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Barefootsies 09-18-2013 03:15 PM

When Will the Republicans Move On?
 
Obamacare passed years ago. Stop trying to stop the government, or refuse to raise debt ceiling or any of these other annual tactics. This is one of many reasons why you keep losing elections.

Just put on the Klan sheets, admit you have a problem with darkie and anything he's trying to accomplish for the next 3 years. Harness you rage of the black man and move on to actually doing something productive for the economy/jobs/citizens to show you deserve to be in power again.

At this rate, it's going to be a long long time before there is another viable Republican candidate for president.

:2 cents:

xNetworx 09-18-2013 03:27 PM

I'll never understand how a person could be a die hard Republican if they are not one or all of the following

1. Wealthy, Very Wealthy.
2. Religious Conservative
3. Extremely Pro Gun
4. Extremely Anti Abortion (see #2)

topsiteking 09-18-2013 03:31 PM

Rand Paul will be next.

Robbie 09-18-2013 03:33 PM

My feeling is that the Republicans in Congress pretty much ran on stopping ObamaCare.

So they SHOULD be doing everything they can to represent their constituents.

There are lots of laws that have been changed and overturned in history.

Theoretically the Republicans are doing exactly what they should be doing in representing their districts.
Same as Democrats are supposed to be doing.

Of course it's all theory...they are ALL a bunch of crooks filling their pockets. :(

2MuchMark 09-18-2013 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19804877)
My feeling is that the Republicans in Congress pretty much ran on stopping ObamaCare.

So they SHOULD be doing everything they can to represent their constituents. :(

They tried and lost 42? 43 times already? Time they gave up and did something productive.

Barefootsies 09-18-2013 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19804877)
My feeling is that the Republicans in Congress pretty much ran on stopping ObamaCare.

While I understand that, I often times must concede your point that the politicians no longer really listen to the "citizens" and only lobbying groups. Some examples of this would be issues of gun control, gay marriage, decriminalizing pot, among other issues that despite popular public opinion can't get passed.

That said, what have the Republicans accomplished in 2 terms of the black president? Fought him on everything, stalled government, threaten to crash the economy with debt ceiling, stop the government annually.

Feel free to chime in with that they have actually accomplished for 'the citizens' in the better part of 5-6 years now.

:disgust

SuckOnThis 09-18-2013 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 19804881)
They tried and lost 42? 43 times already? Time they gave up and did something productive.

C'mon, 44 times is a charm.

:1orglaugh

noshit 09-18-2013 03:43 PM

Unbelievable that someone still talks about Democrats/Republicans.
As if there's any difference :1orglaugh

Robbie 09-18-2013 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noshit (Post 19804892)
Unbelievable that someone still talks about Democrats/Republicans.
As if there's any difference :1orglaugh

Sadly so...

SuckOnThis 09-18-2013 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 19804886)
While I understand that, I often times must concede your point that the politicians no longer really listen to the "citizens" and only lobbying groups. Some examples of this would be issues of gun control, gay marriage, decriminalizing pot, among other issues that despite popular public opinion can't get passed.

That said, what have the Republicans accomplished in 2 terms of the black president? Fought him on everything, stalled government, threaten to crash the economy with debt ceiling, stop the government annually.

Feel free to chime in with that they have actually accomplished for 'the citizens' in the better part of 5-6 years now.

:disgust

I'd like to know what they've accomplished in the past 20 years.

Barefootsies 09-18-2013 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 19804897)
I'd like to know what they've accomplished in the past 20 years.

They got you into a few more wars we never won.

:Oh crap

Robbie 09-18-2013 03:49 PM

And don't forget that IF people just rolled over and allowed things they considered to be wrong to remain, history would be a lot different. We'd still have slavery for instance.

Or how about the repeal of Prohibition?
When Prohibition was passed...one of it's leading supporters made this comment:
"There is as much chance of repealing the Eighteenth Amendment as there is for a hummingbird to fly to the planet Mars with the Washington Monument tied to its tail"

Well, it took some stubborn Congressmen 13 years and a lot of angry citizens protesting for years...but it WAS repealed.

So no, I don't think that continuing to battle against a program that you genuinely believe is no good is at all a wasted motion.

The Democrat party sure wants people to believe that.

But in reality, they are kind of doing exactly what the opposition party in our form of govt. is supposed to do.

Rochard 09-18-2013 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 19804897)
I'd like to know what they've accomplished in the past 20 years.

You can say that about the Democrats too ya know.

Robbie 09-18-2013 03:56 PM

I personally like it when they stay deadlocked.

The last thing I need is MORE laws passed by a bunch of money hungry lifetime politicians in Washington D.C.

SuckOnThis 09-18-2013 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19804905)
You can say that about the Democrats too ya know.


Sure, if you are against clean air and water, the internet, healthcare for people who otherwise couldnt get it, strongest economy in history, paying off the national debt, lowest poverty rate in a generation are all bad things then I guess you have a point.

Barefootsies 09-18-2013 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19804915)
I personally like it when they stay deadlocked.

Last time the republicans played their silly reindeer games with the debt ceiling, it crashed the Dow 17% and in the end they basically caved in. While I agree with you on many points about regulation and laws passed by chicken little's who seem determined to take away more freedom for a nanny-state.... Is it worth it to constantly cause these tidal waves with the economy, credit, businesses, consumer confidence?

I don't think so. There are many other things this country needs that should be a priority over Obamacare nonsense.

Robbie 09-18-2013 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 19804938)
There are many other things this country needs that should be a priority over Obamacare nonsense.

That is exactly what I tried to tell Barrack back in 2009 when people were begging for jobs and he spent the year working on ObamaCare. :(

He's hardheaded and wouldn't listen to me. Damn President. :mad:

Barefootsies 09-18-2013 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19804944)
That is exactly what I tried to tell Barrack back in 2009 when people were begging for jobs and he spent the year working on ObamaCare. :(

He's hardheaded and wouldn't listen to me. Damn President. :mad:

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :thumbsup

Vendzilla 09-18-2013 04:43 PM

While Barefooties has it wrong, the Klan always sided with the Democrats.

The GOP is doing what they promised to do, serve the people that elected them.

Everyone wants universal healthcare, just not that version. The Unions don't even like it.

Barefootsies 09-18-2013 04:49 PM

Vendzilla has arrived....

Vendzilla 09-18-2013 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 19804975)
Vendzilla has arrived....

More like woke up from this awful dream to find I was awake the whole time

Vendzilla 09-18-2013 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 19804938)
Last time the republicans played their silly reindeer games with the debt ceiling, it crashed the Dow 17% and in the end they basically caved in. While I agree with you on many points about regulation and laws passed by chicken little's who seem determined to take away more freedom for a nanny-state.... Is it worth it to constantly cause these tidal waves with the economy, credit, businesses, consumer confidence?

I don't think so. There are many other things this country needs that should be a priority over Obamacare nonsense.

The DOW took a dip when Bernake stated he was going to start slowing down the printing of money from the current 85 billion a month

Grapesoda 09-18-2013 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 19804858)
Obamacare passed years ago. Stop trying to stop the government, or refuse to raise debt ceiling or any of these other annual tactics. This is one of many reasons why you keep losing elections.

Just put on the Klan sheets, admit you have a problem with darkie and anything he's trying to accomplish for the next 3 years. Harness you rage of the black man and move on to actually doing something productive for the economy/jobs/citizens to show you deserve to be in power again.

At this rate, it's going to be a long long time before there is another viable Republican candidate for president.

:2 cents:

you mean the Obama care that congress refuses to accept for themselves? that Obama care? interesting how you jumped from crappy health care platform to racist :2 cents:

Grapesoda 09-18-2013 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 19804886)
While I understand that, I often times must concede your point that the politicians no longer really listen to the "citizens" and only lobbying groups. Some examples of this would be issues of gun control, gay marriage, decriminalizing pot, among other issues that despite popular public opinion can't get passed.

That said, what have the Republicans accomplished in 2 terms of the black president? Fought him on everything, stalled government, threaten to crash the economy with debt ceiling, stop the government annually.

Feel free to chime in with that they have actually accomplished for 'the citizens' in the better part of 5-6 years now.

:disgust

gay marriage was voted down in California and passed anyway... is that what you reference when you reference 'politicians no longer really listen to the "citizens" and only lobbying groups'

JockoHomo 09-18-2013 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noshit (Post 19804892)
Unbelievable that someone still talks about Democrats/Republicans.
As if there's any difference :1orglaugh

Some fucking morons still are fooled by those manipulators.

Then again, some people still believe in God so go figure.

mineistaken 09-18-2013 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamBoss (Post 19804868)
I'll never understand how a person could be a die hard Republican if they are not one or all of the following

1. Wealthy, Very Wealthy.
2. Religious Conservative
3. Extremely Pro Gun
4. Extremely Anti Abortion (see #2)

5. Anti welfare leaching
6. Anti communism
7. Anti taxing extra those that work a lot and contribute more taxes than some lazy min wage person. In short: Anti punishing those that contribute more and rewarding those that contribute almost nothing. In more short: Anti rewarding lazyness.
8. Anti promoting worse person instead of better for a position just because he/she has the "right" skin color (minorities).
9. ..
10. and much more

Especially LOL at abortion thing. Its like tiny tiny thing that has no relevance compared to bigger issues. Nobody chooses their political views on such a tiny issue as abortion.

I never understood how any quality member of society can be democrat (unless gay or minority) in US. The only bad thing in republican point of view is military spending. And abortion - but again this is such a tiny issue that should not even be mentioned amongst biggest points.

Grapesoda 09-18-2013 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19804972)
While Barefooties has it wrong, the Klan always sided with the Democrats.

The GOP is doing what they promised to do, serve the people that elected them.

Everyone wants universal healthcare, just not that version. The Unions don't even like it.

congress won't even accept Obama care for themselves, in fact Obama agreed with congress and helped change a few laws so that congress doesn't have to use Obama care... maybe congress is racist? isn't that the common narrative... if you don't agree with Obama legislation you're racist.... the foot guy himself postulated* this is the reason the republicans are trying to stop the funding of Obama care....

*Something assumed without proof as being self-evident or generally accepted, especially when used as a basis for an argument:

epitome 09-18-2013 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19805026)
gay marriage was voted down in California and passed anyway... is that what you reference when you reference 'politicians no longer really listen to the "citizens" and only lobbying groups'

Ah, it's true. The loudest really are the dumbest. :2 cents:

epitome 09-18-2013 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19805047)
congress won't even accept Obama care for themselves, in fact Obama agreed with congress and helped change a few laws so that congress doesn't have to use Obama care... maybe congress is racist? isn't that the common narrative... if you don't agree with Obama legislation you're racist.... the foot guy himself postulated* this is the reason the republicans are trying to stop the funding of Obama care....

*Something assumed without proof as being self-evident or generally accepted, especially when used as a basis for an argument:

Ah, it's true, the loudest really are the dumbest. :2 cents:

bronco67 09-18-2013 06:16 PM

Maddow was just talking about the giant scam business being made out of the Obamacare boogeyman. Even Mike HUckabee has a phone line.

bronco67 09-18-2013 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19804904)
And don't forget that IF people just rolled over and allowed things they considered to be wrong to remain, history would be a lot different. We'd still have slavery for instance.

Or how about the repeal of Prohibition?
When Prohibition was passed...one of it's leading supporters made this comment:
"There is as much chance of repealing the Eighteenth Amendment as there is for a hummingbird to fly to the planet Mars with the Washington Monument tied to its tail"

Well, it took some stubborn Congressmen 13 years and a lot of angry citizens protesting for years...but it WAS repealed.

So no, I don't think that continuing to battle against a program that you genuinely believe is no good is at all a wasted motion.

The Democrat party sure wants people to believe that.

But in reality, they are kind of doing exactly what the opposition party in our form of govt. is supposed to do.

It's wrong to try to reform healthcare, and give more people access to it? It's already starting to show that its going to remove $100 billion from our debt. The narrative Republicans are shoveling about it being the end of our country is bullshit.

Why does it always look like Republicans are on the wrong side of every argument, whether it's gay rights, or whatever? Rick Santorum has a website to stop a UN Treaty that would help disabled people across the world. Could he be any more of an asshole?

Barefootsies 09-18-2013 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19805047)
the foot guy himself postulated*....

Sorry Markham Jr, I am not taking the bait.

I give you an A for effort in the multiple threads and attempts. Keep working on it.

:pimp

Barefootsies 09-18-2013 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 19805052)
Ah, it's true, the loudest really are the dumbest. :2 cents:

You just get home from your fast food job darling? Nice of you to make an appearance with your ignorance. Feel free to dazzle us.

:thumbsup

JockoHomo 09-18-2013 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noshit (Post 19804892)
Unbelievable that someone still talks about Democrats/Republicans.
As if there's any difference :1orglaugh

Some fucking morons still are fooled by those manipulators.

Then again, some people still believe in God so go figure.

Barefootsies 09-18-2013 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JockoHomo (Post 19805063)
Then again, some people still believe in God so go figure.

Florida's full of them.

:Oh crap

Vendzilla 09-18-2013 06:34 PM

http://us.f1608.mail.yahoo.com/ya/do...YahooMailNeoCL

winter_ 09-18-2013 06:34 PM

http://i.imgur.com/rXGrc5r.png

2MuchMark 09-18-2013 06:35 PM

http://upload.democraticunderground....-obamacare.jpg

tony286 09-18-2013 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19805041)
5. Anti welfare leaching
6. Anti communism
7. Anti taxing extra those that work a lot and contribute more taxes than some lazy min wage person. In short: Anti punishing those that contribute more and rewarding those that contribute almost nothing. In more short: Anti rewarding lazyness.
8. Anti promoting worse person instead of better for a position just because he/she has the "right" skin color (minorities).
9. ..
10. and much more

Especially LOL at abortion thing. Its like tiny tiny thing that has no relevance compared to bigger issues. Nobody chooses their political views on such a tiny issue as abortion.

I never understood how any quality member of society can be democrat (unless gay or minority) in US. The only bad thing in republican point of view is military spending. And abortion - but again this is such a tiny issue that should not even be mentioned amongst biggest points.

antiwelfare? Then why is it the biggest leech states are all red?http://www.businessinsider.com/red-s...-queens-2011-8
Anti communism? please tell me how during Obama where the rich have prospered actually more than under Bush is Communist? Or Obamacare which is a kiss to the private insurance companies and the big pharm. Dont believe everything the pundits tell you. Also if it wasnt for democrat funding for the creation of the net(AL gore was on that committee,that's what he meant by created the net). There would be alot more radio shack workers instead of sitting on this board.

Robbie 09-18-2013 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 19805054)
It's wrong to try to reform healthcare, and give more people access to it? It's already starting to show that its going to remove $100 billion from our debt.

Why does it always look like Republicans are on the wrong side of every argument

1. No it's not wrong to try and reform healthcare. But healthcare prices were never reformed, forcing everybody to buy insurance doesn't address that. Matter of fact, the administration gave the Big Pharma and Medical Corp.'s guarantees at the beginning of the process that they could continue to charge U.S. citizens 4 and 5 times MORE than any other country on Earth.

2. Because they always are.

tony286 09-18-2013 06:44 PM

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?p...#axzz2fIbxHE1E
The platform of the 1956 republican party. They would all be rhinos now lol

tony286 09-18-2013 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19805080)
1. No it's not wrong to try and reform healthcare. But healthcare prices were never reformed, forcing everybody to buy insurance doesn't address that. Matter of fact, the administration gave the Big Pharma and Medical Corp.'s guarantees at the beginning of the process that they could continue to charge U.S. citizens 4 and 5 times MORE than any other country on Earth.

Yep thats why if Obama is a socialist he is a damn shitty one. lol

Robbie 09-18-2013 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19805083)
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?p...#axzz2fIbxHE1E
The platform of the 1956 republican party. They would all be rhinos now lol

Who cares what they did in 1956? Their voting base was completely different. Just like the Democrat voting base WAS the South during those years and even into the 1960's.

Bottom line: They were all a bunch of crooked lifetime politicians in 1956 and in 2013...they still are.

Also...keep in mind that neither party follows the Party Platform. It's just there to make dissidents in both parties feel included.

tony286 09-18-2013 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19805085)
Who cares what they did in 1956? Their voting base was completely different. Just like the Democrat voting base WAS the South during those years and even into the 1960's.

Bottom line: They were all a bunch of crooked lifetime politicians in 1956 and in 2013...they still are.

Also...keep in mind that neither party follows the Party Platform. It's just there to make dissidents in both parties feel included.

Oh I agree ,they are all crooks bought and paid for. But the system evolved into this,that to run for office you got to be a whore. The last presidential election cost 2.38 billion dollars. You got to suck someones ass hard to get that type of money.

tony286 09-18-2013 06:58 PM

its funny when I agree with Robbie,I get nothing back. lol

Barefootsies 09-18-2013 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19805096)
its funny when I agree with Robbie,I get nothing back. lol

Perhaps he'll give you a reach around at the Vegas show in Jan.?

:winkwink:

Vendzilla 09-18-2013 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19805083)
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?p...#axzz2fIbxHE1E
The platform of the 1956 republican party. They would all be rhinos now lol

I don't think either party is following any platform

Just some thoughts
Last weekend I went to the Reagan Library. He was a liberal Republican. When he got reelected, only one state didn't vote for him.
They had the Lincoln Exhibit, the first Republican. A lot of what he did would be considered liberal.

Robbie 09-18-2013 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19805096)
its funny when I agree with Robbie,I get nothing back. lol

You get my love old friend...you get my love...

Barefootsies 09-18-2013 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19805104)
Last weekend I went to the Reagan Library.

....is that like Vendzilla porn?

Vendzilla + Reagan + politics in a dark corner of the library... oh la la....

:winkwink:

blackmonsters 09-18-2013 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19805083)
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?p...#axzz2fIbxHE1E
The platform of the 1956 republican party. They would all be rhinos now lol

All that changed forever with Richard Nixon's "Southern Strategy" :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy
Quote:

In American politics, the Southern strategy refers to a Republican Party strategy of gaining political support for certain candidates in the Southern United States by appealing to racism against African Americans.[1][2][3][4][5]

Though the "Solid South" had been a longtime Democratic Party stronghold due to the Democratic Party's defense of slavery before the American Civil War and segregation for a century thereafter, many white Southern Democrats stopped supporting the party following the civil rights plank of the Democratic campaign in 1948 (triggering the Dixiecrats), the African-American Civil Rights Movement, the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and Voting Rights Act of 1965, and desegregation.

The strategy was first adopted under future Republican President Richard Nixon and Republican Senator Barry Goldwater[6][7] in the late 1960s.[8] The strategy was successful in winning 5 formerly Confederate states in both the 1964 and 1968 presidential elections. It contributed to the electoral realignment of some Southern states to the Republican Party, but at the expense of losing more than 90 percent of black voters to the Democratic Party. As the twentieth century came to a close, the Republican Party began trying to appeal again to black voters, though with little success.[


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