2bet seo expert - scam ?

[redtubex]

This seo expert started to scam its buyers, we paid a big amount of $$ for placing our links, after some time he removed our links to have low OBL. after we soaw that, he did not respond, then put links in other way we asked - penguin unfriendly way.
Until now i did not get his response. Sites got penalized regarding this.

[3xmedia]

that's not good

[~Ray]

bump for a resolution. he always seemed ok to me.

[myjah]

Doesn't sound like him at all

[Rankings]

Hi RedTube. First off, I have no emails, icq, or skypes regarding this issue. Any link issue is easily resolved, but never the less, you were not penalized for anything link related. The algorithm Google has had in place for a few years now does not penalize for link issues. It does benefit if done properly, but the reasoning for no penalties is as follows:

Google recognizes that if they penalized for improper link building, then any site owner could simply throw 1,000,000 bad backlinks at a competitor and knock them off the search engines.

So, while I am sorry that you are undergoing penalties, which I would be happy to link into for you, it was not from any link issues on our end. Since you are having issues with your links, please email me seo ATT xratedseo d0t com, and ill will get this resolved.

[DamageX]

I think I saw a Penguin flying.

[CaptainWolfy]

Originally Posted by 2bet

Hi RedTube. First off, I have no emails, icq, or skypes regarding this issue. Any link issue is easily resolved, but never the less, you were not penalized for anything link related. The algorithm Google has had in place for a few years now does not penalize for link issues. It does benefit if done properly, but the reasoning for no penalties is as follows:

Google recognizes that if they penalized for improper link building, then any site owner could simply throw 1,000,000 bad backlinks at a competitor and knock them off the search engines.

So, while I am sorry that you are undergoing penalties, which I would be happy to link into for you, it was not from any link issues on our end. Since you are having issues with your links, please email me seo ATT xratedseo d0t com, and ill will get this resolved.

you really have no clue how google works, don't you?

[Yo Adrian]

It's true, link changes like the one you're talking about won't result in penalties. Penguin does look at your link profile, but with more of an emphasis on anchor text patterns than link placement or quality.

If you did get penalized it's more likely something to do with an element of your site you have direct control over, such as your optimization techniques, your link building history or who you're linking out to.

[DamageX]

Originally Posted by CaptainWolfy

you really have no clue how google works, don't you?

Dude, if you're going to shit in the man's thread, do it subtly. Like I did.

[CaptainWolfy]

Originally Posted by DamageX

Dude, if you're going to shit in the man's thread, do it subtly. Like I did.

Ah sorry, let me try, i need to get advice from kung fu panda right now ;)

[Rankings]

Originally Posted by CaptainWolfy

you really have no clue how google works, don't you?

Google isn't quite sure how Google works

[CurrentlySober]

Originally Posted by DamageX

I think I saw a Penguin flying.

Plenty here...

[Fat Panda]

is your tube site legal? rofl....youre a fucking disgrace to this industry

[~Ray]

if your website gets penalized, it would not be in the the search index

if your website gets an over optimized penalty for a keyword, causing you to lose rank for that keyword, then you need more inlinks using other keywords to dillute the over optimization penalty.

Some people fall into the trap. They see their ranks fall for a keyword and add tons of links using that same keyword to try and save it...but, they actually make it worse. Now you know better.

Never stop building inlinks. Use 5 or 6 keywords per site to avoid such penalties. IMHO

~Ray

[Fat Panda]

content theft is despicable

[BAKO]

I did biz with him one time and it went sour. It was only 100 bucks but still

[DamageX]

Originally Posted by 2bet

Google isn't quite sure how Google works

Wanna bet?

[Matyko]

Originally Posted by myjah

Doesn't sound like him at all

+1

[fris]

well a redtube content scraping website isnt going to exactly florish, I would do your research before outright calling someone a scammer.

[Fat Panda]

i just reported redtube to the fbi https://tips.fbi.gov/

All honest gfy'ers should too.

[CyberHustler]

[Fat Panda]

seriously gfy start reporting thieves, scammers and criminals to the FBI https://tips.fbi.gov/

[Tjeezers]

Who is Google, heard a lot about this person

[digitalfantasies]

Originally Posted by ~Ray

if your website gets penalized, it would not be in the the search index

if your website gets an over optimized penalty for a keyword, causing you to lose rank for that keyword, then you need more inlinks using other keywords to dillute the over optimization penalty.

Some people fall into the trap. They see their ranks fall for a keyword and add tons of links using that same keyword to try and save it...but, they actually make it worse. Now you know better.

Never stop building inlinks. Use 5 or 6 keywords per site to avoid such penalties. IMHO

~Ray

but adding more inlinks using other keywords after the over optimized penalty doesn't mean the penalty goes away.. or does it?

[TheSquealer]

Classic stuff. No link related penalties

Hahahha

[KillerK]

Originally Posted by digitalfantasies

but adding more inlinks using other keywords after the over optimized penalty doesn't mean the penalty goes away.. or does it?

That's what he said.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by SAC

seriously gfy start reporting thieves, scammers and criminals to the FBI https://tips.fbi.gov/

[Yo Adrian]

Originally Posted by digitalfantasies

but adding more inlinks using other keywords after the over optimized penalty doesn't mean the penalty goes away.. or does it?

It's not so much a penalty as it is link devaluation. If you had a bunch of low quality links with exact match anchors than Pengin would have resulted in a devaluation of these links. So to pull a site back up you'd need to build new links, as ~ray mentioned, using a wider variety of anchors and link sources.

So if your target phrase is 'naked teens', for example, you might want to aim for building new links with around 40% of your anchors using 'naked teens' and another 50% being related phrases like 'nude teens' and 'naked girls'.. Google knows these are directly related to 'naked teens' so they'll help improve your ranks for that, and will consequently give you some ranks for those related phrases as well. The last 10% or so should use generic anchors like 'continue' or 'click here'.. since those tend to occur naturally.

This is assuming your drop in ranks were actually caused by a devaluation of your links, penalties for over optimized pages, hidden links and links pointing bad sites are all wrapped up into Penguin as well.

[~Ray]

you can either remove links until you are not over optimized for that keyword.. or you can add more keywords using different anchors until you are not over optimized for that keyword.

If that doesn't work, then perhaps google is looking at your site and the way it's built as well as its outbound links. Does your keyword appear too many times on the page? (spammy) Do you link to credible sites in the same niche?

All parts of the puzzle.

[digitalfantasies]

thanks for the replies

[xXXtesy10]

Originally Posted by SAC

seriously gfy start reporting thieves, scammers and criminals to the FBI https://tips.fbi.gov/

Going LMAO when they show up at your door instead

[arock10]

aren't all seo services a scam anyway?

[peterk]

Originally Posted by arock10

aren't all seo services a scam anyway?

^^^ this ^^^

[papill0n]

Originally Posted by redtubex

This seo expert started to scam its buyers, we paid a big amount of $$ for placing our links, after some time he removed our links to have low OBL. after we soaw that, he did not respond, then put links in other way we asked - penguin unfriendly way.
Until now i did not get his response. Sites got penalized regarding this.

suck shit cunt

your village = starving tonight

[mce]

Has this been resolved yet?

[WiredGuy]

I hate penguins.
WG

[garce]

Originally Posted by zdeneczek

that's not good

But redtube-x is?

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by 2bet

Hi RedTube. First off, I have no emails, icq, or skypes regarding this issue. Any link issue is easily resolved, but never the less, you were not penalized for anything link related. The algorithm Google has had in place for a few years now does not penalize for link issues. It does benefit if done properly, but the reasoning for no penalties is as follows:

Google recognizes that if they penalized for improper link building, then any site owner could simply throw 1,000,000 bad backlinks at a competitor and knock them off the search engines.

So, while I am sorry that you are undergoing penalties, which I would be happy to link into for you, it was not from any link issues on our end. Since you are having issues with your links, please email me seo ATT xratedseo d0t com, and ill will get this resolved.

[bean-aid]

Originally Posted by 2bet

So, while I am sorry that you are undergoing penalties, which I would be happy to link into for you, it was not from any link issues on our end. Since you are having issues with your links, please email me seo ATT xratedseo d0t com, and ill will get this resolved.

just got a chuckle out of this paragraph ;) Carry on ladies

[Rankings]

Originally Posted by mce

Has this been resolved yet?

i have not had anyone reach out to me yet. I have checked emails, icq's and skype's since this thread to assure I received his/her message.

[redtubex]

2bet- Only posting such thread I could have your attention. Because i did not get any response. I will post here again when everything will be solved.

[peterk]

Originally Posted by papill0n

suck shit cunt

your village = starving tonight

go eat a poo sandwich

[DamageX]

Originally Posted by arock10

aren't all seo services a scam anyway?

That depends on who performs them. Some will scam you. Some will get you results. Sometimes the results you get won't make you as much money as you thought and you may end up losing on the deal. And some other times all it takes is a little push to take you where you need to increase your bottom line significantly. If you're #5 for a big keyword and they push you to #4, it may not sound like much to most people, but in most cases the traffic will double, for that keyword. You'll still see people bitching that the SEO they hired hardly lifted a finger and thus scammed them.

[Rankings]

Originally Posted by DamageX

That depends on who performs them. Some will scam you. Some will get you results. Sometimes the results you get won't make you as much money as you thought and you may end up losing on the deal. And some other times all it takes is a little push to take you where you need to increase your bottom line significantly. If you're #5 for a big keyword and they push you to #4, it may not sound like much to most people, but in most cases the traffic will double, for that keyword. You'll still see people bitching that the SEO they hired hardly lifted a finger and thus scammed them.

well said. It has always been our opinion that when it comes to SEO, it is not about the quantity, but the quality. We have people all the time tell us they want 5,000,000 uniques a day from the SERPs. I then have to ask if they are looking for traffic for sales. SE traffic should be focused on sales while other sources are good for traffic simply to lower your Alexa. I would rather a client get 100k a day and covert 1:300 then get 1 Million per day and covert 1:110,000

SEO is not only a full time job to get ranked, but a full time job to stay ranked.

[Rankings]

Originally Posted by redtubex

2bet- Only posting such thread I could have your attention. Because i did not get any response. I will post here again when everything will be solved.

I finally received an email from you last night, responded immediately. Same thing would have occurred had I received any other emails from you previous to this thread.