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Old 09-23-2010, 05:44 AM   #51
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Blah blah blah. Than talk about it in 10 years. Could have, would have, should have.. What ever, dreamer.

Name me one fucking tube thats not based in us that paying on courts orders. Name one, just one !!! Or ask Robbie, he knows better.
50 people who support piracy.
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Old 09-23-2010, 07:49 AM   #52
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Blah blah blah. Than talk about it in 10 years. Could have, would have, should have.. What ever, dreamer.

Name me one fucking tube thats not based in us that paying on courts orders. Name one, just one !!! Or ask Robbie, he knows better.
Hey surfer, times are changing fast. IP blocking is coming.
If this particular scumbag is seen to be a thief (and the courts are finally coming up to speed on this) and then flips off the courts ruling...we'll see what happens.

In case you haven't been paying attention, the courts are just NOW starting to realize what file sharing, torrents, illegit tubes, etc. are doing. That's why rulings are starting to come in one at a time.

You're also missing that they are going after the USERS of the site as well. That is easy money and a big deterrent in the future.

So TNA Flix can either settle or go to court for a nice long expensive battle that they will lose. And as judges and courts and the legal system in general are getting more "tech savvy", just watch what happens.

It won't be long before your precious thieves that you love so much (why the fuck are you even here anyway?) will only be viewable in a couple of tiny countries. Because they are flirting with losing U.S. traffic

And guess who the biggest user of porn is in the world?

Now go in a corner and jerk off with your other surfer friend gideongallery. Because you don't know SHIT about this business or the people who work hard and have had enough.

Surfer...
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Hey surfer, times are changing fast. IP blocking is coming.
If this particular scumbag is seen to be a thief (and the courts are finally coming up to speed on this) and then flips off the courts ruling...we'll see what happens.

In case you haven't been paying attention, the courts are just NOW starting to realize what file sharing, torrents, illegit tubes, etc. are doing. That's why rulings are starting to come in one at a time.

You're also missing that they are going after the USERS of the site as well. That is easy money and a big deterrent in the future.

So TNA Flix can either settle or go to court for a nice long expensive battle that they will lose. And as judges and courts and the legal system in general are getting more "tech savvy", just watch what happens.

It won't be long before your precious thieves that you love so much (why the fuck are you even here anyway?) will only be viewable in a couple of tiny countries. Because they are flirting with losing U.S. traffic

And guess who the biggest user of porn is in the world?

Now go in a corner and jerk off with your other surfer friend gideongallery. Because you don't know SHIT about this business or the people who work hard and have had enough.

Surfer...
Idiot, he doesn't and will not go to US court. He doesn't have to. You can't name a single non-us base porn pirate that settled. No one. NOT ONE !!! You know why? Ah.. fucked it... you're to stupid to waste time on..
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50 people who support piracy.
Im not supporting piracy. Im just being realistic unlike these two idiots.
"We will see".. "sooner or later".. So wake me up when this happens please. Robbie will be shitting in adult diaper when this happens.

Robbie-brainchild, here's one for you. Remember when German authorities where sending out those letters telling owners to take down sites or block German users from it or they will sue you? What did you do with that letter? Did you go to German court and proved them that your big titted hoe is not obscene and adds value to erotic art? Fuck no, you did the same thing I did - threw it in a garbage can.. Where you sober during those days?

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Old 09-23-2010, 09:09 AM   #55
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50 people who support piracy.
50 people supporting freedom :-)
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Idiot, he doesn't and will not go to US court. He doesn't have to. You can't name a single non-us base porn pirate that settled. No one. NOT ONE !!! You know why? Ah.. fucked it... you're to stupid to waste time on..
Moron.
You don't know me...you haven't shown that you have ever even hired a lawyer...you haven't shown that you own any content or have had to deal with pirate sites on a daily basis.

I've done those things.

And yet you are going to call me "stupid" and a "moron" based on your vast experience in these matters? Or what you read on torrent forums?

How about this...wait and see what happens. Instead of coming on a forum that is SUPPOSED to be adult industry and cheerleading for thieves while you piss off guys like me who are fighting for our very livelihood, how about you just wait and see what happens?

In my OPINION....TNA Flix will settle. You can THINK whatever you want and have your opinion that is based on nothing but your love of thieves...but I'm going to stick with what attorneys are telling me and the prevailing shift of the courts over the last few months.

If you can't see that FINALLY the thieves are getting their asses handed to them...then you just keep on thinking that being in foreign country is going to save them from copyright infringement.

One way or another they will pay...either in settlement, in court, or with their traffic being blocked. And I'm pretty sure that settling is going to be the cheapest alternative.

Again FBomb: READ THIS...Yes, they could FOOLISHLY say "fuck you" to the courts ruling. But if they get their traffic turned off, or their hosting company gets pulled in and gets it's pipeline shut down, or they lose the ability to process money (they are charging for "memberships" to download shit they stole!), or a hundred other bad consequences that can happen...they will wish to God they had complied.

That's why I think they will settle. It's the best, easiest, cheapest way for them to continue to make money for at least a little while...because the day is coming fast when all these sites are getting drilled. Guess you didn't keep up on the big international treaty that is being signed by countries around the world. When that gets done...places like Pirate Bay will only be viewable in a handful of small countries. TNA Flix will be right there with them.

But keep cheering for thieves. It really makes you look like a jack ass.
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Robbie-brainchild, here's one for you. Remember when German authorities where sending out those letters telling owners to take down sites or block German users from it or they will sue you? What did you do with that letter? Did you go to German court and proved them that your big titted hoe is not obscene and adds value to erotic art? Fuck no, you did the same thing I did - threw it in a garbage can.. Where you sober during those days?
That is a free speech issue. NOT copyright infringement. Please go back to your thieving torrent forum. You are useless here. And a joke.
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That is a free speech issue. NOT copyright infringement. Please go back to your thieving torrent forum. You are useless here. And a joke.
Its not about freedom of speech, Its about COURT JURISDICTION !!!

Brainless idiot.

Kids don't do drugs !!!
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freedom of what? Stealing?
Morons like Robbie think that just because im telling them how things are these days Im supporting a thief. Ok, so I guess to be a good guy you have to rave about how bad we're going to get them, what we are going to do to those bustards.. then time comes and nothing happens. Robbi once again will look like a fool with his "I should have, could have".. Thats like telling a child with iq of 60 that he's the next Einstein.
Robbi can't name a single tube or pirate site that settled and paid, yet he's dreaming big about this one. Clown.
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Its not about freedom of speech, Its about COURT JURISDICTION !!!

Brainless idiot.

Kids don't do drugs !!!
No it's not. You were talking about censorship. Hard to enforce that in most Western countries, especially when you are dealing with countries that are all part of a collective.

But copyright infringement? Whole different ballgame.

Now go back to armchair lawyering with gideongallery. You two are perfect for each other.

p.s.: LOVE your debating "style"
You have no experience with anything, so when someone says you don't know what you're talking about you call them names and talk about being "sober" and "doing drugs" Oh so witty! What a cool guy you are and you have humbled me with your clever comebacks.
What you say has no bearing on anything. We will see what happens. Watch and see.
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San Francisco-based gay porn studio Titan Media and TitanMen.com won a $1.35 million judgment in U.S. District Court this week in an intellectual property rights case against Antelope Media LLC and Thorsten Palicki and Maik Herrmann, propietors of an adult "tube" site.
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Says who? You? The guy that wasted half of his life on hookers and blow. Oh yes, I forgot, you have a TGP site and a paysite. Excuse meeeeee. I guess you are the guy that knows it all.
Censorship is a law. Even here in the US it is. Why don't you go visit Paul in jail and ask him. So if some thing are illegal in germany, they are ILLEGAL !!! Not here but there. If this guy is running Pirate Bay, like someone said previously, you can be sure as hell this tns site is a piss in a bucket. But you're too dumb to understand that. You're dismissed. Go troll someone else with your "knowledge"
Oh ye, Name me one fucking site that paid out. NAME ME JUST ONE, OH THE GREAT ONE !!!!
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San Francisco-based gay porn studio Titan Media and TitanMen.com won a $1.35 million judgment in U.S. District Court this week in an intellectual property rights case against Antelope Media LLC and Thorsten Palicki and Maik Herrmann, propietors of an adult "tube" site.
Here come another idiot
"Her judgment was rendered in default after the defendants failed to respond to the suit,"

And how much did they pay ? Nothing. None.. nada.. Zero.. Big fat zero.
I can sue you right now and if you don't show up I get a default judgment.
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where is monstercocktube.com now


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titan also got a settlement out of gayforit.com
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Says who? You? The guy that wasted half of his life on hookers and blow. Oh yes, I forgot, you have a TGP site and a paysite. Excuse meeeeee. I guess you are the guy that knows it all.
I've had my hands also in a content company from 1998 to 2002 and a hosting company from 2001 to 2004.

So let's see: Affiliate making millions over the years..CHECK
Freesite owner: CHECK
Paysite owner: CHECK
Content Producer (and all the fun 2257 and legal things that go with that): CHECK
Video Editor: CHECK
Hosting Company Experience: CHECK
Program Owner: CHECK

Yeah, FBomb...I'd say I've forgotten more about this business than you will ever know. But nice try surfer, nice try.
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Ah, another crackhead. We are talking about sites that actually paid restitution.
Ask some gay guys where cock tube went. probably some other domain. All you have to do is fic config.php file with new domain and path, and here you have it. New tube with same shit load of videos.
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a few gay programs have got money. domains out of tubes. use google.


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And by the way FBomb...what do you mean "wasted" half my life on hookers and blow?

Not a second of that time was wasted! And I'm STILL doing both every chance I get.

Maybe that's your problem? Corn cob up the ass? Why don't you come to Vegas and let me take you out and show you a good time so you can lighten up a bit?
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I've had my hands also in a content company from 1998 to 2002 and a hosting company from 2001 to 2004.

So let's see: Affiliate making millions over the years..CHECK
Freesite owner: CHECK
Paysite owner: CHECK
Content Producer (and all the fun 2257 and legal things that go with that): CHECK
Video Editor: CHECK
Hosting Company Experience: CHECK
Program Owner: CHECK

Yeah, FBomb...I'd say I've forgotten more about this business than you will ever know. But nice try surfer, nice try.

yet you still have to name at least ONE, just one SITE in order to have a little shred of evidence you're on to something here.
Nice resume, crackhead. Nice resume.
freesite owner, video editor. Wooptywooo... The whale no one ever seen. You forgot a few:

Cock Stunt: CHECK
Audio Editor: CHECK
Watermark guru: CHECK
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idiot.
Name one. Just one, idiot. Use google and post results here.
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And by the way FBomb...what do you mean "wasted" half my life on hookers and blow?

Not a second of that time was wasted! And I'm STILL doing both every chance I get.

Maybe that's your problem? Corn cob up the ass? Why don't you come to Vegas and let me take you out and show you a good time so you can lighten up a bit?
I dont do drugs and drink on weekends only.Helps me focus. but thanks for the offer.
PS: there is no problem here. I just chose to be realist and not live in la-la land.
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The whale no one ever seen.
I've been seen by many many programs over the years that made millions with me.

And would you be the MINNOW that no one has ever seen?

Now please go jerk off to a pirate site and leave from here because you don't belong in our business.
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I dont do drugs and drink on weekends only.Helps me focus. but thanks for the offer.
PS: there is no problem here. I just chose to be realist and not live in la-la land.
I never asked you to "Do drugs"
You're obviously a fucking nerd that wouldn't do that. And I never drink except weekends either...I own my company and work everyday here at my casita/office.
I was talking about Vegas on a weekend.

At least let me TRY to get you laid. You have a lot of pent up frustration.

I'll buy you a couple of those fruit punchy girly drinks so you don't get too drunk and vomit everywhere and hire a nice 18 year old hooker with a flat chest and flat butt so you can impress her with your manhood.

It'll do you good.
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Question, the Jon does they are going after how do they get their personal info? Has there been an ISP yet who gave in on that?
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FBomb is really one of my fake nics that I use to be my foil.
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I never asked you to "Do drugs"
You're obviously a fucking nerd that wouldn't do that. And I never drink except weekends either...I own my company and work everyday here at my casita/office.
I was talking about Vegas on a weekend.

At least let me TRY to get you laid. You have a lot of pent up frustration.

I'll buy you a couple of those fruit punchy girly drinks so you don't get too drunk and vomit everywhere and hire a nice 18 year old hooker with a flat chest and flat butt so you can impress her with your manhood.

It'll do you good.
Robbie, I get plenty, so don't you worry. Might not be dp anal on camera for everyone to see, but I do get enough. And if you want to think of me as nerd Im fine with that as well.
Just don't get your panties in the bunch. Come time I will bring this topic back for some good laughs at you..
Do a line for me this weekend.
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It'll do you good.
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Question, the Jon does they are going after how do they get their personal info? Has there been an ISP yet who gave in on that?

Yes ISP's are handing info like that over now if court ordered. Much like they did in RIAA cases. This will be further proven based on the rash of attempts made recently by Steve, LFP, and Grooby (sp?)
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Question, the Jon does they are going after how do they get their personal info? Has there been an ISP yet who gave in on that?
Yes, ISPs have provided information on users who have allegedly uploaded infringing materials. Under the DMCA, once served with a proper subpoena, the ISP has no real choice other than to fork over any identifying information that they have on such users.

Here's the text of the relevant section of code (which is 17 USC §512(h), for those keeping score at home):

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(1) Request. ? A copyright owner or a person authorized to act on the owner's behalf may request the clerk of any United States district court to issue a subpoena to a service provider for identification of an alleged infringer in accordance with this subsection.

(2) Contents of request ? The request may be made by filing with the clerk ?

(A) a copy of a notification described in subsection (c)(3)(A);

(B) a proposed subpoena; and

(C) a sworn declaration to the effect that the purpose for which the subpoena is sought is to obtain the identity of an alleged infringer and that such information will only be used for the purpose of protecting rights under this title.

(3) Contents of subpoena. ? The subpoena shall authorize and order the service provider receiving the notification and the subpoena to expeditiously disclose to the copyright owner or person authorized by the copyright owner information sufficient to identify the alleged infringer of the material described in the notification to the extent such information is available to the service provider.

(4) Basis for granting subpoena. ? If the notification filed satisfies the provisions of subsection (c)(3)(A), the proposed subpoena is in proper form, and the accompanying declaration is properly executed, the clerk shall expeditiously issue and sign the proposed subpoena and return it to the requester for delivery to the service provider.

(5) Actions of service provider receiving subpoena. ? Upon receipt of the issued subpoena, either accompanying or subsequent to the receipt of a notification described in subsection (c)(3)(A), the service provider shall expeditiously disclose to the copyright owner or person authorized by the copyright owner the information required by the subpoena, notwithstanding any other provision of law and regardless of whether the service provider responds to the notification.

(6) Rules applicable to subpoena. ? Unless otherwise provided by this section or by applicable rules of the court, the procedure for issuance and delivery of the subpoena, and the remedies for noncompliance with the subpoena, shall be governed to the greatest extent practicable by those provisions of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure governing the issuance, service, and enforcement of a subpoena duces tecum.
To not respond to such a subpoena would probably not be the best business decision an ISP can make. The courts usually aren't particularly amused by that sort of thing.
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Old 09-23-2010, 11:12 AM   #82
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Entertaining thread.

Question, the Jon does they are going after how do they get their personal info? Has there been an ISP yet who gave in on that?
On court order they will.
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Old 09-23-2010, 11:20 AM   #83
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Yes, ISPs have provided information on users who have allegedly uploaded infringing materials. Under the DMCA, once served with a proper subpoena, the ISP has no real choice other than to fork over any identifying information that they have on such users.

Here's the text of the relevant section of code (which is 17 USC §512(h), for those keeping score at home):



To not respond to such a subpoena would probably not be the best business decision an ISP can make. The courts usually aren't particularly amused by that sort of thing.
Thanks for that, wasn't too sure about that.
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how about all those ads on those sites. they live from those ads , but also some large programs advertising in there.
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If the American's were able to haul in Marc Emery for selling pot seeds to the USA from Canada. They will bring in the pirates as well.
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If the American's were able to haul in Marc Emery for selling pot seeds to the USA from Canada. They will bring in the pirates as well.
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A lot of damage has already been done, but I have a feeling things are starting to change, seems the gay companies are leading the way.
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Because they aren't in Cyprus, they may have incorporated there but they aren't there. In the end they will slip up somewhere in their paper trail, and then they will get hammered...
An Israeli citizen owns it.
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Blah blah blah. Than talk about it in 10 years. Could have, would have, should have.. What ever, dreamer.

Name me one fucking tube thats not based in us that paying on courts orders. Name one, just one !!! Or ask Robbie, he knows better.
You're fucking clueless dude. What are you like 16 years old? You can't foresee shit further than 6 months into the future? Things are not going to stay this way. Shit like this just does not last. SO enjoy your free movie downloads and mp3's while they last. I am. It will take years for things to come around, but they will, and when they do somebody is going to take the fall. Unfortunately it will probably come by way of some bullshit international pact like ACTA, which is generally a crock of fucking shit. Money talks, and the longer the pirates openly spit the the face of multi-million dollar industries, the more pressure will be put on the law-makers to do something about it. Whether that means pursuing the downloaders or the distributors, we'll have to see. But you can bet your ass they will.

So you want to call me a dreamer? You're the one fucking dreaming chump...
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Oh ye, Name me one fucking site that paid out. NAME ME JUST ONE, OH THE GREAT ONE !!!!
Hey Fbomb

Looks like Mansef/Manwin is SETTLING (paying out) to Pink Visual over Pornhub and their other tubes.

Is that good enough for you "OH THE GREAT ONE"
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OK, so not in Cyprus. In Ukraine. You really think they will cave in and pay the fine. What ever.
Unless the money is hidden in a mattress in a hole in a cave next to Bin Laden himself, the idea that you cannot go after offshore banks is ridiculous. All of them. People that somehow think being "offshore" in tax havens under obscure corporate identities is somehow going to protect them are just fooling themselves and probably just not familiar with the reality of the situation.
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Hey Fbomb

Looks like Mansef/Manwin is SETTLING (paying out) to Pink Visual over Pornhub and their other tubes.

Is that good enough for you "OH THE GREAT ONE"
ummmm... I hate to be the one to say I told you all so but...
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Name one. Just one, idiot. Use google and post results here.
We have a firm that has won settlements for us. I won't say more than that and I can't. I don't care if you don't believe me because that won't add or subtract one cent from my bottom line.

Am I going to retire on the income? No. But those we tagged aren't going to be either.
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Unless the money is hidden in a mattress in a hole in a cave next to Bin Laden himself, the idea that you cannot go after offshore banks is ridiculous. All of them. People that somehow think being "offshore" in tax havens under obscure corporate identities is somehow going to protect them are just fooling themselves and probably just not familiar with the reality of the situation.
Yep, we all thought the same thing about opening merch accounts in Cypress to do x-sells. That didn't work out too well either.
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