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Old 03-12-2013, 07:47 AM   #301
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Sure you can argue that the DMCA makes user uploads legal and so it's not the same. However the DMCA does NOT protect tubes who are uploading stolen content themselves or paying others to do so. Nor does it cover willful negligence and conspiracy in regards to repeat infringer policies. Not only in U.S. law but the laws of most other nations as well.
I completely agree with you there. If you know of a tube that does this, show me, and I will personally fund the lawsuit.

I actually know of one where I _think_ this is the case, but I can not prove it and sadly this is required... If you have better info, please please tell me!

I see you have a stopfilelockers link on the bottom of your sig, then you clearly know who finances this operation so you know I am not just talking...
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I completely agree with you there. If you know of a tube that does this, show me, and I will personally fund the lawsuit.

I actually know of one where I _think_ this is the case, but I can not prove it and sadly this is required... If you have better info, please please tell me!

I see you have a stopfilelockers link on the bottom of your sig, then you clearly know who finances this operation so you know I am not just talking...
I think it's more common than many believe. Although I know there are many real user uploaders too.

Now that you mention it this is pretty suspicious:
https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19522271&postcount=263

You could say that it might be because of a mass upload tool or such but the dates are different so that seems less likely. But this is no proof and I agree. It's hard to prove anything from afar unless someone slips up.

It's easy to hire someone from a third world country (or maybe even a down on their luck webmaster from Ohio) to handle uploads of stolen content for just a few hundred a month full time. There is little regulation or accountability unfortunately.
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I am confused, you can go to google.de and do an image search for porn terms and get pornography right there. From inside germany too.

How is it that you claim Germany has a "solution".. that would mean it actually works, and it clearly does not.
Unfortunately other people getting away with it is not a defense should you be charged...

Actually if you go to google.de and do an image search for "porn" you the very first image has a animal and a girl engaged in a very interesting act.
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I think it's more common than many believe. Although I know there are many real user uploaders too.

Now that you mention it this is pretty suspicious:
https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19522271&postcount=263

You could say that it might be because of a mass upload tool or such but the dates are different so that seems less likely. But this is no proof and I agree. It's hard to prove anything from afar unless someone slips up.

It's easy to hire someone from a third world country (or maybe even a down on their luck webmaster from Ohio) to handle uploads of stolen content for just a few hundred a month full time. There is little regulation or accountability unfortunately.
It looks very suspicious, especially when you consider that there were 20 videos, and all 20 of them were on all three of those sites, and all posted conspicuously close together, and all with different, random usernames. Then, there's the titles... No random user is going to title his videos with search engine placement in mind. Here are some of the titles that were posted:
"Naughty Alysha Rams Her Slot With a Huge Dildo"
"Stretching and Slamming for Naughty Alysha's Slit"
"Naughty Alysha Eases a Huge Toy Into Her Gaping Twat"
"Naughty Alysha Crams This Big Dildo Into Her Pussy"

What random user posts like that?

Oh yeah, and the videos that appeared on each site were all the exact same length, even after removing my title from the beginning... so they all came from the same source. And, of course the watermarks were all removed. That's a shitload of coincidences.
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Very interesting thread! I have been dabbling with the tubes the last few years and i can see by the amount of views Ruseful is getting on his videos that his signup he says he gets would work out right.

But from a affiliate point of view i could not push your affiliate program ruseful. Your guy approached me several times to promote you sites but your affiliate program is not affiliate friendly and from a affiliate stand point its not worth promoting.

First of the whole pre checked cross sale on revshare is a deal breaker from the get go. I am assuming the affiliate does not get credit from the prechecked which is a big no no. Also the whole 1 day cookie is another issue. I also got a popup for playboy on my revshare links.

Fix the issues i stated above and you will pick up more affiliates and more sales. Your content is great so what ever you our doing there keep doing it
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Well the 1 day cookie is a easy fix on ccbill and nats that should take 5 minutes to do. Also i see you are using Gammea for billing so contact Gammea and they should be able to to remove the the crosssale from the revshare links. Also any plans in the future for adding PPS?

Whats the best way to contact you i will send you over details how to fix your issues.
I would really love to to promote your sites
If JT makes any changes from this thread, I hope it has to do with the affiliate issues Hornydog4cooter brought up and offered to help fix.
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If JT makes any changes from this thread, I hope it has to do with the affiliate issues Hornydog4cooter brought up and offered to help fix.
I hope he fixes these issues as well. They have really great content and i would love to promote them but this is a big issue for me.

its hard enough for a affiliate these days much less with this setup. Ruseful when can we see these fixes implemented?
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hey nathan adult king needs another donation you made a donation last time now they are going to close down because your not paying.
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It looks very suspicious, especially when you consider that there were 20 videos, and all 20 of them were on all three of those sites, and all posted conspicuously close together, and all with different, random usernames. Then, there's the titles... No random user is going to title his videos with search engine placement in mind. Here are some of the titles that were posted:
"Naughty Alysha Rams Her Slot With a Huge Dildo"
"Stretching and Slamming for Naughty Alysha's Slit"
"Naughty Alysha Eases a Huge Toy Into Her Gaping Twat"
"Naughty Alysha Crams This Big Dildo Into Her Pussy"

What random user posts like that?

Oh yeah, and the videos that appeared on each site were all the exact same length, even after removing my title from the beginning... so they all came from the same source. And, of course the watermarks were all removed. That's a shitload of coincidences.

Ah, those rogue uploaders, they remove watermarks, cut the videos and they are even so smart, they make even own SEO titles, lol
And now we should believed that it wasnt uploaded by someone inhouse
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still waiting for someone to tell me how I can upload to manwin tubes without being a content partner....
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hey nathan adult king needs another donation you made a donation last time now they are going to close down because your not paying.
We've never said we are closing down, quite the contrary as we're expanding our reach and influence.

What I have said is that we only exist with the support we receive from the industry.

I usually wouldn't respond to useless trolls like you, I just don't want anyone believing the crap you constantly spout.
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still waiting for someone to tell me how I can upload to manwin tubes without being a content partner....
Good question.....
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still waiting for someone to tell me how I can upload to manwin tubes without being a content partner....
You mean you can't upload to their tubes without joining the CPP? So that means no new pirated content should be getting on the site, right?
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Ah, those rogue uploaders, they remove watermarks, cut the videos and they are even so smart, they make even own SEO titles, lol
And now we should believed that it wasnt uploaded by someone inhouse
Why anyone would believe anything Fabian has had to say past or present after his recent legal woes revealed half truths and misinformation amazes me.

But then again just looking at this thread should tell you the only ones gobbling his cock up and patting him on the back are those that think they have something to gain.
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I upload manwin content on manwin tubes and and i dont have a content partner account. and i even watermark their vids with my site's name
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I cannot read all 300 + of these post but i just wanted to say hi to nathan, and ruseful if your looking to hire someone with no experience in shit really . Whats up to beaner and signup...and newnick had one of the best comments in this thread.
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It's easy to hire someone from a third world country (or maybe even a down on their luck webmaster from Ohio) to handle uploads of stolen content for just a few hundred a month full time. There is little regulation or accountability unfortunately.
Wait a minute...wtf you got to throw OHIO in it for?
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How many teenage girls are getting gangbanged now because the just think its 'normal'? its happening and ever increasingly. whatever videos are on the front page of tubes or big name porn sites will be what the kids are watching. just look at youporn. you have gangbangs, group sex, fisiting, japanese fetish all on the front page. there isn't even any kind of warning page.

what kids are exposed to now is has definitely gone up by 10 notches at least. its not even comparable to what we saw as kids. and i have to laugh and cry that nathan basically posted that its good for kids to be exposed to porn. that's fucked up! i don't think we should hide sexuality from kids but no matter what way you want to swing it, porn is not going to give kids a healthy view of sex. of course they're all going to see it at some point but porn to day is so much more hardcore and easily available that they'll be doing it at younger ages and more frequently. the first "porn" i saw was playboy from the 70's....what will be the first porn my kid sees? he's not even born yet. its kinda scary to think about.
During my senior year of high school there was 2 cheerleaders gangbanged in the school auditorium by a couple of the football players...my high school is now well known around here for that gangbang lol.
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During my senior year of high school there was 2 cheerleaders gangbanged in the school auditorium by a couple of the football players...my high school is now well known around here for that gangbang lol.
When I was in highschool there were a couple of "gangbangs" (group sex parties). Not "rape" or anything like that. Just a bunch of teenagers getting together in the woods, getting wasted, and fucking.

They year was 1978. Long before internet porn ever existed (or even magazines that showed penetration).

I know we like to think (and religious nuts would LOVE to place blame) that our internet porn is responsible for teens having group sex/and or anal sex...but trust me: Teens don't need internet porn to do "taboo sex".

For instance when I was in college...my then wife and I had three-way sex with an 18 year old little blonde girl. She was actually Puerto Rican and had bleached her hair. She was a "good Catholic girl" so she wanted to save her virginity for her husband.
Guess how she did that?
She only had ANAL sex with guys! lol

I was singing praises and hallelujahs to God for his stupid ass rules and the Catholic church.

The year was 1981. Again no internet porn existed. And yet...there I was 20 years old having three way ANAL sex with my wife and an 18 year old.

And that was just the beginning for me. I fucked girls in the ass, group sex, even a mom & daughter together during the 1980's as I traveled in my rock band. No internet porn existed...nor did I NEED any kind of guide. lol

Kids today don't either. With or without internet porn there will ALWAYS be young, horned up people fucking like crazy and doing "taboo" stuff that is NOT vanilla. Just like some people will NEVER have crazy sex and will only do vanilla sex. It's just the way it is.
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And that was just the beginning for me. I fucked girls in the ass, group sex, even a mom & daughter together during the 1980's as I traveled in my rock band. No internet porn existed...nor did I NEED any kind of guide. lol


In i was a club manager from 1998 to 2001, internet was just starting and their was no free hardcore porn and I pretty much had the same routine.

Ask the greeks if they needed porn back in the days.
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Yeah, I was born a sex freak...no internet was needed. lol

Come to think of it, "porn" didn't create all those things like double fisting and other extreme stuff.

Porn simply mirrored what people were already doing and fantasizing about out there in private.
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i've been wondering about this lately. when i dated chicks in the 1980s, they all had pussy fur and no real idea what anal sex is, now they are all clean shaven and very much know about anal.

it occurred to me that is a correlation to the styles of porn of the times, that porn can influence sexual trends.

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i've been wondering about this lately. when i dated chicks in the 1980s, they all had pussy fur and no real idea what anal sex is, now they are all clean shaven and very much know about anal.

it occurred to me that is a correlation to the styles of porn of the times, that porn can influence sexual trends.

Yes. People used to use their heads. Now they just do what others do cause they are stupid.
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i've been wondering about this lately. when i dated chicks in the 1980s, they all had pussy fur and no real idea what anal sex is, now they are all clean shaven and very much know about anal.

it occurred to me that is a correlation to the styles of porn of the times, that porn can influence sexual trends.

You were fucking the wrong girls!!! LOL

I lived in Ft. Lauderdale in the 1980's when the Lauderdale strip was "ground zero" for college spring break. Every day for six straight weeks in the springtime there were half a million people on a 1 mile strip of beach on A-1-A in Ft. Lauderdale.

And my band would play the clubs there: Summers On The Beach, The Button On The Beach, The Candy Store, Penrods...I was fucking coeds from every college in America.
A FEW had landing strips. Most were clean shaved. And at least 1/4 of them (though I wasn't exactly keeping accurate stats lol) did anal.
That was the time period of 1983 to 1988.

Never once...not one time...did I see a real hairy pussy. A lot of that might have been because in the 1980's women's bikinis were a LOT skimpier. Most of them wore stings for the bottoms and little peel off decals that went over their nipples for the tops.

Amazing if you go to the beach here in the U.S. how much we have regressed. Today it's actually ILLEGAL for a woman to wear a thong bikini on the beach.

Anyway, trust me...the porn mags in the 1980's had hairy beavers for the most part. But the young college girls were shaved. (and doing anal lol)
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Hey Nathan, how bout pornstar profile photos? Do users upload those? Dont think so.
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You were fucking the wrong girls!!! LOL

I lived in Ft. Lauderdale in the 1980's when the Lauderdale strip was "ground zero" for college spring break. Every day for six straight weeks in the springtime there were half a million people on a 1 mile strip of beach on A-1-A in Ft. Lauderdale.

And my band would play the clubs there: Summers On The Beach, The Button On The Beach, The Candy Store, Penrods...I was fucking coeds from every college in America.
A FEW had landing strips. Most were clean shaved. And at least 1/4 of them (though I wasn't exactly keeping accurate stats lol) did anal.
That was the time period of 1983 to 1988.

Never once...not one time...did I see a real hairy pussy. A lot of that might have been because in the 1980's women's bikinis were a LOT skimpier. Most of them wore stings for the bottoms and little peel off decals that went over their nipples for the tops.

Amazing if you go to the beach here in the U.S. how much we have regressed. Today it's actually ILLEGAL for a woman to wear a thong bikini on the beach.

Anyway, trust me...the porn mags in the 1980's had hairy beavers for the most part. But the young college girls were shaved. (and doing anal lol)
maybe i was fucking the wrong girls, i certainly tried to. nevertheless, i wasn't referring to hairy beaver, but trimmed. and i made sure every gal i ran with got a nice thong bikini as well.

but my point still stands, the girls i knew then had pussy fur and not familiar with anal for the most part, these days it's the opposite.
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but my point still stands, the girls i knew then had pussy fur and not familiar with anal for the most part, these days it's the opposite.
Where were you located in the 1980's when you were seeing all that pussy "fur"?

Like I said, I was living in Ft. Lauderdale...but every college in the U.S. was coming there for spring break. So I fucked coeds from California, Idaho, Montana, Kentucky, Alabama, New York...pretty much every state, including all the backwoods ones. lol

Over half were totally shaved. And the rest had little 1/4 inch "landing strips" and "hitler mustaches" right above their clits.

So I was getting a great sample of girls from all over the country. And then we toured the country east of the Mississippi during the 1980's when we weren't in Lauderdale (and Daytona Beach) for Spring Break.
Just never ran into any hairy pussy during that time (mostly young girls 18 to 25). Just shaved or tiny landing strips that might as well have been shaved.

My first band was playing pro in 1978 (I was 17) playing clubs in Tampa. I never ran into a hairy bush even in 1978 and 1979 in Tampa.
All of those girls had that tiny sliver of hair that might as well have been shaved off.

And when I met my 1st wife in 1979 the first thing I did was get her in the shower on our first "date" and shave off that little sliver of hair she had.

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look, i get it, we all get it, you were in a band & got laid in the 80s.

that's neat and all but beside the point i was making, which was-

people's thoughts, behaviors, and actions are influenced by social constructs. it's myopic to believe that porn does not influence sexual thoughts and behaviors.
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Maybe people could be naughty without porn, too? Especially in those "massage parlours"...
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look, i get it, we all get it, you were in a band & got laid in the 80s.

that's neat and all but beside the point i was making, which was-

people's thoughts, behaviors, and actions are influenced by social constructs. it's myopic to believe that porn does not influence sexual thoughts and behaviors.
I'm only trying to tell you that I saw (and still see to this very day) a LOT of girls from EVERYWHERE in the U.S.

And what I saw (and still see) completely contradicts what you're saying.

Also in MY experience people were already doing all the things that are done in porn years and years before it was ever put online on the internet.

I was a little too young to have attended all the famous orgies and sex parties in New York at Studio 54...but for you or anyone else who thinks that people weren't throwing down with kinky sex and shaved pussy a long time before internet porn...you're just wrong.

Think about all the crazy Hollywood parties that Jack Nicholson threw (and supposedly even FILMED) in the 1960's for instance.

Do porn scenes "influence" people. Maybe, but not the way you think it does.

For instance...I personally already had my kinky thoughts when I was a teenager. When I was 18 I read the book "Thy Neighbors Wife" by Gay Talese. It's a book about swinging.
Did it "influence" me? Yeah, because it re-affirmed that I wasn't alone in my sexual desires and fantasies.

But it didn't show me anything "new" that I hadn't already thought of to begin with.

So yeah, maybe some girls want to shave their pussy but thought it might be weird to do and then saw a porn with shaved pussy and said: "Okay! Now I feel free to do so"

But it's not the "monkey see, monkey do" scenario that you are suggesting. My experience (and MILLIONS of other people who were doing the same thing as me in the 1970's, 1980's , 1990's, 2000's and today) say differently.

EDIT: By the way, you still never told me where you were living in the 1980's that was the land of hairy bush. heh-heh
I'm just curious where you were located in the time period and kept getting tons of pube.

DOUBLE EDIT: I'm suggesting that the PORN mirrors real life. Not the other way around. Maybe it's myopic to believe that porn is creating all the sexual fantasies instead of just fulfilling them
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I'm only trying to tell you that I saw (and still see to this very day) a LOT of girls from EVERYWHERE in the U.S.

And what I saw (and still see) completely contradicts what you're saying.

Also in MY experience people were already doing all the things that are done in porn years and years before it was ever put online on the internet.

I was a little too young to have attended all the famous orgies and sex parties in New York at Studio 54...but for you or anyone else who thinks that people weren't throwing down with kinky sex and shaved pussy a long time before internet porn...you're just wrong.

Think about all the crazy Hollywood parties that Jack Nicholson threw (and supposedly even FILMED) in the 1960's for instance.

Do porn scenes "influence" people. Maybe, but not the way you think it does.

For instance...I personally already had my kinky thoughts when I was a teenager. When I was 18 I read the book "Thy Neighbors Wife" by Gay Talese. It's a book about swinging.
Did it "influence" me? Yeah, because it re-affirmed that I wasn't alone in my sexual desires and fantasies.

But it didn't show me anything "new" that I hadn't already thought of to begin with.

So yeah, maybe some girls want to shave their pussy but thought it might be weird to do and then saw a porn with shaved pussy and said: "Okay! Now I feel free to do so"

But it's not the "monkey see, monkey do" scenario that you are suggesting. My experience (and MILLIONS of other people who were doing the same thing as me in the 1970's, 1980's , 1990's, 2000's and today) say differently.

EDIT: By the way, you still never told me where you were living in the 1980's that was the land of hairy bush. heh-heh
I'm just curious where you were located in the time period and kept getting tons of pube.

DOUBLE EDIT: I'm suggesting that the PORN mirrors real life. Not the other way around. Maybe it's myopic to believe that porn is creating all the sexual fantasies instead of just fulfilling them
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I'm only trying to tell you that I saw (and still see to this very day) a LOT of girls from EVERYWHERE in the U.S.

And what I saw (and still see) completely contradicts what you're saying.

Also in MY experience people were already doing all the things that are done in porn years and years before it was ever put online on the internet.

I was a little too young to have attended all the famous orgies and sex parties in New York at Studio 54...but for you or anyone else who thinks that people weren't throwing down with kinky sex and shaved pussy a long time before internet porn...you're just wrong.

Think about all the crazy Hollywood parties that Jack Nicholson threw (and supposedly even FILMED) in the 1960's for instance.

Do porn scenes "influence" people. Maybe, but not the way you think it does.

For instance...I personally already had my kinky thoughts when I was a teenager. When I was 18 I read the book "Thy Neighbors Wife" by Gay Talese. It's a book about swinging.
Did it "influence" me? Yeah, because it re-affirmed that I wasn't alone in my sexual desires and fantasies.

But it didn't show me anything "new" that I hadn't already thought of to begin with.

So yeah, maybe some girls want to shave their pussy but thought it might be weird to do and then saw a porn with shaved pussy and said: "Okay! Now I feel free to do so"

But it's not the "monkey see, monkey do" scenario that you are suggesting. My experience (and MILLIONS of other people who were doing the same thing as me in the 1970's, 1980's , 1990's, 2000's and today) say differently.

EDIT: By the way, you still never told me where you were living in the 1980's that was the land of hairy bush. heh-heh
I'm just curious where you were located in the time period and kept getting tons of pube.

DOUBLE EDIT: I'm suggesting that the PORN mirrors real life. Not the other way around. Maybe it's myopic to believe that porn is creating all the sexual fantasies instead of just fulfilling them
At 12,13,14 years of age you, and millions of others were into double anal, gangbangs, fisting, gagging, heavy & rough bdsm 'forced' sex, and so on? I highly doubt that was the norm back then, or at any time in history. Btw I don't think anyone is suggesting porn creates desire/perversion, I think the consensus is though that porn is formative when viewed at a formative age, like 12,13,14 or thereabouts.
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At 12,13,14 years of age you, and millions of others were into double anal, gangbangs, fisting, gagging, heavy & rough bdsm 'forced' sex, and so on? I highly doubt that was the norm back then, or at any time in history. Btw I don't think anyone is suggesting porn creates desire/perversion, I think the consensus is though that porn is formative when viewed at a formative age, like 12,13,14 or thereabouts.
You didn't read what I wrote. I didn't say I was "into" all of that at age 12.

And the consensus you speak of is being made by ignorant people who seem to have selective memories of being young and/or they weren't getting laid a lot and have no business making such statements to begin with.

And teen boys are not now, or ever, overly interested in all the extreme sex you just mentioned (except for the freakshow aspect).

Just like grown up men...teenagers like certain niches as well. And just like us..the vast majority of them know what they like when they see it and go "Ewww...how would anybody like that?" when they see something they don't like.

You know, I don't remember being a little robot who was easily manipulated when I was a teenager.
To the contrary, I was a little rebel without a cause who questioned everything (especially authority). I was the last person on Earth who would see double fisting and have my mind changed to suddenly be brainwashed and want to try that on my girlfriend.

I think most of us were that way as teenagers as well. We weren't stupid, or ignorant. We WANTED to see everything there was to see and learn what we enjoyed and didn't.

It's human sexuality and it's natural. I remember seeing a bestiality (horse/woman) 8 mm flick when I was in junior highschool. Me and my buddies all were whooping it up and screaming and laughing.

But NOBODY in that room really wanted to see a girl fuck a horse in real life. We were all kinda grossed out by it.

I'm thinking that we are just like our fucking parents. We got old, forgot what it was like to be a teenager and now WE think we know best (just like the generations before us that we rebelled against).

I guess it's just human nature and the cycle of life.
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At 12,13,14 years of age you, and millions of others were into double anal, gangbangs, fisting, gagging, heavy & rough bdsm 'forced' sex, and so on? I highly doubt that was the norm back then, or at any time in history. Btw I don't think anyone is suggesting porn creates desire/perversion, I think the consensus is though that porn is formative when viewed at a formative age, like 12,13,14 or thereabouts.
You must not have had any fucked up friends growing up, or they just kept that to themselves...
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You didn't read what I wrote. I didn't say I was "into" all of that at age 12.

And the consensus you speak of is being made by ignorant people who seem to have selective memories of being young and/or they weren't getting laid a lot and have no business making such statements to begin with.

And teen boys are not now, or ever, overly interested in all the extreme sex you just mentioned (except for the freakshow aspect).

Just like grown up men...teenagers like certain niches as well. And just like us..the vast majority of them know what they like when they see it and go "Ewww...how would anybody like that?" when they see something they don't like.

You know, I don't remember being a little robot who was easily manipulated when I was a teenager.
To the contrary, I was a little rebel without a cause who questioned everything (especially authority). I was the last person on Earth who would see double fisting and have my mind changed to suddenly be brainwashed and want to try that on my girlfriend.

I think most of us were that way as teenagers as well. We weren't stupid, or ignorant. We WANTED to see everything there was to see and learn what we enjoyed and didn't.

It's human sexuality and it's natural. I remember seeing a bestiality (horse/woman) 8 mm flick when I was in junior highschool. Me and my buddies all were whooping it up and screaming and laughing.

But NOBODY in that room really wanted to see a girl fuck a horse in real life. We were all kinda grossed out by it.

I'm thinking that we are just like our fucking parents. We got old, forgot what it was like to be a teenager and now WE think we know best (just like the generations before us that we rebelled against).

I guess it's just human nature and the cycle of life.
I think you're confusing getting laid at whatever age, with what you saw at 12 - 14. Who gets laid a lot at 12 - 14? I'm not so out of touch I think 12 - 14 year olds aren't having sex, but it's not a regular thing, and doesn't mean that the consensus of porn being formative during those ages is wrong.

Your posts seem to merge between what you were doing when you were sexually active with another person(s) and what you think you were thinking about prior to that, at, as people keep saying, the 12 - 14 or so range. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for porn, lots of sex however you like it, and blah blah etc etc, but to think that extreme porn is in any way a good thing for 12 - 14 year olds to be seeing is a bit off the wall.

Anyway, not only is this thread way off track, but it's got to the point where the posts are too muddled as well to properly discuss, so 1 more reply and I'm out of this one
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I'm not confused about what I'm talking about. You're confusing what you think I'm talking about. lol

And just like sex...it's confusing!

Let's just agree to be confused.
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You must not have had any fucked up friends growing up, or they just kept that to themselves...
Yeah, my 12 year old friends and me didn't discuss how great double anal, fisting, gagging, simulated-forced scenes, etc were, weren't we the weird bunch '_'
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look, i get it, we all get it, you were in a band & got laid in the 80s.

that's neat and all but beside the point i was making, which was-

people's thoughts, behaviors, and actions are influenced by social constructs. it's myopic to believe that porn does not influence sexual thoughts and behaviors.
He will repeat it another 10 times. Then he will tells us again how much money he made. About 6 times. He thinks he's amazing. And he's the only person here who thinks that funny enough.
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Hey Ruseful , how in the world did you get so fast up on that list with your channel only having 10 videos ?
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While there is no "solution" for preventing children from accessing or seeing free porn on the Internet, if everyone would agree that reducing the number of children who can freely access almost any kind of porn imagineable by 90% is worth doing then there ARE "solutions".

How about triple age verification? CC, mobile #, SSN #.

How about Google not posting porn images in their searches?

Of course LAWS are required to attempt anything regarding child protection. And the Laws will be flawed and likely be ineffectual. So the alternative is to do nothing?

A clever horny teenager will find his way around country blocks, IP restrictions, age verification, etc. He'll find a password-sharing site, he'll steal his dad's password he found in dad's wallet.....

But this is OKAY people. It's NORMAL. We WANT teenagers to have to hunt and hunt to find a way to SEE A TIT. It's part of growing up. Dad finds son whacking it to Playboy, yells at son, leaves room thinking 'Whew! At least he ain't gay..."

But to have this extreme porn EV-ER-Y-WHERE all the time is just too damn much. But then again, I also find viagra and strip club commercials offensive when I see or hear them before 10 pm.

This shit started when they released the Starr Report on the Internet back in 1998. Then laws were changed to allow condom and viagra commercials on the air anytime they want. So now I'm watching a Saturday morning cartoon show and up pops a Viagra ad! "Daddy, what's 'erectile dysfunction'?"

Some politician or mother's group is going to make all this shit a campaign issue then things will change. Not til then sadly.
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I picked up a few girls on spring break in that period and hit fur at least once. I was at Penrods too. At that time it could go either way. Everyone knew about anal but it was not a given.

Things I am pretty sure did not happen, I didn't spit on them or get spit on. I didn't whip her face. Sex was just sort of a fun thing versus an angry thing. I tend to miss that when some girl is into choking or slapping. So much fucking work now days to just get a piece.
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