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dezmondel · 11-02-2013, 09:55 AM

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Disney is no longer drawing it's movies, games are filled with sexy 3D characters who never give up a lousy nipple, most of the Saturday morning cartoons are now 3D... how is the adult industry? is it following suit?
what are some good examples of 3D erotic paysites?

thanx for your time
dezmondel

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Brent 3dSexCash · 11-02-2013, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by racagiale

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Disney is no longer drawing it's movies, games are filled with sexy 3D characters who never give up a lousy nipple, most of the Saturday morning cartoons are now 3D... how is the adult industry? is it following suit?
what are some good examples of 3D erotic paysites?

thanx for your time
dezmondel

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http://www.vstroker.com/videos/katietrailer.html

We did this one which is toonish but has had mass appeal. Also the guys at Affect3d who we work with are doing some great stuff. Honestly, I have not seen anything in the same ballpark at these two examples, as it is expensive to produce animated content.

dezmondel · 11-02-2013, 10:46 AM

that's a cute character... very toony :]

Affect3d is without a doubt one of the best production houses, and work like GF4Ever does take a bit of effort... but hardware is dirt cheap these days, and production techniques can be streamlined for great efficiency.

and if i may trouble you with one more question Jeff... what's a minute of decent quality content worth these days? and we're not talking GF4Ever, cos anything that good will sell itself.

thanx again for your time!

Brent 3dSexCash · 11-02-2013, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by racagiale

that's a cute character... very toony :]

Affect3d is without a doubt one of the best production houses, and work like GF4Ever does take a bit of effort... but hardware is dirt cheap these days, and production techniques can be streamlined for great efficiency.

and if i may trouble you with one more question Jeff... what's a minute of decent quality content worth these days? and we're not talking GF4Ever, cos anything that good will sell itself.

thanx again for your time!

We are in a unique situation where we really only need like 5-10 seconds of animation at a time as our system works by speeding up and slowing down a sex act. All these clips come together to create a Vstroker interactive video. We then sell the complete video for 9.95. We are also in a unique situation where our content cant reallly be stolen. You need the device for it to work.

What I have noticed is that you either have short high-quality clips that are used within a unique system (for example our interactive system) OR short quality clips which are produced to essentially scam people into buying a membership. The customer then has access to a "members area" that is nothing but low res animations which are garbage (you see this bait and switch all the time on tube sites). OR you go the affect3d route and spend a ton of time making full length animations and cross your fingers it will sell.

dezmondel · 11-02-2013, 12:01 PM

WOW... today's business of 3D erotic animation in the Western world has probably never been summed up in fewer words... this is really sad.

i promised to bug you only with 1 question, so feel free to ignore this one, but do webmasters care nothing for retention of members to their sites?

...there is probably no need to answer that question, cos it's self evident.

thanx for your time Jeff, and if there is anything i can do for you, plz don't hesitate to lemme know.

cheers
dezmondel

Seth Manson · 11-02-2013, 03:17 PM

that Loki guy was doing some stuff

Pseudonymous · 11-02-2013, 03:19 PM

I met alot of people at the phoenix forum show that are heavily involved in the 3d animation stuff. Not sure they have any presence here on GFY

Colmike9 · 11-02-2013, 03:35 PM

I can do anything that you need with 3d, real time or animated, with 16 years of experience (I'm 26) in 3d Studio, Maya, Cinema 4d, Poser, POV Ray, 3d Game Studio with C#, and I can draw women almost photo-realistically for concepts. I would just need to be on a full time salary for that kind of work since it's really time consuming..

dezmondel · 11-02-2013, 04:11 PM

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I would just need to be on a full time salary for that kind of work since it's really time consuming..

thanx for the offer Colmike, but since we're on the same page, the best we could hope for to work together, would be a collaboration on a given project.

any chance of seeing some of your work?
thanx m8t!

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Originally Posted by Pseudonymous

I met alot of people at the phoenix forum show that are heavily involved in the 3d animation stuff. Not sure they have any presence here on GFY

thanx for the tip Pseudonymous... do they have a portfolio? ...site?

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that Loki guy was doing some stuff

Loki is DA MAN! he got a lot of industry experience.... when i grow up... :]

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NaughtyRob · 11-02-2013, 04:52 PM

Check out this amazing new 3D website but its not THAT kind of 3D, its real people.
http://www.3DHotTv.com

NaughtyRob · 11-02-2013, 04:53 PM

Why the fuck are you in adult? You should be in Hollywood.

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Originally Posted by Colmike7

I can do anything that you need with 3d, real time or animated, with 16 years of experience (I'm 26) in 3d Studio, Maya, Cinema 4d, Poser, POV Ray, 3d Game Studio with C#, and I can draw women almost photo-realistically for concepts. I would just need to be on a full time salary for that kind of work since it's really time consuming..

Colmike9 · 11-02-2013, 05:17 PM

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Why the fuck are you in adult? You should be in Hollywood.

Working on it. A friend of mine did a lot of work on the hair effects with Monster U for a year and a half and I might be able to get in that way. I'm into shaders and physics simulations, but can do most anything.

Colmike9 · 11-02-2013, 05:20 PM

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thanx for the offer Colmike, but since we're on the same page, the best we could hope for to work together, would be a collaboration on a given project.

any chance of seeing some of your work?
thanx m8t!
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Sure, I'll have to do some digging since most of what I do these days is CAD with FIRST Robotics. (I won 4th in the nation by myself against teams of engineers with a 1200 part robot..)

Here's a random bw drawing, too:

dezmondel · 11-02-2013, 05:23 PM

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sweet looking site Rob, and even sweeter technology.

btw, is 3dhotv considering a 3D animation channel in the future?

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Here's a random bw drawing, too:

nice pic Mike... 3D got a long ways to go.

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bronco67 · 11-02-2013, 05:48 PM

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Sure, I'll have to do some digging since most of what I do these days is CAD with FIRST Robotics. (I won 4th in the nation by myself against teams of engineers with a 1200 part robot..)

Here's a random bw drawing, too:

Nice work Mike, good to see an actual artist who uses 3d tools also. I've been working on an adult graphic novel (just setup time for now) -- but I'll agree that it takes a long time, and most people probably don't know that. Also, the best stuff is usually not that cookie cutter Poser shit that's seen everywhere. I use Softimage and Modo.

When it comes that clip posted above, that look good and all -- but I don't see the point of doing something in animation that can be shot in real life -- cartoony look notwithstanding. My project is sci-fi and involves things that could never be done physically in camera.

Colmike9 · 11-02-2013, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

Nice work Mike, good to see an actual artist who uses 3d tools also. I've been working on an adult graphic novel (just setup time for now) -- but I'll agree that it takes a long time, and most people probably don't know that. Also, the best stuff is usually not that cookie cutter Poser shit that's seen everywhere. I use Softimage and Modo.

Definitely. I hate seeing Poser models or anything that is obviously cookie cutter/generic. When I have time, I like to do everything the long way from box modeling and rigging bones with IK to making detailed UVWs and all of the mapping and shaders that go with it.

dezmondel · 11-02-2013, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Colmike7

When I have time, I like to do everything the long way from box modeling and rigging bones with IK to making detailed UVWs and all of the mapping and shaders that go with it.

you lucky dog... in 3D it's always good to have more than just one skill.
if it ain't a secret, what would it cost to develop a custom sexy anime style character, bendable in every which way, and anatomically delicious? ...and how much time would such a project take?

thanx in adv.

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dezmondel · 11-02-2013, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

When it comes that clip posted above, that look good and all -- but I don't see the point of doing something in animation that can be shot in real life -- cartoony look notwithstanding. My project is sci-fi and involves things that could never be done physically in camera.

you are absolutely right bronco!

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madeofmoney · 11-02-2013, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by NaughtyRob

Why the fuck are you in adult? You should be in Hollywood.

Hollywood doesnt tolerate theft as much as adult.

Colmike9 · 11-02-2013, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by madeofmoney

Hollywood doesnt tolerate theft as much as adult.

Hope you're not calling me a thief, I do everything completely legit..

Colmike9 · 11-02-2013, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by racagiale

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you lucky dog... in 3D it's always good to have more than just one skill.
if it ain't a secret, what would it cost to develop a custom sexy anime style character, bendable in every which way, and anatomically delicious? ...and how much time would such a project take?

thanx in adv.

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That depends on all of the project details, timeframe, and if it's by the hour or job. Usually you can find decent models for cheaper on sites like Turbo Squid, too.

Ace_luffy · 11-02-2013, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Colmike7

Sure, I'll have to do some digging since most of what I do these days is CAD with FIRST Robotics. (I won 4th in the nation by myself against teams of engineers with a 1200 part robot..)

Here's a random bw drawing, too:

nice work.. love it

madeofmoney · 11-02-2013, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Colmike7

Hope you're not calling me a thief, I do everything completely legit..

Guilty conscience? Did I say you? Stupid fuck

Colmike9 · 11-02-2013, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by madeofmoney

Guilty conscience? Did I say you? Stupid fuck

I was just asking because he was replying to me..

dezmondel · 11-03-2013, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

... I'll agree that it takes a long time, and most people probably don't know that. Also, the best stuff is usually not that cookie cutter Poser shit that's seen everywhere. I use Softimage and Modo.

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Originally Posted by Colmike7

Definitely. I hate seeing Poser models or anything that is obviously cookie cutter/generic. When I have time, I like to do everything the long way from box modeling and rigging bones with IK to making detailed UVWs and all of the mapping and shaders that go with it.

...don't be so harsh on Poser fellas... it ain't the tool, it's how ya use it!
problem with Poser (and increasingly Daz Studio) is that most people who move stuff around and call it animation don't got an official education in animation.

Maya & the like is to create masterpieces and Poser/Daz is for mass production... simple as that.

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bronco67 · 11-03-2013, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by racagiale

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...don't be so harsh on Poser fellas... it ain't the tool, it's how ya use it!
problem with Poser (and increasingly Daz Studio) is that most people who move stuff around and call it animation don't got an official education in animation.

Maya & the like is to create masterpieces and Poser/Daz is for mass production... simple as that.

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Those clip sites, like that first link you gave...can artists really make money with that? I can do even better stuff that's on that site.

lyno · 11-03-2013, 10:21 AM

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Those clip sites, like that first link you gave...can artists really make money with that? I can do even better stuff that's on that site.

That flash got sold 2951 times on english DLSite and 18552 times on DLSite japan (if i got that right). $18.06 per sale with a 50/50 split (about)... do the math.

dezmondel · 11-03-2013, 10:27 AM

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well bronco, let us take this little number, landed in the top 3 for 2012 on the English DLsite and top 10 on the Japanese side.

but don't let that 944 downloads fool you... that's only $13,200 US... the real number would be on the Japanese side... 7200 dls... roughly $100,800 US big fu^&ing ones... and kindly keep in mind that DLsite is not the only place sense Umemaro sells his trinkets.

if you can do better than this, you might wanna consider tapping DLsite... oh, and maybe you can take me on as an apprentice :]

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dezmondel · 11-03-2013, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by lyno

That flash got sold 2951 times on english DLSite and 18552 times on DLSite japan (if i got that right). $18.06 per sale with a 50/50 split (about)... do the math.

they go about 40/60... and that piece made about $193,500 US O.o

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Colmike9 · 11-03-2013, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by racagiale

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...don't be so harsh on Poser fellas... it ain't the tool, it's how ya use it!
problem with Poser (and increasingly Daz Studio) is that most people who move stuff around and call it animation don't got an official education in animation.

Maya & the like is to create masterpieces and Poser/Daz is for mass production... simple as that.

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There's just something about Poser that makes the models look very generic, but I haven't used it in a few years so it might be better now. I like it for things that would replace sprites like in an architectural render or something, but not something that showcases the model.

bronco67 · 11-03-2013, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Colmike7

There's just something about Poser that makes the models look very generic, but I haven't used it in a few years so it might be better now. I like it for things that would replace sprites like in an architectural render or something, but not something that showcases the model.

The thing is, Poser is so easy to use, it allows an accessibility to the craft that Hollywood software doesn't allow without years of expertise. So that cookie cutter look comes mostly from "artists" who don't know how to put some stank on their work -- and also the fact they all use the same few models over and over. There are some Poser artists who can do great things with the software, but 90% of what's out there(especially the porn) is run of the mill garbage, with no individual flair.

Hentaikid · 11-03-2013, 03:57 PM

Japan has a market and everyone else pirates their stuff, basically.

Artists like Umemaro release a high quality short movie or two a year, get their sales from Japan on sites like DLsite and others and don't do much more online stuff.

Any webmaster here on GFY will expect to pay live action prices for content, in bulk, so they probably won't even look at single 10-15 minute clips if that's all you have. The ones who know the niche are probably just going to yoink the Japanese stuff since they know they won't be persecuted. Japan is really bad at online stuff.

So some people make stuff in house like those animations for the vstroker, but note that it's gamified, related to a product, not just a standalone video.

Your stuff is pretty nice racagiale, that giant animation is nicely sensual, but that kinda detail takes a long time to do. And porn nowadays is all about niche and volume.

Try to build your own audience, your own fandom, because the adult industry isn't going to help much.

dezmondel · 11-03-2013, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Colmike7

There's just something about Poser that makes the models look very generic, but I haven't used it in a few years so it might be better now. I like it for things that would replace sprites like in an architectural render or something, but not something that showcases the model.

this is true Mike, hence my question about the cost of a custom model, especially since it's no small task.

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Originally Posted by bronco67

...There are some Poser artists who can do great things with the software, but 90% of what's out there(especially the porn) is run of the mill garbage, with no individual flair.

that sounds about right bronco...

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Originally Posted by Hentaikid

... And porn nowadays is all about niche and volume.

Try to build your own audience, your own fandom, because the adult industry isn't going to help much.

may your words hold as much truth as they hold wisdom Hentaikid...
the gamble at the moment is niche and volume.

but if that don't work out, your second idea is a strong plan B!

btw, any idea how much is "live action prices for content"? ...say 5 min videos...

thanx for your help!

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cybermike · 11-03-2013, 05:03 PM

nice thread.. wish I knew how to make more 3d sales!

11-03-2013, 07:04 PM

3D is the present and the future. Two main types, fantastical and realistic. I'm working at the epicenter, Akihabara, Tokyo, Japan. HentaiKid, Mike, bronco, raca... If you guys live or visit around here let me know. We shoot real Japanese girls but 3D is my favorite topic to discuss. Maybe we can find a way to collaborate. Keep up the great work!

dezmondel · 11-03-2013, 09:53 PM

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nice thread.. wish I knew how to make more 3d sales!

good looking sites you got there Mike.
would a few hi-end animations on your landing page help with sales?

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dezmondel · 11-03-2013, 10:14 PM

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Maybe we can find a way to collaborate. Keep up the great work!

mighty fine offer Rat King... we do have a small presence on DLsite, and an Eastern collaboration would be welcomed any day of the week.

perhaps we can talk details about some custom audio: dezmondel at gmail

thanx for the encouraging words!
dezmondel

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Pseudonymous · 11-03-2013, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by racagiale

thanx for the tip Pseudonymous... do they have a portfolio? ...site?

Sadly i do not remember any of them as its far from the area of the industry I am in but i figured i would mention it incase you were still interested in meeting people in that side of things come March/April

dezmondel · 11-04-2013, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pseudonymous

Sadly i do not remember any of them as its far from the area of the industry I am in but i figured i would mention it incase you were still interested in meeting people in that side of things come March/April

...thanx again for the tip Pseudonymous.

cheers!

bronco67 · 11-11-2013, 11:02 AM

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mighty fine offer Rat King... we do have a small presence on DLsite, and an Eastern collaboration would be welcomed any day of the week.

perhaps we can talk details about some custom audio: dezmondel at gmail

thanx for the encouraging words!
dezmondel

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So is that presence on DLSite making you any good money? I was really thinking about this stuff ever since you mentioned it a few days ago. I have an innate ability to make sexy 3d girls, my imagination is pretty sick and I think I have an eye for what makes something appealing and sexy. I'm making a graphic novel, but my idea is to do an "offshoot" series of animation clips to post on DLSite. I think I can crank out some nice stuff in a couple of weeks -- maybe about 20 minutes worth(because its really a lot of repetitive motion).

What if I could make something that rivals Unemaro's work?

My fear is just having it all downloaded and torrented all over the internet. Why isn't this stuff streaming, in stead of straight download?

dezmondel · 11-15-2013, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

So is that presence on DLSite making you any good money? I was really thinking about this stuff ever since you mentioned it a few days ago....

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judging by the success of some circles, the potential to make some money is there.
but as "foreigners" we do have to play to their taste and style: lighting, characters, subject matter, and an incredible attention to details!
Japanese culture is very detail oriented--from a tea ceremony to warping a gift, a certain level of perfection is always present... and their 3D animations are no different, hence a level of quality the rest of the world would have a hard time coughing up.

if you can match Umemaro's level of quality, you might be golden.
i'd sure love to see some of your work, and maybe collaborate on a few projects for the East... at the very least i could help you avoid some of the pitfalls i had to crawl out of.

as for the pirates... we're fucked! it seems there is nothing anybody can do about that.
soon as a product is released on the market some punks buy it and give it away for free just to sell a few banner adds... or to be loved.

DLsite offers some kind of digital copy protection, but we all know there is no lock that can't be picked online.

a combination of selling stuff on DLsite and your own paysite might alleviate this problem, because all the free copies become highly targeted advertisements for your paysite, and all the pirates become your little bitches advertising your site for free... well, maybe not exactly free, but at least you wouldn't have to pay for advertising.

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bronco67 · 11-15-2013, 01:14 PM

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judging by the success of some circles, the potential to make some money is there.
but as "foreigners" we do have to play to their taste and style: lighting, characters, subject matter, and an incredible attention to details!
Japanese culture is very detail oriented--from a tea ceremony to warping a gift, a certain level of perfection is always present... and their 3D animations are no different, hence a level of quality the rest of the world would have a hard time coughing up.

if you can match Umemaro's level of quality, you might be golden.
i'd sure love to see some of your work, and maybe collaborate on a few projects for the East... at the very least i could help you avoid some of the pitfalls i had to crawl out of.

as for the pirates... we're fucked! it seems there is nothing anybody can do about that.
soon as a product is released on the market some punks buy it and give it away for free just to sell a few banner adds... or to be loved.

DLsite offers some kind of digital copy protection, but we all know there is no lock that can't be picked online.

a combination of selling stuff on DLsite and your own paysite might alleviate this problem, because all the free copies become highly targeted advertisements for your paysite, and all the pirates become your little bitches advertising your site for free... well, maybe not exactly free, but at least you wouldn't have to pay for advertising.

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Thanks. I got sidetracked with another animation job, but I want to re-visit this when I have a couple weeks of downtime. I'm very detail oriented -- that's what my clients love about my work(medical animation).

I don't have any erotic work to show -- but I have my main character setup in progress. Once I'm wrapped with that, making environments and other props will be next. I'll try to show some stuff here.

dezmondel · 11-15-2013, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

I don't have any erotic work to show -- but I have my main character setup in progress. Once I'm wrapped with that, making environments and other props will be next. I'll try to show some stuff here.

you welcome bronco!
looking forward to your work, and if you wish to talk details... dezmondel at gmail.

cheers!

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11-02-2013, 09:55 AM	#1
dezmondel 3D animator Industry Role: Join Date: May 2012 Location: emerald city Posts: 141	demand for 3D animation . Disney is no longer drawing it's movies, games are filled with sexy 3D characters who never give up a lousy nipple, most of the Saturday morning cartoons are now 3D... how is the adult industry? is it following suit? what are some good examples of 3D erotic paysites? thanx for your time dezmondel . __________________ ♠ Stone-Sorceress.com ♠ On Patreon ♠

11-02-2013, 10:46 AM	#3
dezmondel 3D animator Industry Role: Join Date: May 2012 Location: emerald city Posts: 141	that's a cute character... very toony :] Affect3d is without a doubt one of the best production houses, and work like GF4Ever does take a bit of effort... but hardware is dirt cheap these days, and production techniques can be streamlined for great efficiency. and if i may trouble you with one more question Jeff... what's a minute of decent quality content worth these days? and we're not talking GF4Ever, cos anything that good will sell itself. thanx again for your time! __________________ ♠ Stone-Sorceress.com ♠ On Patreon ♠

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dezmondel 3D animator Industry Role: Join Date: May 2012 Location: emerald city Posts: 141	WOW... today's business of 3D erotic animation in the Western world has probably never been summed up in fewer words... this is really sad. i promised to bug you only with 1 question, so feel free to ignore this one, but do webmasters care nothing for retention of members to their sites? ...there is probably no need to answer that question, cos it's self evident. thanx for your time Jeff, and if there is anything i can do for you, plz don't hesitate to lemme know. cheers dezmondel __________________ ♠ Stone-Sorceress.com ♠ On Patreon ♠

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11-03-2013, 10:27 AM	#28
dezmondel 3D animator Industry Role: Join Date: May 2012 Location: emerald city Posts: 141	. well bronco, let us take this little number, landed in the top 3 for 2012 on the English DLsite and top 10 on the Japanese side. but don't let that 944 downloads fool you... that's only $13,200 US... the real number would be on the Japanese side... 7200 dls... roughly $100,800 US big fu^&ing ones... and kindly keep in mind that DLsite is not the only place sense Umemaro sells his trinkets. if you can do better than this, you might wanna consider tapping DLsite... oh, and maybe you can take me on as an apprentice :] . __________________ ♠ Stone-Sorceress.com ♠ On Patreon ♠

11-03-2013, 03:57 PM	#32
Hentaikid Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 1,249	Japan has a market and everyone else pirates their stuff, basically. Artists like Umemaro release a high quality short movie or two a year, get their sales from Japan on sites like DLsite and others and don't do much more online stuff. Any webmaster here on GFY will expect to pay live action prices for content, in bulk, so they probably won't even look at single 10-15 minute clips if that's all you have. The ones who know the niche are probably just going to yoink the Japanese stuff since they know they won't be persecuted. Japan is really bad at online stuff. So some people make stuff in house like those animations for the vstroker, but note that it's gamified, related to a product, not just a standalone video. Your stuff is pretty nice racagiale, that giant animation is nicely sensual, but that kinda detail takes a long time to do. And porn nowadays is all about niche and volume. Try to build your own audience, your own fandom, because the adult industry isn't going to help much.

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11-03-2013, 07:04 PM	#35
Rat King Guest Posts: n/a	3D is the present and the future. Two main types, fantastical and realistic. I'm working at the epicenter, Akihabara, Tokyo, Japan. HentaiKid, Mike, bronco, raca... If you guys live or visit around here let me know. We shoot real Japanese girls but 3D is my favorite topic to discuss. Maybe we can find a way to collaborate. Keep up the great work! Last edited by Rat King; 11-03-2013 at 07:06 PM..