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SleazyDream · 12-08-2003, 07:55 PM

I go to the mail today and I get a registered letter from the german gov't concerning my site.

says they are the official adminastrative authority of the german gov't.

seems sleazydream is going to be reviewed by a pannel of 12 germans from different social organizations like religious groups and teachers. if they don't like the site it will be put in the 'index' - apparently a bad place to be.

thye go on to say pornographic content is ONLY legal if viewed through an AVS. this is fucking insane.

they go on to say that if/when I'm included in the 'index' I'm prohibited from using teasers, trailers, or other adverising content and subject to criminal prosecution

wake up people - any concerned parent just has to restrict adult content on IE and no more sleazydream. AVS doesn't do this - any kid can get a credit card but it's a lot harder to bypass and adult lock out procected by password if the parents hide the password and the re-boot disks. Demanding AVS might stop sleazydream - but not the 1,000,000,000,000 other porn sites out there and isn't a feasable option.

thoughts on if i should respond to them or just ignore it?

anyone else get a registered letter from these bozos?

austinth · 12-08-2003, 07:58 PM

No, but if I do I'll let you know.

detoxed · 12-08-2003, 07:58 PM

Tell them Visa doesnt allow AVS anymore. And dont go to Germany

funkmaster · 12-08-2003, 07:58 PM

... yes, we germans are bad !!!

Chris · 12-08-2003, 07:58 PM

I say send em a letter exlaining how parents shoudl do more to block there childrens internet use and learn programs like netnanny and stuff =)

and dont forget to add a " GFY " to it ;)

FreeHugeMovies · 12-08-2003, 07:58 PM

It is German law that content must be behind an AVS.

Sly_RJ · 12-08-2003, 08:00 PM

And people bitch about our laws? Heh...

Mutt · 12-08-2003, 08:00 PM

tell them you hate Jews and have actually killed a few of them - maybe that'll make them leave you and your site alone.

Dirty F · 12-08-2003, 08:00 PM

Yup, i read about them before...

They target many sites....bunch of bullshitters.

ukxtra · 12-08-2003, 08:01 PM

IMHO.....Fuck em

boneprone · 12-08-2003, 08:01 PM

Germans are seeking revenge for last summer's Dialer boom that fucked them oh so hard..

Jesus can be a bitch sometimes.
Even to Germans.

SleazyDream · 12-08-2003, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
tell them you hate Jews and have actually killed a few of them - maybe that'll make them leave you and your site alone.

well i don't hate jews but if that'll work I might give it a try.......

EscortBiz · 12-08-2003, 08:02 PM

just give them a few free user and passes, they love extreme fetish stuff there

funkmaster · 12-08-2003, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
tell them you hate Jews and have actually killed a few of them - maybe that'll make them leave you and your site alone.

... I have more sense of humor coming out of my ass after a great hungryman style chilly ... you just fart every time you open your mouth !!

gornyhuy · 12-08-2003, 08:03 PM

Tell them they should be more focused on their gay-ritual-killing-caniballism problems before they start fucking with the outside world.

Then at the end tell them you got into porn because you were tramautized by your grandparents persecution by the nazis.

Triple 6 · 12-08-2003, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
I go to the mail today and I get a registered letter from the german gov't concerning my site.

says they are the official adminastrative authority of the german gov't.

seems sleazydream is going to be reviewed by a pannel of 12 germans from different social organizations like religious groups and teachers. if they don't like the site it will be put in the 'index' - apparently a bad place to be.

thye go on to say pornographic content is ONLY legal if viewed through an AVS. this is fucking insane.

they go on to say that if/when I'm included in the 'index' I'm prohibited from using teasers, trailers, or other adverising content and subject to criminal prosecution

wake up people - any concerned parent just has to restrict adult content on IE and no more sleazydream. AVS doesn't do this - any kid can get a credit card but it's a lot harder to bypass and adult lock out procected by password if the parents hide the password and the re-boot disks. Demanding AVS might stop sleazydream - but not the 1,000,000,000,000 other porn sites out there and isn't a feasable option.

thoughts on if i should respond to them or just ignore it?

anyone else get a registered letter from these bozos?

all i know is that if a kid wants to look at porn, no filter, no password, no fucking thing will weaken his will to get porn..... it will only make it stronger to get what he/she wants. Besides, filtering should be left with the parents.... If a parent wants his kid to have a computer, then it is the parents responsibility for what goes on with that pc... Sure, a parent canT be there 24/7, oh well, tough fucking luck. Kids will ALWAYS do things they are not supposed to no matter what restrictions u have on them.

summary: FUCK the german gov.

SleazyDream · 12-08-2003, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gornyhuy

Then at the end tell them you got into porn because you were tramautized by your grandparents persecution by the nazis.

now that's funny

http · 12-08-2003, 08:05 PM

is it in english or german?

post the letter, should be fun to read

KingK7 · 12-08-2003, 08:05 PM

scan the letter

SleazyDream · 12-08-2003, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KingK7
scan the letter

maybe later tonight....that's like work

Theo · 12-08-2003, 08:08 PM

you are an official criminal in Germany now

Spunky · 12-08-2003, 08:09 PM

Redirect german traffic to Disney or a avs site ..they didn't say when they are going to review it. Most European traffic is garbage anyways.

AmeliaG · 12-08-2003, 08:11 PM

Unless you plan to tattoo your URL to your forehead before making a trip to Germany, I wouldn't sweat it.

Of course, I had diplomatic immunity when I lived in Germany, so my perspective might be special.

cosis · 12-08-2003, 08:12 PM

i have received two over the years, just threw them away

GTS Mark · 12-08-2003, 08:13 PM

Scheizer!

DH

ukxtra · 12-08-2003, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
you are an official criminal in Germany now

Criminals in Germany? I don't believe it!

dropped9 · 12-08-2003, 08:17 PM

It doesnt beat the arrest warrant from some lil town in germany I got in the mail for one of my domains 2 years ago...

sumphatpimp · 12-08-2003, 08:30 PM

we are still waiting for their explanation of this sonofabitch

Rick Latona · 12-08-2003, 08:33 PM

Sleezy,

Actually it isn't an issue where any kid can get a credit card. The German consumer actually has to send in a few forms of ID and payment into a central registry to truely prove that they are 18. The sites then have to check against that registry. So, it is a true Adult Verification System but nothing like the AVS's that we are used to.

It is still very fucked if not more so.

The Other Steve · 12-08-2003, 08:41 PM

It's one of the joys of the internet - every country is going to start trying to impose their laws on the global internet community.

I think the only advice worth listening to so far was the guy who suggested filtering your traffic - plus I would be cautious if I were you and intended on travelling to Germany at any time.

People can laugh and make jokes of this but it only takes one arrest and conviction to wipe the smiles off everybody's face. You wouldn't want to be that one conviction.

JFK · 12-08-2003, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by funkmaster

... I have more sense of humor coming out of my ass after a great hungryman style chilly ... you just fart every time you open your mouth !!

did some one say Hungryman??

12-08-2003, 08:44 PM

Heard people talk about this before. Sadly the end result is that you can never travel to Germany, unless you want to risk going to jail.

SleazyDream · 12-08-2003, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona
Sleezy,

Actually it isn't an issue where any kid can get a credit card. The German consumer actually has to send in a few forms of ID and payment into a central registry to truely prove that they are 18. The sites then have to check against that registry. So, it is a true Adult Verification System but nothing like the AVS's that we are used to.

It is still very fucked if not more so.

now that's fucked up.

DirtyRider · 12-08-2003, 08:56 PM

Call me silly... but why is Germany concerned about a Canadian/US site?

Sly_RJ · 12-08-2003, 08:58 PM

Being banned from Germany would really suck, but there's really not much you can do about it, is there?

J B · 12-08-2003, 09:06 PM

What department of the German government is the letter from?

Gemini · 12-08-2003, 09:09 PM

Headie... they have you surrounded!! I turned you in for 10k Euros and gave them your addy. DOJ is going to knock about..... 5...4...3...2...1... DUCK FLASH BOMB!!!

Paypaling fines! I found a new niche!

Webby · 12-08-2003, 09:10 PM

Oh shit! Hell.. tell em to

JSA Matt · 12-08-2003, 09:11 PM

I havn't read the entire thread yet... but how exactly does the German government have any authority in the US or Canada?

Elli · 12-08-2003, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona
Sleezy,

Actually it isn't an issue where any kid can get a credit card. The German consumer actually has to send in a few forms of ID and payment into a central registry to truely prove that they are 18. The sites then have to check against that registry. So, it is a true Adult Verification System but nothing like the AVS's that we are used to.

It is still very fucked if not more so.

I wouldn't say that's "more fucked". I'd say that's the right way to make an AVS, if you're going to make one at all.

That sucks about the letter, Sleazy. I don't know if I would respond without consulting a lawyer first.

AmeliaG · 12-08-2003, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream

now that's fucked up.

It is actually really easy to do with the German system because everyone living in the country must carry sort of a miniature passport with them at all times. It is federally-issued and everyone has it, so all adults there are already kind of registered with the government.

Of course, we all know what that registration fetish there has lead to in the past. But at least this is not something just targetted at the adult industry there.

12-08-2003, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JSA Matt
I havn't read the entire thread yet... but how exactly does the German government have any authority in the US or Canada?

They don't, so as long as you don't travel to Germany you are OK.

bill555 · 12-08-2003, 09:26 PM

DU hast meich?

The Other Steve · 12-08-2003, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by evildick

They don't, so as long as you don't travel to Germany you are OK.

At the moment - but what if somewhere down the track a German government wanted to earn a few votes and tried to extradite Sleazy to show that they wanted to clean up the world for German kids - would his government stand in the way?

We're not talking about citizens here - we're talking about those evil low-life scummy pornographers and we all know how worthless they are.

Nothing personal here Sleazy, it's something that may affect us all one day and right now I'm just playing the Devil's Advocate

Gemini · 12-08-2003, 09:41 PM

Call your State Dept SD... see what they say. They'd know how far they take in to consideration any German law.

TheJimmy · 12-08-2003, 09:42 PM

a sign of the times...I'd expect this shit to be coming from the US DOJ shortly...

if they could, they'd be doing it already as well...

Joe Citizen · 12-08-2003, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by funkmaster
... yes, we germans are bad !!!

Fisting, pissing, genocide and sauerkraut... you people have a lot to be ashamed of!

TheMaster · 12-08-2003, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz
just give them a few free user and passes, they love extreme fetish stuff there

German sheisse movie

totally disgusting, saw that shit on video boxes in the Czech Republic

TheMaster · 12-08-2003, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JSA Matt
I havn't read the entire thread yet... but how exactly does the German government have any authority in the US or Canada?

You've got a point, but US law does the same thing, I have to do things to be i rule with US law, even if I don't live there.

Nbritte · 12-08-2003, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
wake up people - any concerned parent just has to restrict adult content on IE and no more sleazydream. AVS doesn't do this - any kid can get a credit card but it's a lot harder to bypass and adult lock out procected by password if the parents hide the password and the re-boot disks. Demanding AVS might stop sleazydream - but not the 1,000,000,000,000 other porn sites out there and isn't a feasable option.

My sister just found this out the hard way when her 14 year old son got her credit card and went to Ifrends. Much better for the parent to block the adult stuff then rely on someone else to watch out for their children

Nbritt

12-08-2003, 07:55 PM	#1
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	Registered letter from German Gov't today concerning SleazyDream.... I go to the mail today and I get a registered letter from the german gov't concerning my site. says they are the official adminastrative authority of the german gov't. seems sleazydream is going to be reviewed by a pannel of 12 germans from different social organizations like religious groups and teachers. if they don't like the site it will be put in the 'index' - apparently a bad place to be. thye go on to say pornographic content is ONLY legal if viewed through an AVS. this is fucking insane. they go on to say that if/when I'm included in the 'index' I'm prohibited from using teasers, trailers, or other adverising content and subject to criminal prosecution wake up people - any concerned parent just has to restrict adult content on IE and no more sleazydream. AVS doesn't do this - any kid can get a credit card but it's a lot harder to bypass and adult lock out procected by password if the parents hide the password and the re-boot disks. Demanding AVS might stop sleazydream - but not the 1,000,000,000,000 other porn sites out there and isn't a feasable option. thoughts on if i should respond to them or just ignore it? anyone else get a registered letter from these bozos? __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog. Last edited by SleazyDream; 12-08-2003 at 07:58 PM..

12-08-2003, 07:58 PM	#2
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12-08-2003, 07:58 PM	#5
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http Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,811	is it in english or german? post the letter, should be fun to read

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12-08-2003, 08:08 PM	#21
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	you are an official criminal in Germany now

12-08-2003, 08:09 PM	#22
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AmeliaG Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 10,533	Unless you plan to tattoo your URL to your forehead before making a trip to Germany, I wouldn't sweat it. Of course, I had diplomatic immunity when I lived in Germany, so my perspective might be special. __________________ GFY Hall of Famer AltStar Hall of Famer Blue Blood's SpookyCash.com Babe photography portfolio

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12-08-2003, 08:17 PM	#27
dropped9 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Your moms box Posts: 26,727	It doesnt beat the arrest warrant from some lil town in germany I got in the mail for one of my domains 2 years ago...

12-08-2003, 08:30 PM	#28
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12-08-2003, 08:33 PM	#29
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12-08-2003, 08:44 PM	#32
evildick Guest Posts: n/a	Heard people talk about this before. Sadly the end result is that you can never travel to Germany, unless you want to risk going to jail.

12-08-2003, 08:56 PM	#34
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12-08-2003, 09:41 PM	#45
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12-08-2003, 09:42 PM	#46
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