Ebay making it harder and harder to sell

[Choker]

Starting in May in order to get the 20% top rated discount off of seller fees you have to not only provide 1 day handling, but you have to have a tracking number entered by the next business day. And you have to offer 14 day returns instead of 3 or 7.

I understand that ebay is having trouble competing with Amazon and they need to improve their sellers service, but punishing them for not meeting higher standards is bullshit. Rewarding with a 25% discount instead of 20% if you meet thier new standards would get more sellers to comply.

[JFK]

Can you still do business on EBay? I gave up on it yrs ago

[seeandsee]

I cant even sell on ebay, i think our country will get paypal in next century

[Choker]

Originally Posted by JFK

Can you still do business on EBay? I gave up on it yrs ago

Yeah but it's very stressful.

[edgeprod]

Selling metal/coins on eBay is good business if you only want a few grand extra per month. Anything else isn't worth the hassle, IMO.

[sandman!]

ebay has been buyer centric fucking with sellers for years now.

[BIGTYMER]

Originally Posted by sandman!

ebay has been buyer centric fucking with sellers for years now.

Yup. They care only about the buyer.

[combson]

I have heard only bad words from my friends selling some rare items there recently!

[F-U-Jimmy]

If they drop Pay Pal and stop trying to be a poor mans Amazon they may stand a chance if not i give them 2 years tops before we see a chapter 13. There's some interesting shit on ebaysucks.com

[Jakez]

Only tried selling one there once before, the Nigerians kept doing buy it now on a laptop and ending the auction causing me to pay to open another one again. After that happened like 3 times in a row I said fuck this shit. I still have a -$26 balance on my account and ebay won't pay me it.

[billywatson]

I've heard nothing positive about eBay on the seller side now for a long, long time.

[kane]

I haven't sold anything on there in a few years. It used to be a breeze and they seemed to be genuinely interested in helping sellers out. Now It seems like they have taken a different turn and are almost trying to weed out the little guys by making it harder and harder for them to make any money.

[NaughtyRob]

My sister makes the bulk of her sales on ebay and for about 3 yrs now they have been implementing more and more restrictions making it way harder.

[nm_]

fuck ebay/paypal. my power-seller account / business reputation on ebay was destroyed after a couple buyers decided to fuck me over with paypal disputes. paypal always sides with the buyer ;[

[$5 submissions]

They should stop trying to be Amazon and focus on providing stuff you can't get elsewhere (pricewise or selectionwise)

[Choker]

Originally Posted by kane

I haven't sold anything on there in a few years. It used to be a breeze and they seemed to be genuinely interested in helping sellers out. Now It seems like they have taken a different turn and are almost trying to weed out the little guys by making it harder and harder for them to make any money.

They are loosing business to amazon and instead of doing what has worked in the past they are trying to copy amazon. A seller can't even give a buyer neutral or negative feedback anymore. This defeats the whole purpose of a feedback system. They are so concerned about the buyers they screw the seller, what they dont think about is that every power seller there buys as much shit on ebay as probably 100 regular buyers. Fuck a power seller over and you loose a lot of sales too.

[DEA]

ebay's fees are way to high..the whole disputed sale thing is a pain in the ass..

really the ebay deals are gone ..there are so many place on the interwebnets these day to find a deal its not worth the timeand effort to mess with ebays cluster fuck

[brassmonkey]

i have no problem with that. http://www.internetretailer.com/2012...t-better-shape there are some good things as well.

[candyflip]

I have no problem selling on eBay and have won more than a handful of disputes with customers. If you cover your ass as a seller, they have to side with the seller.

[kane]

Originally Posted by Choker

They are loosing business to amazon and instead of doing what has worked in the past they are trying to copy amazon. A seller can't even give a buyer neutral or negative feedback anymore. This defeats the whole purpose of a feedback system. They are so concerned about the buyers they screw the seller, what they dont think about is that every power seller there buys as much shit on ebay as probably 100 regular buyers. Fuck a power seller over and you loose a lot of sales too.

So even if a buyer fucks you over you can't leave anything but good feedback?

That is fucked up.

Back when I sold a lot of stuff I didn't have many problems, most of the buyers were cool, but there were a couple that were nightmares. It was nice to be able to leave neutral feedback on them so other sellers might beware.

[Profits of Doom]

I had a family friend growing up that until very recently owned a jewelry store at the Ft. Lauderdale Swap Shop, and I remember back in the day the Swap Shop would get raided by the feds every couple months. They would haul out loads and loads of counterfeit goods. Now I heard they were raided recently and the feds were targeting stolen goods, and they busted some huge ring of Easter European criminals that would target eBay in particular. They would buy goods, claim to never receive them, receive a refund, and then sell the goods at the Swap Shop. Then open a new account and rinse and repeat.

There are entire criminal groups targeting eBay like this now. It's a fucking shame because I used to buy and sell tens of thousands of dollars worth of goods on there, including all the overstock novelties from my old porn stores. Now I go there maybe once a year at best...

[kane]

Originally Posted by candyflip

I have no problem selling on eBay and have won more than a handful of disputes with customers. If you cover your ass as a seller, they have to side with the seller.

Luckily I only had a couple of problems with sellers. One was for an older 1970's organ. I put it up on ebay as a local pick up only auction. It weighed a ton so shipping it would cost a fortune. I got some bidders and ended up with a winner. The guy contacts me and we set up a time for him to come pick it up. He is going to pay cash when he picks it up. When he arrives he looks it over, likes it, then starts to haggle on the price with me. The final sale price was $400. Suddenly he wants to offer me $150 for it. I tell him no. It works as I claimed, everything is there as I claimed. For about 20 minutes we debated over the price and he started getting pissed. Finally he told me that he didn't want the bench it came with so he shouldn't have to pay the full price. I agreed to knock $50 off if he didn't take the bench. He wasn't happy with that and ended up leaving.

I contacted the next highest bidder and he came out the next day and bought it. Then the first guy shows back up at my house a few days later and agrees to pay the full price. I tell him I sold it to someone else and he flipped out. He was so pissed off I actually shut the door in his face and called the cops who came and told him to leave.

I left feedback explaining what this guy had done, but he never responded it to or me so there never was a dispute other than him being removed from my place by the cops.

I learned my lesson then. Never invite ebayers over.

[kane]

Originally Posted by Profits of Doom

I had a family friend growing up that until very recently owned a jewelry store at the Ft. Lauderdale Swap Shop, and I remember back in the day the Swap Shop would get raided by the feds every couple months. They would haul out loads and loads of counterfeit goods. Now I heard they were raided recently and the feds were targeting stolen goods, and they busted some huge ring of Easter European criminals that would target eBay in particular. They would buy goods, claim to never receive them, receive a refund, and then sell the goods at the Swap Shop. Then open a new account and rinse and repeat.

There are entire criminal groups targeting eBay like this now. It's a fucking shame because I used to buy and sell tens of thousands of dollars worth of goods on there, including all the overstock novelties from my old porn stores. Now I go there maybe once a year at best...

I used to buy storage units and sell the stuff I found in them. Sold thousands of items over the years, but the fees are so crazy now it isn't worth selling cheaper items. Hell, if you sell something for $5 by the time you pay the ebay and paypal fees you have next to nothing left.

[Phoenix]

awesome news..

[Fat Panda]

ebay is a fucking joke. nobody uses that shitball site anymore

[Choker]

Originally Posted by candyflip

I have no problem selling on eBay and have won more than a handful of disputes with customers. If you cover your ass as a seller, they have to side with the seller.

Yeah but thats not the problem. My daughter has only had one dispute and the buyer quickly withdrew it after she pointed out to him that his first email contained a comment about leaving her feedback. (feedback extortion) The problem is buyers holding feedback over you while you have nothing. You have to kiss ass and sometimes loose money just to avoid negative feedback.

Some jerk just left her negative feedback because he didn't read the listing and thought it was something it wasnt. She can do nothing about this even though the listing cleary explains whats in it and anyone looking at it can realize that the buyer is wrong.

[Choker]

Originally Posted by kane

So even if a buyer fucks you over you can't leave anything but good feedback?

That is fucked up.

Back when I sold a lot of stuff I didn't have many problems, most of the buyers were cool, but there were a couple that were nightmares. It was nice to be able to leave neutral feedback on them so other sellers might beware.

Can't do that anymore. You can only leave buyers positive. Also a buyer can leave you feedback if the transaction is not completed, IE a refund before you ship it even if it's at their request. That's just plain stupid.

[Ayla_SquareTurtle]

Originally Posted by SAC

ebay is a fucking joke. nobody uses that shitball site anymore

Nope, nobody. And nobody is making money there either. Not one red cent.

[BIGTYMER]

Originally Posted by F-U-Jimmy

If they drop Pay Pal and stop trying to be a poor mans Amazon they may stand a chance if not i give them 2 years tops before we see a chapter 13. There's some interesting shit on ebaysucks.com

Not a chance. They have very strong earnings. The stock market agrees as the stock is at a 1 yr high.

[Profits of Doom]

Originally Posted by kane

I used to buy storage units and sell the stuff I found in them. Sold thousands of items over the years, but the fees are so crazy now it isn't worth selling cheaper items. Hell, if you sell something for $5 by the time you pay the ebay and paypal fees you have next to nothing left.

Damn I love those damn storage unit shows, I think I spent an entire Saturday once watching a marathon. I heard those shows have drove the attendance at those auctions up through the roof nationwide...

[kane]

Originally Posted by Profits of Doom

Damn I love those damn storage unit shows, I think I spent an entire Saturday once watching a marathon. I heard those shows have drove the attendance at those auctions up through the roof nationwide...

That is what I understand. I guess there are a ton of people out there now looking into this.

I'm just about done writing an e-book on how to find the auctions, buy the units and make money off of them.

[mayabong]

I sell stuff on there sometimes.. only what I can't sell on craigslist. 9% fees + paypal fees and other fees are rough.

[famous]

paypal will always be used for ebay, its the same compnay. If you send out items with delivery confrimation or tracking as a seller you will NEVER ever loose and neither will the buyer. Paypal will side with you and reinburse the buyer out of thier pocket. I see it all the time ;)

Ebay also cans BUYERS just like sellers. If you are a new buyer or have lots of complaints against sellers they will ban you as well. It sucks we can't leave but positive feedback but thats the way it is. Amazon is just the same, you cant leave feedback for buyers at all.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by famous

paypal will always be used for ebay, its the same compnay. If you send out items with delivery confrimation or tracking as a seller you will NEVER ever loose and neither will the buyer. Paypal will side with you and reinburse the buyer out of thier pocket. I see it all the time ;)

Ebay also cans BUYERS just like sellers. If you are a new buyer or have lots of complaints against sellers they will ban you as well. It sucks we can't leave but positive feedback but thats the way it is. Amazon is just the same, you cant leave feedback for buyers at all.

i leave feedback on amazon but if i flame the product they wont post it. also they have removed contact the seller

[Spunky]

They whine when shipping is expensive.they wont buy the item if shipping is twice the cost.I offer economy but it's stated at their own risk.EBay recognizes it if you state it in the listing

[famous]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

i leave feedback on amazon but if i flame the product they wont post it. also they have removed contact the seller

Well we sell alot thier as well and people contact us all the time ;) So must be their somewhere. If you leave a product review for the seller feedback then we can have it removed, its a simple form Did one today in fact. Neg was gone in less then a hour.

Thats a huge differnece between Amazon vs Ebay. Ebay under no circumstance will they remove or edit feedback unless it contains personal info or cursewords and thats hard to get done even some times.

[96ukssob]

Good, fuck ebay

its doing two things, weeding out the scammers and small time people ripping each other off with insane shipping rates.

if ebay wants to compete they have to be more like Amazon or similar sites

[Choker]

Originally Posted by famous

paypal will always be used for ebay, its the same compnay. If you send out items with delivery confrimation or tracking as a seller you will NEVER ever loose and neither will the buyer. Paypal will side with you and reinburse the buyer out of thier pocket. I see it all the time ;)

Ebay also cans BUYERS just like sellers. If you are a new buyer or have lots of complaints against sellers they will ban you as well. It sucks we can't leave but positive feedback but thats the way it is. Amazon is just the same, you cant leave feedback for buyers at all.

I was looking at amazon to set her up there also, but it apears their fees are easy 50% more than ebays. And at first glance I see several different types of confusing fees.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by Profits of Doom

Damn I love those damn storage unit shows, I think I spent an entire Saturday once watching a marathon. I heard those shows have drove the attendance at those auctions up through the roof nationwide...

some auctions, now charge a 5 buck admission fee, because of the looky loos

[kane]

Originally Posted by JFK

some auctions, now charge a 5 buck admission fee, because of the looky loos

It doesn't surprise me. The storage companies are always looking for ways to make more money.

What sucks is if you are a serious buyer who is looking for specific things like antique furniture. You would have to pay to get in with no guarantee that there will be something for you to bid on.

[MattPIVO]

Ebay is really insane, the sellers fees are crazy plus paypal hits you as well. On top of that you don't get paid unless you provide a tracking number and it's delivered or there is positive feed back. Paypal changes their mind with me every other week on whether or not they will hold my money. What many don't realize is they are getting in some cases a week long interest free loan, that might not seem like much on your 1 item but over a couple of million they are constantly sitting on a cash pile.

[AllAboutCams]

i have given up here fees are too high when i was in school in the uk i was making about 200 pound a month from ebay buying and selling from swap markets here and know that is impossible

[anexsia]

Just got a nice laptop to throw linux on for $60 on ebay

[shinmusashi44]

I stopped selling there last year. Bullshit after bullshit, they don't give a shit about the sellers. Its 99.99% in favor for the buyer when something goes wrong.

[Mr Pheer]

I fucking love ebay... and yes you can still make a lot of money there selling digital goods and services. Sometimes its more fun than checking my AFF stats.

[2intense]

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

I fucking love ebay... and yes you can still make a lot of money there selling digital goods and services. Sometimes its more fun than checking my AFF stats.

not bad at all . LOL

[cherrylula]

Ebay really pissed me off and I refuse to sell there ever again after 10+ years of selling successfully.

I sold a baby playpen, barely used. Packed away totally clean it was hardly touched. Set up the auction really low free shipping and it took off. The asshole who bought it realized for like another $20 they could have gotten the same item new and when they received it made up total lies about the condition of the item.

Ebay didn't require any proof. This person got their money back, my paypal account was debited by ebay into the negative, and the item was returned and now is in bad condition from poor packing and they kept part of it and ebay did NOTHING. I was pretty much scammed by a buyer, and am surprised they even sent it back with the crazy messages they sent me after they received it. They claimed they went to the hospital sick from the mold on the item. LOL

And I called them several times, made threads here about this! I had not been selling much for a while and was totally blown away how hard ebay fucked me over and appealed to this lying piece of shit who fucked me over on my auction.

The item is now sitting in my garage becoming ruined, when if this mother fucker hadn't ran up my auction and regretted it, I might have actually gotten $50 to $100 for it, but they big almost to $200 and the stupid thing is that price new.

NOT MY FAULT. I really don't even see how I would have protected myself in this situation, Ebay totally fucked me dry and hard. Then all of a sudden you owe them money and they threaten you. NEVER AGAIN. lol

edit. yeah... digital goods might be the future of ebay, as this mail shit out and get fucked over isn't working. lol

[selena]

Originally Posted by Choker

I was looking at amazon to set her up there also, but it apears their fees are easy 50% more than ebays. And at first glance I see several different types of confusing fees.

I started out selling only on Ebay, and moved to Amazon pretty quickly. Now I run 3 listings on Ebay, for an item that no on else is authroized to sell on there, and that is all.

I have a Pro Merchant account on Amazon. I pay $39.99 per month for that. It's worth it, because without it, you can't get the Buy Box, and you really want to have that.

It amazes me that with the buy box I can have competing sellers with lower price + shipping, and I still get the sale.

I don't know what the fees are outside of my categories, but overall, it doesn't seem to be much more than what Ebay+Paypal fees are. It's a little higher, but you can charger higher prices as well.

It's a totally different buyer dynamic, or at least that has been my experience.

From a seller perspective, I would 10,000,000% rather sell on Amazon than screw around with Ebay.

That said, I emply the CYA method on Ebay, and have never lost a dispute. Knock on wood.

[Choker]

Originally Posted by selena

I started out selling only on Ebay, and moved to Amazon pretty quickly. Now I run 3 listings on Ebay, for an item that no on else is authroized to sell on there, and that is all.

I have a Pro Merchant account on Amazon. I pay $39.99 per month for that. It's worth it, because without it, you can't get the Buy Box, and you really want to have that.

It amazes me that with the buy box I can have competing sellers with lower price + shipping, and I still get the sale.

I don't know what the fees are outside of my categories, but overall, it doesn't seem to be much more than what Ebay+Paypal fees are. It's a little higher, but you can charger higher prices as well.

It's a totally different buyer dynamic, or at least that has been my experience.

From a seller perspective, I would 10,000,000% rather sell on Amazon than screw around with Ebay.

That said, I emply the CYA method on Ebay, and have never lost a dispute. Knock on wood.

Yeah I noticed prices on amazon are a lot higher than the same item on ebay. So you can print shipping labels from usps right off of amazon just like you can with ebay?

[selena]

Originally Posted by Choker

Yeah I noticed prices on amazon are a lot higher than the same item on ebay. So you can print shipping labels from usps right off of amazon just like you can with ebay?

I sell internationally, so I have had a Stamps.com account for a good while. It lets me print first class international postage, and I can't do that from within USPS.com. It's been so long, I am not sure, but at the time, I dont' think I could do it within Paypal.

I pay $17.99 per month for that.

Amazon now ties in to Stamps.com. If you have a stand alone account Stamps.com like I do, you do not pay additional fees on top of the postage cost to use it. You just log in Amazon, print your packing slip for the order, and buy postage at the real cost. Amazon deducts the postage cost amount from the proceeds of your order, so you aren't paying for it upfront.

If you don't have a Stamps.com account, there is some fee per postage purchase, but I can't tell you what it is.

I didn't really investigate it, as I have a stand alone store too, and need the Stamps.com account to print postage for it.