President Obama to send 1,200 troops to Arizona-Mexico border

[brassmonkey]

lets see what names they call obama the leader
its about fucking time!
President Barack Obama will deploy up to 1,200 National Guard troops to help secure the Southwest Border against Mexican drug cartels, White House officials said Tuesday.

Obama also is requesting that Congress approve $500 million for enhanced border protection and law enforcement activities as part of an emergency spending bill expected to come to the Senate floor this week.

Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer, Texas Gov. Rick Perry and a bipartisan group of border state lawmakers in Congress have been urging Obama to send in National Guard troops to respond to the high-profile violence along the U.S.-Mexico border. More than 20,000 Mexicans have died in drug-related violence, and Arizona law enforcement officials have complained of increased home-invasion robberies and other crime in the state's border towns.

"Washington has heard our message, the president has responded with more boots on the ground, and we're going to work to make sure that we continue to take border security seriously," said Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz.

Giffords has been calling for the deployment since immediately after the March 27 murder of Cochise County rancher Robert Krentz.The White House has not said exactly where the troops will be stationed, but Giffords said no place is as desperate for help as Southern Arizona.

While Giffords welcomed the announcement, the White House action is not expected to satisfy everyone. Arizona Sens. John McCain and Jon Kyl, both Republicans, unveiled a border action plan last month calling for the immediate deployment of 3,000 National Guard troops ? more than twice as many as Obama is sending.

In 2006, President George W. Bush dispatched National Guard troops to the border to help with support duties until the Border Patrol was able to increase its staffing levels. The Border Patrol today has more than 20,000 agents nationwide, the vast majority of whom are assigned to guard the U.S.-Mexico border.

The border issue is one with far-reaching political ramifications in Arizona, which is about to enter its hotly contested mid-term election season.

Arizona Attorney General Terry Goddard, who is the presumptive Democratic nominee for Governor, called a press conference at 1:30 to discuss the issue, and put out a news release in which he lauded a letter he sent to the Obama administration on April 20, outlining the state's border security needs. He is expected to face the winner of the crowded Republican primary in a bid for the state's highest elected office this fall.

"These decisions are extremely important in the fight against border crime as recommended in my letter to the President last month," Goddard said. "I have been calling for these actions for more than a year, and I'm pleased the Administration is listening.

One person who was oddly silent Tuesday morning: Brewer.

Her office has not yet released any kind of comment on the troop announcement, despite the fact that the Governor has been all over local and national airwaves in recent weeks blasting the administration's inaction on the border.

Brewer, who has seen her job approval ratings soar in the wake of signing Senate Bill 1070, the state's tough new immigration law, has jumped on the immigration issue as a major campaign cornerstone. Her office has previously released multiple letters she has written to the Administration and Congressional leaders, including one dated last Thursday in which she asked the federal government to reallocate some of the nation's network of OH-58 Kiowa helicopters to Arizona for use in border missions.

Brewer, in interviews with The Arizona Republic, has said that the federal government has "turned a blind eye" to her requests and that she has never "been dignified with a response."

A spokesman for her office told the Associated Press that the governor hadn't been told of the move prior to her office being contacted by the media, and that he had no immediate comment.

The White House did not say Tuesday what prompted President Obama to authorize the deployment.

But an administration official released a statement that said deploying the guard is part of the President's "strategic and integrated approach" to border security.

"(It) will provide immediate enhancement to the unprecedented and ongoing border protection and security efforts that over the last 16 months have increased pressure on illegal trafficking organizations," the officials said, adding, "it will also help build on a complement the strong security partnership with Mexico on display during last week's State Visit.

The White House said it plans to continue to work with Congress to fix the nation's immigration system through "comprehensive reform."

[TheDoc]

+1 for the mighty leader.

[Babaganoosh]

Outstanding. It's about time.

[seeandsee]

obama will protect people!

obama 2012

obama is lizard ))))))

[kristin]

Yah!! About time.

At least one person the Northeast actually sees that something is wrong with our borders in Arizona.

[tranza]

He should be sending help to fix the BP mess instead....

[michael.kickass]

Clever decision.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by tranza

He should be sending help to fix the BP mess instead....

He has authorized the national guard, coast guard, etc.. that's all him, he has made a commission, sent state funds for all types of crap.. he is of course limited in what he can do. It's not like he could pull the entire fleet to clean this up when the fleet doesn't have anything to clean it up with. And I'm sure the man can handle more than one situation at a time. We best hope so at least.

[kristin]

Originally Posted by tranza

He should be sending help to fix the BP mess instead....

LOL, seriously? What do you expect 1200 troops to do for the oil spill? Use themselves to clog the hole?

[Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Damn liberals.

[smutnut]

You need to clean Oil and KILL MEXICANS at the same time, right?

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by Fbomb

Damn liberals.

You might want to tell the media that it's the liberals, they seem pretty hard set that this is a right wing/republican agenda.

I guess it would probably shock most people to know it's a huge percentage of liberals that support this as well.

[marketsmart]

Originally Posted by kristin

LOL, seriously? What do you expect 1200 troops to do for the oil spill? Use themselves to clog the hole?

maybe they could clog your hole.....









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[Nikki_Licks]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

lets see what names they call obama the leader
its about fucking time!
President Barack Obama will deploy up to 1,200 National Guard troops to help secure the Southwest Border against Mexican drug cartels, White House officials said Tuesday.

Obama also is requesting that Congress approve $500 million for enhanced border protection and law enforcement activities as part of an emergency spending bill expected to come to the Senate floor this week.

Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer, Texas Gov. Rick Perry and a bipartisan group of border state lawmakers in Congress have been urging Obama to send in National Guard troops to respond to the high-profile violence along the U.S.-Mexico border. More than 20,000 Mexicans have died in drug-related violence, and Arizona law enforcement officials have complained of increased home-invasion robberies and other crime in the state's border towns.

"Washington has heard our message, the president has responded with more boots on the ground, and we're going to work to make sure that we continue to take border security seriously," said Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz.

Giffords has been calling for the deployment since immediately after the March 27 murder of Cochise County rancher Robert Krentz.The White House has not said exactly where the troops will be stationed, but Giffords said no place is as desperate for help as Southern Arizona.

While Giffords welcomed the announcement, the White House action is not expected to satisfy everyone. Arizona Sens. John McCain and Jon Kyl, both Republicans, unveiled a border action plan last month calling for the immediate deployment of 3,000 National Guard troops ? more than twice as many as Obama is sending.

In 2006, President George W. Bush dispatched National Guard troops to the border to help with support duties until the Border Patrol was able to increase its staffing levels. The Border Patrol today has more than 20,000 agents nationwide, the vast majority of whom are assigned to guard the U.S.-Mexico border.

The border issue is one with far-reaching political ramifications in Arizona, which is about to enter its hotly contested mid-term election season.

Arizona Attorney General Terry Goddard, who is the presumptive Democratic nominee for Governor, called a press conference at 1:30 to discuss the issue, and put out a news release in which he lauded a letter he sent to the Obama administration on April 20, outlining the state's border security needs. He is expected to face the winner of the crowded Republican primary in a bid for the state's highest elected office this fall.

"These decisions are extremely important in the fight against border crime as recommended in my letter to the President last month," Goddard said. "I have been calling for these actions for more than a year, and I'm pleased the Administration is listening.

One person who was oddly silent Tuesday morning: Brewer.

Her office has not yet released any kind of comment on the troop announcement, despite the fact that the Governor has been all over local and national airwaves in recent weeks blasting the administration's inaction on the border.

Brewer, who has seen her job approval ratings soar in the wake of signing Senate Bill 1070, the state's tough new immigration law, has jumped on the immigration issue as a major campaign cornerstone. Her office has previously released multiple letters she has written to the Administration and Congressional leaders, including one dated last Thursday in which she asked the federal government to reallocate some of the nation's network of OH-58 Kiowa helicopters to Arizona for use in border missions.

Brewer, in interviews with The Arizona Republic, has said that the federal government has "turned a blind eye" to her requests and that she has never "been dignified with a response."

A spokesman for her office told the Associated Press that the governor hadn't been told of the move prior to her office being contacted by the media, and that he had no immediate comment.

The White House did not say Tuesday what prompted President Obama to authorize the deployment.

But an administration official released a statement that said deploying the guard is part of the President's "strategic and integrated approach" to border security.

"(It) will provide immediate enhancement to the unprecedented and ongoing border protection and security efforts that over the last 16 months have increased pressure on illegal trafficking organizations," the officials said, adding, "it will also help build on a complement the strong security partnership with Mexico on display during last week's State Visit.

The White House said it plans to continue to work with Congress to fix the nation's immigration system through "comprehensive reform."

The only problem is, is that they may not be able to use deadly force. If I recall correctly, in the past when the national guard was on the border and could not return fire to those throwing rocks or shooting in the general area of the National guard. They also had to sit with hands tied and watch illegals cross over the border...hopefully not any more!

Any confrontation should be dealt with swift action and no more bullshitting around!
I hope the government has grown some balls and given the word to use deadly force when needed.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by smutnut

You need to clean Oil and KILL MEXICANS at the same time, right?

damn

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

I guess it would probably shock most people to know it's a huge percentage of liberals that support this as well.

because when you look below the surface you find out most Americans support kicking out illegals by the millions, its the politicians and business owners who fight the illegal immigration stuff. Americans by large support immigration but not illegals.

Then when you look deeper you realize the people who are upset about this stff usually have a grandma and grandpa living in the backroom of thier house who are illegal.

The descendants of anchor babies are the ones upset by this new Arizona law not Americans.

[RyuLion]

Congratz!!!!!

[fatfoo]

The US-Mexican border sounds like a dangerous place with drug-related violence. I have also heard stories of drug-related violence in North American cities. Not only are drugs harmful to health directly, but doing drugs could also result in drug-related violence. Good luck.

[Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

You might want to tell the media that it's the liberals, they seem pretty hard set that this is a right wing/republican agenda.

I guess it would probably shock most people to know it's a huge percentage of liberals that support this as well.

I am on my way to spread the word.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by marketsmart

maybe they could clog your hole.....









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[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks

The only problem is, is that they may not be able to use deadly force. If I recall correctly, in the past when the national guard was on the border and could not return fire to those throwing rocks or shooting in the general area of the National guard. They also had to sit with hands tied and watch illegals cross over the border...hopefully not any more!

Any confrontation should be dealt with swift action and no more bullshitting around!
I hope the government has grown some balls and given the word to use deadly force when needed.

oh yes! i hope so

[Caligari]

Originally Posted by smutnut

You need to clean Oil and KILL MEXICANS at the same time, right?

Kill baby Kill...er i mean Drill baby Drill!

The Border Patrol today has more than 20,000 agents nationwide, the vast majority of whom are assigned to guard the U.S.-Mexico border.

alright so how many of those are on the AZ border? and on top of everyone else who is supposedly keeping illegals from coming in you get another 1500 national guard on the AZ border now.
we will see, but if another 1500 freaking guards can't effectively curtail the flow of illegals, that would x amount of the border patrol have to be taking money, or they're blind, or they are really incompetent.

This is 310 miles of border we are talking about here for fucks sake.

[Hawkeye]

30,000 more troops for Afghanistan and a mere 1200 to actually protect America.

Pathetic.

[baddog]

They are not there to stem the tide of illegals are they?

[DudeRick]

They?re not going to guard the boarder, Obama is socializing the taco industry...

[JP-pornshooter]

one would think since they are there they will also apprehend illegal border crossing.

in a way, it could be a way of responding to the new AZ law (which is not yet in effect btw). meaning OK lets help to fix the problem so this law will go away...

[LickMyBalls]

Originally Posted by marketsmart

maybe they could clog your hole.....



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[IllTestYourGirls]

hurray he is sending 1/6 of what they need! Praise be Obama! Drink up kiddies drink up.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

hurray he is sending 1/6 of what they need! Praise be Obama! Drink up kiddies drink up.

dont drink u can have mine

[LoveSandra]

Originally Posted by michael.kickass

Clever decision.

[brassmonkey]

bump this up

[crockett]

Originally Posted by kristin

LOL, seriously? What do you expect 1200 troops to do for the oil spill? Use themselves to clog the hole?

You are right what we need in that situation, is tea baggers. I propose we stuff all the tea baggers we can find and their little signs into the hole. I think I'm gonna call that BP suggestion hotline!

[Vendzilla]

Obama is sending 1200 troops
Bush sent 6000, the border must be getting smaller?

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Obama is sending 1200 troops
Bush sent 6000, the border must be getting smaller?

wtf was that idiot thinking? Were they supposed to hold hands in a long line or something, to make sure no one crossed through?

Bush = Fail

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

He has authorized the national guard, coast guard, etc.. that's all him, he has made a commission, sent state funds for all types of crap.. he is of course limited in what he can do. It's not like he could pull the entire fleet to clean this up when the fleet doesn't have anything to clean it up with. And I'm sure the man can handle more than one situation at a time. We best hope so at least.

Yeah, Obama has done ALL that, but not one idea how to stop the leak.

It's simple, take away BP's license to do business in the US till the leak is plugged, I bet it would be fixed in a couple days, this is about how much money they will loose if they plug it in a way that won't let them go for it later

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Obama is sending 1200 troops
Bush sent 6000, the border must be getting smaller?

its called Surveillance if their in certain areas they can assist the border patrol

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Yeah, Obama has done ALL that, but not one idea how to stop the leak.

It's simple, take away BP's license to do business in the US till the leak is plugged, I bet it would be fixed in a couple days, this is about how much money they will loose if they plug it in a way that won't let them go for it later

He doesn't have to do ALL that, no president has ever done all that and no president will ever do all that. I'm sure like most of us, he has no idea how to stop the leak... that would probably be the most logical answer seeming nobody would actually want this to happen for so long.

If he pulled BP's lic to do business here you would have a lot of stranded Americans without food, oil, gas, supplies, etc and that would create a huge ass fire storm.

It's a bit crazy to think anyone is just allowing this to happen... the cost of cleaning it up will be far far far greater than just stopping it and starting fresh.

[sperbonzo]

I will keep my fingers crossed....

Bush promised all the same stuff about the borders, and within 6 months, the troops were pulled, and the additions to the border fence and security NEVER HAPPENED.

I will wait and see....



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[kristin]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Obama is sending 1200 troops
Bush sent 6000, the border must be getting smaller?

Didn't Bush send 6000 troops along the Arizona, New Mexico, Texas border?

Cause 1200 are only coming to Arizona.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

He doesn't have to do ALL that, no president has ever done all that and no president will ever do all that. I'm sure like most of us, he has no idea how to stop the leak... that would probably be the most logical answer seeming nobody would actually want this to happen for so long.

If he pulled BP's lic to do business here you would have a lot of stranded Americans without food, oil, gas, supplies, etc and that would create a huge ass fire storm.

It's a bit crazy to think anyone is just allowing this to happen... the cost of cleaning it up will be far far far greater than just stopping it and starting fresh.

I take it you think BP is the only gas station chain?

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

I will keep my fingers crossed....

Bush promised all the same stuff about the borders, and within 6 months, the troops were pulled, and the additions to the border fence and security NEVER HAPPENED.

I will wait and see....



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Bush had the troops there from 06 to 08, thats 2 years, not 6 months

Originally Posted by kristin

Didn't Bush send 6000 troops along the Arizona, New Mexico, Texas border?

Cause 1200 are only coming to Arizona.

You might want to read this http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_590237.html

[LoveSandra]

obama is fucked

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I take it you think BP is the only gas station chain?

Nope, but I know other gas stations can't just take other peoples gas, and I know supply trucks have contracts with gas stations/refineries to move supplies and other stations aren't going to have the extra gas needed to cover the supply.

I also know they don't supply just gas for cars, but natural gas for homes, oil for cars and huge work machines, and other crap all over the Country and the oil pile lines in Alaska which if you cut that off would basically shut down an extreme oil supply.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

You might want to read this http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_590237.html

CBS seems to know they're coming to Arizona...

We have national guard here, I have seen them with my own eyes. As the article says, having the troops in the area helps... which is why the new law requests 1500 more troops.

Now if Obama is sending another 1200 troops, on top of the other 1500 requested, on top of the 6000 more the state is requesting, that is on top of the 3000 already here... that's a hell of a beef up.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Nope, but I know other gas stations can't just take other peoples gas, and I know supply trucks have contracts with gas stations/refineries to move supplies and other stations aren't going to have the extra gas needed to cover the supply.

I also know they don't supply just gas for cars, but natural gas for homes, oil for cars and huge work machines, and other crap all over the Country and the oil pile lines in Alaska which if you cut that off would basically shut down an extreme oil supply.

But you still haven't said if that wouldn't light a fire under the asses of the exec's at BP?
I'm sure that it would raise prices and other business's would scramble to meet the demand, but right now, demand is low, the gas prices reflect that

CBS seems to know they're coming to Arizona...

We have national guard here, I have seen them with my own eyes. As the article says, having the troops in the area helps... which is why the new law requests 1500 more troops.

Now if Obama is sending another 1200 troops, on top of the other 1500 requested, on top of the 6000 more the state is requesting, that is on top of the 3000 already here... that's a hell of a beef up.

LOL, yeah, CBS knows more than the governor of Arizona, don't you think that's a little sad that she learned about it from the press? That shit for brains president told the press first before telling the governor he was sending troops to her state and other border states.
You notice you're using the words "IF" "Requested" and "Requesting". Where can I find out about the 3000 troops already there?

The president gets a big FAIL on this so far, lets hope he can pull his head out of his ass and do all that's requested.
I mean whats it going to take to get across to them that someone can walk across the border with a nuke?

[czarina]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

Arizona law enforcement officials have complained of increased home-invasion robberies and other crime in the state's border towns.

so they're saying the Mexicans are crossing the border to burglarize their homes? Yeah, right!

[kristin]

Originally Posted by czarina

so they're saying the Mexicans are crossing the border to burglarize their homes? Yeah, right!

Yes, they do all the time.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by czarina

so they're saying the Mexicans are crossing the border to burglarize their homes? Yeah, right!

if u wasnt cute id cuss you out the homes their invading are places that money are kept drugs, cyote, or just illegals that cant use the bank.or word is out they keep large amounts of cash.

[mountainmiester]

Every time i hear the words "comprehensive reform" from this administration I break out in a cold sweat.