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Old 04-25-2010, 01:35 PM   #101
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Sheeps went to war on " no proof " ...
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On 9-11 all the laws of physics were put on hold.
According to most of the posters in this thread, that appears to be the common logic.
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Why would you destroy something and then legally have to rebuild it for more money than you got from insurers?
Asbestos.

The WTC had been operating under a waiver to delay the
removal of asbestos which was all throughout the buildings.
Estimated cost of removal was in the billions.
Silversteen took over the WTC for $370 million.
A "fraction" of it's "supposed value".

The building was old and using too much power.
Tenants in the WTC were getting smaller and smaller because better buildings
were available.

Not saying he destroyed it; just stating a motive for such a thing.
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According to most of the posters in this thread, that appears to be the common logic.
no Suzzy, common logic cannot agree with "official" story, that's all.
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how do we know it was actually Osama bin Laden? - intel service told us so.
same credible intel service that had confirmed intel that Iraq had WMD, so we went there.
how can any one trust them after that?

lets assume it was Osama who did it, how come we have quietly forgotten about him and let him live without justice?

did anybody actually seen remains of a plane that hit Pentagon? I guess same law of physics that brought 3 building down same way, completely destroyed plane upon hitting Pentagon and Pentagon suffering minimal damage.

how come people that were driving van with explosives on the same date were released quietly after 60 days?

you don't find any of this a bit suspicious? or these questions don't have any validity?

yeah we should just blindly believe anything official and not question anything.

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how do we know it was actually Osama bin Laden? - intel service told us so.
same credible intel service that had confirmed intel that Iraq had WMD, so we went there.
how can any one trust them after that?

lets assume it was Osama who did it, how come we have quietly forgotten about him and let him live without justice?

did anybody actually seen remains of a plane that hit Pentagon? I guess same law of physics that brought 3 building down same way, completely destroyed plane upon hitting Pentagon and Pentagon suffering minimal damage.

how come people that were driving van with explosives on the same date were released quietly after 60 days?

you don't find any of this a bit suspicious? or these questions don't have any validity?

yeah we should just blindly believe anything official and not question anything.
Osama is on video tape stating that he did it. The planner and executioner of the plan is in our custody and he not only has admitted it but openly boasts about it. Osama has not been forgotten about and has a 20 million dollar reward on his head...dead or alive...and has been targeted with drones multiple times...and while the drones have killed Al Qaeda leaders and subordinates...it has turned out that Osama was not present at the times of the strikes. President Obama has ordered the military and CIA to increase their efforts to get him...dead or alive.

There was parts of the plane that hit the Pentagon...that were found...outside and inside the building...but yes the plane pretty much disintegrated.
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Yeah stay away from any city with these drills going on.. These drills are there to confuse people working, that aren't in on it. 9/11 had many drills going on that day, with false blips put on the radar screens, they couldn't tell real hijacks from fake ones.

And of course the drills on 7/7 were even more obvious when this guy came on tv amazed.
this is insane btw.. you think they had intel on it and ran a drill to gear up for the whole thing?
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Osama is on video tape stating that he did it. The planner and executioner of the plan is in our custody and he not only has admitted it but openly boasts about it. Osama has not been forgotten about and has a 20 million dollar reward on his head...dead or alive...and has been targeted with drones multiple times...and while the drones have killed Al Qaeda leaders and subordinates...it has turned out that Osama was not present at the times of the strikes. President Obama has ordered the military and CIA to increase their efforts to get him...dead or alive.

There was parts of the plane that hit the Pentagon...that were found...outside and inside the building...but yes the plane pretty much disintegrated.
yeah man we cant find Osama for how long? nothing wrong with that.. let him take good vacation before we bring him to justice - i guess its pretty logical for you
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Let me start this by saying that I have not read any of the posts in here, and I won't even bother. But if you honestly believe 9-11 was an inside job then please kill yourself, because you are taking oxygen from people that are much smarter than you. Thank you for proactively committing suicide...
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Get over yourself failed reseller hosting provider. War was going to happen no matter what anyone had to say, and it didn't matter if you were a sheep or if you were outspoken against it...
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Let me start this by saying that I have not read any of the posts in here, and I won't even bother. But if you honestly believe 9-11 was an inside job then please kill yourself, because you are taking oxygen from people that are much smarter than you. Thank you for proactively committing suicide...
are you talking about same smart people that led us to war with Iraq on what premise? i guess they forgot to tell us their real agenda.
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are you talking about same smart people that led us to war with Iraq on what base? i guess they forgot to tell us their real agenda.
Again get over yourself. Nobody gave a shit about Iraq, including most conservatives. That was totally a GWB pet project, and it didn't matter what side of the fence you were on because he was going in. 9-11 just gave him his excuse on a silver platter. No one disputes that invading Iraq was bullshit, but if you believe that he constructed 9-11 to make it happen then you don't deserve to live. He took advantage of a bad situation, which is how all politicians work...
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Again get over yourself. Nobody gave a shit about Iraq, including most conservatives. That was totally a GWB pet project, and it didn't matter what side of the fence you were on because he was going in. 9-11 just gave him his excuse on a silver platter. No one disputes that invading Iraq was bullshit, but if you believe that he constructed 9-11 to make it happen then you don't deserve to live. He took advantage of a bad situation, which is how all politicians work...
I don't believe he constructed 9-11, and I doubt it was OBL even if it was OBL, the whole thing right after the event seems more like cover up than true official investigation. each day more and more people doubt it.
you say 9-11 gave GWB excuse to go into Iraq, it was said that intel had confirmed WMDs there, why then not single official is being prosecuted for this bullshit? not GWB not intel service? isn't strange at least? so our officials can straight up lie to us and we still gonna take BS that they feed us? you see nothing wrong with this picture?
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you admit that all of them (polititians) basically scum and are sleazy bustards but yet their official story is somehow complete and true.
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this is insane btw.. you think they had intel on it and ran a drill to gear up for the whole thing?
I really don't know, I just found it interesting.
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Again get over yourself. Nobody gave a shit about Iraq, including most conservatives. That was totally a GWB pet project, and it didn't matter what side of the fence you were on because he was going in. 9-11 just gave him his excuse on a silver platter. No one disputes that invading Iraq was bullshit, but if you believe that he constructed 9-11 to make it happen then you don't deserve to live. He took advantage of a bad situation, which is how all politicians work...
Well if you really want to know the truth, maybe you should actually read some of the things presented in this thread. At least a presentation from a firefighter who was there.

The fact that you choose to call names before even reading the thread shows willful ignorance. Basically you wouldn't know what to do if what we say in this thread is true (which is is). So you choose to keep yourself blind and play it safe. I know cause I was like you once.

Try actually debating what is presented instead of just calling names. It will make you seem much smarter.
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he's paying 10 mill rent a month, on a vacant piece of land in the former trade centre complex, OUCH
If he had good insurance, I'm sure that's less then what the insurance is paying him.

Most policies have a "fair rental value" clause in case of things like this so I would imagine he is being compensated for not being able to rent/lease the building.
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Well if you really want to know the truth, maybe you should actually read some of the things presented in this thread. At least a presentation from a firefighter who was there.

The fact that you choose to call names before even reading the thread shows willful ignorance. Basically you wouldn't know what to do if what we say in this thread is true (which is is). So you choose to keep yourself blind and play it safe. I know cause I was like you once.

Try actually debating what is presented instead of just calling names. It will make you seem much smarter.
Most of what has been posted in this thread is regurgitated old BS that has been discussed ad nauseam.
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Most of what has been posted in this thread is regurgitated old BS that has been discussed ad nauseam.
Theking it really doesn't matter what proofs you see. You have been brainwashed by the US military, to trust what the government says no matter what.

You say you trust the military, but you don't trust former navy seals like Jesse Ventura, or The Director of studies at the Army war college Alan Sabrosky saying it was a total inside job (these are just 2 i'm naming there are countless others). You don't trust the firefighters that were there, you don't trust the thousands of engineers.

Who do you trust, you trust the 9/11 commission who's head was a dual citizen of israel. The director of homeland security at the time who was a dual citizen of israel and the mainstream media which is 100% pro israel.

If you were a true american, I think you would question these strange things and see who's agenda you are truly following.
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such as?

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Theking it really doesn't matter what proofs you see. You have been brainwashed by the US military, to trust what the government says no matter what.

You say you trust the military, but you don't trust former navy seals like Jesse Ventura, or The Director of studies at the Army war college Alan Sabrosky saying it was a total inside job (these are just 2 i'm naming there are countless others). You don't trust the firefighters that were there, you don't trust the thousands of engineers.

Who do you trust, you trust the 9/11 commission who's head was a dual citizen of israel. The director of homeland security at the time who was a dual citizen of israel and the mainstream media which is 100% pro israel.

If you were a true american, I think you would question these strange things and see who's agenda you are truly following.
Essentially... This. I thought americans were supposed to be paranoid to the extreme about their government and its devious plans (hence the right to bare arms). Theking seems content to believe everything the "untrustable" government says.
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there are victims who were aboard that, that swore they kept flying over and over bombing.

USS Liberty should never be forgotten.

Families deserved more than being swept under the rug for that one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

Incidents prove to me that no country cares about its soldiers, they are meat. US swept dead americans under the rug to appease foreign affair mobs.
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Theking it really doesn't matter what proofs you see. You have been brainwashed by the US military, to trust what the government says no matter what.

You say you trust the military, but you don't trust former navy seals like Jesse Ventura, or The Director of studies at the Army war college Alan Sabrosky saying it was a total inside job (these are just 2 i'm naming there are countless others). You don't trust the firefighters that were there, you don't trust the thousands of engineers.

Who do you trust, you trust the 9/11 commission who's head was a dual citizen of israel. The director of homeland security at the time who was a dual citizen of israel and the mainstream media which is 100% pro israel.

If you were a true american, I think you would question these strange things and see who's agenda you are truly following.
Thousands of opinions...proof does not make. Proof is prosecutable...opinions are not.
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there are victims who were aboard that, that swore they kept flying over and over bombing.

USS Liberty should never be forgotten.

Families deserved more than being swept under the rug for that one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

Incidents prove to me that no country cares about its soldiers, they are meat. US swept dead americans under the rug to appease foreign affair mobs.
The israeli's even shot at the life boats as they were escaping.
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thats why its called conspiracy
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Thousands of opinions...proof does not make. Proof is prosecutable...opinions are not.
Yes according to you even if Silverstein had his buildings wired for demolition beforehand, it still wouldn't change the fact that we were attacked by a foreign enemy. Even the Demon would probably disagree with that statement.
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The israeli's even shot at the life boats as they were escaping.
quite a few soldiers in my family, some from vietnam some much younger. multiple family members in middle east at this very time. That said, the old guys from Vietnam always talking to me about this old stuff, and yes, old soldiers have NOT FORGOTTEN and those who dig can see how brutal an attack it was, meanwhile, our flag was flying in the air.

Israelis 100% KNEW they were firing on US naval vessel. Our vessel fly our flag. As I said, give some families some money, and theyll shut up. Sweep it under the rug, nations remain friends, meanwhile soldiers are blown apart for no reason other than Israeli aggression.

"Israeli ships' actions after the torpedo hit: Officers and men of Liberty claim that after the torpedo attack and the abandon ship order, motor torpedo boats strafed the ship's topside with automatic gunfire preventing men from escaping from below, and either machine-gunned or confiscated the empty life rafts that had been set afloat.[70][71] The IDF claims that Liberty was not fired upon after the torpedo attack and that a rescue raft was fished from the water while searching for survivors.[72]"
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Yes according to you even if Silverstein had his buildings wired for demolition beforehand, it still wouldn't change the fact that we were attacked by a foreign enemy. Even the Demon would probably disagree with that statement.
As I stated I am satisfied that if he had the building wired for demolition before hand that would be a prosecutable act and voided his insurance. Apparently the insuarance paid him off and he certainly has not been prosecuted...thus it is apparent that there is not any proof...only peoples opinions and BS. There are thousands of DA's in this country that would love to have proof of this. If he in fact had his building wired for demoliton it does not and would not negate the fact that the U.S. was attacked by a foreign entity and of that there is indisputable proof.
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As I stated I am satisfied that if he had the building wired for demolition before hand that would be a prosecutable act and voided his insurance. Apparently the insuarance paid him off and he certainly has not been prosecuted...thus it is apparent that there is not any proof...only peoples opinions and BS. There are thousands of DA's in this country that would love to have proof of this. If he in fact had his building wired for demoliton it does not and would not negate the fact that the U.S. was attacked by a foreign entity and of that there is indisputable proof.
What about the BBC report that hijackers are sill alive? Just wondering your thoughts on some mainstream reports. Also why hasn't "Bin Laden" been charged by the FBI for 9/11?
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What about the BBC report that hijackers are sill alive? Just wondering your thoughts on some mainstream reports. Also why hasn't "Bin Laden" been charged by the FBI for 9/11?
People having the same name count for little if anything. Prosecutors charge not the FBI. The FBI arrests.
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