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When they voted down a gun background check that was supported by 90% of the public, do you think they did it because they love guns so much, or they like the NRA's big checks? |
People voted in the democrats in 2006 and Barry in 2008 because of the wars we were in and the financial mess, yet here we are, still have a lot of troops in the middle east, sending more drones than ever and looking for another fight to continue what Bush started! Unemployment is still at a lofty high, people are underemployed, food stamps are at 400% of what they were 5 years ago, we're sending guns to Mexican drug lords, the government is spying on it's citizens, the IRS is being used to bully conservative groups, even the press is getting spied on. And after 4 years of Barry not passing a budget, you pissy little whiners are upset because the GOP wants to make some changes? REALLY?
All this and Los Angeles County spends over 650 million dollars a year on welfare to illegal aliens. Blame game isn't working anymore, be you democrat or GOP, this is fucked up and blaming it on the other side is BS, unless you are the President I guess. Reagan never said that, he was more the Buck Stopped here kinda guy |
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No taxation without representation sounds about right these days. "ya call this representation?" |
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He changed EVERYTHING to bow down to the medical, big pharma, and insurance company lobbyists. No Republicans voted for ObamaCare so you are greatly misinformed if you think he changed it for them. Matter of face nobody (dem or repub) even knew what was IN the bill when they were forced to vote for it. Nancy Pelosi:"We have to vote for it to know what's in it" And finally...when they DID get it passed in the Senate, they used a little bit of trickery to null and void Senator Scott Brown's vote AGAINST it. It would not, and should not have passed on a vote in the Senate even. Some of you need to really do some reading and listen to The President's own voice during the campaign about "transparency" and airing the entire writing of the health bill on CSPAN so the American people would be able to follow it every step of the way. He lied. Just like a corrupt lifetime politician does (Republicans AND Democrats) |
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crockett, you have no idea how normal people think and feel. Just like Washington D.C. doesn't know. And just like the elite smarmy, arrogant pricks on MSNBC don't know. They (and you) live in a bubble. |
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I think Obama fucked on Syria. He drew a "line in the sand". You should never do that. Once that line is drawn and then crossed, it forces you into an action you don't want to take and makes you look like an ass when you retreat. |
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Certainly not from the '60s on. |
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It's at 7.3%, compared to a high of 10%. Seems to becoming down. Yet you bitch that we aren't counting it right or something. Quote:
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I think this is great - The Republicans will come out looking horrible after this. They already know this bill will fail, and even if it does pass it will be vetoed, and the Republicans will left holding a bag of shit - they will either have to retreat, or they will be the cause of the government shutting down. Either way, this will be nothing short of massive failure for the Republican party. |
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I just hate people that try to twist reality into a handful of bullet points that are completely misleading. At this point that's all Vendzilla does. |
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Reagan was the great communicator, he worked to end the cold war, Barry it seems is trying to get it started agaion Barry is giving weapons to all sorts of other countries http://news.firedoglake.com/2013/09/...syrian-rebels/ The president, citing his authority under the Arms Export Control Act, announced today that he would ?waive the prohibitions in sections 40 and 40A of the AECA related to such a transaction.? Those two sections prohibit sending weaponry to countries described in section 40(d): ?The prohibitions contained in this section apply with respect to a country if the Secretary of State determines that the government of that country has repeatedly provided support for acts of international terrorism,? Congress stated in the Arms Control Export Act. The rebels are linked to Al-Qaeda, so I guess the US is giving arms to the Al-Qaeda, thanx Barry, fucking asshole |
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Democratic Sen. Robert Byrd was also known as Grand Kleagle Byrd. The ex-Klansman later filibustered the landmark 1964 Civil Rights Act ? supported by a majority of those ?mean-spirited? Republicans ? for more than 14 hours. He also opposed the nominations of the Supreme Court?s two black justices, liberal Thurgood Marshall and conservative Clarence Thomas. In fact, the ex-Klansman had the gall to accuse Justice Thomas of ?injecting racism? into the Senate hearings. http://capitalismmagazine.com/2001/0...d-ex-klansman/ |
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When Michelle Malkin is on, it's even funnier. She's a cunty shrew that always has a stank face on. http://i.imgur.com/Vo8B9Uj.jpg |
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I think we should throw them all out and start over.
Republican or Democrat dosnt matter this country is fucked up. gotoquiz.com/republican_or_democrat_1 |
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Gee thanks Obama.. Guess he should of been a dictator so he'd be able to tell everyone what to do.. |
I think Obama care should be the law just to teach the idiots a lesson when they have to buy heath insurance and show proof on their tax return:) That will be a great day 8-10 grand a year for a policy through an exchange.
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Every once in a while the things that benefit THEM just happen to coincide with benefiting a portion of the American people. Just as ObamaCare is bending over backwards and handing the Democrats moneymen of the Insurance, Medical, and Pharma corporations THE biggest customer base that they could ever have dreamed of...all with NO lowering of prices for their services... I also know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Republicans opposing it are doing so on behalf of their own money men. But...having said that, the people who elected those Republicans did so on the promise that they would stop ObamaCare. So in this instance...as crooked Republicans line their pockets...it just so happens that it happily coincided with the "will of the people". Do I think any of those Republicans actually give a shit about you or me? HELL NO. Do I think that Obama or any of the Democrats actually give a shit about you or me? HELL NO. It was a party line vote. Not one Senator or Congressman thinking for themselves. They are ALL just doing the bidding of the people lining their greedy pockets. You better be glad that I'm not President Robbie. We would have "Robbie Care" being shoved down your throat just like ObamaCare. And whoever paid me and made sure that me and my family are set for life....would get whatever they wanted too. We should vote them all out. And after this...one term and DONE for everyone. |
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Once again you have been misinformed. |
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So because I think that ObamaCare does not address the fact that we are overcharged for medical care in the U.S. and instead is a nice big gift to the Insurance, Medical, and Big Pharma corporations...then I "lick gop ass" I'm sorry...I forgot the rule of the Democrat Party: There is no tolerance for anyone who disagrees. I guess you should also say that the Democrat Senate "licks gop ass" too since they gave themselves a subsidy to offset ObamaCare (and also to their families and their hundreds of staff members). And I guess you could say that Pres. Obama "licks gop ass" since he put a delay on Big Business for ObamaCare...but NOT for us citizens. Or the Unions...I guess they "lick gop ass" since they are trying to get exempted as well. I also guess that Dem. Harry Reid and Max Baucus "lick gop ass" because they were quoted saying that the implementation of ObamaCare is a "train wreck". You should really remove your political blinders and stop following the Pres. like he's your girlfriend. He's nothing more than a crooked lifetime politician who is now filthy rich beyond anything that you or I will ever know. |
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Who is it that is paying Obama off and making him set for life? Now there's a scandal that would have some teeth, to bad it doesnt exist. |
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I'm for FREEDOM. That's all. As much freedom as I can possibly get. And the less that other people are telling me how to run my life...the better. Again though...none of you sheeples are paying attention to what these politicians are doing to you. You're too busy playing "republican" vs. "democrat" And why aren't YOU addressing what I brought up about the House and Senate giving themselves a nice subsidy (at taxpayer expense of course) to supplement their "ObamaCare" Neither you or I get that. And what about the Reid and Bacus quote? Jesus...you guys are so fucking lame. |
most socialists annoy me. socialists of obama believe they are always right, they lie, cheat, steal, interfere... murder. the world is waiting for the new republican, a more left leaning republican, and it may not happen for another eight years.
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And my opinion, Obamacare as it is will fail badly. I see it in my own business. We have always offered health insurance. The company pays 70% of the cost, which by todays standards is more than most companies pay. Yet, only 30% of our employees take it. The family plan is $1400 a month. We pay $840 of that cost, leaving the employee to pay $560. Average weekly take home for factory jobs is $400 a week after taxes and ssn. You can do the math and see the problem. And our insurance isn't very good anymore. $1000 deductible, copay...$20 drug card. I think people realize that it's easier to just not get sick. And if they have to go to the doctor they pay cash or work out a payment schedule. Insurance companies aren't dumb, they know the statistics, and those are that the large majority of workers will never need serious medical attention. In the last 10 years on the job our numbers support that. I can think offhand of 2, a heart attack and a kidney issue. Out of hundreds of people. |
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You want them to address the prices of insurance, but do you think for even one nano second, that republicans would go along with that? They would cry about the so called free market and that the govt shouldn't fix prices because that's not the cronyism that they all love so much. I'm sure once things go live the prices will be addressed if its a problem. The simple fact is, if prices go up the people won't pay it. So far what I've seen is that prices will go down. The big scary scary about high prices is coming from the right not the experts. Lastly, you keep excusing what the right is doing with the obstructionism as A Ok, because they were voted into office to do away with Obamacare. Well that's fine and dandy, but what about everything else they have blocked? This has been one of if not the least productive congresses this country has ever had. I'm sorry but you can't just excuse that away because thy hate Americans heaving access to health insurance. Also just as you say these Republicans were all voted into office to get rid of Health care for the tax payers of this country, well Obama was voted in partly on the promise of providing that health care system. |
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I'm not sure how close Obamacare ended up being to the Healthcare system that is in MA, but I can tell you as some one that is living in MA the plan the state offers is way better and about 1/4 the cost of what I'm paying now with Humana. When I first moved up here I had to go on the state system before I got my own insurance. I was paying around $60/month and had everything I have now, except dental. With my own insurance, I'm over $300/month.. I'd go back to the states insurance in a heart beat if they would let me. It was actually pretty good. With your example, of your factory workers not taking the insurance as the majority, well that's because $400/week take home is not very much money. Paying insurance or not paying it, that's just not a lot to live on at today's prices. |
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I am 40 now, and I have only been in the hospital for anything a couple of times in all of these years. The reason for being there could have been easily enough avoiding by myself making better life choices at the time. That said, those ER visits cost me around $5000.00 which at the time I just paid out of pocket. I had an out patience procedure and that was in the same ballpark. If you can save and have some money, then it's a hardship, but not catastrophic by any means. As I get older, you have a risk of having something happen where you are hospitalized for a week or more depending on the condition. You run the risk of having to take pills for some illness or issue even. I can tell you that my allergy medicine savings alone pay for my healthcare coverage for the month. While I do not argue that their prices are off the hook. Without insurance, it would cost me a hell of a lot more that coverage alone. |
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:thumbsup Obamacare is a version 1.0 of universal healthcare in this country. It's not going to be perfect, especially when you have the U.S. government involved. They should have just expanded the coverage that military/congressmen have and there you go. Or they could have regulated that insurance companies need to use 90% of their premiums for claims and members. Stopping the insane spending on advertising (Geico), golden parachutes for execs, and whatever else the for-profit healthcare industry is wasting their insurers money on. |
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