So my daughter brings her snot nose crabby son over this morning...

[V_RocKs]

But I really can't blame him since he is 2 years old and therefor doesn't lay down the law on when it is time for bed. I guess they let him stay up until 2am while they made Easter eggs when she got off work at midnight.

I don't understand parents these fucking days... Even my own fucking daughter. Now her son is a complete mess of nerves and mom is complaining to him about his complaining like it is his fault. I so want to take her "boyfriend" outside right now and just beat the living shit out of him... Even if it wasn't his fault.

[ottopottomouse]

Blame her parents.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

Blame her parents.

[Agent 488]

enjoy your holidays.

[LeRoy]

Wow years old and up @ 2am. Sure when you're a bit older but not 2.

[brassmonkey]

call doctor phil monday. i have 5 kids and they all had terrible twos. its your grandson dude her son that's fucking funny! i have one grandson i love him very much

[Oracle Porn]

mother, 2 year old son, boyfriend
something doesn't fit there.

[NaughtyRob]

My 3 yr old son is on a schedule, in bed at 9 pm every night. He has manners and is very well behaved. It helps that my 20 yr old son still lives at home, he's a big help.

[GameForAdult]

You should be happy to have healthy kids and not cry yourself like a baby

[goldassets]

i didn't even know you had any kids much less your kids have kids

[ManuteBol]

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

Blame her parents.

[~Ray]

some people's kids

[Ciao bella]

Originally Posted by Oracle Porn

mother, 2 year old son, boyfriend
something doesn't fit there.

[L-Pink]

Up your alcohol intake, everything will be fine.

[Dejan]

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

Blame her parents.

[JustDaveXxx]

My daughter is 3 and I'm still dealing with that terrible 2's thing. It was really bad. Throwing random fits in the store, saying "No", etc.

I was abused physically and beaten by my mothers random boyfriends, growing up. So i never yelled at my daughter and I would never hit her like i got hit.


Solution: Spankings!!

I hated doing it and never did it out of anger. Spanked her a total of 3 times and it worked wonders. All i do is count to 3 and at 2 she is listening and following directions.


Night and day difference spankings have made. Now i just use the threat of a spanking and she snaps into line. Its like magic.


I will be the 1st to tell you that raising a child is no joke serious work. My girlfriend is a full-time mom and works with my daughter everyday. We have no grandparents or uncles, or relatives helping out with baby sitting.


I could not imagine raising a kid by myself. One wrong move in raising my daughter, she will be in porn. Thats how I look at it.


My girlfriend is pretty awesome at setting up family things to do every week with kids. If it were me alone, I would suck as a parent. I now really understand the value of both parents.


I am grateful for all I have and will be coming to this thread for new ways of looking at things as a parrent.

[munki]

That's the beauty of being grandpa... you get to sit, laugh and watch with the smug "I told you it'd bite you in the ass someday" knowing glance.

[goldassets]

Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx

My daughter is 3 and I'm still dealing with that terrible 2's thing. It was really bad. Throwing random fits in the store, saying "No", etc.

I was abused physically and beaten by my mothers random boyfriends, growing up. So i never yelled at my daughter and I would never hit her like i got hit.


Solution: Spankings!!

I hated doing it and never did it out of anger. Spanked her a total of 3 times and it worked wonders. All i do is count to 3 and at 2 she is listening and following directions.


Night and day difference spankings have made. Now i just use the threat of a spanking and she snaps into line. Its like magic.


I will be the 1st to tell you that raising a child is no joke serious work. My girlfriend is a full-time mom and works with my daughter everyday. We have no grandparents or uncles, or relatives helping out with baby sitting.


I could not imagine raising a kid by myself. One wrong move in raising my daughter, she will be in porn. Thats how I look at it.


My girlfriend is pretty awesome at setting up family things to do every week with kids. If it were me alone, I would suck as a parent. I now really understand the value of both parents.


I am grateful for all I have and will be coming to this thread for new ways of looking at things as a parrent.

so you hit your children?

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Great thread!

ADG

[LeRoy]

Night and day difference spankings have made. Now i just use the threat of a spanking and she snaps into line. Its like magic.

This works for me too. My daughter is a hell raiser. My wife didnt like spankings but this morning I heard it happening.

You got a nip it quick or you'll have a whiny 6 or 7 year old. Or worse a horrible and un-ruley teen. Kinda like i was what I was young.

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx

I was abused physically and beaten by my mothers random boyfriends, growing up. So i never yelled at my daughter and I would never hit her like i got hit.


Solution: Spankings!!

[Deej]

Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx

My daughter is 3 and I'm still dealing with that terrible 2's thing. It was really bad. Throwing random fits in the store, saying "No", etc.

I was abused physically and beaten by my mothers random boyfriends, growing up. So i never yelled at my daughter and I would never hit her like i got hit.


Solution: Spankings!!

I hated doing it and never did it out of anger. Spanked her a total of 3 times and it worked wonders. All i do is count to 3 and at 2 she is listening and following directions.


Night and day difference spankings have made. Now i just use the threat of a spanking and she snaps into line. Its like magic.


I will be the 1st to tell you that raising a child is no joke serious work. My girlfriend is a full-time mom and works with my daughter everyday. We have no grandparents or uncles, or relatives helping out with baby sitting.


I could not imagine raising a kid by myself. One wrong move in raising my daughter, she will be in porn. Thats how I look at it.


My girlfriend is pretty awesome at setting up family things to do every week with kids. If it were me alone, I would suck as a parent. I now really understand the value of both parents.


I am grateful for all I have and will be coming to this thread for new ways of looking at things as a parrent.

Originally Posted by goldassets

so you hit your children?

Sounds to me like Dave has it just right.

If you define a spanking as hitting then yes... kids are hit and need to be more often. So many parents are afraid these days of punishing their children even in the most right ways.

I blame the jews...

[Deej]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

HUUUUUUGE difference in abuse and proper punishment...

[scubadiver626]

For the guy using spanking, timeout work just as well. We went to Disney Hong Kong with 3 and 4 year olds. I simply said 'time out' at immigration and they sat quietly. Usually its more formal but it works without having to beat fear into them.

[Deej]

Originally Posted by scubadiver626

For the guy using spanking, timeout work just as well. We went to Disney Hong Kong with 3 and 4 year olds. I simply said 'time out' at immigration and they sat quietly. Usually its more formal but it works without having to beat fear into them.

again there are differences in each punishment.

It of course depends on the severity of the infraction.

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by scubadiver626

For the guy using spanking, timeout work just as well. We went to Disney Hong Kong with 3 and 4 year olds. I simply said 'time out' at immigration and they sat quietly. Usually its more formal but it works without having to beat fear into them.

Time outs have work perfectly for me. I do the count to three thing. By the time I am done saying "one" my kid is already off to do what I told them. The trick is to actually give them a time out the second you hit the count of 3.

[JustDaveXxx]

Originally Posted by goldassets

so you hit your children?

Spank. The 3 or four little hits that go on her butt is less than me giving a boring speaker a curtsey clap when he is done speaking.

I dont yell. And i dont ever loose my temper. The 3 times I spanked my daughter I was not mad or upset. It was one of those things that i calculated very carefully.

As a resault of those 3 times that I did spank her she has been night and day different. Now when she misbehaves all I have to do is count to 3. She immediately stops what she is doing. Her 1st spanking was 4 month ago and her last spanking was 6 weeks ago.


Never spanked her before she was 3. I did not believe she would understand why I was spanking her. Before she was two, she was an angel. Perfect in every way. And prior to 3 and before spankings she was an absolute terror.


As I have learned in the last 3 years, you need to correct your kids early and not out of anger. If you dont... I have not gotten that far yet.

Originally Posted by Deej

Sounds to me like Dave has it just right.

If you define a spanking as hitting then yes... kids are hit and need to be more often. So many parents are afraid these days of punishing their children even in the most right ways.

I blame the jews...

I was one of those that thought spankings were bad and time outs were the way to go. I promised myself I would never spank my kid. When you get ran over time in and time again, day in day out , it sux. I learned there is a right way and a wrong way to spank your child and it does not work.

SPANKINGS!!! Work!

Like i said, before 3 or 4 smacks on the butt with a stern voice will keep your daughter straight and off of the "POLE".

[Due]

Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx

My daughter is 3 and I'm still dealing with that terrible 2's thing. It was really bad. Throwing random fits in the store, saying "No", etc.

I was abused physically and beaten by my mothers random boyfriends, growing up. So i never yelled at my daughter and I would never hit her like i got hit.


Solution: Spankings!!

I hated doing it and never did it out of anger. Spanked her a total of 3 times and it worked wonders. All i do is count to 3 and at 2 she is listening and following directions.


Night and day difference spankings have made. Now i just use the threat of a spanking and she snaps into line. Its like magic.


I will be the 1st to tell you that raising a child is no joke serious work. My girlfriend is a full-time mom and works with my daughter everyday. We have no grandparents or uncles, or relatives helping out with baby sitting.


I could not imagine raising a kid by myself. One wrong move in raising my daughter, she will be in porn. Thats how I look at it.


My girlfriend is pretty awesome at setting up family things to do every week with kids. If it were me alone, I would suck as a parent. I now really understand the value of both parents.


I am grateful for all I have and will be coming to this thread for new ways of looking at things as a parrent.

At this stage you actually already gave your daughter the control. She is doing things you ask her when you count to 2 because she knows you let her wait till you count to 2. I was doing the same until realized that I'm just giving them time to build up a conflict (got a 4 and a 6 year old). Now I typically give a timeout / say no tv / games / pool or whatever it is at the time I would normally say ONE or don't make me count.

Never turn it into a negotiation which "counting" really is.

Can't say if my way is the best way or not, it seems to work, I can't picture myself lay a hand of any of my kids. It teaches fear not respect

[Deej]

To each their own... but I guarantee if more kids grew up with proper "fear"/punishement in their lives that wed have less deadbeat fucking useless gangster types ...

[$5 submissions]

Originally Posted by munki

That's the beauty of being grandpa... you get to sit, laugh and watch with the smug "I told you it'd bite you in the ass someday" knowing glance.

[glowlite]

"snot nose crabby son"
What a pathetic Grandfather it would take to use those words.
Degrading your daughter and grandson all in one breath.

[Deej]

Originally Posted by glowlite

"snot nose crabby son"
What a pathetic Grandfather it would take to use those words.
Degrading your daughter and grandson all in one breath.

seriously?

wooooow

[Agent 488]

Originally Posted by Deej

To each their own... but I guarantee if more kids grew up with proper "fear"/punishement in their lives that wed have less deadbeat fucking useless gangster types ...

au contraire, behind every wanna be gangster and thug is a family where the only way they knew how to express anything was with violence.

[Aka_Bluey]

Originally Posted by Deej

To each their own... but I guarantee if more kids grew up with proper "fear"/punishement in their lives that wed have less deadbeat fucking useless gangster types ...

+1, should only have to do it once, a good flogging the first time, you should not have to do it again.


.

[CDSmith]

Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx

My daughter is 3 and I'm still dealing with that terrible 2's thing. It was really bad. Throwing random fits in the store, saying "No", etc.

I was abused physically and beaten by my mothers random boyfriends, growing up. So i never yelled at my daughter and I would never hit her like i got hit.


Solution: Spankings!!

I hated doing it and never did it out of anger. Spanked her a total of 3 times and it worked wonders. All i do is count to 3 and at 2 she is listening and following directions.


Night and day difference spankings have made. Now i just use the threat of a spanking and she snaps into line. Its like magic.


I will be the 1st to tell you that raising a child is no joke serious work. My girlfriend is a full-time mom and works with my daughter everyday. We have no grandparents or uncles, or relatives helping out with baby sitting.


I could not imagine raising a kid by myself. One wrong move in raising my daughter, she will be in porn. Thats how I look at it.


My girlfriend is pretty awesome at setting up family things to do every week with kids. If it were me alone, I would suck as a parent. I now really understand the value of both parents.


I am grateful for all I have and will be coming to this thread for new ways of looking at things as a parrent.

I have to say this is the best comment I've read from a parent in quite some time (on any board or online forum)

Bravo.

[shade001]

Originally Posted by goldassets

so you hit your children?

His post just sailed over your head, didn't it?

[CDSmith]

Originally Posted by Due

At this stage you actually already gave your daughter the control. She is doing things you ask her when you count to 2 because she knows you let her wait till you count to 2. I was doing the same until realized that I'm just giving them time to build up a conflict (got a 4 and a 6 year old). Now I typically give a timeout / say no tv / games / pool or whatever it is at the time I would normally say ONE or don't make me count.

Never turn it into a negotiation which "counting" really is.

Can't say if my way is the best way or not, it seems to work, I can't picture myself lay a hand of any of my kids. It teaches fear not respect

You make some good points in your post Morten but I have to take issue with that last coment. It's a complete falacy. I was spanked as a child, at different times by both my dad and my mother. I can assure you I have a clear memory of pretty much every time and why it was done. I can also assure you that no one had (and still has) more respect or love for their parents than me. Sure as a little kid you fear the spanking, but even as a toddler I always knew it was done because A) I deserved it, and B) they cared.

Spanking isn't the evil thing that some seem to think it is. And in looking around at a lot of today's youth and teenagers who have no respect for adults nor a fear of authority, who are out stealing cars or otherwise shit-disturbing wherever they go and then mouth off at anyone who dares to challenge them or tell them what idiots they're being,... well, it's not hard to see that there wasn't enough discipline in their childhoods.

Of course everyone should go with what works for them. But people who flatly dismiss spanking, look down their noses at those who do it, etc, really need to wake up and take a look around in society because there's a real problem brewing out there. Teachers and principals used to have some disciplinary recourse back in my school days, now they have nothing. Expulsion? Pffft! Bratty undisciplined kids LOVE time off from school. Many of them have zero respect for a teacher's authority and couldn't care less if an adult is angry with them. They know the system and know how to work it to get that adult in trouble, which all but makes some adults actually fear the kids.

I'm not saying spanking is the end-all be-all solution to the world's problems, but a little more of it in certain kids lives definitely couldn't hurt.

[candyflip]

I know a few parents who's kids have no schedule and I don't even want those kids around mine.

We've got a schedule and we stick to it. When we don't they get ugly fast. I can't deal with that, so I stick to the schedule.

I'm the parent. I'm the boss. They're under 2 and they know it.

[JustDaveXxx]

Originally Posted by Due

At this stage you actually already gave your daughter the control. She is doing things you ask her when you count to 2 because she knows you let her wait till you count to 2. I was doing the same until realized that I'm just giving them time to build up a conflict (got a 4 and a 6 year old). Now I typically give a timeout / say no tv / games / pool or whatever it is at the time I would normally say ONE or don't make me count.

Never turn it into a negotiation which "counting" really is.

Can't say if my way is the best way or not, it seems to work, I can't picture myself lay a hand of any of my kids. It teaches fear not respect

WOW! Great perspective.

I think i will be adding time outs to my daughters punishments. Its something I tried doing and my daughter did run us over. But I think that my daughter will take the time outs more seriously now, knowing that if she does not listen, there will be a "spanking".


Im no expert and if you dont have kids your opinion is useless on what to do or not to do. Because when you got your own, there is nothing that can prepare you for it.


I had all kinds of opinions and preconceived notions on what parents should and should not do. I would point out to misbehaving kids and say that their parents are "BAD". Man, I truly had no idea on how hard being "not a bad parent" is.





Yesterday I had a tough decision to make:

I had tickets and All Access passes and press passes to Metallica, Slayer, Megadeath and Anthrax at an out door festival concert in Indio California. Was really stoked and excited to go. Being friends with Kerry King of Slayer and getting a chance to meet and party with the guys from Metallica and Slayer would have been insane to miss and a chance of a life time.


But, my girlfriend with out me knowing had planned a day at The Underwood Family Farm with the kids and my mother and step-father were coming up from Redondo Beach to join us. This farm is pretty cool. Kids get to feed and pet animals and we all get to pick our own vegetables from the ground. A Fully functioning farm with lots to do with your kids.


Surprisingly the decision was easy. I worked 10 days strait and and was pretty busy for that whole time. I didn't even know about what my girlfriend planned and I did not know this was Easter weekend and I failed to mention that Slayer fell on this weekend. But when I woke up Saturday morning I put my Slayer shirt on and my girlfriend said "you ready to go to the farm", I said "yes."


I love Slayer, and Metallica, but I love my kids that much more. Surprisingly the decision wasn't even hard.

Originally Posted by CDSmith

I have to say this is the best comment I've read from a parent in quite some time (on any board or online forum)

Bravo.

Thanx


Im still learning new things everyday. Two things i know as a fact:


#1- I was a seriously abused child growing up and I will never do anything that was done to me, to my kid!!! My upbringing gave me a good list on what not to do to your kids.


#2-Being a porn shooter and interviewing every girl that I shoot, I have another good guide on what not to do to your children.

[shade001]

You can tell real quick who was raised to respect themselves and others when reading threads like these. Unfortunately, most under 30 these days don't even understand what discipline is, is has more to with being taught respect and proper behavior than 'hitting' a child. You should never hit a child, ever, whether it is with an open palm or a closed fist about the head. That is abuse.

Spanking a child should be done with the minimum of force possible. In fact, I've never had to do anything but pop a child on the butt with the flat of my hand and that very rarely. Tone of voice and a look will suffice 99 times out of a hundred.

As a matter of fact, I've found that just letting children know they have disappointed you is far worse than a spanking........unless of course, they were raised by some dumbass who thought timeouts would solve everything. Those children have probably never learned to respect themselves or respect others and that is the core issue.

[Orgasmics]

They test & test & test.

It's all about consistency.

[marlboroack]

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

But I really can't blame him since he is 2 years old and therefor doesn't lay down the law on when it is time for bed. I guess they let him stay up until 2am while they made Easter eggs when she got off work at midnight.

I don't understand parents these fucking days... Even my own fucking daughter. Now her son is a complete mess of nerves and mom is complaining to him about his complaining like it is his fault. I so want to take her "boyfriend" outside right now and just beat the living shit out of him... Even if it wasn't his fault.

Feed him a live mouse when he is being a little prick. Did i say that out-loud? Oh I'm sorry, excuse my assholeness. But pussy children suck and it's always the mothers fault.

[Deej]

Originally Posted by shade001

You can tell real quick who was raised to respect themselves and others when reading threads like these. Unfortunately, most under 30 these days don't even understand what discipline is, is has more to with being taught respect and proper behavior than 'hitting' a child. You should never hit a child, ever, whether it is with an open palm or a closed fist about the head. That is abuse.

Spanking a child should be done with the minimum of force possible. In fact, I've never had to do anything but pop a child on the butt with the flat of my hand and that very rarely. Tone of voice and a look will suffice 99 times out of a hundred.

As a matter of fact, I've found that just letting children know they have disappointed you is far worse than a spanking........unless of course, they were raised by some dumbass who thought timeouts would solve everything. Those children have probably never learned to respect themselves or respect others and that is the core issue.

Fuckin A Sammy!

[Mutt]

Spankings and washing your kid's mouth out with soap worked great for The Greatest Generation - what a bunch of candy ass pukes we've turned into and our kids and grandkids are the result, half of them diagnosed with ADD and on psych meds, the other half cry baby over protected sniveling little shits who get driven every where by Mommy. Keep telling your kids they're each unique and special just like a little snowflake - that really works out well.

I'm not that old, when I went to school, teachers and principals could take the law into their own hands and often did. I got the strap numerous times, a young female third grade teacher lined me and 3 other other troublemakers up against the wall in the hallway and kicked us in our little asses with her high heel shoes, another teacher picked up my desk with me in in and threw it over on its side, another one hurled textbooks like Nolan Ryan at us. And our parents knew this was going on and knew we deserved it. I think when we got the strap the principal did call home.

Spankings are good.

[shade001]

Originally Posted by Orgasmics

They test & test & test.

It's all about consistency.

Consistency and love. Those are the cornerstones of parenting. Great point.

[lazycash]

Originally Posted by glowlite

"snot nose crabby son"
What a pathetic Grandfather it would take to use those words.
Degrading your daughter and grandson all in one breath.

That was my first thought also, especially at a boy's age where you'd think one would be completely embracing being a Grandfather. Why not try and help your daughter understand why your grandson is acting like he is and how important establishing and maintaining a schedule, rather than talking about beating up her boyfriend.

[Orgasmics]

Originally Posted by shade001

Consistency and love. Those are the cornerstones of parenting. Great point.

I figured the love part should go without saying.

It's the consistency part that so many parents don't seem to get. If a child knows that when their parent says something, they mean it... then they don't continue to test and know they don't have the upper hand.

It infuriates me when I'm in a store and I hear a parent say "If you do that one more time, we're leaving"... then the child does it again, throws a fit, and is then rewarded with a brand new shiny toy or candy bar.

[Sid70]

Papa, don't preach

[rowan]

I don't spank my daughter but my wife does occasionally. My girl knows that daddy nips things in the bud much more quickly than mummy does, so if I get to the point of saying "ONE?" she runs.

I've never made it to 3, if I do then I guess I have to spank her, otherwise she's won...

[candyflip]

Isn't corporal punishment still accepted in about 50% of US states? Meaning that spankings are still used in schools as punishment?

I have a friend who just moved back here from Tennessee and is a teacher. She said that the kids in TN lived in fear of being spanked and we're pretty well behaved. Kids here in the north are much more unruly in the classroom and she attributes it to that.

Spankings don't work as a threat to my three year old. She likes 'em, just like her mom.