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Old 09-26-2011, 05:44 PM   #1
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70% of Food stamp recipients have NO EARNED INCOME (WSJ news)

Food stamp usage continues to rise! Where are the shovel ready jobs?

Source: http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2011/...earned-income/

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Some 70% of households that relied on food stamps last year had no earned income, a new US government report shows.

More than 40 million individuals and nearly 19 million households tapped the food stamp program in 2010, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture. While the recession technically ended in 2009, a sluggish economic recovery left millions out of work or underemployed and leaning on the government for assistance last year.

The Agriculture Department?s annual snapshot on the characteristics of food stamp households, released Friday, shows that seven in 10 households receiving food stamps had no earned income last year, though many got other forms of government benefits.
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in other news poor people have no money.
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Just think if we didn't have this social garbage, ie: tax the rich and give to the poor program, we would have saved all that money and let those 50+ million people starve to death. Yes, most prob had jobs before, yes they paid taxes before, yes I know the mass majority are positive on the gov balance, but hey... money saved people & reduction in gov size, bonus! /teaBagger
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in other news poor people have no money.
and/or pay no taxes....
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Food stamp usage continues to rise! Where are the shovel ready jobs?

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The people that would fill those shovel ready jobs are too busy blowing Obama's smoke up everybody's asses.
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Just think if we didn't have this social garbage, ie: tax the rich and give to the poor program, we would have saved all that money and let those 50+ million people starve to death. Yes, most prob had jobs before, yes they paid taxes before, yes I know the mass majority are positive on the gov balance, but hey... money saved people & reduction in gov size, bonus! /teaBagger
The poor class is growing faster than the working class can support them
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Just think if we didn't have this social garbage, ie: tax the rich and give to the poor program, we would have saved all that money and let those 50+ million people starve to death. Yes, most prob had jobs before, yes they paid taxes before, yes I know the mass majority are positive on the gov balance, but hey... money saved people & reduction in gov size, bonus! /teaBagger
That's exactly what we need, 50+ million less people spending so that our businesses can downsize.
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So only 30% of the working poor are receiving food stamps...which is probably about a full 180 turn of events...in the past four years or so.
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Obama's trickel down poverty is working great!
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This is pure bullshit... I'm not sure about every state, but here you HAVE to be working at least 20 hrs/wk to qualify for food stamps. Only exceptions are when you are 6+ months pregnant or on soc. sec. or some other disability program. If you are over 21, out of school, and not working, they make you attend job prep classes 4+ hrs a day to recieve benefits... and EVEN THEN, you only recieve them for 3 months in a lifetime (that used to be each year).

So I just love it when people bitch about shit they know nothing about.
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The poor class is growing faster than the working class can support them
The poor class contributed once as well, statistically almost all Americans are net-positive with the Gov, ie: the gov owes us all money. That's why you pay into this shit your entire life.... at that, the top .01% have enough wealth to cover the rest of us (if it really came down to that), so no worries.
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That's exactly what we need, 50+ million less people spending so that our businesses can downsize.
In a TeaBaggers world that is a bonus... it means I'll get to keep more of my money in my pocket, which is far more important to a TeaBagger / Conservative than a human life they've never met.

TeaBaggers cheer when people die without insurance, power to the people.
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Get all the illegals out and most of those people could find work.. But most of those people don't want to work. Sucking that gov tit is easier.
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This is pure bullshit... I'm not sure about every state, but here you HAVE to be working at least 20 hrs/wk to qualify for food stamps. Only exceptions are when you are 6+ months pregnant or on soc. sec. or some other disability program. If you are over 21, out of school, and not working, they make you attend job prep classes 4+ hrs a day to recieve benefits... and EVEN THEN, you only recieve them for 3 months in a lifetime (that used to be each year).

So I just love it when people bitch about shit they know nothing about.
Which State?

Food stamps are fed controlled, and are monitored by the State, a single fed bank handles all the food stamp money. Every state has extended them, the fed forced it, it's not state money so they have no control over it. From what I understand it's all based on income, not a job... you can have income coming in from your parents, enough to cover bills, etc... but not enough to cover the entire food cost, so you get some help - no job required, as you have an income.
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Get all the illegals out and most of those people could find work.. But most of those people don't want to work. Sucking that gov tit is easier.
Yeah Arizona and Oklahoma thought that would work..... both were very wrong. You can hire a lot of illegals for the cost of one real American employee, and those illegals, do just as good if not better of a job, thus 4-5x the production, so reality is... less illegals means less work after the corp downsizes from the slowdown.
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That's exactly what we need, 50+ million less people spending so that our businesses can downsize.
That's the reality that many people don't see.

If we cut benefits to these people then the grocery store lays off employees because
nobody has money to buy.

And of course the grocery store is owned by rich people who want to cut government
programs so they can save taxes.
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Yeah Arizona and Oklahoma thought that would work..... both were very wrong. You can hire a lot of illegals for the cost of one real American employee, and those illegals, do just as good if not better of a job, thus 4-5x the production, so reality is... less illegals means less work after the corp downsizes from the slowdown.
They do GREAT basic labor that's for sure. If they came here legally I wouldn't have a problem with them. They think it's a fun game playing with the border patrol.
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That's the reality that many people don't see.

If we cut benefits to these people then the grocery store lays off employees because
nobody has money to buy.

And of course the grocery store is owned by rich people who want to cut government
programs so they can save taxes.
Pretty much mirrors Dept of Ag secretary Vilsack's thesis that the Food Stamp program IS a Stimulus program...
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They do GREAT basic labor that's for sure. If they came here legally I wouldn't have a problem with them. They think it's a fun game playing with the border patrol.
Basic labor or not, that's the jobs they do thus the jobs Americans would replace. The problem with that is, 5 illegals does not mean 5 american jobs... with extra labor costs, taxes, it's more like 1 american replaces 5-10 illegals, just not labor wise. You just aren't going to get Americans to work farms for $20 a day in 110 degree heat for 12 hour days, for 3 months straight. And we all like our food costs being as low as they are.... so hiring Americans, would not only bankrupt the farm, it would bankrupt most Americans too.

I once cared about Illegals... when I thought they cost us money, but now I understand that's complete bullshit, that even sales taxes alone puts people on a net positive for services, that's before the increase in corp growth/taxes, due to the extra low cost labor.

In short.... they aren't the problem, never have been, never will be, and removing 100% of them will solve no problems, what so ever.
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Pretty much mirrors Dept of Ag secretary Vilsack's thesis that the Food Stamp program IS a Stimulus program...
The results of it works like a stimulus program, however it works more like a deferment than a stimulus, the money you put in is the money you take out.

Almost every single person on unemployment & food stamps due to the recession is net positive with the Gov and State... meaning the Gov/State owes them money, they don't take "our" money and give it to them.

That is after all, why all of us pay in to this.... young, old, new worker, lifetime worker, all of us.
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I have always said they should have to work for it.. Clean streets of trash etc..
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I have always said they should have to work for it.. Clean streets of trash etc..
So after paying into unemployment and welfare programs your entire life.... YOUR money basically... you feel that you should also work, for YOUR money - again?
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Almost 100% had a job that paid for those things at one time....
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It's friggin insurance.

If you buy home owner's, car, life or business insurance. No one made you, except basic car insurance. When you have a claim you file. No one bitches. There are people who abuse the system. Especially fire insurance on failing businesses. But in every system there will be fraud. So how come no one says stop car insurance because the govt. demands I have it. That's because you are more likely to be hit by someone who doesn't have insurance if it wasn't required. ow many failing restaurants seem to have fires?
Social security and unemployment are insurance policies that the people who collect paid into. Granted, there are people who abuse the system, but the majority do not.
Food stamps aren't quite insurance, but a lifeline for people, short-term or long term in a bad situation. Some are the working poor, some are recently divorced stay at home mothers who never worked outside the home.Some are multi-generation welfare families. Some of that, the parents taught their children no better, some is just bad luck, some is the oppression of whites against people of color.
Food stamps are also issued to any family, no matter how rich, if they are foster parents or adopt a child in need.
Read some of Jim Thompson's (Grifters) autobiographical books, his family went overnight in the depression from super rich to starving.
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