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Robbie 09-12-2013 07:09 PM

Here in Vegas they do free testing at LBGT.

I've never done that because we have a standing order from our personal physician at Lab Corp. Cost is $59

But IF you went for the free testing here...most days of the month they do the "2 weeks" to get the results. But one day a month they do the rapid hiv test:

September 19 — 10:30 a.m. - 12:30 p.m., 1:30 p.m. - 5 p.m. (subject to change)
Gay and Lesbian Center of Southern Nevada
Free Rapid HIV Testing / STD Screenings / Hepatitis A & B Vaccines
401 S. Maryland Pkwy.
Las Vegas, NV 89101
Call 733-9800 for more information.


There's also what looks to be a Boxing gym that does it for free all month long:

1 p.m. - 5 p.m.
Richard Steele Boxing
Free Rapid HIV Testing / STD Screening
2475 W. Cheyenne Ave.
North Las Vegas, NV 89032
Call 638-1308 for more information.

That's just 2 of the ones I found here by googling.

I prefer to use Lab Corp (the same company that does blood work nationwide every time any of you go to the doctor and need blood tests done).

We found out how much the price was jacked up by AIM and TTS in the past when my doctor sent me there to get blood drawn. I was telling the nurse what we did for a living and said that Claudia Marie had to test every month and it was $130 PLUS the fee for whomever did the draw.

The people at Lab Corp were shocked. They told me we were getting screwed hard and showed me the cost of the test. Told me to just go to my doctor and get an order for it.

So we did. :)

I never plan on having CM test with one of those "industry" testing places again. I have no desire to get ripped off and/or have her medical records floating around for everyone to see.

RevSand 09-12-2013 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 19797647)
And he makes a big deal about getting free testing. Somebody should ask him what kind of tests he is getting for free. And what good is free if it takes 2 weeks to get back?


This business is falling apart at the seems.



Just Dave

The tests he is promising are from AHF.. They have promised him those and free medical exam for talent. :2 cents:

Can you say jumping from pot into the fire?

Profits of Doom 09-12-2013 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 19797647)
Brad is good people.


OHHH man!! That Crack head Black!! This guy is on another level of stupidity.


He has a few good ideas, but nobody will ever get past the his attacks on everyone in the adult biz.


And he makes a big deal about getting free testing. Somebody should ask him what kind of tests he is getting for free. And what good is free if it takes 2 weeks to get back?


This business is falling apart at the seems.



Just Dave

Holy shit, if that picture above is what Rob looks like now he needs to be tested himself. I dealt with Rob a lot back in 2000 when he was running his pro wrestling company, XPW, and he was nowhere near that skinny. What happened to him?

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 09-12-2013 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RevSand (Post 19797707)

The tests he is promising are from AHF.. They have promised him those and free medical exam for talent. :2 cents:

Can you say jumping from pot into the fire?

Hmmm... :smokin

http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lj...6unmo1_500.jpg

If the industry is forced to go condom only, and continues with testing (as I feel it should), then why not partner up with AHF as a educational/safe-sex partner if they are willing to make testing more affordable for performers?

Then the adult trade organization representing the organization could serve the industry better as an independent industry watchdog (if we co-pay for testing, a small % could go to the industry watchdog group to underwrite education and other efforts within the industry).

Of course, that is dependent upon AHF being open to working with us in earnest towards a mutual goal of safe and healthy adult entertainment.

AHF can focus on what they do best, the safe, while we focus on what we do best, the sex.

Win-Win-Win, war is over (if you want it)... :)

:stoned

ADG

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 09-12-2013 09:44 PM

Want to Know What Mainstream USA Thinks About this Clusterfuck?
 
Major National News Coverage:

Quote:

HIV Outbreak Shuts Down Porn Industry

Three/Four adult film performers have tested positive for HIV since August, prompting California’s pornographic video producers to temporarily cease production, and spurring further calls from AIDS advocates to make condoms mandatory in adult films.

What do you think?
Here is what America had to say:

http://o.onionstatic.com/images/10/10318/3x4/148.jpg
Quote:

“I hope they come back soon, because I’m almost completely caught up on porn.”

Grover Platt –
Candy Dipper
http://o.onionstatic.com/images/10/1...4/148.jpg?0612
Quote:

“Condoms should absolutely be mandatory. Also ball gags.”

Thomas Bogart –
Chandelier Maker
http://o.onionstatic.com/images/10/10319/3x4/148.jpg
Quote:

“I just hope those cock-starved coeds are able to find the sustenance they need.”

Beth Whittier –
Turbine Assembler
Remember, watch what you say, because America is watching...(porn) :warning :upsidedow

:stoned

ADG

KellyPierce 09-13-2013 09:51 AM

Can I just say it annoys me trans performers get lumped in with Gay Performers.

We test just as hard as the mainstream industry and we use CONDOMS almost every time!

NONE.. NOT ONE US Transsexual PERFORMER has EVER BEEN ON the list!!

So why you guys point your fingers at US I have no clue!

It's always been the gay for pay or female actresses that turn up with it.

Not to mention SEX IN GENERAL IS NEVER going to be 100% safe! If you believe that you are delusional!

There are agencies that escort their girls out to the highest bidder and the client will fuck them raw! To deny that again delusional!

Everyone loves to point fingers, but doesn't point fingers at their own unsafe way of doing things!

Porn perfomers have personal lives and a shit load escort..28 days to me is too long of time!

Every 15 days should be put in place!

The moratorium was not long enough the first time making us look horrendous to the mainstream media!

Then on top of it you had producers in Arizona and other places not following the moratorium convincing performers to come their way to shoot!

It needs to be a group effort to keep our asses off the chopping block! Instead of working apart we should work together. The gay industry should be HELD to the SAME standards! It should be UNIVERSAL!

I personally work only with my husband or if we do threesomes I google the shit out of the performers name so I know who and what SHE is about.

I think performers should have to sign a contract or admit to the company/performer she is working with that they escort.

Escorts can complain all they want, but when you are having sex with 1 to 10 different guys daily your chance of infection SIGNIFICANTLY goes up!

FYI though OUR STANDARDS OF TESTING IN THE US TRANSSEXUAL NICHE is the SAME AS YOURS and we almost ALWAYS USE A CONDOM.. Companies like GROOBY expect you to use a condom.

So why we get mixed into the gay side I WILL NEVER know besides the fact we both have the same downstairs!

FYI GAY MEN ARE NOT ATTRACTED TO TRANSSEXUALS! WHY?? Because they look like women! They have tits!

They want MEN like many of the men posting in this thread.

If we want change!!

Then we as an industry as a WHOLE need to come together!

None of this straight vs gay vs trans vs crossover crap

We should all have the same standard of testing!

I know some of the companies in the gay niche do condom only no testing..that should be illegal and abolished!

As well when they call a moratorium we all halt in every state! In case a traveling performer so happens to have it!

Otherwise we are going to get our asses handed to use every single time!

TurboAngel 09-13-2013 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19796048)

But I'm not a nice guy like Dan is. .


I disagree with you I met you both and Dan isn't a nice guy.


:2 cents:

Grapesoda 09-13-2013 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marcop (Post 19797541)
Is this a reference to the male talent whose name is the same as the name of one of the world's major religions?

yes... :thumbsup

Grapesoda 09-13-2013 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KellyPierce (Post 19798549)
Can I just say it annoys me trans performers get lumped in with Gay Performers.

We test just as hard as the mainstream industry and we use CONDOMS almost every time!

NONE.. NOT ONE US Transsexual PERFORMER has EVER BEEN ON the list!!

So why you guys point your fingers at US I have no clue!

It's always been the gay for pay or female actresses that turn up with it.

Not to mention SEX IN GENERAL IS NEVER going to be 100% safe! If you believe that you are delusional!

There are agencies that escort their girls out to the highest bidder and the client will fuck them raw! To deny that again delusional!

Everyone loves to point fingers, but doesn't point fingers at their own unsafe way of doing things!

Porn perfomers have personal lives and a shit load escort..28 days to me is too long of time!

Every 15 days should be put in place!

The moratorium was not long enough the first time making us look horrendous to the mainstream media!

Then on top of it you had producers in Arizona and other places not following the moratorium convincing performers to come their way to shoot!

It needs to be a group effort to keep our asses off the chopping block! Instead of working apart we should work together. The gay industry should be HELD to the SAME standards! It should be UNIVERSAL!

I personally work only with my husband or if we do threesomes I google the shit out of the performers name so I know who and what SHE is about.

I think performers should have to sign a contract or admit to the company/performer she is working with that they escort.

Escorts can complain all they want, but when you are having sex with 1 to 10 different guys daily your chance of infection SIGNIFICANTLY goes up!

FYI though OUR STANDARDS OF TESTING IN THE US TRANSSEXUAL NICHE is the SAME AS YOURS and we almost ALWAYS USE A CONDOM.. Companies like GROOBY expect you to use a condom.

So why we get mixed into the gay side I WILL NEVER know besides the fact we both have the same downstairs!

FYI GAY MEN ARE NOT ATTRACTED TO TRANSSEXUALS! WHY?? Because they look like women! They have tits!

They want MEN like many of the men posting in this thread.

If we want change!!

Then we as an industry as a WHOLE need to come together!

None of this straight vs gay vs trans vs crossover crap

We should all have the same standard of testing!

I know some of the companies in the gay niche do condom only no testing..that should be illegal and abolished!

As well when they call a moratorium we all halt in every state! In case a traveling performer so happens to have it!

Otherwise we are going to get our asses handed to use every single time!

no one here is against you in any way... we are all just in the business together doing the best we can... when I'm told that a male performer is engaged in risky behavior I don't use them.. I don't need issues on set... so I bring the 'mentioned boy' and shazzam... the model refuses to work with that boy due to his activities and suddenly I have an issue on set... yes bring the industries together ... no problem however don't punish the str8 side for gay side issues... the moratorium was fine the first time.. the 3rd woman is positive from her personal life and did NOT get back into the industry... in fact word is she is, or was, fuck buddies with the other 2 positives off camera in AZ in her personal life... and I should we punished/targeted for that?

btw I don't see hiv as a gay/tranny issue.... I see hiv as an ANAL issue

KellyPierce 09-13-2013 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19798611)
no one here is against you in any way... we are all just in the business together doing the best we can... when I'm told that a male performer is engaged in risky behavior I don't use them.. I don't need issues on set... so I bring the 'mentioned boy' and shazzam... the model refuses to work with that boy dues to his activities and suddenly I have an issue on set... yes bring the industries together ... no problem however don't punish the str8 side for gay side issues...

Have you seen Cameron Bay's wrap sheet?

Her drug use?

Look at the the real porn wiki leaks

She could of easily picked it up being irresponsible.

Not just from Rod Daily.

She escorts, does glory hole scenes with untested individuals the list goes on

And I am well aware of the plague that is there on "crossover"

It just annoys me when transsexual performers are mixed in with the gay industry.

Rod Daily was honest and he didn't throw the industry under the bus like Miss Cameron did in her new huff post article.

She is an adult performer she should take accountability for her actions.

Notice she mentioned nothing in the article of her hardcore drug use and/or personal life.

She kept it focused on she was the victim and if she knew what knows now she'd of always demanded a condom.

Eluding to the mainstream it's the porn industry.

Then she says she still wants to do solo scenes and that she regrets being the poster child because now no partners will work with her. I was shocked by that as if she was saying she'd still perform on the down low.

It's a doozey

http://thereal*************.com/huff...embarrassment/

Grapesoda 09-13-2013 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KellyPierce (Post 19798617)
Have you seen Cameron Bay's wrap sheet?

Her drug use?

Look at the the real porn wiki leaks

She could of easily picked it up being irresponsible.

Not just from Rod Daily.

She escorts, does glory hole scenes with untested individuals the list goes on

And I am well aware of the plague that is there on "crossover"

It just annoys me when transsexual performers are mixed in with the gay industry.

look nothing against you... yes all of those knuckleheads are problematic and should not be in the biz..


I get annoyed when AHF make up total fabrications and release them as fact and the fucktards here at GFY, that AREN'T even in the biz, run with them like it's true and the NBC picks it up like it's true..

no producers I know will shoot her

Robbie 09-13-2013 10:58 AM

Aaaah, so now the poor "victim" Cameron Bay is blaming it all on the porn industry.

How predictable. Maybe ADG will rush over to give even more money to her "fund". :(

Oh wait...there will be no need for that. The Anti-Porn people are going to help her make money while she is of value to them.

I'd like to make an analogy:

I hire 2 carpenters to work on my home.
After work they go and do some carpentry on their own home. They get hurt.
And now I get blamed for it because I was nice enough to have given them a job to make a living.

That scenario would NEVER happen in the "real" world.
But somehow, here in porn...it does.

billywatson 09-13-2013 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KellyPierce (Post 19798549)
Can I just say it annoys me trans performers get lumped in with Gay Performers.

We test just as hard as the mainstream industry and we use CONDOMS almost every time!

"almost"

:(

:disgust

Grapesoda 09-13-2013 11:18 AM

what mess for sure...

KellyPierce 09-13-2013 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billywatson (Post 19798666)
"almost"

:(

:disgust

Typically Evil Angel uses the no condom method with female talent and trans.

It's usually always a special case why a condom isn't used and performers are always tested right before said scene.

It's not done on an every day basis like the straight industry.

But again seeing as how not one american ts performer has been on a quarantine list and we all test heavily I think we are just as safe as YOUR "crowd".

I am probably safer than most I don't escort..I do scenes with my husband...I rarely shoot unless the pay is good enough and I always make the performer get tested right before a shoot.

So again yawn on your "sarcasm"

Grapesoda 09-13-2013 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KellyPierce (Post 19798712)
But again seeing as how not one american ts performer has been on a quarantine list and we all test heavily I think we are just as safe as YOUR "crowd".

every infection has come from the gay side I'd like to point out and congrats on the safety and testing for the TS crowds... .I used to shoot for grooby, great guy for sure... ... :thumbsup

DWB 09-13-2013 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KellyPierce (Post 19798712)
Typically Evil Angel uses the no condom method with female talent and trans.

It's usually always a special case why a condom isn't used and performers are always tested right before said scene.

Depends on the producer. That's not mandatory EA protocol.

Kudos to you for being safe all the time, but I think you're in the minority. The fact an HIV issue hasn't come from a ts yet is just luck. Some of them escort, do drugs, and have risky sex just like everyone else.

Drugs, booze, lowered inhibition, sexual people... shit happens. Doesn't matter what side of the business you work in. :2 cents:

RevSand 09-13-2013 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19798785)
Drugs, booze, lowered inhibition, sexual people... shit happens. Doesn't matter what side of the business you work in. :2 cents:

As you have pointed out, that will always be the issue no matter what rules are put in place. :2 cents:

billywatson 09-13-2013 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KellyPierce (Post 19798712)
I am probably safer than most I don't escort..

So if an escorting ad surfaces, and you're in the ad...it's fake?

And I wasn't being sarcastic in my post. Nor disrespectful. I'm not trying to pick a fight...it's just a point I'm making.

"Almost" always means there's room for something going wrong. That's all I meant.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 09-13-2013 04:11 PM

http://a.images.blip.tv/DirtyoldmenT...ianMann731.jpg

Quote:

Kevin Moore Breaks Moratorium Shot On Saturday
By MikeSouth
September 8th, 2013

Im sure he isn?t the only one but he sure stands out for one reason, he is with Evil Angel and Evil Angels General manager Christian Mann is on the FSC Board?.You know?the same one that called for a moratorium on shooting.

Wow of all companies to have a Director break the moratorium?.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 19793148)

Not true.

He shot on friday and was done shooting at noon. He got the Shut down news at 3pm via Email.

Kevin did not shoot on Saturday.


Hes a good friend. Known him for 9 years. He would never do anything of the sort.

He has absolute respect for this business and all of the talent in it.

Just Dave

Quote:

Interesting Thing About Kevin Moore
By MikeSouth
September 13th, 2013

Interesting?

Last week when I broke the story that he had defied the moratorium and shot on Saturday he quickly responded to everyone but me?He even told Christian Mann that he shot on Friday?.That much is true, he did shoot on Friday, but he also shot on Saturday the 7th.

I expect he didn?t respond to me because he knows I know the name of the girl he shot?.

Once again I?m sure lots of people are defying the moratorium but for one of Christian Mann's directors to do it is inexcusable?.
Hmmm... :disgust

:stoned

ADG

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 09-13-2013 04:11 PM

https://d3jpl91pxevbkh.cloudfront.ne...rFZs23mPng.jpg

Quote:

Cameron Bay has recently contracted HIV FANS FRIENDS AND LOVED ONES uniting to raise $ for HIV expenses for long healthy life.

As you all are aware, one of our industry performers, Cameron Bay has recently contracted HIV. In the prior week, following the public announcement and coming forward, Cameron Bay has received an outpouring of sincere thoughts and a tremendous amount of love and support, along with praise for having the courage to come forward as she did so that the entire industry was able to move into action quickly in determining any secondary transmissions, which gratefully there is none.

Cameron has been dealt a life changing event, one that could potentially happen to us all. And inspired and impressed manyThe necessary medicines that will enable her to live a long and healthy life are very expensive. If you desire to donate funds for the benefit of Cameron, please utilize this fundraising website, all funds go directly to Cameron. On behalf of Cameron, ATMLA and those who have shared their heartfelt thoughts, we thank you and appreciate your sincere donation.
I was touched by this donation message:

Quote:

Some Chick in SF $25.00

Dear Cameron,

I don't know you, but I wanted to reach out and tell you that I am rooting for you, and see you as a brave, fun, sexually liberated soul with a tough road ahead.

I sincerely hope that your fellow man does not make it harder by casting judgement or ostracizing you. I hope people step up, especially those in the industry, and show you immense love and kindness to give you that boost your spirit and wallet need right now.

Sex is great. Porn is great. It's a tragedy that there is a virus that is spread by something as awesome as fucking...but that's all that it is: a virus. It has nothing to do with you as a person.

Remember that.

Some advice:

- Read some Eckhart Tolle

- Don't get too caught up in social media; turn it off if it's becoming a negative force.

- Continue to be candid and honest about this experience - it's fucking refreshing and will continue to destigmatize Poz people.

- Educate the haters - a lot of people judge Poz people because they are seriously misinformed.

- Exercise. For your sanity and vanity.

- Listen to good music - as Bob Marley says, "the one good thing about music, when it hits you feel no pain."

- Lean on your gays - no one understands and doesn't judge what you're going through more than gay men.

- Laugh. Smile. Cry. Travel. Eat Tacos. Breathe. Etc

- Don't do anything self destructive. This is not a death sentence by any means. You are going to be around for a looooooong time, so don't switch into "I have nothing to live for" mode. It's a marathon, not a sprint.

- Lastly - for real - move to San Francisco. You will never find a city that is more well accommodated financially, spiritually and emotionally for people living with HIV. The services available for no or low cost here are unlike any other place on the planet.

All the best. Much love,

"Some chick in SF?
To send a donation or a hug to Cameron Bay:

Cameron Bay HIV Medical Fund

:stoned

ADG

Murdoch52 09-13-2013 05:05 PM

Just wanted to add a little to this... Mike South is going around talking about this on his blog and his facts are not correct.....

http://www.mikesouth.com/mike-south-...nto-porn-8300/

I know we are all little school kids over here but lets not go added fuel to the fire when we dont know wtf we are talking about.... The person in the ad he posted isnt Sophia in anyway shape or form.... So when we write about raising our standards in the industry lets start by raising our standards in reporting and fact finding...

Thats all I got to say about that!

VamosNicholas 09-13-2013 05:25 PM

Yeah, I saw the comments on that article earlier. It's funny, there's a line from Zoolander that applies perfectly to so many people in adult. A few days ago I spoofed it a bit for some forum post. Think it applies here too. Although one thing to note... I don't really mind MS and I have nothing against him, but I think at times he tries way too hard. Too many people only looking out for themselves and don't care about damaging someone's reputation or just screwing people over in general...

"Do you understand that the world does not revolve around you and your do whatever it takes, ruin as many people's lives, so long as you can make a name for yourself as an investigatory journalist, no matter how many friends you lose or people you leave dead and bloodied along the way, just so long so you can make a name for yourself as an investigatory journalist, no matter how many friends you lose or people you leave dead and bloodied and dying along the way?"

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 09-13-2013 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19797223)
http://pornnewstoday.com/pnt/wp-cont...-rob-black.jpg

Rob Black vs Mike South

http://www.lukeisback.com/wp-content...th_600x400.jpg

A novel fundraising idea:

Porn pundits Mike South and Rob Black like to mix it up on occasion, and the current HIIV situation brought them together (to fight each other) once again, except this time something actually good may come from it.

Mike South has challenged Rob Black to put his money where his mouth is to show his support for the three recently confirmed adult industry HIV+ cases by making a financial donation, which South said that he will match:

Well, looks like Mike bought himself an easy out by making the condition that Rob STFU - that's about as likely as Michael Weinstein and Diane Duke doing a bareback anal scene (although that would probably generate a lot of sales).

To date, neither man has donated a penny to Cameron. It would be a shame if they both were doing this for the sole purpose of exploiting this issue to generate eyeballs for their respective online rags. :disgust

:stoned

ADG

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19797514)

sorry bro that was a reader mail from Brad Armstrong....I generally ignore Rob Black, he lacks the common sense and the credibility to be worthy of my time ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 19797647)

Brad is good people.

Just Dave

I don't personally know Brad, but he seems like he is good people - Brad Armstrong and his wife Jessica Drake contributed $500 to the Cameron Bay HIV Medical Fund.

http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/j...a3ZLRzt7Kx.jpg

Awesome! :thumbsup

I've asked different people I meet in my day-to-day life who are not in the adult industry regarding what they have heard about the current HIV outbreak. Although they are generally scant on details, lots of people know that something serious happened related to HIV which caused the adult industry to shut down.

It's nice when I can tell other people about the many truly wonderful and caring people that there are in this industry. :)

:stoned

ADG

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 09-13-2013 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VamosNicholas (Post 19799090)

Yeah, I saw the comments on that article earlier. It's funny, there's a line from Zoolander that applies perfectly to so many people in adult. A few days ago I spoofed it a bit for some forum post. Think it applies here too. Although one thing to note... I don't really mind MS and I have nothing against him, but I think at times he tries way too hard. Too many people only looking out for themselves and don't care about damaging someone's reputation or just screwing people over in general...

"Do you understand that the world does not revolve around you and your do whatever it takes, ruin as many people's lives, so long as you can make a name for yourself as an investigatory journalist, no matter how many friends you lose or people you leave dead and bloodied along the way, just so long so you can make a name for yourself as an investigatory journalist, no matter how many friends you lose or people you leave dead and bloodied and dying along the way?"

You absolutely know that a thread is epic when someone quotes Zoolander:



http://25.media.tumblr.com/998db7eef...e2h4o1_500.gif

Only on GFY... :1orglaugh

:stoned

ADG

Grapesoda 09-13-2013 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Murdoch52 (Post 19799074)
Just wanted to add a little to this... Mike South is going around talking about this on his blog and his facts are not correct.....

http://www.mikesouth.com/mike-south-...nto-porn-8300/

I know we are all little school kids over here but lets not go added fuel to the fire when we dont know wtf we are talking about.... The person in the ad he posted isnt Sophia in anyway shape or form.... So when we write about raising our standards in the industry lets start by raising our standards in reporting and fact finding...

Thats all I got to say about that!

South is seldom correct

Grapesoda 09-13-2013 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VamosNicholas (Post 19799090)
Yeah, I saw the comments on that article earlier. It's funny, there's a line from Zoolander that applies perfectly to so many people in adult. A few days ago I spoofed it a bit for some forum post. Think it applies here too. Although one thing to note... I don't really mind MS and I have nothing against him, but I think at times he tries way too hard. Too many people only looking out for themselves and don't care about damaging someone's reputation or just screwing people over in general...

"Do you understand that the world does not revolve around you and your do whatever it takes, ruin as many people's lives, so long as you can make a name for yourself as an investigatory journalist, no matter how many friends you lose or people you leave dead and bloodied along the way, just so long so you can make a name for yourself as an investigatory journalist, no matter how many friends you lose or people you leave dead and bloodied and dying along the way?"

south would throw you and your family under the bus for 5 hits on his website

JustDaveXxx 09-13-2013 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19799015)


ADG,

You know me, I have always been a very truthful, honest, respectful, professional person. In porn, on GFY and in life in general. I dont steal, lie, cheat or deceive.


I like Mike South, I get a long with Mike South, even if we don't agree with each other on certain things.


I have been friends, with Kevin for about 9 years. Spoke with him on this subject.


I know for a fact, that he did NOT shoot on the Saturday in question. I don't care who told Mike What about who, no shoot took place.


I know this guy very well. He is a good person and a class act.


I called him up and mentioned what Mike said on his blog about him and he laughed and said, "Dave its not true, didn't happen, I shouldn't have to defend myself when I did nothing, this is ridicules."


Furthermore, I asked him, if he would like me to contact Mike South and tell him that he is incorrect with his information? "Dave, I appreciated it, but just let it go my friend, ............"


I told him "OK", i will leave it be.



Now I promised Kevin, That I would let this go and Let Evil Angel handle it.



I Should not speak up for Kevin because, I promised, I would just "let it go", But this has turned into my credibility and character being put into question now.




So I will make it super simple: Kevin Moore did not shoot on the Saturday in question!!! This, I will put on my 3 year old sons life on and my 6 year old daughters life on!!!This I know!!!!! I know what he was doing on Saturday and it was not shooting!! I am also willing to wager 2k, that Mike South will not be able to factually back up this story. (No disrespect) We can both put the money into an escrow account and see where the facts actually fall. Who gets the money, GFY can decide. Thats how sure, I am about what I know on the subject!! Let me know.


My word, my reputation is as solid as they come.



The truth will come out. That I know!! Girl needs to show a cashed check, have an agent back her story, etc. Writing a story that can hurt someone without checking the facts is just plain wrong and unprofessional.



Just Dave

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 09-13-2013 10:07 PM

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It's nice that you are a character witness for your friend Kevin, however neither you nor I was there, and only Kevin and the female performer know the truth.

I posted what Mike South wrote in order to bring out into the open, and try to get to the bottom of a pretty serious accusation; that one of the companies represented on the FSC Board violated the production moratorium.

After your initial post defending Kevin, I e-mailed Mike and asked him wtf?

Mike stood by his story, and pointed out that the performer that Kevin said he worked with on Friday was different than the performer whom MS says Kevin worked with on Saturday.

I take most hearsay with a grain of salt, so honestly, I still can't tell who is telling the truth.

I don't know Mike or Kevin personally, and for anyone reading, Dave and I have never met personally that I am aware of, although I may have met him briefly when I shot at his house years ago, since I am good friends with a guy who was one of his roommates at the time - I've only heard good things about Dave, and consider him a very good shooter (I can even kinda understand how he jumped at the opportunity to work for Manwin, even though many consider them to be the scourge of the industry).

Anyway, I feel that there could be some misdirection going on from both sides - for example, Kevin says he never shot with Performer A after the moratorium was in effect, when the performer in question was not Performer A, but instead Performer B, and Mike won't identify who Performer B is (I figured MS was setting a trap and would reveal Performer B's name at some point).

My post was an effort to bring this dispute out into the open to see if it was even possible to get to the bottom of this issue.

Mike may fly a little fast and loose on occasion, and he has stepped on his dick a time or two (muckraker occupational hazards), however I would say that he raises a lot of important issues no one else likes to talk about, and he has been proven to be correct on many occasions.

If nothing else, hopefully this controversy is causing others to not break the production moratorium, or at least to think twice about doing so, realizing that there could be some blowback if they do.

Would be nice to have the principles weigh in... :2 cents:

:stoned

ADG

mikesouth 09-13-2013 10:18 PM

hey im the first to admit it...if you look in the comments section some of the commenters got it but I explained anyway I caught that it may or may not be the same Sofia Delgado...the pics are 2 yrs old but the point of the ads being posted was simple...whether its her or not theres no shortage of people in adult that WOULD shoot THAT Sofia Delgado as soon as the ink was dry on her test results and thats the mistake we make all too often.

I get that Im high profile and that makes me an easy target but some of yall might wanna give things a bit more thought....I dont presume my readers are morons, I would appreciate that they not assume that I am...

JustDaveXxx 09-13-2013 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19799290)
http://www.logotv.com/shows/rick_and.../1/510x340.jpg

It's nice that you are a character witness for your friend Kevin, however neither you nor I was there, and only Kevin and the female performer know the truth.

I posted what Mike South wrote in order to bring out into the open, and try to get to the bottom of a pretty serious accusation; that one of the companies represented on the FSC Board violated the production moratorium.

After your initial post defending Kevin, I e-mailed Mike and asked him wtf?

Mike stood by his story, and pointed out that the performer that Kevin said he worked with on Friday was different than the performer whom MS says Kevin worked with on Saturday.

I take most hearsay with a grain of salt, so honestly, I still can't tell who is telling the truth.

I don't know Mike or Kevin personally, and for anyone reading, Dave and I have never met personally that I am aware of, although I may have met him briefly when I shot at his house years ago, since I am good friends with a guy who was one of his roommates at the time - I've only heard good things about Dave, and consider him a very good shooter (I can even kinda understand how he jumped at the opportunity to work for Manwin, even though many consider them to be the scourge of the industry).

Anyway, I feel that there could be some misdirection going on from both sides - for example, Kevin says he never shot with Performer A after the moratorium was in effect, when the performer in question was not Performer A, but instead Performer B, and Mike won't identify who Performer B is (I figured MS was setting a trap and would reveal Performer B's name at some point).

My post was an effort to bring this dispute out into the open to see if it was even possible to get to the bottom of this issue.

Mike may fly a little fast and loose on occasion, and he has stepped on his dick a time or two (muckraker occupational hazards), however I would say that he raises a lot of important issues no one else likes to talk about, and he has been proven to be correct on many occasions.

If nothing else, hopefully this controversy is causing others to not break the production moratorium, or at least to think twice about doing so, realizing that there could be some blowback if they do.

Would be nice to have the principles weigh in... :2 cents:

:stoned

ADG


Nice post. I always like your posts.


For me, Kevin isn't some guy behind a keyboard, or some Avatar on a message board, he is a long time friend who I know very well. He isn't some guy, i know through a person or hung out with once or twice. He's a real friend. One that I would waste my Friday night to defend.


I not going to go as far as to say, Mike South is being malicious and I do thinks he cares about talent and their well being, but I will say that he has been given wrong information and has preceded to use it without fact checking it.


I dont care, if he releases the name or not. Don't care, but it would be nice for him to ask and and get an email of the canceled check or some kind of photo proof, name of the DVD she was shooting, location city that he shot her in, (I know he doesn't shoot in LA City Or LA County) or the name of the talent that this fictitious girl worked with. Something.


We all know when Mike has real dirt, he is a fact posting maniac. Where are they now? Words from a person who, I absolutely know did not get hired to work on the Saturday in question.



Im all about not reviling the source, but to make serious claims of safety violations without having one single provable fact isn't very nice.



One last thing; I would not know a girl in this business who may have been wronged or made to shoot at serious risks to her health, to not publicly come out and point out the wrong doing. If there was wrong doing this girl should publicly blast Kevin so that no other girl in the future would be put at risk. Maybe she doesn't care about others being put at risk.



But that has not happened has it? Because there is no girl who shot on the Saturday in question.



Just Dave

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 09-13-2013 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 19799314)

Nice post. I always like your posts.


For me, Kevin isn't some guy behind a keyboard, or some Avatar on a message board, he is a long time friend who I know very well. He isn't some guy, i know through a person or hung out with once or twice. He's a real friend. One that I would waste my Friday night to defend.


I not going to go as far as to say, Mike South is being malicious and I do thinks he cares about talent and their well being, but I will say that he has been given wrong information and has preceded to use it without fact checking it.


I dont care, if he releases the name or not. Don't care, but it would be nice for him to ask and and get an email of the canceled check or some kind of photo proof, name of the DVD she was shooting, location city that he shot her in, (I know he doesn't shoot in LA City Or LA County) or the name of the talent that this fictitious girl worked with. Something.


We all know when Mike has real dirt, he is a fact posting maniac. Where are they now? Words from a person who, I absolutely know did not get hired to work on the Saturday in question.



Im all about not reviling the source, but to make serious claims of safety violations without having one single provable fact isn't very nice.



One last thing; I would not know a girl in this business who may have been wronged or made to shoot at serious risks to her health, to not publicly come out and point out the wrong doing. If there was wrong doing this girl should publicly blast Kevin so that no other girl in the future would be put at risk. Maybe she doesn't care about others being put at risk.



But that has not happened has it? Because there is no girl who shot on the Saturday in question.



Just Dave

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Fair enough, and I have no argument with what you said, except to note that the girl could be pressured not to say any more "if she ever wants to work in this town again".

If I were in that position, it would be an easy choice between the guy that just paid me, and has the clout he has regarding my future work in the biz, against making Mike South look good on a message forum (no offense Mike).

Unless Mike can produce a smoking gun, this one ends in Kevin's favor in the court of public opinion, since the burden of proof is on Mike now.

That does not mean that Kevin did not shoot on Saturday, just that Mike was unable to prove it - two different things for people able to follow along.

Would like to meet you someday Dave. Let me know if you are ever doing any workshops.

:stoned

ADG

JustDaveXxx 09-13-2013 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19799320)
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Fair enough, and I have no argument with what you said, except to note that the girl could be pressured not to say any more "if she ever wants to work in this town again".


For sure. I agree. The agent in that situation should way be crucified!


It will come out either way. If it is bullshit, no shooter will want to shoot her. Nobody wants the drama and bullshit. But at the same time, if she comes out, she will for sure be respected for calling out shit that should not be happening. And in that situation, she would be fine.



Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19799320)
If I were in that position, it would be an easy choice between the guy that just paid me, and has the clout he has regarding my future work in the biz, against making Mike South look good on a message forum (no offense Mike).

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Shooting at a time like now would absolutely kill your clout and reputation.

Nobody is shooting. Shooters are really taking this seriously and so are the agents.

I had a friend, just to see if he could book sex scenes,(he had no intention of actually shooting) To see if any agents would take it, nobody has.


Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19799320)
Unless Mike can produce a smoking gun, this one ends in Kevin's favor in the court of public opinion, since the burden of proof is on Mike now.

Agreed.


Cant see him getting any proof. Canceled check, something. Have he come forward and point out the scumbag. Anyone who shoots now is a scumbag!

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19799320)
That does not mean that Kevin did not shoot on Saturday, just that Mike was unable to prove it - two different things for people able to follow along.

True. But trust me when I say this; For some crazy, "his family got held for hostage and threatened with death, if he didn't shoot on Saturday", I promises, I will show up on his doorstep and personally beat his ass. I take performers safety seriously and Im not into looking stupid when I defend close friends.


Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19799320)
Would like to meet you someday Dave. Let me know if you are ever doing any workshops.

:stoned

ADG


For sure!! Your in the Bay Area right?

Well I happen to be off for a bit right now. lol


If you come down in the next 10 days and you bring your both your stills and video cameras, I got lights, I would totally work on helping up your game. We can shoot, and go over it in the editing bay immediately. Got a 6K studio filled with gear and Im always shooting non porn stuff. Its never work for me. Im always smiling and laughing.


Email me; [email protected]

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 09-14-2013 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 19799332)

For sure!! You're in the Bay Area right?

Well I happen to be off for a bit right now. lol

If you come down in the next 10 days and you bring your both your stills and video cameras, I got lights, I would totally work on helping up your game. We can shoot, and go over it in the editing bay immediately. Got a 6K studio filled with gear and Im always shooting non porn stuff. Its never work for me. Im always smiling and laughing.

Wish I could clear my schedule so easily, damn it. Definitely like to get down and learn more at your knee.

Like you, I love what I do, so it is not work for me, but I must confide, I've never worked so hard at not work in my life... :Graucho



Yup, I am here in the SF Bay Area (I live down the street from your former roomie B, he shoots great stills for me sometimes)...Anyway, we got 49ers, Raiders, A's, Giants, Sharks, America's Cup, awesome weather (foggy in the City, duh, but great otherwise), and a kick ass line-up of Fall concerts, so if you're ever up this way, hit me up (I've been known to entertain a GFYer or two up here). :)

Well, I have to get back to not work... :winkwink:

:stoned

ADG

DWB 09-14-2013 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 19799332)
If you come down in the next 10 days and you bring your both your stills and video cameras, I got lights, I would totally work on helping up your game. We can shoot, and go over it in the editing bay immediately.

Pure class. Like a boss. :thumbsup

Porno Dan 09-14-2013 09:18 AM

More facts, not speculation

Everyone performer #3 worked with has tested negative, and it has been over a month since she worked with anyone in the adult industry.

Yes, there are only 3 performers who tested positive. Cameron Bay, her boyfriend Rod Daily, and this performer who is their close friend.

All performers will be asked to go get new tests next week and as long as there are no new positive tests production will resume late next week.

mikesouth 09-14-2013 09:52 AM

If anyone thinks I post ALL the dirt I get theyd be wrong....I didnt post the girls name that he shot because she was new talent from FL who returned to FL the next day and likely was clueless, I havent posted others who are defying the moratorium (I know quite a few) I singled out Kevin because of Christian Manns connection to the FSC who called for the moratorium in the first place but then allows his directors to break it.

Christian has the facts now, what he does with them is his call likely kevin will get his hand slapped and that will be the end of it

Even I cancelled a shoot today ... none of my guys work for anyone but me and I have a very tight talent pool, but the girl I had scheduled had been to LA and shot once scene there in the last 30 days. It was my call..better safe than sorry.

I do believe that in the end everything usually comes out but for me to run certain things like Sofia Delgados name I have to have a pretty good reason.

You should see some of the stuff I DONT run....

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 09-14-2013 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19797159)

I won't use the tranny fucker either

Quote:

Originally Posted by marcop (Post 19797541)

Is this a reference to the male talent whose name is the same as the name of one of the world's major religions?

I've seen a few people suggest that HIV+ #4 was possibly ChristianXXX, and while he recently speculated about retiring from porn, he indicates that he meant by his 40th birthday next year, and insists it has nothing to do with him being HIV+:

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Porno Dan (Post 19799629)

More facts, not speculation

All performers will be asked to go get new tests next week and as long as there are no new positive tests production will resume late next week.

Well, I'm glad that everything is settled then...or is it?

Let's see, there is probably going to be more frequent testing (14 or 15 days instead of 30), which FSC/PASS was planning to announce already weeks ago anyway, but other than that, it looks like business as usual:

? Some companies will continue to test, others will not

? Some companies will continue to shoot bareback trannys/gays, and some of these will continue to crossover perform

? Performers will still catch HIV and expose others to the virus

? A moratorium will only be called by the FSC if it is a performer that tested at their clinic or is cooperating with them (if they know about another case, they will do little/nothing about it if they feel it does not affect their liability/reputation, and will not call a moratorium for the safety of the industry)

? Top agencies will continue to serve as fronts for illegal prostitution

Well, let's all crack a beer, now that the latest adult industry HIV outbreak has been swept under the carpet. :drinkup

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:stoned

ADG

JustDaveXxx 09-14-2013 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19799364)
Wish I could clear my schedule so easily, damn it. Definitely like to get down and learn more at your knee.

Like you, I love what I do, so it is not work for me, but I must confide, I've never worked so hard at not work in my life... :Graucho



Yup, I am here in the SF Bay Area (I live down the street from your former roomie B, he shoots great stills for me sometimes)...Anyway, we got 49ers, Raiders, A's, Giants, Sharks, America's Cup, awesome weather (foggy in the City, duh, but great otherwise), and a kick ass line-up of Fall concerts, so if you're ever up this way, hit me up (I've been known to entertain a GFYer or two up here). :)

Well, I have to get back to not work... :winkwink:

:stoned

ADG

So cool!!


My invitation is for real. Not busy for the next 10 days.


Really think about it. Can get some girls in for solo content so we can practice stills and Vid shooting. I love sharing tech info.

Would be fun! And I know Theo would love to catch lunch and Dinner with you too. He's in Greece for about 6 more days though.


Me and Brennan would work technical photography all the time. He lived with me for 4+ years. I am a close friend and big brother to him.

Brennan is back up in the Bay area with a good programing job. Super happy as well. Great guy and a class act. We chopped it up for an hour 4 days ago.


Maybe I will ride my Harley up to the Bay Area to visit you and Brennan.






Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19799437)
Pure class. Like a boss. :thumbsup


Thank you my friend.


Sorry I did not get back to you on ICQ. Had the alarm company at my studio.


But to anser your question:

This mic is really good and priced very well for it performance. A must have for shooting.

Get This
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I use this:

Sennheiser MKH 70 and the MKH 60 for different applications when shooting. Both are super good, priced very high and can be overkill for porn. But the are so good and so directional, that I never have to cut for plans and I can tune out all background noise with the Low pass, Mid pass, and High pass cut dip switches.

This...
http://static.bhphoto.com/images/ima...H_70_79499.jpg


The down side is; If you are holing the camera and you are trying to ask a girl questions, The MKH 70 absolutely wont pick up the camera mans voice. lol


Both good, both used for different things.


Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19799663)
If anyone thinks I post ALL the dirt I get theyd be wrong....I didnt post the girls name that he shot because she was new talent from FL who returned to FL the next day and likely was clueless, I havent posted others who are defying the moratorium (I know quite a few) I singled out Kevin because of Christian Manns connection to the FSC who called for the moratorium in the first place but then allows his directors to break it.

Christian has the facts now, what he does with them is his call likely kevin will get his hand slapped and that will be the end of it

All good. I guess we will see what happens.


Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19799663)
Even I cancelled a shoot today ... none of my guys work for anyone but me and I have a very tight talent pool, but the girl I had scheduled had been to LA and shot once scene there in the last 30 days. It was my call..better safe than sorry.

Always better safe than sorry. Im with you on that. Being "sorry" can suck and cost a lot down the road.




Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19799663)
You should see some of the stuff I DONT run....

OHHH I bet! I would guess that you get a lot of people with really slanted stores with "Axes" to grind. You are a good weapon to use to hurt people. Just hope you get the facts straight before posting it up. And if its the truth, and can prevent people from getting hurt Fuck'Em! Write that shit!!




On another subject: I like what you posted today. Good stuff, very informative, good info.

We need more informative stuff like that.:thumbsup



And lastly, if you really want to know something or you need to fact check something that I feel will help your story and help our business, contact me. I am in the "know". I 100% believe in performer safety and bettering our business.


I am a very honest, credible person, with an impeccable reputation with performers and adult companies, but there are some questions I obviously cant answer or comment on. With any questions that are questionable, I wont lie, I just won't comment for obvious reasons.



Just Dave

XXXMovie4M 09-14-2013 05:18 PM

Not that it really matters at this point but just an observation. Was this an HIV related fever?

http://api.ning.com/files/E4nzSQYY5F...ayhospital.jpg

If so, then that means this photo was taken on or before June 12th. She tested negative for HIV on July 26th and was given the green light to shoot?

Am I missing something here or are they completely unrelated? Isn't a high fever one of the first symptoms of acute HIV?


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