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InfoGuy · 02-04-2012, 10:46 AM

150 Paul Markham stories

DamianJ · 02-04-2012, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by InfoGuy

150 Paul Markham stories

It's the same story, he just says it 150 times.

papill0n · 02-04-2012, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

You know nothing about how much we made, the little evidence you do have you ignore.

No the whole of this board hasn't been calling me a dipshit. Just mostly loser trolls like you. Who I wasn't very impressed with what you had to offer. You didn't likeme, your assistant didn't like me, you thought I was a crap shooter. Yet you hung around me all day and then in the evening. Even when I turned the TV on to watch soccer you were to stupid to get the message. I'm not interested in your offer to shoot cheap sets of girls, to give you one of my shooters, cameras, lights, studio to earn pennies. And please. It's time you got the message AND FUCKED OFF BACK TO YOUR HOTEL. Or were you hanging on for more pasta?

Being polite to Eva is a lame excuse, about as lame as you were flying girls from Russia where they worked on webcam. For me to shoot cheap sets of while you rent an apartment to put them up in. Because shooting solo girl is illegal in Russia and webcam is legal?

For someone who knows nothing. I knew you were not worth playing nice to.

no you stupid cunt the whole board has been calling you a dipshit

do you not read any of the replies fuckhead ? go on have a look grandpa. put your glasses on or something because how the fuck you could log in here day after day and not think you are the joke of the board is beyond belief

christ you are so fucked in the head it is actually quite sad

papill0n · 02-04-2012, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

You live on government pensions - not millions you put in the bank
You've been broke and begged for money on this very forum
You're wife had to stop shooting and take a job cleaning to support you
Once the industry matured, you were left behind and failed
You've said your best year was 70k or so profit
I've been to your shitty studio
I've been to your little house
We've all watched every venture/site you have fail except your content store

No one here is thinking "wow, Paul is brilliant and he must be a millionaire"

People are thinking "wow, this guy is so dumb, every word he types brings down the collective IQ of the entire industry"

Paul Markham · 02-04-2012, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakez

The fact that you believe they create sites, let alone join pages, without testing and perfecting and such is fucking amazing. Seriously man? Do you really believe the shit that you type?

You so clearly have absolutely no clue what the point of this hostedtube program is.

Go find out why you don't know how to make sales and you might make sense one day.

So the ratio on that join page is good?

I do have a clue what the tube's about. Giving away more free porn to generate money on traffic. Not a lot but it seems that's all that's left after you clever guys took over porn. Yes I lasted 35 years and 3 years after stopping work by not knowing how to generate sales. If PR knew, they wouldn't be selling traffic to others.

Seriously do you believe the shit you type. Or do you think porn has done better since all you bright sparks took over?

Not you and squealer as prior to online porn you had to have some brains to make it in porn.

anexsia · 02-04-2012, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ

It's the same story, he just says it 150 times.

Paul Markham · 02-05-2012, 01:28 AM

So to get back to the thread and ignore the little trolls.

Paul Markham - There is nothing wrong with the tube model.

True or not?

In business it's easy to gauge the success of a tool like Tubes and its effect on the industry, so I will apply the same test.

(A) Have the introduction of porn Tubes led to more money spent for online porn? The answer is a clear no. Since 2008 we have seen more sites close, cut out affiliates, look for ways to not pay affiliates, for affiliates, designers and others leave the business. No doubt for a few Tubes have been good, but for the industry as a whole they have been bad. Soon for those that benefit from them will feel the squeeze.

[(B) Have Tubes led to more traffic online? Yes. Still traffic doesn't = $$$$ sales do. so the extra traffic has to add extra sales. It also has to first replace the sales of people who are now consuming for free that were buying. There is no evidence Tubes did this and lots of indications they haven't.

(C) Have Tubes led to more free content online? Yes and there's no disputing with this.

(D) Have Tubes led to more piracy? Yes.

(E) Have Tubes allowed some sectors of adult to profit for free or limited costs? Yes, the traffic sectors, Dating and Webcam sites are buying traffic at a fraction of the real price. They don't pay for the content that draws the surfers to their adverts and if they had to they couldn't afford the traffic. A fool recently compared the advertising of Coke on NBC. For a 30 sec slot of advertising during the Superbowl the price is $3,500,000 plus the price of making the advert. This goes a little way to pay for the Superbowl. With all the stopping and starting the advertisers pay for the content.

(F) Are Tubes easy to put up? Yes and this is the problem. The easier it is, the more who can do iit and the lower the bar is set. Pimproll have made it so easy any fool can do it. Whether any fool is going to make much money doing doing it, is still to be decided. So far it looks like they will be sending traffic for PR to take a slice out of before selling it onwards. Long term will tell whether this plan works for those participating. All we do know is selling memberships off this traffic doesn't work very well.

So now ST23 put the case for Tubes and the benefits they have brought the industry. Or anyone else and please no stupid one line replies of abuse. I know that's the level of some, but there must be some intelligent repliers here.

Paul Markham · 02-05-2012, 05:12 AM

So the case for Tubes.

(A) They are dead easy to put up or get someone else's pre-made Tube and use that.

(B) Dead easy to submit content to.

(C) Dead easy to say an unknown uploader uploaded pirated content.

(D) Allows you to give away tons of free porn for very little cost and sell ad space or traffic.

(E) FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE IT'S THE ONLY GAME LEFT IN TOWN.

Now that will be a nice in for all the trolls to tell me how they are making $1,000s everyday by blogging or their Tubes convert 1-100. And not provide a link or a clue if it's true.

Paul Markham · 02-05-2012, 06:11 AM

I rest my case.

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1056240

porno jew · 02-05-2012, 11:22 AM

no one cares.

Jakez · 02-05-2012, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

So to get back to the thread and ignore the little trolls.

porno jew · 02-05-2012, 11:51 AM

no one cares.

TheSquealer · 02-05-2012, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

So the case for Tubes.

(A) They are dead easy to put up or get someone else's pre-made Tube and use that.

(B) Dead easy to submit content to.

(C) Dead easy to say an unknown uploader uploaded pirated content.

(D) Allows you to give away tons of free porn for very little cost and sell ad space or traffic.

(E) FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE IT'S THE ONLY GAME LEFT IN TOWN.

Now that will be a nice in for all the trolls to tell me how they are making $1,000s everyday by blogging or their Tubes convert 1-100. And not provide a link or a clue if it's true.

More brilliant analysis from the only active poster here that's calling "abject failure", "retirement"

porno jew · 02-05-2012, 12:23 PM

the big tubes make more in a day then you did in your life. the end.

Paul Markham · 02-05-2012, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew

the big tubes make more in a day then you did in your life. the end.

And the porn moguls made more in a year than any big porn tube ever made.

And we made more in a day than you made in a month. So your point is?

The big Tubes have devastated porn. We're 2 of the lucky ones, we didn't spend all we earned so we could impress losers, we put money into things that would make a long term return and now I can sit here and tell you how you geniuses fucked up a whole industry with your stupidity.

No one cares what a little loser like you has to say. I annoy people, which is more than you will ever achieve. You're not important enough. You, Squawker, Jokes and a lot of other nobodies.

Thanks for the bumps guys and the stupid say nothing replies.

Where is ST23 with an intelligent reply? His thread is going nowhere with the idiots replying to me.

porno jew · 02-05-2012, 02:26 PM

you live of states benefits. fuck off. no one believes anything you say. you are a self-centered narcissist and compulsive bullshitter.

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

And the porn moguls made more in a year than any big porn tube ever made.

And we made more in a day than you made in a month. So your point is?

The big Tubes have devastated porn. We're 2 of the lucky ones, we didn't spend all we earned so we could impress losers, we put money into things that would make a long term return and now I can sit here and tell you how you geniuses fucked up a whole industry with your stupidity.

No one cares what a little loser like you has to say. I annoy people, which is more than you will ever achieve. You're not important enough. You, Squawker, Jokes and a lot of other nobodies.

Thanks for the bumps guys and the stupid say nothing replies.

Where is ST23 with an intelligent reply? His thread is going nowhere with the idiots replying to me.

papill0n · 02-05-2012, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

No one cares what a little loser like you has to say. I annoy people, which is more than you will ever achieve. You're not important enough. You, Squawker, Jokes and a lot of other nobodies.

30 years in porn and here you are paul

broke, clueless and bragging about annoying people

yep, you are a real fuckwit man

B.Barnato · 02-05-2012, 02:47 PM

Why the hate for Paul?

He is both a gentleman and a scholar who is doing this board (and this industry) a great service with his insights.

ottopottomouse · 02-05-2012, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew

you live of states benefits. fuck off. no one believes anything you say. you are a self-centered narcissist and compulsive bullshitter.

there is one person

he believes it himself

livexxx · 02-05-2012, 04:54 PM

PM still a FI

Paul Markham · 02-06-2012, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by B.Barnato

Why the hate for Paul?

He is both a gentleman and a scholar who is doing this board (and this industry) a great service with his insights.

I have no idea why. I'm obviously a tired old broken man living on State Benefits, who has to send his wife out to work washing other people's toilets. Never made any money in porn, offline or online. And now take in lodgers in our little cottage out in the fields to help buy food. Which fortunately here in the Third World is very cheap.

My ideas never have worked, never will work and far from being a scholar I'm an idiot and a troll instead of a gentleman.

So why do these wonderful mega successful people hate me so much? I'm too stupid to work that out.

ottopottomouse · 02-06-2012, 03:53 AM

Fucking lol. The gravestone in your avatar doesn't seem to help you spot when someone's taking the piss.

Paul Markham · 02-06-2012, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

Fucking lol. The gravestone in your avatar doesn't seem to help you spot when someone's taking the piss.

The words in my post don't tell you I'm taking the piss?

You need pictures to show you, so here's one.

Oh fuck it what's the point?

DamianJ · 02-06-2012, 05:02 AM

Sausage · 02-06-2012, 05:06 AM

Why do people bother trying to argue with Markham ?

He invented internet porn and even the amazing magic join links.

Paul Markham · 02-06-2012, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Sausage

Why do people bother trying to argue with Markham ?

He invented internet porn and even the amazing magic join links.

Now we have those who couldn't make it in porn commenting. Tell them why your Tube was so good you, with all your knowledge, gave it up for peanuts?

Also why you sold your sites?

Where's st23?

stocktrader23 · 02-06-2012, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Now we have those who couldn't make it in porn commenting. Tell them why your Tube was so good you, with all your knowledge, gave it up for peanuts?

Also why you sold your sites?

Where's st23?

I'm here. I got bored on the 20th wall of text and told you I'd cover one point at a time.

Jakez · 02-06-2012, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

The gravestone in your avatar

The irony never ends.

Another bump for you Paul... oh wait it's not your thread.

bean-aid · 02-06-2012, 11:43 PM

Tube Traffic from one of the biggest tube sites is converting at less then 1:500 for a site that I am managing.

It actually blew me away when I saw those stats starting to come in.

Colmike9 · 02-07-2012, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

And the porn moguls made more in a year than any big porn tube ever made.

Tell that to xhamster..

Paul Markham · 02-07-2012, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23

I'm here. I got bored on the 20th wall of text and told you I'd cover one point at a time.

= I knew by the 20th post I was losing.

You never get bored in a debate you can win.

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Originally Posted by beaner

Tube Traffic from one of the biggest tube sites is converting at less then 1:500 for a site that I am managing.

It actually blew me away when I saw those stats starting to come in.

What are the conversion rates on consumers to clicks? Pimproll was doing 1-19 to get a click. I suppose yours were similar. Still anything that 99.5% of qualified people is pretty shitty. They liked porn, liked the sample enough to look for the link and click it and 00.5% actually spent $30. And you think that's so good you got blown away!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Colmike7

Tell that to xhamster..

Have you seen their accounts? Go look at Ann Summers and Beate Uhste for what they still mange to do. I doubt if you know who owns Xhamster or if they have published accounts.

Paul Markham · 02-07-2012, 02:03 AM

So everyone is now happy to have the Pimproll Tube sending their traffic via PR to a traffic seller. St PR can get 50% of the money. Good stuff guys.

So just one query. Will the payouts be monthly, set at a minimum and how? Seems to me it's a lot of work to send out payments for $10-20 a month, or people will have to wait till it builds up to $100 and might be waiting 6 months for their $100.

Maybe Beaner should tell us more about the Tube he manages doing 1-500. PR need some help on this.

Jakez · 02-07-2012, 02:18 AM

Colmike9 · 02-07-2012, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Have you seen their accounts? Go look at Ann Summers and Beate Uhste for what they still mange to do. I doubt if you know who owns Xhamster or if they have published accounts.

xhamster.com will make more money when/if they sell the domain alone..

Paul Markham · 02-07-2012, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Colmike7

xhamster.com will make more money when/if they sell the domain alone..

And where did you get that information from?

I asked you if you had seen Xhamsters accounts. You ignored it. Now you say the domain is worth more than Ann Summers and Beate Uhste turn over or make in a year, 10 years or a month?

Look at these figures and forget the propaganda you've been fed for the last 12 years. Look at the number of shops and the turn over. Then calculate this is the turn over of most decent porn shops or even just the top tier. Their figures are from a group of shops, some good some not so good.

Then multiply it by 1,000s imagine the number of porn shops around the world. Some countries with 1,000s some with 100s.

Now think no free porn well very very little, so people had to buy to enjoy. Imagine what the turnovers were in 1995 or even later of every porn shop in the world.

And you offer a company who runs a free tube site, cams and a few other things as a comparison. With absolutely no evidence, no information, nothing but propaganda that online porn was a boom for porn.

Think one magazine selling 200,000 copies at $5 every month. $12 million turn over on one magazine title. There's another market online porn all but wiped out. Damian with absolutely no evidence, in fact he will say there's no evidence. will tell you it's BS. How he knows with no evidence is beyond me. I at least talked to editors and porn shop owners.

MaDalton · 02-07-2012, 04:39 AM

Paul, you keep mentioning Beate Uhse...

besides being a retailer and making it impossible to compare that to a tube site, you should have a look at their numbers.

26% less revenue in the first 9 months of 2011 compared to the same timeframe in 2010

and they're happy to have their loss reduced to only 4.8 million Euro

their shares are at 29 euro cents

DamianJ · 02-07-2012, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

Paul, you keep mentioning Beate Uhse...

besides being a retailer and making it impossible to compare that to a tube site, you should have a look at their numbers.

26% less revenue in the first 9 months of 2011 compared to the same timeframe in 2010

and they're happy to have their loss reduced to only 4.8 million Euro

their shares are at 29 euro cents

Don't let pesky facts spoil his fun, you meany.

TheSquealer · 02-07-2012, 05:29 AM

NEWSFLASH:

Free porn always existed online. Was always freely available. Was always complained about.

stocktrader23 · 02-07-2012, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

NEWSFLASH:

Free porn always existed online. Was always freely available. Was always complained about.

Paul Markham · 02-07-2012, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

Paul, you keep mentioning Beate Uhse...

besides being a retailer and making it impossible to compare that to a tube site, you should have a look at their numbers.

26% less revenue in the first 9 months of 2011 compared to the same timeframe in 2010

and they're happy to have their loss reduced to only 4.8 million Euro

their shares are at 29 euro cents

Yes, in 2011 they like most porn shops are on the decline. I did point it as an indication of what was made offline prior to online giving it away for free. Your point is?

Comparing retail with an advertising platform, good point. Are they just an advertising platform?

I'm pointing out the enormous amounts of money made prior to the rush to give it away for free. People are for ever comparing what the production end of porn makes and conveniently ignore they're comparing their retail sales, with a porn production companies figures. The 2 are not comparable.

However the quoting of Xhamster as a mega porn company wasn't started by me. Mike brought them up, I merely showed him a little part of the money made in porn prior to online porn. You will know of porn shops in Germany in prime locations, locations that cost a lot of money. This was repeated around the world, because of the turnover and profit.

Yes all pre recorded porn selling is today in decline. giving it away for free has devastated it.

I'm one of the lucky ones by being able to make enough in porn to retire. Many will not be so fortunate.

Yes Damian let's not let facts get in the way. As so few online porn companies have facts to base the propaganda on. Facts would leave us with so little to talk about.

DamianJ · 02-07-2012, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Facts would leave us with so little to talk about.

I'm certain sure it won't stop you talking out of your arse though.

Go and walk the jigsaw.

MaDalton · 02-07-2012, 06:18 AM

it is irrelevant what Beate Uhse ever made, they are in a different business

Paul Markham · 02-07-2012, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

it is irrelevant what Beate Uhse ever made, they are in a different business

Sorry I thought they sold porn. My mistake.

So let's work with the facts.

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26% less revenue in the first 9 months of 2011 compared to the same timeframe in 2010

26% less revenue in 3/4 of 2011 compared to 2010 3/4.

So is it conceivable that this is typical of offline porn?

You and I know how devastated the magazine business is, practically wiped out. Before 2010. So is it possible other offline sectors have suffered the same?

DVD production is according to some people who went to the last Berlin show is a shadow of previous years, you have been going for a few years. What's your observations?

Cable TV. I do know we get free channels or Private and a few others for a fraction of what it used to be. hotels don't seem to be as good a market as they used to be. I suspect premium phone lines are not the same either.

So has this decline meant an increase in online porn revenues recently?

Damian, sit down so you stop talking and start contributing.

Dog - Walked
Jigsaw - Doing it slowly.
TV - Going to watch a favorite show of mine, on every day 3.00
Lunch - Eaten
Cooking - After Eva brings me some onions.
Book - Read starting a Dickens novel later.
Trolling - Never ending job

MaDalton · 02-07-2012, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

So has this decline meant an increase in online porn revenues recently?

for a good bunch of companies: yes

and lingerie and dildos are not porn

stocktrader23 · 02-07-2012, 09:09 AM

How many pages before I win a Mercedes? Will really help pad the $3.23 I make per year on my tube.

Paul Markham · 02-07-2012, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

for a good bunch of companies: yes

Agreed.

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and lingerie and dildos are not porn

Not agreed, it's called diversification. Selling a singe item from each venue never was a good business model for most. My feelings are that these were always a sideline in the past.

I'm speaking from experience of porn shops in the 60s in Central London. A single shop would take a $1,000 in a day with no problems. Mark up was awesome. These were the days when criminals found porn shops lucrative enough to run, to bribe policemen and judges. They didn't sit around scared of a knock on the door, a new law being passed, or any of the little things that scare so many here.

In the 80s I was, with 2 employees, turning a lot of money. Selling mail order videos and I wasn't the only one. Magazine sets were worth $3,000 non exclusive, the prices never changed through the years.

And there were no end of magazines to sell to, because there were few shooters who could produce the goods. !st, 2nd, 3rd rights. Phone sex ads, covers, centre fold and then give it to Photorama to make even more money.

Production - Wholesale/distribution - Retail.

Today the Internet has wrapped it often under one company and we have the affiliates driving traffic past the shop windows. The biggest difference isn't the reach the Internet has. Because most of the countries that do buy, always did. The biggest difference is we give it away to get traffic which has always hurt sales in the porn industry. We just never saw it.

Today we know it for the truth. Because there's little else to take it from. Yes many people have seen the benefits of online porn and many have seen the harm. I've seen both and benefited and been harmed by both.

I suppose I got sick of the blabber based no concrete evidence, on propaganda and personal narrow views that online was a huge boost to porn. Try to get some offline people to agree to that.

I'm very happy, during the good years I put money into pensions. So now so long as I don't buy big flash cars, a big house or act like pimpin online guy to impress affiliates, we're fine for the rest of my life. Then my life insurance kicks in and Eva and our daughter are fine. The dog can go fend for himself.

I'll just stick around here trolling until it's gone.

stocktrader23 · 02-07-2012, 09:21 AM

Glad you're happy, has nothing to do with a new business model that you don't understand.

stocktrader23 · 02-07-2012, 09:22 AM

"What's that got to do with the price of tea in China?"

"What's that got to do with the pay for magazine sets in 1980?"

MaDalton · 02-07-2012, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Not agreed, it's called diversification.

nonsense

ottopottomouse · 02-07-2012, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23

How many pages before I win a Mercedes? Will really help pad the $3.23 I make per year on my tube.

http://www.barryboys.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=36233

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Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	So to get back to the thread and ignore the little trolls. Paul Markham - There is nothing wrong with the tube model. True or not? In business it's easy to gauge the success of a tool like Tubes and its effect on the industry, so I will apply the same test. (A) Have the introduction of porn Tubes led to more money spent for online porn? The answer is a clear no. Since 2008 we have seen more sites close, cut out affiliates, look for ways to not pay affiliates, for affiliates, designers and others leave the business. No doubt for a few Tubes have been good, but for the industry as a whole they have been bad. Soon for those that benefit from them will feel the squeeze. [(B) Have Tubes led to more traffic online? Yes. Still traffic doesn't = $$$$ sales do. so the extra traffic has to add extra sales. It also has to first replace the sales of people who are now consuming for free that were buying. There is no evidence Tubes did this and lots of indications they haven't. (C) Have Tubes led to more free content online? Yes and there's no disputing with this. (D) Have Tubes led to more piracy? Yes. (E) Have Tubes allowed some sectors of adult to profit for free or limited costs? Yes, the traffic sectors, Dating and Webcam sites are buying traffic at a fraction of the real price. They don't pay for the content that draws the surfers to their adverts and if they had to they couldn't afford the traffic. A fool recently compared the advertising of Coke on NBC. For a 30 sec slot of advertising during the Superbowl the price is $3,500,000 plus the price of making the advert. This goes a little way to pay for the Superbowl. With all the stopping and starting the advertisers pay for the content. (F) Are Tubes easy to put up? Yes and this is the problem. The easier it is, the more who can do iit and the lower the bar is set. Pimproll have made it so easy any fool can do it. Whether any fool is going to make much money doing doing it, is still to be decided. So far it looks like they will be sending traffic for PR to take a slice out of before selling it onwards. Long term will tell whether this plan works for those participating. All we do know is selling memberships off this traffic doesn't work very well. So now ST23 put the case for Tubes and the benefits they have brought the industry. Or anyone else and please no stupid one line replies of abuse. I know that's the level of some, but there must be some intelligent repliers here. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

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Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	So the case for Tubes. (A) They are dead easy to put up or get someone else's pre-made Tube and use that. (B) Dead easy to submit content to. (C) Dead easy to say an unknown uploader uploaded pirated content. (D) Allows you to give away tons of free porn for very little cost and sell ad space or traffic. (E) FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE IT'S THE ONLY GAME LEFT IN TOWN. Now that will be a nice in for all the trolls to tell me how they are making $1,000s everyday by blogging or their Tubes convert 1-100. And not provide a link or a clue if it's true. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70 Last edited by Paul Markham; 02-05-2012 at 05:26 AM..

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02-05-2012, 02:47 PM	#168
B.Barnato So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,618	Why the hate for Paul? He is both a gentleman and a scholar who is doing this board (and this industry) a great service with his insights.

02-06-2012, 03:53 AM	#172
ottopottomouse She is ugly, bad luck. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 13,177	Fucking lol. The gravestone in your avatar doesn't seem to help you spot when someone's taking the piss. __________________ ↑ see post ↑ 13101

02-06-2012, 05:02 AM	#174
DamianJ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: A magical land Posts: 15,808

02-06-2012, 05:06 AM	#175
Sausage Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 3,012	Why do people bother trying to argue with Markham ? He invented internet porn and even the amazing magic join links.

02-06-2012, 11:43 PM	#179
bean-aid So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: the land of woke sleuths Posts: 16,493	Tube Traffic from one of the biggest tube sites is converting at less then 1:500 for a site that I am managing. It actually blew me away when I saw those stats starting to come in.

02-07-2012, 02:03 AM	#182
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	So everyone is now happy to have the Pimproll Tube sending their traffic via PR to a traffic seller. St PR can get 50% of the money. Good stuff guys. So just one query. Will the payouts be monthly, set at a minimum and how? Seems to me it's a lot of work to send out payments for $10-20 a month, or people will have to wait till it builds up to $100 and might be waiting 6 months for their $100. Maybe Beaner should tell us more about the Tube he manages doing 1-500. PR need some help on this. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

02-07-2012, 02:18 AM	#183
Jakez Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: oddfuturewolfgangkillthemall!!!!!!! Posts: 5,656	__________________ [email protected] - jakezdumb - 573689400 Killuminati

02-07-2012, 04:39 AM	#186
MaDalton I am Amazing Content! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 39,828	Paul, you keep mentioning Beate Uhse... besides being a retailer and making it impossible to compare that to a tube site, you should have a look at their numbers. 26% less revenue in the first 9 months of 2011 compared to the same timeframe in 2010 and they're happy to have their loss reduced to only 4.8 million Euro their shares are at 29 euro cents __________________ AmazingContent.com - providing only the best content and service since 2003 Monetize your content on Veegaz.com - one of Germanies largest VOD sites Got German traffic? We convert it into money for you! Skype: madalton02826 - Email: oltecconsult [at] gmail [dot] com

02-07-2012, 05:29 AM	#188
TheSquealer BANNED Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In Your Head Posts: 25,158	NEWSFLASH: Free porn always existed online. Was always freely available. Was always complained about. __________________ . Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens. Rochard

02-07-2012, 06:18 AM	#192
MaDalton I am Amazing Content! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 39,828	it is irrelevant what Beate Uhse ever made, they are in a different business __________________ AmazingContent.com - providing only the best content and service since 2003 Monetize your content on Veegaz.com - one of Germanies largest VOD sites Got German traffic? We convert it into money for you! Skype: madalton02826 - Email: oltecconsult [at] gmail [dot] com

02-07-2012, 09:09 AM	#195
stocktrader23 Let's do some business. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The dirty south. Posts: 18,781	How many pages before I win a Mercedes? Will really help pad the $3.23 I make per year on my tube. __________________ Hands Free Adult - Join Once, Earn For Life "I try to make a habit of bouncing my eyes up to the face of a beautiful woman, and often repeat “not mine” in my head or even verbally. She’s not mine. God has her set aside. She’s not mine. She’s His little girl, and she needs me to fight for her by keeping my eyes where they should be."

02-07-2012, 09:21 AM	#197
stocktrader23 Let's do some business. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The dirty south. Posts: 18,781	Glad you're happy, has nothing to do with a new business model that you don't understand. __________________ Hands Free Adult - Join Once, Earn For Life "I try to make a habit of bouncing my eyes up to the face of a beautiful woman, and often repeat “not mine” in my head or even verbally. She’s not mine. God has her set aside. She’s not mine. She’s His little girl, and she needs me to fight for her by keeping my eyes where they should be."

02-07-2012, 09:22 AM	#198
stocktrader23 Let's do some business. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The dirty south. Posts: 18,781	"What's that got to do with the price of tea in China?" "What's that got to do with the pay for magazine sets in 1980?" __________________ Hands Free Adult - Join Once, Earn For Life "I try to make a habit of bouncing my eyes up to the face of a beautiful woman, and often repeat “not mine” in my head or even verbally. She’s not mine. God has her set aside. She’s not mine. She’s His little girl, and she needs me to fight for her by keeping my eyes where they should be."