Thankfully he can take money from everyone else in the country! In fact the harder everyone else works, the more they will have to give him!

How is this not communism?

In theory he would have worked too and have paid in so that when he needed the help it was there. Of course, that is a theory and there are people who cheat the system just like they would treat any system.

I don't like the idea of people dying because they can't afford healthcare or having to decide between an opperation or going broke.

That said, I do realize that it has to be paid for somehow. With the exception of those that are unable to work for valid reasons everyone should be working and contributing into the pot they may need to claim from one day. In theory (again) the system should be there to catch those people have fallen so that they can get up again.

Wait now I am officially confused.

Maybe you don't get where I am coming from. I have no sympathy for people. If you live in a society like today's world and you fall ill and are unable to pay for it then you go in debt. If you can't pay for it, you lose everything. That's how it works. I didn't make it up - the Western World did.
I love how it works. Personally if I had to leech on the rest of the country to pay my bills I'd feel pretty guilty.

Now if you're asking ME, then I doubt I will ever be in the position to need help if something like that were to arise.

If you're speaking generally and by "you" you mean "anyone" well then that's not my problem. I'm not interested in my tax dollars going to pay for Billy's broken ankle. Franky I don't give a shit about Billy, and his parents can pay for his ankle. If they can't, maybe they should stop smoking and drinking and save up to pay for it.
I'm so sorry your grandma needs a liver transplant being 87 years old. That's so sad. But I'm not interested in my tax $ going to help buy her a new one. Her family can pitch in and buy it if they care that much.

See where I am going with this?

This isn't a socialist state. This isn't a communist country. This is dog eat dog, winner take all. I'm glad people seem to feel the need to help others. If that's how you get personal satisfaction - I applaud you for it that's super. But me, I don't give a shit and I will vote accordingly.

If you don't like it, you can disagree with me and throw in some more passive stabs at me. This is my opinion, and plenty more agree with it. (ie, people who aren't jobless hippy pot smoking lazy sacks of shit)

This is it in a nut shell.
Conservative always screw things up and the liberals end up having to fix it
I hope Canada stays smart and lets the least harmful bunch of crooks win.

if you have national health care you do have socalist aspects to your country..might not like it but it is true.

I am not being mean to you but at your age it is really easy to think you will always be as comfortable as you are now. It only takes one accident to leave you disabled and unable to keep yourself as you are used to living. I pray you never learn that that the hard way.

its far from communism. just because canada has social programs doesn't mean its a socialist or communist country. canada has a decent balance, not perfect but people always complain.

for some reason I found " (ie, people who aren't jobless hippy pot smoking lazy sacks of shit)" funny. Is there a Canadian version of Rush Limbaugh that teaches this stuff?

Love the idea that anyone that disagrees is a 'hippy'. Hmm..lets see...I work, never done any drugs beyond medication and I wouldn't exactly call myself lazy. I think you of all people know I work rather long hours and am dedicated to my company. Oh and I pay taxes in two different countries. I am sure I am not the only one in this sort of position that disagrees with you.

Too many board kiddies trying to take 12clicks job lately.

God forbid ANYTHING bad happen to anyone.

But the sad truth is accidents do happen and frankly I am not excited to pay for OTHER PEOPLES accidents. That's not why I work, that's not why I continue to work so my taxes can get jacked year after year so I can pay for Aunt Margarets sore knee all the fucking time.

oh stop, i almost burst my spleen

12clicks is a piece of shit, but he has some points I do agree with (but soooooo many I do not)

THis is so true, when something like that does happen to you or a close family member you sure change your tune fast.

The problem with so many wannabees is that they are making me almost miss him when he isn't around.

You mean when you're the one who now needs everyone else's money? Of course you'd change your tune fast, what kind of comment is that :1orglaugh

I'm sure if I got caught stealing a car I'd start approving of Canada's joke of a justice system too :thumbsup

you mean like going to jail?

No, we'll end up paying less, because we'll stop being a bunch of bleeding hearts giving up our money to the "poor, poor crackheads".


Fxck that.

Canada's healthcare is far from "free"


I owe MSP almost 3k, which I have to pay this month


If I was in the US, insurance for the last 2 years or so would've been cheaper....

So true. This country almost ENCOURAGES people to grow up being pieces of crap living off the system. It's a hell of a lot easier than working for a living.

so its easy living off the system?

I'd love to live in a part of Canada where thieves go to jail...

*edit: hypothetically speaking, I'm declaring non-residency

Oh I know you're trying to be wity. Fucking tool. :)

100.................New Governments:thumbsup

Amen to that

Brad, it's pretty easy to say this when you're living with your parents.

It's fine to say 'get a job, pay your own way' but there's SO much more to it than that. What happens where there are no jobs? What happens when one can't afford an education? What happens when they can't pay their medical bills and go bankrupt? Know what happens? Crime goes up, the court system gets bogged down, the prisons are over populated. Guess who pays for that? Taxpayers.

Did your first year Polisci class teach you about that? Wouldn't it be so much easier to support a public healthcare system, education and job skills training to those who need it? Less pain and suffering along the way, fewer people getting hurt.

I live with my parents? Listen you fat cu.nt, I am pretty tired of your assumptions. I'd love to slap that grin off your socialist face.

Get people who are using the system's resources to start working and paying INTO the system's resources. Exactly.

So long as they're not "Professional" students, USING the system.

A war would cost more than any crackhead. Why don't we check back in 5 years? Liberals reduced taxes by 150billion since 1997, while paying down 70 billion in debt, saving us 3-4 billion / year in interest in the process. Let's see how much will the convervatives do without going back into deficit.

Harper is exactly like bush. We'll lose liberties, sink back into deficit. Canada is going to shit today

No, I'm a sovereignist.

Pssst. -> It's spelled "Separatist" btw. :thumbsup

I'm a sovereignist because I think it's time to liberate the english canadians from 30 years of political oppression coming from the federal governement, using your taxes to pay their friends like Groupeaction and so on.. I don't want to seperate from Canada because of Quebec, but because we want to save you! Vive le Canada Libre! :1orglaugh

Only uneducated morons say that Canada's healthcare is "FREE".

Nothing is free in this world.

Our healthcare is " UNIVERSAL", meaning that the same services are available to everybody, regardless of your income or wealth . :2 cents:


BTW, already on US News, it is said that Canada will cancel Kyoto, ban gay marriages and make pot illegal ....

I see thru my window a " HUGE " erection ..... it belongs to Dubya ....

im going to vote liberal in ten minutes

Blah... again I can't stay mad at you.

Time to take a break from the keyboard Brad.

I hope so, because I voted for conservative. Yes, even evil separatists like me.

Time for an illustrative break:


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I really can't. Even though I may not agree with you - you argue very good points. Gotta respect that. :thumbsup

Kassidy rides my dick and tries to piss me off by throwing in smug little comments I can tell she giggles at night about like "Living with your parents still, teehee?"
Yeah, haven't for years but thanks.

jsut back from voting Liberal, didn;t even knwo the local canadiate, but doesn't matter its the only sane choice!

Well, by threatening violence you come off as somebody that would perhaps still be living at home. It doesn't exactly promote the notion of maturity. I know you are better than that so it does you no favours to threaten to hurt anyone much less a woman.

Take it on the chin and move on.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I think the guy I voted fo rwas on Jerry Springer show :

" I fucked my gay transexual otherspace cousin " ....

This election is about protest vote or " I don't want this party" to be elected ..,..

BTW, I voted BLOC , the only real logical choice .. tough I am in NDG, a sure bet for the liberals .... ( last election, they entered as candidate a overweight bisexual aborted cow, ands it won ! )....

Typical HARPER profile voter.... :2 cents: