TheSquealer...I read the thread where you chose to denigrate Rochard

[lagcam]

I wonder why theking thinks Rochard needs somebody fighting his battles for him...... least of all somebody that nobody seems to respect anyway.

[Jel]

Originally Posted by theking

Got it...you are one of those heroic taxpayers...that could not make the cut to serve in the military.

BTW...I have probably paid in taxes...in my life time...to more than have covered all that you have listed above and I suspect that I have paid more in capital gains tax than you have made in your lifetime and still continue to pay more in capital gains tax than you earn in a year.

Originally Posted by theking

What have you ever served that is bigger than yourself...that provides you with a reason to be proud...outside of being a heroic taxpayer?

Originally Posted by theking

Your sarcasm is apparent.

In addition you have to be mentally and physically tough and not everyone that volunteers makes the cut.

Which requirement eliminated you...sport?

Originally Posted by theking

You do not need to explain or apologize...especially to the likes of TheSquealer. I did serve in combat multiple times but I am not particularly proud of that. I am proud that I made the cut to be a paratrooper and serve with the 82nd Airborne Division. There are many that cannot make that cut.

Originally Posted by theking

BTW...that includes a picture of PF and his Jump School Diploma. Also includes pictures of my home I owned when I lived in the L.A. area...with me present in some of the pictures in and outside my home...as well as my current home.

It's the paul markham of the army. You really think being in the army, or in fact any of the services, means those people are somehow 'better' than anyone else, or that people should be thankful/amazed/respectful purely becauseof your career choice? Of course it doesn't. 95% of the people on this planet have helped others, and positively touched lives in ways they can't even comprehend - your career choice alone isn't the standard by which you should be measured, even if you think so. You 'served' your country, and 'served' with blah blah division - oh what a sacrifice. People 'serve' their employers every day, and 'serve' with their co-workers, the difference is they aren't brainwashed into believing they are special because they 'serve' and not 'work for'.

Hey, it's great that people are in the military, etc, they do a great job, are often needed, and help a load of people out. Just like hundreds of millions of other people in employment.

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by theking

...for being proud of his service to his country...may I ask what service have you provided for your country?

oh you army guys and your "serve my country" diarrhea

the army is basically the cesspool of humanity...if you cant get a decent job as a decent person (doctor/lawyer/engineer/athlete ect) you join all the other rejects and begin a make-believe-life-as-a-hero

just fucking admit it...no successful person would voluntarily sign up to go live like a fucking pig in some desert and get shot at over moron US politics...it has fuck to do with patriotism...99% of people who join the army do it either because they are financially poor or genetically poor...

faith in the US army by its followers is right up there with radical religion...you can put out undeniable facts like "you fucking delusional moron the US is in no danger whatsoever LOL" but it never really had anything to do with patriotism in the first place, it was either the army or burger king...ok some had the misfortune of having parents in the army and had to follow "Tradition"

takes no balls at all to join the #1 military super power in the world and then bully force drafted 3rd world civilians who never wanted any fight with you but you decided to fly the fuck over and invade anyway...you are all pussies and you know it...we all think you are pussies and it is painfully obvious to anybody with an IQ higher than a potato...are you getting a "heroes welcome" on this board? no? theres a good reason for that sport

now go back to your bar and your war stories, go tell some tool how you are a hero for dropping a bomb on some 3rd world farmer from 30.000 feet and how you saved 'merica because that farmer was producing rice of mass destruction!

[DWB]

Originally Posted by Rochard

That's it, you figured it out. I clearly try to over compensate for my small penis. And the fact that I am gay.

This picture... Puts me completely at ease.

That wasn't for you.

The old man who lives in pain wanted to know what I have served that was bigger than myself.

[CT-Content]

There is going to be hell to pay in this thread for you naysayers after theking is rescued !



The rescue team has arrived !

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by Jel

Hey, it's great that people are in the military, etc, they do a great job, are often needed, and help a load of people out. Just like hundreds of millions of other people in employment.

These guys arent the sharpest tools in the shed for sure. I said things to theking and Rochard pops in saying "i didn't say that". I said things to Rochard and theking says he never said that. I quote Rochard and theking say's Rochard never said that and so on.

I get irritated with the "serving something bigger than yourself" rhetoric and implying they are better than others because of their service because they also put themselves in the same category of "i'm proud of my service" and "serving others" as those who enlisted to fight in WWI and WWII or the Civil War etc who enlisted specifically to fight for what they believed was right, to help others and did so knowing they weren't coming home... but made the choice to sacrifice themselves and their lives for others. Its insulting to those who actually sacrificed and made the choice to do so willingly as an adult.

It's all just the rhetoric that gets beat into their heads daily while in the military until they just can't separate fact from fiction anymore. That makes for an useful soldier. Rochard woke up every single day and did his job. He did his job, he was well compensated. He was never at risk. For that, he's so "proud" that it has to be mentioned daily. Then has the balls to ask "what have you done to be proud of" to smugly compare it to his non achievement. As if another 6 billion people across the world aren't doing the exact same thing.

I was just thinking....
My uncle joined the Navy.
He joined the Navy for the college tuition.
He was so well paid and had so much free time, that he raced motorcycles professionally while serving in the Navy.

If he would have ever said any of the things said in this thread, i would have beat the shit out of him. Luckily, he's a bright guy and loves to laugh about his time in the Navy and how good he had it.

And has been pointed out... these guys will spend their lives "proud" of a non accomplishment where in many parts of the world its compulsory.

It's fucking insane that people who have done nothing in their lives that's remotely athletic, like theking thinks it take an exceptional human being to wake up at 5:30 or to run a 8 minute mile. The whole world is full of people that wake up and do it for work and for fun. Or that its such a great honer to get cornered by a military recruiter trolling Wallmart parking lots for kids who live below the poverty line.

[fris]

i guess its better than pathfinder being dishonorably discharged for taking bribes

[TheSquealer]

And for the record, waking up one day in war time and making the decision to go fight because you believe deeply that you are fighting for what is right is "service". I respect that no matter who does it. Even the Taliban. That takes conviction and strength of character.

Waking up one day in peacetime and after seeing a Kid Rock commercial promoting the military and thinking "i'm tired of gang banging" or "i'm tired of being poor and will never afford college", or "i hate my parents, i'm out of here - that looks really cool!" etc and then going to join the military for the pay/training/education and student loans does not make you a better person than anyone else. It means you went and found gainful employment.

It certainly does not put you in the same class of people that willingly joined the military and willingly gave their lives for what was right and for the future, safety and security of others.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

faith in the US army by its followers is right up there with radical religion...

I don't see this at all. Generally speaking, people who served in the Army consider their four years or whatever as a job, nothing more, nothing less. It's a little bit different when you are in the Airborne or Rangers.

Originally Posted by crucifissio

takes no balls at all to join the #1 military super power in the world and then bully force drafted 3rd world civilians

Not when the bullets start flying.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by DWB

That wasn't for you.

The old man who lives in pain wanted to know what I have served that was bigger than myself.

But I still wish my penis was larger.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

I said things to theking and Rochard pops in saying "i didn't say that". I said things to Rochard and theking says he never said that. I quote Rochard and theking say's Rochard never said that and so on.

But that's not true at all. You said I bragged about being a Marine 2-3 times a day, when the truth is it was less than 300 times in 28k posts over 12 years. And in most those cases I wasn't bragging at all, but merely indicating a period of time when I was younger.

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by Rochard

But that's not true at all. You said I bragged about being a Marine 2-3 times a day, when the truth is it was less than 300 times in 28k posts over 12 years. And in most those cases I wasn't bragging at all, but merely indicating a period of time when I was younger.

Oh for fucks sake. Really? Your mention it enough that others make fun of you for it. Is that accurate enough for you?

[TheSquealer]

Besides, you joined the marines because you were a junkie... So your views on valor and honor are moot.

[CT-Content]

What's going on here ? - Telling people how and what to post because it gets on your nerves? - Get a fucking life !
You're in no authority to be telling anyone what the fuck to do !

If any of you have issues with their posts or threads, put them on ignore or is that to much thinking ? - Like little bitches !

[Bryan G]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Yes, running away from home a full 4 years before most states trust you to drink a wine cooler to join the military makes you not only a hero, but gives you license to never let a single thread be created on a webmaster forum where it goes unmentioned decades later.

I don't want to shit on you... I'm sure you can't wait for Rochards "this is Rochards son ... Rochard died today" thread. I don't want to rob you of that.

You guys are the high school quarterbacks taking about that one play, 40 years later and it's pretty sad.

[CDSmith]

In other news, I just watched the HBO movie Taking Chance, quite an eye-opener as to where at least some of the pride comes from that most Marines feel. While I sort of knew, I had no idea the full level of respect, care and protocol that Marines put in to escorting one of thier fallen home.

Great flick.

[Jel]

Originally Posted by Bryan G

Whooooaaaaaaaaaaa.... BUNDY!!!

[TheSquealer]

3 touchdowns in a single game!!

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Oh for fucks sake. Really? Your mention it enough that others make fun of you for it. Is that accurate enough for you?

They also blast me for discussing Mustangs, although I haven't owned one in years.

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by Rochard

They also blast me for discussing Mustangs, although I haven't owned one in years.

Oh, I see. It all has nothing to do with you or anything you say, at all

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Besides, you joined the marines because you were a junkie...

That's partially true.

My family has a long history of Marines. My grandfather was a Marine, and my father died a Marine in Vietnam. When I was in middle school I dreamed of being a Marine. By high school I had it all figured it out - I was working in a local restaurant and enrolled in the culinary classes at the high school - we had a restaurant open to the public built into the high school. My buddy and I planned on joining the Marines to become cooks, and then planned to go onto culinary college.

However, life got in the way, I dropped out of high school, left home, and got involved heavily in drugs. I saw that my life was heading downhill, a Marine recruiter got in touch with me, and I signed up.

I didn't join the Marines because I was a junkie. I joined the Marines because I wanted to join the Marines since I was about ten.

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

So your views on valor and honor are moot.

I never said that, but I'll always be proud of being a Marine.

[TheSquealer]

Rochard, I think it's great you turned your life around and great that you found direction in life. But people keep making fun of you about it because you never stop bringing it up. It has nothing to do with "marines" as much as it has to do with non stop references to something 20 years or more in your past.

[Jel]

Originally Posted by Rochard

However, life got in the way, I dropped out of high school, left home, and got involved heavily in drugs. I saw that my life was heading downhill, a Marine recruiter got in touch with me, and I signed up.

Good on you for having the self awareness at that age, and doing something about it Huge respect to you for that, sincerely (not that my saying that has any weight or anything).

note to theking - *that's* something to be very proud of

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Rochard, I think it's great you turned your life around and great that you found direction in life. But people keep making fun of you about it because you never stop bringing it up. It has nothing to do with "marines" as much as it has to do with non stop references to something 20 years or more in your past.

But I don't bring it up nearly as often as you think, and when I do I don't brag about it.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Jel

Good on you for having the self awareness at that age, and doing something about it Huge respect to you for that, sincerely (not that my saying that has any weight or anything).

I got lucky.

[Ferus]

What do you people expect go get out of this debate, other than looking like complete idiots?
It's not like you are ever going to meet in the middle. You all have your own minds on the subject, so why the fuck bother wasting your own time and GFY space on bumping your own ego?

[Horatio Caine]

Originally Posted by Bryan G

HOF Al Bundy! 4 TDs in one game for Polk High!

[theking]

Originally Posted by Rochard

That's partially true.

My family has a long history of Marines. My grandfather was a Marine, and my father died a Marine in Vietnam. When I was in middle school I dreamed of being a Marine. By high school I had it all figured it out - I was working in a local restaurant and enrolled in the culinary classes at the high school - we had a restaurant open to the public built into the high school. My buddy and I planned on joining the Marines to become cooks, and then planned to go onto culinary college.

However, life got in the way, I dropped out of high school, left home, and got involved heavily in drugs. I saw that my life was heading downhill, a Marine recruiter got in touch with me, and I signed up.

I didn't join the Marines because I was a junkie. I joined the Marines because I wanted to join the Marines since I was about ten.



I never said that, but I'll always be proud of being a Marine.

I too come from a long military linage. My dad was a Major in the Army...and served in Vietnam...his father served in the Army during the Second World War...his father served in the First World War. I had multiple relatives that served during the Civil War on both sides.

After attending college for two years and getting an associate degree...I was tired of school so I enlisted in '80. PF wanted me to get a Bachelor Degree before I enlisted so I could become an Officer like he once was...but I really did not want to be an officer at the time.

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I don't see this at all. Generally speaking, people who served in the Army consider their four years or whatever as a job, nothing more, nothing less. It's a little bit different when you are in the Airborne or Rangers.

murder is not a "job"...gun for hire is not a profession...you are rationalizing murder for politics...you sound like the thugs in my ex-country that had "patriotic" reasons to "Defend" their "homeland" and gave themselves the green light to murder "................." (insert ethnicity in blank space) because it was in the "line of duty" and their "job"...

oh and your country is in ab-so-fucking-lutely NO danger at all...fucking be a man and admit it ..."allah akbar" and "protect the motheland" is the same fucking delusional radical brainwash...just fucking admit it: the USA is in NO danger

the US army is right up there with radical islam...only the US army kills much much much much much much much more civilians, but is protected by the US double standard and pure arrogance of most americans...

Originally Posted by Rochard

Not when the bullets start flying.

there there, brave boy shot at bombed out starved force drafted 3rd world farmers who really had no place to run...then brave boy went and beat a dog with a stick until evil evil insurgent dog showed its teeth!!!! brave brave boy then called in air support to bomb the dog ...brave boy got a medal ...

"stolenvalor.com" oh man I am wiping away the tears from my face LOL