SmokeyTheBear

that was between 1979 - 1998

either way for the last 3 decades malamutes have been in the top 5 most dangerous breeds by order of fatalities.. several children killed , some attacked even after death

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we can start a thread for malamutes as well. this thread is about pit bulls. simple pet or the animal equivalent of a dirty bomb?

Vendzilla

Do you jump when the shadows move?

I think you should deal with your cynophobia some place other than GFY!

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SmokeyTheBear

silly question, there are countless things more dangerous.. dogs are dogs, they do what they do.. people should treat them for what they are.

Bicycles aren't inherently dangerous , it is what you do with them and how you use them... just like everything else..

despite the hundreds maybe thousands of deaths on bicycles, your average "ban pitbulls" moron would still climb on a bicycle without a care in the world..

All dogs have the capability of killing someone, period end of story. Treat and train yours safely and you won't have a problem. Treat every dog that you don't know as dangerous.

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rip raster

dude you are an idiot!! an Alaskan Malamute attacked my pit bull and after I split them up it attacked me. My pit bull lay down like I told him to and stayed put until I had the other dog submitted, he has never been the aggressor in any fights and shies away from them when possible. It is all in the training/handling of the dogs, that goes for any dog. A properly socialized and trained pit bull can be the best dog in the world. On the other hand they could also be a huge menace in the wrong hands as well, much like many other things in the wrong hands.

rip raster

there have actually been quiute a few other dog breeds that have attacked my dog and he hasn't killed any of them and for the most part tries to get away if he can, maybe you can explain that to me?

LadyMischief

More people are actually attacked by small dogs, they are just not as reported, because people tend to put their faces near to little dogs, and children tend to be around them more. Just because a few dogs of a breed are bad, doesn't mean the breed is bad. The same fear and stereotypes used to surround German Shepherds, and where is that now?

It's always a matter of training and discipline with dogs. Most of the time people don't even know when they are being "threatening" to a dog in dogspeak.

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GatorB

If you leave a gun in your yard someone will find it and pick it up. Perhaps a child. And I'm not sure where your jew crack is coming from. You're racist.

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RebelR

I would argue that you are one of the more responsible owners out there, Unfortunately pit-bulls play into a specific lifestyle image. Usually some urban asshole who likes to walk his dog down the street on tow chains, looking gangsta, because he saw it on MTV. Its those assholes who give the dog its negative image. I think they are among the more dangerous breeds out there, along with the Rotti, German Sheppard, Cane Corso, and Dobermann Pincer. I had a Doberman that we did aggression, obedience and Search and Rescue training with. He was a fantastic and loving dog, great with kids, small animals yadda yadda and was still intact. But we were always vigilant not to have him in a situation where something could have happened. If I said "Leave it" the dog would disregard whatever he perceived as being of interest, end of story. That's where most dog owners fail, regardless of breed. Little training, and little regard not to put their dog in a situation where shit could go wrong.

The moral of this thread is that these dogs aren't for everyone. And breeders (reputable ones) should be held responsible for the actions of the assholes they sell to)

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most dog owners have what is know as "dog owner bias." they are unable to see their dog's behavior objectively. they are usually quoted in the news saying stuff like "he's such a good dog" or "that was very out of character" after their pet kills granny.

shade001

The dogs aren't the problem. It's the pussy ass people walking around these days. When I was growing up there were plenty of mean ass dogs that would eat you a new one, you just didn't go near their yard. If one got out and bit someone you shot the fucking thing and that was the end of it.

Now all these pussy liberals are afraid of dogs. Good. I have a mean dog that WILL bite your ass, stay the fuck off my property and you won't have any reason to cry.

Btw, a pit bull bit me once. I punched the side of his head a couple of times and he went off and hid under the porch. Hurt my hand though something fierce.

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Vendzilla

Funny how people of no imagination always fall back to statements with absolutly no substance, not unlike their regular posting offerings

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shade001

I had a job delivering to people's houses and I never once had a problem with pitt bulls or any big dog except one nutty German Shepard that was chained up. The little dogs, a lot of them went absolutely bezerk when I got there. Pretty much frothing at the mouth.

Big dogs would bark and then a few seconds later they'd be rubbing against my leg.

I speak dog pretty good, though. Dogs like me.

porno jew

i think i made a great case for the outlawing of pit bulls.

shade001

Also, I have been around 20-30 pitt bulls in the last five years or so. All of them were sweet dogs except for one. That's the only dog that ever attacked me in my life.

I can't say the same for poodles. Let's outlaw poodles.

GatorB

Any animal will turn wild if left alone. what is the point? are you going to tell me fire is hot and water is wet now?

GatorB

I think you made a case for outlawing you from posting on the internet.

Vendzilla

I have one in my house.

So thinking that you're thinking is a mute point.

Outlawing them means killing them, you're an asshole.

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think about that

dallasnovelty

That is Hilarious LOL

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No, I said...

then you said...

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But yeah, fire is hot though... if you didn't know. Water is wet... and glass is nothing more than hard liquid

Vendzilla

I first saw this over 35 years ago when my step dad brought it home. Still love the EPA part of it.

Thing is anyone that wants to get rid of an entire breed based on some attacks are the kind of people that want to see what's in that cartoon. It's complete lunacy.

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rip raster

I have seen you quote a bunch of BS that you read somewhere, nowhere have I seen that you have had any type of negative personal experiences with pit bulls. I have had plenty of negative experiences with other breeds of dog attacking my pit bull and or myself and you don't see me calling for a ban of all poodles, German shepherds etc.

and you never did answer my question of why my pit bull does not kill these other animals when they attack him because as you say all pit bulls are monsters that will rip anything apart if let loose???

try not to create a problem where there is none

bDok

I don't say get rid of them. However, I don't trust them for one second unless I personally know the owner and he is around. Then after I've spent some time with the dog do I open up to it. Otherwise I just stay away.

Around me a lot of times I'll see a girl getting walked by her pitt at the beach. I generally move out of the way until they pass. If that dog freaked there is no way she would be able to hold it back. I just play it safe and try to not be around them.

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trevesty

I'd agree with that, mostly because most people are idiots. It's much like the hood rats saying Jamal is such a good boy after he shot 5 people in a drive-by.

However, a smart person is capable of being objective. For example, I adopted a pit from the local shelter about a year ago and it was an absolutely terrible dog.. took him back within 2 weeks. My GSD is quite the opposite. More well-behaved than I am.

Vendzilla

Which can be said about any breed.

But let me ask you this, given the idiots that think all Pit Bulls are dangerous, what dog would you get to protect your family? I have one running around our house and I feel safer knowing that if someone looking over our fence thinking they were going to try and break in and saw the pit, they would move on to the next house.

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think about that

rip raster

you really should quit talking out of your ass especially when you have no idea what you are talking about. My pit bull is extremely well behaved and trained. I used to have a black lab that was not, I was the first to admit that he was not. He was super loving to all people and to small dogs but any larger dog he would attack, so when out in public he was always leashed and there were never any problems.


you should try making up some more facts now to try and prove your point it still won't change the truth though

rip raster

I don't trust any dog that isn't my own no matter what the breed

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Vendzilla

You know what they, don't worry about the dog, beware of owner

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JenniDahling

My dogs are both part pit mixes I got from the pound. One of them has also been attacked by thug's 2 pits at the dog park, who thought it was funny to see his 2 pits go after my smaller dog (and by smaller I mean 65 lbs). Luckily my bigger dog went over and had to regulate. He pulled one down by the neck and held it on the ground just to establish dominance than did that with the other one. I've seen good pits there who had great social manners as well as several other pitts who have bitten or attacked other dogs. In all it comes down to the individual dog and the way it is treated when it is young.

I had another pit lab mix back in the day who was the coolest dog ever. While I don't believe the race of dog should be eliminated, I do think there should be more regulations on owning a pitt as well as licensing and training, as well as mandatory sterilization of adult males. In most states to own less dangerous animals like capuchin monkeys, store bought reptiles, etc you are required a gaming license and/or certification.

According to bite data, rottweilers are close behind pits.

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OneHungLo

It's all in how they are raised?

The Pits were developed for blood sports: Bull baiting, bear baiting, and later, dog fighting. If you have any knowledge about the breed you can't refute this.

With that said you cannot train INSTINCT or GENETICS out of a dog.

Facts are facts, statistics or not. There is much too much information to back up the fact that they are more dangerous and have brutally attacked more times than other breeds. It doesn't matter what site you are reading.

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white trash and ghetto gangsters love these dogs usually because they are involved in some kind of criminal enterprise or fucked over people so much they need a dangerous dog to protect them from retribution.

so yeah, maybe the owners have something to do with how they act.

still i doubt the dalai lama feels the need to have a pit bull.

blackmonsters

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Vendzilla

The American pit bull terrier is the product of interbreeding between terriers and a breed of bulldogs to produce a dog that combined the gameness of the terrier with the strength and athleticism of the bulldog. These dogs were initially bred in England, Ireland, and Scotland, and arrived in the United States with immigrants from these countries. In the United States, these dogs were used as catch dogs for semi-wild cattle and hogs, to hunt, to drive livestock, and as family companions. Some have been selectively bred for their fighting prowess..

Maybe stop talking out of your ass?

Dalai Lama? Dude, you should get out of the house and see what the real world is like, because you have a really bad perception right now.

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OneHungLo

Maybe stop being an ass?

From the pitbull rescue - link
"it?s unfortunate that one of the original purposes of the pit bull was dog fighting, but it is a fact that cannot be denied or ignored. Even more unfortunate is the fact that they are still chosen for this purpose, even though it is illegal in all fifty states ..."

from Pit bulls on the web - link
"Pit Bulls have been selectively bred to fight for more than a century. If they will not fight, they are eliminated from the gene pool. "

shade001

So only white trash own pit bulls, lol? What sheltered lives some people live. I'm hearing a lot about something someone READ or HEARD but very little about being around those supposedly crazed killers known as pitt bulls.

I see several pitt bulls about once a month. They don't know me and are largely ignored by a dumbass relative of mine. Every time I come over I go back where these 'dangerous killers' are and talk to them and pet them. Two are very shy and have to be coaxed over to me. The third waits until she is sure I'm going where she is and then launches herself at me and loves on me as long as I will stand there.

Since they get little attention their 'killer genes' should make them rip out my throat, I suppose, but as usual reality doesn't match up with the misconceptions of those who don't bother finding out what life is really about. I've been around every dog you can think of, pitt bulls act no different as a species than any other dog.

It's irresponsible owners who are the problem. Big dogs who could be aggressive should be kept away from people.....in the city anyway......no matter if they are German Shepards, pitt bulls or Dobermans, what have you. Mind you, I've never had a problem with any dog but one in my life and it was easily dealt with. Just use common sense.

Hey, guess what? Dogs are potentially dangerous but you know what is more dangerous? People who don't know anything about dogs, don't know how to handle dogs, read dog behavior or more importantly know how to make big dogs back the fuck off.

And because they can't handle the real world these people want to kill what they are afraid of. Sad. What is ironic is these seem to be the same people who are PETA lovers and think little fish in some mountain stream should have the same rights as people.

I'd rather get rid of stupid people than pitt bulls. Pitt bull dogs at least have some use. They're good pets. Affectionate and friendly.

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marlboroack

I say we shoot all chuchuwawa in the head for having a fucking weird ass name

porno jew

http://pitbullattacks.org/ very eye opening site. puts it in perspective.

http://www.dogsbite.org/victim-realities-funds.htm feel free to donate to victims. i have.

Vendzilla

Shit, you can find any slant you want on the net, Who The Fuck do you think you are preaching too anyways, http://www.pbrc.net/breeding.html

It is estimated that up to 200 Pit Bulls are killed EVERY DAY in Los Angeles County, CA, shelters alone because there are not enough homes for them. Imagine the number across the entire United States...

Many people have no idea how desperate the situation is for millions of homeless companion animals, especially pit bulls. These dogs have more against them than any other breed. They are regularly maligned by the media, feared and misunderstood by the public, too often owned by abusive or irresponsible individuals, innocent victims of kill policies in shelters, and the target of breed specific legislation and breed bans.

Every year over 20 million animals end up homeless. Over 15 million of them are killed (euthanized is the nice term) in dog shelters. Roughly 30% of impounded pets are reclaimed, adopted or rescued. The remaining 70% are destroyed. Many more die from disease, starvation, animal attacks and cars! Anyone who sees these statistics must agree that not neutering an animal is irresponsible!

For homeless pit bulls the death sentence is almost always automatic.

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Vendzilla

I have something very intelligent to say to those that think Pit Bulls are dangerous and should be outlawed

Ignorance is more dangerous

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OY

Love you too bud - but, this is not about ignorance from the opponents of PitBulls. I see there is a lot of emotions attached to the breed, but the emotions goes both ways. It is a breed that is bred to FIGHT. Why do we need such a breed if not for just that, to fight?

My suggestion is NOT to kill all the pitbulls in the world, but to spay and neuter them so that they slowly "go away". Not to kill your current "pet".

I know this will be controversial, but this is my true feelings about this subject and breed.

IF it was so that all pitbulls were bred the "right way" - only breed the mild mannered ones, well, then the breed would maybe move into not being "fighting dogs" anymore. Now that would be something! But unfortunately that is as real as utopia.

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My girlfriends blue nose pitbull is one of the nicest dogs I've ever met. He thinks he's smaller than he is and is always trying to sit on your lap and cuddle. My german shepherd is much more aggressive.

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