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BradM 01-23-2006 11:57 AM

Harper will NOT eat your babies or give you AIDS
 
Liberal propoganda. Scare you into voting for them. Liberals are going to continue to fuck this country.

Vote Conservative.

NDP = throwaway socialist vote (they want to make everything free. especially for crack heads and lazy pieces of welfare shit)
BQ = Seperatists
Liberals = Liars, cheaters and Broker party bullshit (ie feed both sides what they want to hear, and yet NEVER solve ANY problems)

BradM 01-23-2006 11:58 AM

This Liberal party member has seen the error in his ways. Until the Libs change their opinion of the country and its voters, they will never see another vote from me. The way they treat elections is just sad.

fuzebox 01-23-2006 12:01 PM

I'm always surprised when I hear that self employed people want higher taxes, less benefits for business owners, and more social services for criminals and drug addicts.

Dildozer 01-23-2006 12:17 PM

I voted conservative. I'm not anti-gay, i'm not pro-war, however i'm sick of this socialist state where we pay high taxes for nothing, just to make those on welfare comfortable. Fuck them.

Live on the street? Get the fuck off my streets you bum.
Can't feed your children? Well you should've thought of that before he fucked you bareback.
Can't find work? Tough luck hippie.:1orglaugh

BradM 01-23-2006 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dildozer
I voted conservative. I'm not anti-gay, i'm not pro-war, however i'm sick of this socialist state where we pay high taxes for nothing, just to make those on welfare comfortable. Fuck them.

Live on the street? Get the fuck off my streets you bum.
Can't feed your children? Well you should've thought of that before he fucked you bareback.
Can't find work? Tough luck hippie.:1orglaugh

Blamo. It really is this simple. But Canadians are borederline retarded and can't see the black and white in most issues.

I'm also excited to see what the Conservatives do with Native land claim issues. I'd like to see a hearty "FUCK OFF" as opposed to years of negotiation.
You lost the war you lazy drunk pieces of shit, now get to work. You have no more excuses, you've had 125 years to adapt to our way of life.

the Shemp 01-23-2006 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM
Blamo. It really is this simple. But Canadians are borederline retarded and can't see the black and white in most issues.

I'm also excited to see what the Conservatives do with Native land claim issues. I'd like to see a hearty "FUCK OFF" as opposed to years of negotiation.
You lost the war you lazy drunk pieces of shit, now get to work. You have no more excuses, you've had 125 years to adapt to our way of life.

this is what happens when we allow our young people to go to the US for a few months :(

BradM 01-23-2006 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp
this is what happens when we allow our young people to go to the US for a few months :(

It's what happens when the young take a year of polisci and see how the country works. It's pretty sad. If you posed a simple yes or no to the average Canadian:

Should we give land/money to indians because they couldn't defend their own land 200 years ago?

I really wonder how many people would be willing to just hand it all over.

I don't support the current healthcare system. My sister had an anxiety attack that left her temporarily paralyzed this weekend. Took her to ER, she had to wait 3 hours before a doctor even LOOKED at her. So why can't we have an "expidited" line. My parents would have signed over some cash to put her in front of the crack heads, battered women and old people who have nothing better to do than go to the hospital when they are bored.

The country is falling apart, and RADICAL reforms need to take place.

webspider 01-23-2006 12:36 PM

Soon we'll see the results...

Myst 01-23-2006 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM
Blamo. It really is this simple. But Canadians are borederline retarded and can't see the black and white in most issues.

I'm also excited to see what the Conservatives do with Native land claim issues. I'd like to see a hearty "FUCK OFF" as opposed to years of negotiation.
You lost the war you lazy drunk pieces of shit, now get to work. You have no more excuses, you've had 125 years to adapt to our way of life.

amen mang
amen

Myst 01-23-2006 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM
It's what happens when the young take a year of polisci and see how the country works. It's pretty sad. If you posed a simple yes or no to the average Canadian:

Should we give land/money to indians because they couldn't defend their own land 200 years ago?

I really wonder how many people would be willing to just hand it all over.

I don't support the current healthcare system. My sister had an anxiety attack that left her temporarily paralyzed this weekend. Took her to ER, she had to wait 3 hours before a doctor even LOOKED at her. So why can't we have an "expidited" line. My parents would have signed over some cash to put her in front of the crack heads, battered women and old people who have nothing better to do than go to the hospital when they are bored.

The country is falling apart, and RADICAL reforms need to take place.

bear my child please

Myst 01-23-2006 12:40 PM

anyone know how the conservatives will deal with equalization payments?

StuartD 01-23-2006 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM
If you posed a simple yes or no to the average Canadian:

That's the problem... you talk about yes or no, and black or white... this is so not the case. It's not the case in politics in general, but this election?? It's a "which one will ruin our country the least" vote.

None of them are good choices any which way you try to spin it.

Usually one is better than the other... usually one is really really bad... usually.. usually the gray's have a little shading to them... but this election?

It's one big mess of a gray cloud and you gotta just aim in the dark and hope you made the best choice out the really really bad choices.

SilentKnight 01-23-2006 12:40 PM

The biggest joy tonight will be watching that douchebag Stronach hopefully go down in defeat. She deserves to crash 'n burn. I hope voters in her riding give her the bum's rush outta office.

BradM 01-23-2006 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD
That's the problem... you talk about yes or no, and black or white... this is so not the case. It's not the case in politics in general, but this election?? It's a "which one will ruin our country the least" vote.

Well we know which will ruin it the MOST. NDP and BQ. So that leaves you two choices: Liberals or Conservatives. Now consider the track record of lies and deceit and INACTION the last 13 years. The deterioration of relations with our LARGEST trading partner. I really could go on, but there's plenty of material out there by guys with Doctorates in Political Science regarding the same major underlying problems with the liberals.

When you weigh EVERY option and look at the platforms and track records of each party you really need to consider this being the time to make a change.

Harper is not a Bush clone. The middle wing is trying to grasp EVERY SINGLE vote it can from the left and the right. Think about it, how can you be left AND right at the same time? You can't. The entire liberal platform is a lie. :)

xxxdesign-net 01-23-2006 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox
I'm always surprised when I hear that self employed people want higher taxes, less benefits for business owners, and more social services for criminals and drug addicts.

Yeah.. like those are the only issues worth voting for....? You think people like you dont regret voting the Bush administration in? Want to get rapped again with more free trade agreements with the Americas only serving the US interests?? Remember Mulroney? Bush's senior best bud...?

Liberals can run an economy... Conservatives have run it to the ground a couple of times...

Sarah_Jayne 01-23-2006 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM
It's what happens when the young take a year of polisci


:1orglaugh

and that is coming from someone with an actual politics degree

BradM 01-23-2006 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sarah_webinc
:1orglaugh

and that is coming from someone with an actual politics degree

I'm working on the degree, don't try to get cheeky. I'm sure you got stary eyed when you took your first few semesters and realized what was REALLY going on.

the Shemp 01-23-2006 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradM
It's what happens when the young take a year of polisci and see how the country works. It's pretty sad. If you posed a simple yes or no to the average Canadian:

Should we give land/money to indians because they couldn't defend their own land 200 years ago?

I really wonder how many people would be willing to just hand it all over.

I don't support the current healthcare system. My sister had an anxiety attack that left her temporarily paralyzed this weekend. Took her to ER, she had to wait 3 hours before a doctor even LOOKED at her. So why can't we have an "expidited" line. My parents would have signed over some cash to put her in front of the crack heads, battered women and old people who have nothing better to do than go to the hospital when they are bored.

The country is falling apart, and RADICAL reforms need to take place.

poor people arent entitled to health care and housing and education, whats wrong with living on a sheet of cardboard under a bridge...maybe a little dumpster diving for a quick snack...mighty tasty, im sure...

as for the Indians, well they couldnt beat whitey, arrows against bullets is so unfair, Brad... but they became the pawns in a long term social engineering screwup, while their children were sexual playthings for the religious wingnuts at those wonderful residential schools...

Phoenix 01-23-2006 01:01 PM

Liberal all the way.

screw the reform party..they can go jump in the river

xxxdesign-net 01-23-2006 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM
Well we know which will ruin it the MOST. NDP and BQ. So that leaves you two choices: Liberals or Conservatives. Now consider the track record of lies and deceit and INACTION the last 13 years.

the sponsorship scandal? No one in the Martin government was accused by Gomery... and If you think for 1 second that this is as big corruption can get in a government.. you must live in lala land... They are ALL corrupt and if Harper is anything like Bush and co. , the corruption will just increase..Canada will become more and more a moneyocracy... Big business, lobbies running the show... NeoCon Style!


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Originally Posted by BradM
The deterioration of relations with our LARGEST trading partner.

That's call standing up for yourself :2 cents:

Fah King 01-23-2006 01:03 PM

I dont get it giys, How come everyone thinks that BQ is separatist? It isnt so, they don't want Quebec to separate (if they did they would run for the provincial gouvernement). You only think that they are because of their name. What tehy are realy for is the Protection of the french language along side other reforms that have absolutely nothing to do with Quebec. So My vote goes to BQ. Yes I am a socialist, I dont care that much that I am taxed 47%. But atleast I know that I have all those social services (even tho most of them I might never use), just in case that I might need them. And yes I happend to care about the poor and the homeless, they need our help to. Only Ignorent people who think of themselfs will vote Conservative, that will make the gap between rich and poor even larger.

TheLegacy 01-23-2006 01:12 PM

Shhh.. BradM do we really want to have the americans know where Canada is located much less get involved in our political discussions? They still think we are a state of theirs - so any discussion that sounds like we have our own government will be cause for alarm and someone will report us to Homeland Security

StuartD 01-23-2006 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TheLegacy
Shhh.. BradM do we really want to have the americans know where Canada is located much less get involved in our political discussions? They still think we are a state of theirs - so any discussion that sounds like we have our own government will be cause for alarm and someone will report us to Homeland Security

At least he didn't tell them that we have oil.

SilentKnight 01-23-2006 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TheLegacy
Shhh.. BradM do we really want to have the americans know where Canada is located much less get involved in our political discussions? They still think we are a state of theirs - so any discussion that sounds like we have our own government will be cause for alarm and someone will report us to Homeland Security

:1orglaugh

Everytime I get tired of listening to those misguided Americans, I go for a walk around the Brock Monument here in Niagara. Puts it all back into perspective again for me.

sweetums 01-23-2006 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp
poor people arent entitled to health care and housing and education, whats wrong with living on a sheet of cardboard under a bridge...maybe a little dumpster diving for a quick snack...mighty tasty, im sure...

as for the Indians, well they couldnt beat whitey, arrows against bullets is so unfair, Brad... but they became the pawns in a long term social engineering screwup, while their children were sexual playthings for the religious wingnuts at those wonderful residential schools...

Thanks Shemp for clearing up some Canadian history there....I'd also like to add that Canadian Natives did NOT go to war against the colonization nations --the history of Canadian and American Natives is different in that way. They aided both the English and French in their fights against each other. But they never went to War against the colonization nations.

After that Canada institutionalized the Reserve Act and the Residential School Acts. The Reserve Act effectively made Natives prisoner to small areas of land, made it illegal for them to leave their Reserves without permission from the Indian Reserve Agents, made it illegal to sell their livestock or goods. Entire tribes were wiped out by TB, but those people weren't allowed to get medical care. In fact, often the colonizers were responsible for that by handing out blankets infested with turberculosis all in the name of 'helping' them.

The Residential School System allowed Native children to be taken from their home often hundreds of miles away -- they were placed in residential schools run by the Catholics and Protestants. Physical and sexual abuse was rampant - and more often then not those kids were never taught a damn thing that would help them in the 'real world'. The Residential School Act wasn't repealed until the late '60s or early '70s. Canada's history with its Aboriginal peoples isn't one to be proud of - it was one of cultural genocide.

It isn't the history you'll see taught in most of the books in academe -- I'd have to dig up my thesis but I've got some excellent references if anyone's interested.

ronaldo 01-23-2006 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetums
I've got some excellent references if anyone's interested.

Thank you, no. Ignorance is bliss.

Sarah_Jayne 01-23-2006 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM
I'm working on the degree, don't try to get cheeky. I'm sure you got stary eyed when you took your first few semesters and realized what was REALLY going on.


Well, I was raised to be highly interested in politics but to be rather cynical along with that interest. Polisci is just a class. It can give you basic structures but don't take everything in your books or that your prof tells to be true. Use schooling to teach you how to think not what to think.

Sarah_Jayne 01-23-2006 01:28 PM

My personal nightmare would be waking up three or so years from now with conservative govt's in the States, Canada and the UK. As much as people give Blair a hard time for being Bush's 'poodle' it is nothing compared to what it would have been like with a PM that shared Bush's political views. Remember Regan and Thatcher (well you probably are too young but in theory).

SleazyDream 01-23-2006 01:29 PM

if i ever see you brad i'm gona slap you upside of your head.


i always knew you were an idiot.

SilentKnight 01-23-2006 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by sarah_webinc
Well, I was raised to be highly interested in politics but to be rather cynical along with that interest. Polisci is just a class. It can give you basic structures but don't take everything in your books or that your prof tells to be true. Use schooling to teach you how to think not what to think.

Like the bumper sticker says - never let school interfere with your education.

Sarah_Jayne 01-23-2006 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight
Like the bumper sticker says - never let school interfere with your education.


so true..it is like every kid that takes econimics 101 and suddenly thinks he is John Maynard Keynes

Thomas1007 01-23-2006 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp
poor people arent entitled to health care and housing and education, whats wrong with living on a sheet of cardboard under a bridge...maybe a little dumpster diving for a quick snack...mighty tasty, im sure...

as for the Indians, well they couldnt beat whitey, arrows against bullets is so unfair, Brad... but they became the pawns in a long term social engineering screwup, while their children were sexual playthings for the religious wingnuts at those wonderful residential schools...

Very well said. I agree100% .The injustices that are still to this day happening to natives and our poor are incredible. In OUR society there is no need for this to be happening. We are one of the G8 countries should be able to do alot better for our elderly, poor, education etc. The list goes on and on. Obviously after 12 PLUS years the liberals have not succeeded. Something needs to change.
:2 cents:

xxxdesign-net 01-23-2006 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by sarah_webinc
It can give you basic structures but don't take everything in your books or that your prof tells to be true. Use schooling to teach you how to think not what to think.

:winkwink:

SilentKnight 01-23-2006 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sarah_webinc
so true..it is like every kid that takes econimics 101 and suddenly thinks he is John Maynard Keynes

Lemme guess, you've watched and rewatched the bar scene in Good Will Hunting where Matt Damon's character verbally demolishes another smartass pseudo-intellectual in front of his buddies.

Sarah_Jayne 01-23-2006 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight
Lemme guess, you've watched and rewatched the bar scene in Good Will Hunting where Matt Damon's character verbally demolishes another smartass pseudo-intellectual in front of his buddies.


actually I thought that movie was highly overrated so I only watched it once but as someone with a dual major of sociology and politics I had my fill of economic students..lol

SilentKnight 01-23-2006 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sarah_webinc
actually I thought that movie was highly overrated so I only watched it once but as someone with a dual major of sociology and politics I had my fill of economic students..lol

I stayed with psychology rather than political sciences. My head would've exploded and I'd still be in long-term therapy had I taken your combination above.

Phoenix 01-23-2006 01:53 PM

BradM...you should hop in the boat when we send all the separatists back to France


;)

luv ya man..but Reform party? are you high mofo

SilentKnight 01-23-2006 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix
BradM...you should hop in the boat when we send all the separatists back to France

France don't want'em. They disdain Quebecers like retarded cousins.

Our best option is make sure the hole in the hull won't be discovered until they're far, far from the mouth of the St. Lawrence.

ColBigBalls 01-23-2006 02:02 PM

its pointless anyway.. if libs win we have a minority gov again... if PC wins same thing. Either way we will be back at this again in a year or so anyway when Jack laton thinks he can get more seats again.

Myst 01-23-2006 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream
if i ever see you brad i'm gona slap you upside of your head.


i always knew you were an idiot.

brad makes very very good points
you dont live in canada, you dont know what its like to pay 47% in taxes for stupid programs you will never use or need
from equalization payments alberta and ontario pay to the rest of the provinces to social programs for the freeloaders
to have to wait at hospitals for hours to be looked at because you have to wait for the crack addicts and whores..

i agree with brad completely, shit needs to change


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