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  • redtubex
    Confirmed User
    • Nov 2009
    • 474
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    2bet seo expert - scam ?

    This seo expert started to scam its buyers, we paid a big amount of $$ for placing our links, after some time he removed our links to have low OBL. after we soaw that, he did not respond, then put links in other way we asked - penguin unfriendly way.
    Until now i did not get his response. Sites got penalized regarding this.
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    • 3xmedia
      Confirmed User
      • Apr 2004
      • 5738
      #2
      that's not good
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        • ~Ray
          visit hardlinks.org
          • Jun 2003
          • 18361
          #3
          bump for a resolution. he always seemed ok to me.
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            • myjah
              Back in the harbor
              • Sep 2003
              • 11482
              #4
              Doesn't sound like him at all
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                • Rankings
                  Adult SEO
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 10633
                  #5
                  Hi RedTube. First off, I have no emails, icq, or skypes regarding this issue. Any link issue is easily resolved, but never the less, you were not penalized for anything link related. The algorithm Google has had in place for a few years now does not penalize for link issues. It does benefit if done properly, but the reasoning for no penalties is as follows:

                  Google recognizes that if they penalized for improper link building, then any site owner could simply throw 1,000,000 bad backlinks at a competitor and knock them off the search engines.

                  So, while I am sorry that you are undergoing penalties, which I would be happy to link into for you, it was not from any link issues on our end. Since you are having issues with your links, please email me seo ATT xratedseo d0t com, and ill will get this resolved.
                  Last edited by Rankings; 09-14-2012, 07:56 AM.
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                    • DamageX
                      Marketing & Strategy
                      • Jun 2001
                      • 14293
                      #6
                      I think I saw a Penguin flying.
                      Whitehat is for chumps

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                        • CaptainWolfy
                          Playa
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 8439
                          #7
                          Originally posted by 2bet
                          Hi RedTube. First off, I have no emails, icq, or skypes regarding this issue. Any link issue is easily resolved, but never the less, you were not penalized for anything link related. The algorithm Google has had in place for a few years now does not penalize for link issues. It does benefit if done properly, but the reasoning for no penalties is as follows:

                          Google recognizes that if they penalized for improper link building, then any site owner could simply throw 1,000,000 bad backlinks at a competitor and knock them off the search engines.

                          So, while I am sorry that you are undergoing penalties, which I would be happy to link into for you, it was not from any link issues on our end. Since you are having issues with your links, please email me seo ATT xratedseo d0t com, and ill will get this resolved.
                          you really have no clue how google works, don't you?

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                            • Yo Adrian
                              Confirmed User
                              • Apr 2002
                              • 6326
                              #8
                              It's true, link changes like the one you're talking about won't result in penalties. Penguin does look at your link profile, but with more of an emphasis on anchor text patterns than link placement or quality.

                              If you did get penalized it's more likely something to do with an element of your site you have direct control over, such as your optimization techniques, your link building history or who you're linking out to.
                              Adult SEO Partners - Full service Adult SEO Agency serving some of the biggest names in the industry.

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                                • DamageX
                                  Marketing & Strategy
                                  • Jun 2001
                                  • 14293
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by CaptainWolfy
                                  you really have no clue how google works, don't you?
                                  Dude, if you're going to shit in the man's thread, do it subtly. Like I did.
                                  Whitehat is for chumps

                                  If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                                    • CaptainWolfy
                                      Playa
                                      • Dec 2005
                                      • 8439
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by DamageX
                                      Dude, if you're going to shit in the man's thread, do it subtly. Like I did.
                                      Ah sorry, let me try, i need to get advice from kung fu panda right now ;)

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                                        • Rankings
                                          Adult SEO
                                          • Jan 2004
                                          • 10633
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by CaptainWolfy
                                          you really have no clue how google works, don't you?
                                          Google isn't quite sure how Google works
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                                            • CurrentlySober
                                              Too lazy to wipe my ass
                                              • Aug 2002
                                              • 38946
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by DamageX
                                              I think I saw a Penguin flying.


                                              Plenty here...


                                              👁️ 👍️ 💩

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                                                • Fat Panda
                                                  Porn is Dead. Move along.
                                                  • Aug 2006
                                                  • 13296
                                                  #13
                                                  is your tube site legal? rofl....youre a fucking disgrace to this industry

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                                                    • ~Ray
                                                      visit hardlinks.org
                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                      • 18361
                                                      #14
                                                      if your website gets penalized, it would not be in the the search index

                                                      if your website gets an over optimized penalty for a keyword, causing you to lose rank for that keyword, then you need more inlinks using other keywords to dillute the over optimization penalty.

                                                      Some people fall into the trap. They see their ranks fall for a keyword and add tons of links using that same keyword to try and save it...but, they actually make it worse. Now you know better.

                                                      Never stop building inlinks. Use 5 or 6 keywords per site to avoid such penalties. IMHO

                                                      ~Ray
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                                                        • Fat Panda
                                                          Porn is Dead. Move along.
                                                          • Aug 2006
                                                          • 13296
                                                          #15
                                                          content theft is despicable

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                                                            • BAKO
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                                                              • Jul 2005
                                                              • 18478
                                                              #16
                                                              I did biz with him one time and it went sour. It was only 100 bucks but still
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                                                                • DamageX
                                                                  Marketing & Strategy
                                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                                  • 14293
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by 2bet
                                                                  Google isn't quite sure how Google works
                                                                  Wanna bet?
                                                                  Whitehat is for chumps

                                                                  If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                                                                    • Matyko
                                                                      PsyHead
                                                                      • Aug 2005
                                                                      • 8681
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by myjah
                                                                      Doesn't sound like him at all
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                                                                        • fris
                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                                          • 55682
                                                                          #19
                                                                          well a redtube content scraping website isnt going to exactly florish, I would do your research before outright calling someone a scammer.
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                                                                            • Fat Panda
                                                                              Porn is Dead. Move along.
                                                                              • Aug 2006
                                                                              • 13296
                                                                              #20
                                                                              i just reported redtube to the fbi https://tips.fbi.gov/

                                                                              All honest gfy'ers should too.

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                                                                                • CyberHustler
                                                                                  Masterbaiter
                                                                                  • Feb 2006
                                                                                  • 28742
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

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                                                                                    • Fat Panda
                                                                                      Porn is Dead. Move along.
                                                                                      • Aug 2006
                                                                                      • 13296
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      seriously gfy start reporting thieves, scammers and criminals to the FBI https://tips.fbi.gov/

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                                                                                        • Tjeezers
                                                                                          Webmaster
                                                                                          • Mar 2007
                                                                                          • 16603
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Who is Google, heard a lot about this person

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                                                                                            • digitalfantasies
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Sep 2010
                                                                                              • 2759
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by ~Ray
                                                                                              if your website gets penalized, it would not be in the the search index

                                                                                              if your website gets an over optimized penalty for a keyword, causing you to lose rank for that keyword, then you need more inlinks using other keywords to dillute the over optimization penalty.

                                                                                              Some people fall into the trap. They see their ranks fall for a keyword and add tons of links using that same keyword to try and save it...but, they actually make it worse. Now you know better.

                                                                                              Never stop building inlinks. Use 5 or 6 keywords per site to avoid such penalties. IMHO

                                                                                              ~Ray
                                                                                              but adding more inlinks using other keywords after the over optimized penalty doesn't mean the penalty goes away.. or does it?

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                                                                                                • TheSquealer
                                                                                                  Mayor of Thneedville
                                                                                                  • Oct 2004
                                                                                                  • 26177
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Classic stuff. No link related penalties

                                                                                                  Hahahha
                                                                                                  .
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                                                                                                    • KillerK
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • May 2008
                                                                                                      • 3406
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by digitalfantasies
                                                                                                      but adding more inlinks using other keywords after the over optimized penalty doesn't mean the penalty goes away.. or does it?
                                                                                                      That's what he said.

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                                                                                                        • brassmonkey
                                                                                                          Pay It Forward
                                                                                                          • Sep 2005
                                                                                                          • 77397
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by SAC
                                                                                                          seriously gfy start reporting thieves, scammers and criminals to the FBI https://tips.fbi.gov/
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                                                                                                            • Yo Adrian
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • Apr 2002
                                                                                                              • 6326
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by digitalfantasies
                                                                                                              but adding more inlinks using other keywords after the over optimized penalty doesn't mean the penalty goes away.. or does it?
                                                                                                              It's not so much a penalty as it is link devaluation. If you had a bunch of low quality links with exact match anchors than Pengin would have resulted in a devaluation of these links. So to pull a site back up you'd need to build new links, as ~ray mentioned, using a wider variety of anchors and link sources.

                                                                                                              So if your target phrase is 'naked teens', for example, you might want to aim for building new links with around 40% of your anchors using 'naked teens' and another 50% being related phrases like 'nude teens' and 'naked girls'.. Google knows these are directly related to 'naked teens' so they'll help improve your ranks for that, and will consequently give you some ranks for those related phrases as well. The last 10% or so should use generic anchors like 'continue' or 'click here'.. since those tend to occur naturally.

                                                                                                              This is assuming your drop in ranks were actually caused by a devaluation of your links, penalties for over optimized pages, hidden links and links pointing bad sites are all wrapped up into Penguin as well.
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                                                                                                                • ~Ray
                                                                                                                  visit hardlinks.org
                                                                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                  • 18361
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  you can either remove links until you are not over optimized for that keyword.. or you can add more keywords using different anchors until you are not over optimized for that keyword.

                                                                                                                  If that doesn't work, then perhaps google is looking at your site and the way it's built as well as its outbound links. Does your keyword appear too many times on the page? (spammy) Do you link to credible sites in the same niche?

                                                                                                                  All parts of the puzzle.
                                                                                                                  Last edited by ~Ray; 09-14-2012, 11:00 AM.
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                                                                                                                    • digitalfantasies
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                                                                                                                      • Sep 2010
                                                                                                                      • 2759
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      thanks for the replies

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                                                                                                                        • xXXtesy10
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                                                                                                                          • Jul 2012
                                                                                                                          • 7127
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by SAC
                                                                                                                          seriously gfy start reporting thieves, scammers and criminals to the FBI https://tips.fbi.gov/
                                                                                                                          Going LMAO when they show up at your door instead
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                                                                                                                            • arock10
                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                              • Jan 2006
                                                                                                                              • 6217
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              aren't all seo services a scam anyway?
                                                                                                                              Sup

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                                                                                                                                • peterk
                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2007
                                                                                                                                  • 3529
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by arock10
                                                                                                                                  aren't all seo services a scam anyway?
                                                                                                                                  ^^^ this ^^^
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                                                                                                                                    • papill0n
                                                                                                                                      Unregistered Abuser
                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2007
                                                                                                                                      • 15547
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by redtubex
                                                                                                                                      This seo expert started to scam its buyers, we paid a big amount of $$ for placing our links, after some time he removed our links to have low OBL. after we soaw that, he did not respond, then put links in other way we asked - penguin unfriendly way.
                                                                                                                                      Until now i did not get his response. Sites got penalized regarding this.
                                                                                                                                      suck shit cunt

                                                                                                                                      your village = starving tonight

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                                                                                                                                        • mce
                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                          • Jun 2012
                                                                                                                                          • 3915
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Has this been resolved yet?

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                                                                                                                                            • WiredGuy
                                                                                                                                              Pounding Googlebot
                                                                                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                              • 34512
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              I hate penguins.
                                                                                                                                              WG
                                                                                                                                              I play with Google.

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                                                                                                                                                • garce
                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                                                  • 7103
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by zdeneczek
                                                                                                                                                  that's not good
                                                                                                                                                  But redtube-x is?

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                                                                                                                                                    • OneHungLo
                                                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                      • May 2001
                                                                                                                                                      • 40906
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by 2bet
                                                                                                                                                      Hi RedTube. First off, I have no emails, icq, or skypes regarding this issue. Any link issue is easily resolved, but never the less, you were not penalized for anything link related. The algorithm Google has had in place for a few years now does not penalize for link issues. It does benefit if done properly, but the reasoning for no penalties is as follows:

                                                                                                                                                      Google recognizes that if they penalized for improper link building, then any site owner could simply throw 1,000,000 bad backlinks at a competitor and knock them off the search engines.

                                                                                                                                                      So, while I am sorry that you are undergoing penalties, which I would be happy to link into for you, it was not from any link issues on our end. Since you are having issues with your links, please email me seo ATT xratedseo d0t com, and ill will get this resolved.

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                                                                                                                                                        • bean-aid
                                                                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                          • Jun 2011
                                                                                                                                                          • 16493
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by 2bet
                                                                                                                                                          So, while I am sorry that you are undergoing penalties, which I would be happy to link into for you, it was not from any link issues on our end. Since you are having issues with your links, please email me seo ATT xratedseo d0t com, and ill will get this resolved.
                                                                                                                                                          just got a chuckle out of this paragraph ;) Carry on ladies

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                                                                                                                                                            • Rankings
                                                                                                                                                              Adult SEO
                                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                                                              • 10633
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by mce
                                                                                                                                                              Has this been resolved yet?
                                                                                                                                                              i have not had anyone reach out to me yet. I have checked emails, icq's and skype's since this thread to assure I received his/her message.
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                                                                                                                                                                • redtubex
                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                  • Nov 2009
                                                                                                                                                                  • 474
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  2bet- Only posting such thread I could have your attention. Because i did not get any response. I will post here again when everything will be solved.
                                                                                                                                                                  SEO

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                                                                                                                                                                    • peterk
                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2007
                                                                                                                                                                      • 3529
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by papill0n
                                                                                                                                                                      suck shit cunt

                                                                                                                                                                      your village = starving tonight
                                                                                                                                                                      go eat a poo sandwich
                                                                                                                                                                      Bogat mama ala cu loturi de trafic

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                                                                                                                                                                        • DamageX
                                                                                                                                                                          Marketing & Strategy
                                                                                                                                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                                                          • 14293
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by arock10
                                                                                                                                                                          aren't all seo services a scam anyway?
                                                                                                                                                                          That depends on who performs them. Some will scam you. Some will get you results. Sometimes the results you get won't make you as much money as you thought and you may end up losing on the deal. And some other times all it takes is a little push to take you where you need to increase your bottom line significantly. If you're #5 for a big keyword and they push you to #4, it may not sound like much to most people, but in most cases the traffic will double, for that keyword. You'll still see people bitching that the SEO they hired hardly lifted a finger and thus scammed them.
                                                                                                                                                                          Whitehat is for chumps

                                                                                                                                                                          If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                                                                                                                                                                            • Rankings
                                                                                                                                                                              Adult SEO
                                                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                                                                              • 10633
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by DamageX
                                                                                                                                                                              That depends on who performs them. Some will scam you. Some will get you results. Sometimes the results you get won't make you as much money as you thought and you may end up losing on the deal. And some other times all it takes is a little push to take you where you need to increase your bottom line significantly. If you're #5 for a big keyword and they push you to #4, it may not sound like much to most people, but in most cases the traffic will double, for that keyword. You'll still see people bitching that the SEO they hired hardly lifted a finger and thus scammed them.
                                                                                                                                                                              well said. It has always been our opinion that when it comes to SEO, it is not about the quantity, but the quality. We have people all the time tell us they want 5,000,000 uniques a day from the SERPs. I then have to ask if they are looking for traffic for sales. SE traffic should be focused on sales while other sources are good for traffic simply to lower your Alexa. I would rather a client get 100k a day and covert 1:300 then get 1 Million per day and covert 1:110,000

                                                                                                                                                                              SEO is not only a full time job to get ranked, but a full time job to stay ranked.
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                                                                                                                                                                                • Rankings
                                                                                                                                                                                  Adult SEO
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 10633
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by redtubex
                                                                                                                                                                                  2bet- Only posting such thread I could have your attention. Because i did not get any response. I will post here again when everything will be solved.
                                                                                                                                                                                  I finally received an email from you last night, responded immediately. Same thing would have occurred had I received any other emails from you previous to this thread.
                                                                                                                                                                                  Your leader for Adult SEO Services

                                                                                                                                                                                  19+ Years Serving the Adult/SEO Industry

                                                                                                                                                                                  ICQ: 610-814
                                                                                                                                                                                  Skype: xratedseo

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