Registered letter from German Gov't today concerning SleazyDream....
 

I go to the mail today and I get a registered letter from the german gov't concerning my site.

says they are the official adminastrative authority of the german gov't.

seems sleazydream is going to be reviewed by a pannel of 12 germans from different social organizations like religious groups and teachers. if they don't like the site it will be put in the 'index' - apparently a bad place to be.

thye go on to say pornographic content is ONLY legal if viewed through an AVS. this is fucking insane.

they go on to say that if/when I'm included in the 'index' I'm prohibited from using teasers, trailers, or other adverising content and subject to criminal prosecution


wake up people - any concerned parent just has to restrict adult content on IE and no more sleazydream. AVS doesn't do this - any kid can get a credit card but it's a lot harder to bypass and adult lock out procected by password if the parents hide the password and the re-boot disks. Demanding AVS might stop sleazydream - but not the 1,000,000,000,000 other porn sites out there and isn't a feasable option.


thoughts on if i should respond to them or just ignore it?

anyone else get a registered letter from these bozos?

No, but if I do I'll let you know.

Tell them Visa doesnt allow AVS anymore. And dont go to Germany

... yes, we germans are bad !!!

I say send em a letter exlaining how parents shoudl do more to block there childrens internet use and learn programs like netnanny and stuff =)

and dont forget to add a " GFY " to it ;)

It is German law that content must be behind an AVS. :2 cents:

And people bitch about our laws? Heh...

tell them you hate Jews and have actually killed a few of them - maybe that'll make them leave you and your site alone.

Yup, i read about them before...

They target many sites....bunch of bullshitters.

IMHO.....Fuck em :winkwink:

Germans are seeking revenge for last summer's Dialer boom that fucked them oh so hard..

:thumbsup

Jesus can be a bitch sometimes.
Even to Germans.

well i don't hate jews but if that'll work I might give it a try.......

just give them a few free user and passes, they love extreme fetish stuff there

... I have more sense of humor coming out of my ass after a great hungryman style chilly ... you just fart every time you open your mouth !!

Tell them they should be more focused on their gay-ritual-killing-caniballism problems before they start fucking with the outside world.

Then at the end tell them you got into porn because you were tramautized by your grandparents persecution by the nazis.

all i know is that if a kid wants to look at porn, no filter, no password, no fucking thing will weaken his will to get porn..... it will only make it stronger to get what he/she wants. Besides, filtering should be left with the parents.... If a parent wants his kid to have a computer, then it is the parents responsibility for what goes on with that pc... Sure, a parent canT be there 24/7, oh well, tough fucking luck. Kids will ALWAYS do things they are not supposed to no matter what restrictions u have on them.

summary: FUCK the german gov.

now that's funny

:thumbsup

is it in english or german?


post the letter, should be fun to read

scan the letter

maybe later tonight....that's like work

you are an official criminal in Germany now

Redirect german traffic to Disney or a avs site ..they didn't say when they are going to review it. Most European traffic is garbage anyways.

Unless you plan to tattoo your URL to your forehead before making a trip to Germany, I wouldn't sweat it.

Of course, I had diplomatic immunity when I lived in Germany, so my perspective might be special.

i have received two over the years, just threw them away

Scheizer!

DH

Criminals in Germany? I don't believe it!

It doesnt beat the arrest warrant from some lil town in germany I got in the mail for one of my domains 2 years ago...

we are still waiting for their explanation of this sonofabitch

http://www.viaggio-in-germania.de/hitler.jpg

Sleezy,

Actually it isn't an issue where any kid can get a credit card. The German consumer actually has to send in a few forms of ID and payment into a central registry to truely prove that they are 18. The sites then have to check against that registry. So, it is a true Adult Verification System but nothing like the AVS's that we are used to.

It is still very fucked if not more so.

It's one of the joys of the internet - every country is going to start trying to impose their laws on the global internet community.

I think the only advice worth listening to so far was the guy who suggested filtering your traffic - plus I would be cautious if I were you and intended on travelling to Germany at any time.

People can laugh and make jokes of this but it only takes one arrest and conviction to wipe the smiles off everybody's face. You wouldn't want to be that one conviction.

did some one say Hungryman??:1orglaugh

Heard people talk about this before. Sadly the end result is that you can never travel to Germany, unless you want to risk going to jail.

now that's fucked up.

Call me silly... but why is Germany concerned about a Canadian/US site?

Being banned from Germany would really suck, but there's really not much you can do about it, is there?

What department of the German government is the letter from?

Headie... they have you surrounded!! I turned you in for 10k Euros and gave them your addy. DOJ is going to knock about..... 5...4...3...2...1... DUCK FLASH BOMB!!!

Paypaling fines! I found a new niche!

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh
Oh shit! Hell.. tell em to :321GFY

I havn't read the entire thread yet... but how exactly does the German government have any authority in the US or Canada?

I wouldn't say that's "more fucked". I'd say that's the right way to make an AVS, if you're going to make one at all.

That sucks about the letter, Sleazy. I don't know if I would respond without consulting a lawyer first.

It is actually really easy to do with the German system because everyone living in the country must carry sort of a miniature passport with them at all times. It is federally-issued and everyone has it, so all adults there are already kind of registered with the government.

Of course, we all know what that registration fetish there has lead to in the past. But at least this is not something just targetted at the adult industry there.

They don't, so as long as you don't travel to Germany you are OK.

DU hast meich?

At the moment - but what if somewhere down the track a German government wanted to earn a few votes and tried to extradite Sleazy to show that they wanted to clean up the world for German kids - would his government stand in the way?

We're not talking about citizens here - we're talking about those evil low-life scummy pornographers and we all know how worthless they are.

Nothing personal here Sleazy, it's something that may affect us all one day and right now I'm just playing the Devil's Advocate

Call your State Dept SD... see what they say. They'd know how far they take in to consideration any German law.

a sign of the times...I'd expect this shit to be coming from the US DOJ shortly...

if they could, they'd be doing it already as well...

Fisting, pissing, genocide and sauerkraut... you people have a lot to be ashamed of!

German sheisse movie :1orglaugh

totally disgusting, saw that shit on video boxes in the Czech Republic

You've got a point, but US law does the same thing, I have to do things to be i rule with US law, even if I don't live there.

My sister just found this out the hard way when her 14 year old son got her credit card and went to Ifrends. Much better for the parent to block the adult stuff then rely on someone else to watch out for their children

Nbritt