
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Dear Mike South,

As an employee of the massive porn company Manwin aka ?Mindgeek?, I read your blog almost every day. Most of my colleagues do as well. As you know, conditions for employees here have taken a huge hit and, as you predicted, our Christmas bonuses have been withheld. All the negative impacts have created a huge sense of disparity and injustice within the employee community. Morale is at an all-time low, and management keeps sending us letters full of empty thanks for our dedication and efforts, and reminding us not to speak with media. In retaliation to all the shit we are being fed, I would like to forward to you an open letter to be addressed to the new owners of our company. I think it would be at least a small consolation for the many employees here who read your blog to see someone standing up to this harsh treatment in some small way.
I will obviously remain anonymous to avoid being the next victim of ?layoffs?

Dear Mr. Antoon and Mr. Tassillo,

I send the following letter in anonymity to avoid being unfairly penalized for speaking the truth on a sensitive matter. I have been a hard working employee at Mindgeek for some time, and have felt my efforts have been fairly acknowledged in the past. However I have quickly become disenchanted with this company immediately following it?s change of ownership. This recent disappointment has come into sharp focus after the last email I received from management this year. The email echoed similar attitudes taken up in previous messages sent after M100, exorbitantly thanking us all for our dedication and ensuring us that we are of value. However there has been an excess in flattering words, and a great lack of actual recognition of our work as of late. It?s all fine and dandy to prattle on and on about how our contribution has allowed the company to be so successful, how ?each individual is important to the company? and thank us for our hard work. But the austerity measures and cuts we have had to endure without so much as an apology or even an explanation are leaving a very bad taste in our mouths. I speak for my colleagues when I say we work very hard for this company because we are treated well, and are rewarded for our extra efforts. But it seems that is not the future plan for Mindgeek employees. Watching a huge amount of colleagues laid off, and having our breaks cut by 1/3 each day, which we need to refresh our minds and keep us sharp; was bad enough. But withholding our Christmas bonus without a warning, leaving us in the dark so that we are expecting it and budget our Christmas accordingly, and then are surprised at the end of the month with no bonus and a huge hole in our finances; without so much as an apology or even a humble explanation ? this is beyond what I had imagined this management capable of. It is deplorable and completely lacks any dignity or respect for us. You insult our intelligence by throwing fancy Christmas parties with shiny draw prizes in hopes it will make us forget about our declining conditions, and add insult to injury as you continue to send us emails full of empty thanks and hollow good wishes. All this is particularly abhorrent in the light of the Christmas season approaching, one of generosity and goodwill ? as it seems; only for the upper management.

I am not the only one who faces my future employment here with apprehension. After watching how many negative changes were implemented within only the last few months, I dread how quickly all our other benefits will soon dissolve; and the employees of Mindgeek will be just another mass of under-appreciated nine-to-fivers working for another huge corporation just like the rest of the thankless, high-turnover companies in Montreal. It will be sad to see the day when your loyal employees grow tired of empty praise and move on to a company that gives them actual recognition for their efforts and talents.

I hope you all think of the dedicated workers whose holidays you have spoiled as you enjoy your Christmas vacations.

Sincerely,
Your Loyal Employees.
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Old 12-23-2013, 02:20 PM   #2
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What part of "Bonus" does he not understand? oh and if this is a real letter I don't feel sorry for the employees at all anyhow.
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Old 12-23-2013, 02:21 PM   #3
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Pete - I apologize I forgot about those of you educated in public schools that have the attention span of gnat and the intellectual ability to match.
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Instead of a xmas bonus they got the xmas boner in the pooper.

This brings 2 stories to mind:

1 about chickens hatching

another 1 with Chevy Chase and Randy Quaid
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What part of "Bonus" does he not understand?
Nice catch. Since when people started to feel entitled to get bonuses?
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Old 12-23-2013, 02:28 PM   #7
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it's extremely poorly written.
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Sadly this is what happens when people don't treat a bonus as a bonus.
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Sadly this is what happens when people don't treat a bonus as a bonus.
Agreed.

Just because someone gets a bonus one year, that doesn't mean they will get one the following year and shouldn't depend on said bonus arriving.
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Meanwhile manwin/Mindgeek is moving all the tubesites it owns to Homg Komg. Interesting move.
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Agreed.

Just because someone gets a bonus one year, that doesn't mean they will get one the following year and shouldn't depend on said bonus arriving.
Even worse is how he is saying how bad things are going but still expects the bonus.

Perhaps this letter says a bit more about some mindgeek employees than mindgeek itself.
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Old 12-23-2013, 02:45 PM   #12
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Even worse is how he is saying how bad things are going but still expects the bonus.

Perhaps this letter says a bit more about some mindgeek employees than mindgeek itself.
Exactly. How dumb should you be to expect bonus when things in your company goes bad
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We didnt get our annual bonuses this year either. I not bitching here or writing letters to whoever.

I'm grateful to have a job. Some people geeez!
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Sadly this is what happens when people don't treat a bonus as a bonus.
This was probably treated as a last straw, triggering the letter. I'm almost certain it wasn't just because of the annual bonus(es)
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This was probably treated as a last straw, triggering the letter. I'm almost certain it wasn't just because of the annual bonus(es)
Perhaps, the letter is just a bit poorly written.
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This was probably treated as a last straw, triggering the letter. I'm almost certain it wasn't just because of the annual bonus(es)
That's how I took it, but yeah, it wasn't very well written.
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Many companies offer bonuses and is part of employee contract. Those bonuses reflect the success of the department, or company as a whole.

When employees expect these bonuses it says the company is doing well. When lay offs occur, qnd bonuses stop, it shows the company is not doing well.

Regardless how poorly written the letter is, it is easy to read between the lines.
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sounds like a staff rationalization is in order ...
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going by how poorly written the letter is, it was a low-level employee who wrote it. i'm not sure of many businesses that do contracts including bonuses with those employees.
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In defense of Manwin employees it seems you are all focusing on the "bonus" it should be noted that all of the upper level management got bonuses.

but lets not forget all the layoffs this year, and the fact that management has increased the daily work hours with no increase in pay or benefits.

I would also point out that a large part of the successful management of a company, particularly a large one, is managing the expectations of your employees as well as your customers.

I for one hope it turns into a full scale revolt because unlike many of you I am not sucking manwins ass in hopes of getting a peanut.

They are crooks plain and simple and whatever contributes to their demise is pretty much OK by me...Karma and all that ya know.
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I am sorry, but this is ridiculous. As someone who works for Manwin (MindGeek) and has been in the adult business for over 20 years I have to comment. I had meetings with them last summer where they told me that they were going to slightly cut back the budgets on Babes.com and that was going to impact my income. I wasn't happy about it. Did I come online and complain about it? Of course not. It was perfectly logical given the marketplace and I did what any sensible business person would do. I looked for additional work to supplement my income. Times are tough in most industries right now and especially in Adult. We all know that and still choose to work in it. We CHOOSE to.

This “employee” is a perfect example of the type of person I would never hire. They are a complainer and feel entitled. I am sure that the important people that Manwin wanted to keep got taken care of. That is called business. Bonuses are just that. Extra gifts for the most important people in the profit of the company. A company that is making less than projected should give everyone bonuses? I mean they are already paying you to work there, right? If this employee that wrote this letter is so unhappy and is qualified to make more money well then he should quit right? I mean it is a free country (well Canada) so I don't understand what the problem is.

If this employee makes a ton of money for Manwin and feels he is not getting what he deserves he should grow some balls and take it up with his managers. If it is a legitimate beef and they can’t afford to lose him they will step up and pay him more. It’s as simple as that. If you want a bonus then stand out. Do things above and beyond your job scope.

Now, I am sure that there are some people at MindGeek who do have legitimate complaints about work. It is a big company and these things happen. Based on the law of averages I am sure some assholes work there too. I hope this employee finds a way to step up his game, and prove to his employers that he deserves a bonus. Speaking for myself and my company, those are the only guys on my team who ever get one.

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"and having our breaks cut by 1/3 each day, which we need to refresh our minds and keep us sharp;"

good grief..
sounds like a real sweatshop
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This ?employee? is a perfect example of the type of person I would never hire. They are a complainer and feel entitled. I am sure that the important people that Manwin wanted to keep got taken care of. That is called business. Bonuses are just that. Extra gifts for the most important people in the profit of the company. A company that is making less than projected should give everyone bonuses? I mean they are already paying you to work there, right? If this employee that wrote this letter is so unhappy and is qualified to make more money well then he should quit right? I mean it is a free country (well Canada) so I don't understand what the problem is.
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going by how poorly written the letter is, it was a low-level employee who wrote it.
Or perhaps someone who doesn't speak English as a first language. Considering Manwin is global, there is a very good chance of that.
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"and having our breaks cut by 1/3 each day, which we need to refresh our minds and keep us sharp;"

good grief..
sounds like a real sweatshop
No kidding...lazy bitch, it sounds like...
Probably 3 "20 minute breaks" cut down to two...
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No kidding...lazy bitch, it sounds like...
Probably 3 "20 minute breaks" cut down to two...
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Or perhaps someone who doesn't speak English as a first language. Considering Manwin is global, there is a very good chance of that.
nevertheless, the letter was poorly written.

it doesn't matter who wrote it. the message they are trying to convey gets lost. the real message here is bonuses are bonuses regardless of who wrote that letter.
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Or perhaps someone who doesn't speak English as a first language. Considering Manwin is global, there is a very good chance of that.

you neglected to include all these posts in your admonishment


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Hi, can you edit this to make it readable and re-post it. The raw letter is crap and unintelligible.

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What part of "Bonus" does he not understand? oh and if this is a real letter I don't feel sorry for the employees at all anyhow.
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Hi. I didn't insult you so I don't see why you need to come at me like that. I merely said that the source material is poorly written and should be edited.
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Perhaps, the letter is just a bit poorly written.
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That's how I took it, but yeah, it wasn't very well written.
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This was probably treated as a last straw, triggering the letter. I'm almost certain it wasn't just because of the annual bonus(es)
Let's say it was the last straw. Why make bonuses and break time the key point in the whole letter? If there are bigger, underlying things, why not expose those?
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He is lucky he has a job in the first place and if he does not like working there he can just leave. I have worked for some companys in the past and we never once had a christmas bonus or even a thank you.

I call bullshit on this whole letter. If you dont like working for somebody you simply just leave and get another job unless of course you are so crap at your job nobody else will employ you.
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Hey.. I've received an anonymous letter from a Manwin employee too..

It reads:

"Deary Mike, I'm anonymous.. Manwin so bad.. You sew good.. I love your blog, all of us reads it.. Shit is unfair here.. everyting just like you seid.. You da greatest.. Manwin tis shit.."


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In China the bonus is mandatory. Called the 13th month or some bs.
So while funding the development of my stuff there, even though we haven't made 1 cent in revenue yet, i get to give bonuses.
They do a great job, but in my mind bonuses have always been tied to profits.

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Meanwhile someone has been grepping the email server for phrase hits. I hope that employee is fine and dandy in the new year
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In China the bonus is mandatory.
Did Manwin move to China?
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Old 12-23-2013, 06:03 PM   #39
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I find it offensive when an employee of the ass holes that did more than anything to kill this industry and shit in their own graves is complaining about tea breaks !! He did use the word "prattle" though so if Mindfuck are watching I think your mole is British
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Old 12-23-2013, 06:07 PM   #40
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at what point did we start giving a shit about Manwin employees?

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Old 12-23-2013, 06:13 PM   #41
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How is this any different than any other disgruntled employee's ranting working at a fortune 500 company?

There's always gonna be someone who is unhappy, especially when you have 1k+ employees.
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Old 12-23-2013, 06:36 PM   #42
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Did Manwin move to China?
Is that what you understood from what i wrote?


In fact they are moving their servers and corp structure to hong kong...as someone posted ;)

That won't hide anything though...even the pirate island is playing ball these days
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Old 12-23-2013, 06:43 PM   #43
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Let's say it was the last straw. Why make bonuses and break time the key point in the whole letter? If there are bigger, underlying things, why not expose those?
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Old 12-23-2013, 07:03 PM   #44
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Let's say it was the last straw. Why make bonuses and break time the key point in the whole letter? If there are bigger, underlying things, why not expose those?
Because the person is just an employee and not a partner sharing in the profits. They probably don't care too much if Manwin/Mindgeek will be around in 5 years. But that they told them at the very last minute that there will be no bonus is a big issue to them. The issue isn't just the lack of a bonus but also being told at the last minute there would not be one.
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Old 12-23-2013, 07:07 PM   #45
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Manwin employee?

Not really caring.
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Old 12-23-2013, 07:07 PM   #46
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Even worse is how he is saying how bad things are going but still expects the bonus.

Perhaps this letter says a bit more about some mindgeek employees than mindgeek itself.
Oh come now, Roald. Surely the number one adult company and the one with all the tubes and the traffic can't be in trouble or having problems. Surely they are just raking in the money. The tubes are making us all richer. The industry is better than ever. The people at the top are doing great! We aren't destroying ourselves. No, sir. Too many broke jealous losers here. If we all kissed ass more, maybe the industry would be in better shape, right?
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Because the person is just an employee and not a partner sharing in the profits. They probably don't care too much if Manwin/Mindgeek will be around in 5 years. But that they told them at the very last minute that there will be no bonus is a big issue to them. The issue isn't just the lack of a bonus but also being told at the last minute there would not be one.
if you don't want your paycheck tied to someone else's fortunes, then get off your ass and work for yourself. not smart or skilled enough to work for yourself? then shut the fuck up ;)

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Old 12-23-2013, 07:16 PM   #48
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Well that the writer has an employee mindset and talks like an employee only increases the odds of the letter being legitimate. Given the small tidbits about the layoffs, lack of a bonus, cutting of breaks, it''s a bit interesting. It suggests the company really is in trouble despite holding all that traffic.
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Old 12-23-2013, 07:20 PM   #49
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Well that the writer has an employee mindset and talks like an employee only increases the odds of the letter being legitimate. Given the small tidbits about the layoffs, lack of a bonus, cutting of breaks, it''s a bit interesting. It suggests the company really is in trouble despite holding all that traffic.
yea for sure. if they weren't in trouble, they wouldn't have changed ownership.

i just think its funny that the point of the thread is to feel bad for these lazy, half-ass employees of Manwin. that company has been a scourge on this industry for years. just because you are a lowly employee, it doesn't make you innocent.

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Old 12-23-2013, 07:23 PM   #50
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I am sure there are people lining up to replace them. A bonus is exactly that, a bonus.
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