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D Ghost 04-23-2010 01:23 PM

Bombshell: Silverstein Wanted To Demolish Building 7 On 9/11
 
Note: this does not reflect my personal views, but is an interesting article.

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A Fox News hit piece against Jesse Ventura and the 9/11 truth movement written by former Washington D.C. prosecutor Jeffrey Scott Shapiro inadvertently reveals a shocking truth, that World Trade Center leaseholder Larry Silverstein, who collected nearly $500 million dollars in insurance as a result of the collapse of Building 7, a 47-story structure that was not hit by a plane but collapsed within seven seconds on September 11, was on the phone to his insurance carrier attempting to convince them that the building should be brought down via controlled demolition.

Writing for Fox News, Jeffrey Scott Shapiro states, ?I was working as a journalist for Gannett News at Ground Zero that day, and I remember very clearly what I saw and heard.?

?Shortly before the building collapsed, several NYPD officers and Con-Edison workers told me that Larry Silverstein, the property developer of One World Financial Center was on the phone with his insurance carrier to see if they would authorize the controlled demolition of the building ? since its foundation was already unstable and expected to fall.?

FULL ARTICLE: http://www.infowars.com/bombshell-si...ding-7-on-911/

A bit about Silverstein...

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In 1980, Silverstein won a bid from the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey to construct 7 World Trade Center, to the north of the World Trade Center. Silverstein was interested in acquiring the entire World Trade Center complex, and put in a bid when the Port Authority put it up for lease in 2000. Silverstein won the bid when a deal between the initial winner and the Port Authority fell through, and he signed the lease on July 24, 2001, only weeks before the towers were destroyed in the September 11 attacks.
Wikipedia: Larry Silverstein

mayabong 04-23-2010 01:29 PM

Posted this yesterday, went right over people's heads. Instead of debunking jessie ventura this article just proved what he's been saying all along.

People are truly brainwashed and it doesn't matter what you show them, they'll stick to the bogus offical story no matter what. You could have Bush come out and say it was an inside job and people would say "wow bush is a loon, give me some of what he's smokin". Basically cause they wouldn't know what to do if the "conspiracy theory" was actually true so they live in la la land.

JFK 04-23-2010 01:34 PM

he's paying 10 mill rent a month, on a vacant piece of land in the former trade centre complex, OUCH :2 cents:

hypedough 04-23-2010 01:36 PM

Why would you destroy something and then legally have to rebuild it for more money than you got from insurers?

SmokeyTheBear 04-23-2010 01:38 PM

hearsay is hardly proof of anything, he heard third hand rumours. Why would all these guys know who he was on the phone with anyways.

But lets just suppose it is true, it merely proves larry was more worried about money than saving people, that kind of goes without saying.

IllTestYourGirls 04-23-2010 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 17067389)
hearsay is hardly proof of anything, he heard third hand rumours. Why would all these guys know who he was on the phone with anyways.

But lets just suppose it is true, it merely proves larry was more worried about money than saving people, that kind of goes without saying.

From what I read it was a reporter that was there. They tend to be credible. Maybe I'm missing something.

mayabong 04-23-2010 01:49 PM

fire yeah right


MediaGuy 04-23-2010 01:55 PM

Sources? re. Silverstein's phone call to the insurance company.

Because, although many witnesses and recordings recall that it was known the building was going to fall, it has been flatly denied since the Silverstein "pull it" comment was pointed out...

:D

mayabong 04-23-2010 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MediaGuy (Post 17067446)
Sources? re. Silverstein's phone call to the insurance company.

Because, although many witnesses and recordings recall that it was known the building was going to fall, it has been flatly denied since the Silverstein "pull it" comment was pointed out...

:D

what r firefighters saying?


BFT3K 04-23-2010 02:21 PM

This story will never go away.

The government account is not true, and the truthers accounts, although more believable, will never be fully accepted either.

Reminds me of this type of story...

An alien ship lands in Smalltown USA. Everyone in the town saw it, and many tell of the alien creatures and ship that they saw removed by the government.

Rather than dispute this straight on, the government blurs the story by adding absurd information to the mix.

Pretty soon a known drunk is talking about how the little green guys did a dance for the townies, complete with music and lights. Another "witness" reports having been anally probed by the aliens, and so on.

In the end the story becomes so far fetched that is is no longer credible.

Even if it was originally true....

pornguy 04-23-2010 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by hypedough (Post 17067383)
Why would you destroy something and then legally have to rebuild it for more money than you got from insurers?

Dont forget the tax rright offs.

Brujah 04-23-2010 02:51 PM

Can we blame Obama somehow?

D Ghost 04-23-2010 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 17067581)
Can we blame Obama somehow?

:1orglaugh

Gouge 04-23-2010 04:18 PM

I'm confused, Paul Watson and Alex Jones have been on Coast to Coast several times talking and debating the very subject matter of Building 7. So why now would they need some Fox News contributor who gets paid $50 a piece to support the original claims that they themselves have been saying for years?

Alex Jones hates Fox News and bash's them every chance he gets but now hes going to use an article they posted of supporting proof of what he has been saying all along. Nothing in the Fox News article is new or even compeling, its all rehashed shit thats already been said by hundreds of people so whats the big deal all of a sudden?

Anyone else think this just doesn't feel or sound right?

mayabong 04-23-2010 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gouge (Post 17067898)
I'm confused, Paul Watson and Alex Jones have been on Coast to Coast several times talking and debating the very subject matter of Building 7. So why now would they need some Fox News contributor who gets paid $50 a piece to support the original claims that they themselves have been saying for years?

Alex Jones hates Fox News and bash's them every chance he gets but now hes going to use an article they posted of supporting proof of what he has been saying all along. Nothing in the Fox News article is new or even compeling, its all rehashed shit thats already been said by hundreds of people so whats the big deal all of a sudden?

Anyone else think this just doesn't feel or sound right?

Because usually people wont believe something unless its said on a mainstream source. The fact that Silverstein had the option to demolish his building that day has never ever been brought up in mainstream media. Before this, it was only by "conspiracy kooks" that had this assumption. What do you mean its the same ole shit being rehashed?

Alex is cool but he will never talk about the 95% israeli involvement in 9/11 which makes me wonder about him.

Owner of Trade Center - Jewish
Writer of our patriot act - Michael Chertoff (dual citizen)
Head of 9/11 commission - Dual Citizen
Company in charge of airport security- israeli
Mossad agents arrested with explosives on 9/11 detained and released after 71 days.

Lots more israel "coincidences" Here
http://theinfounderground.com/forum/...php?f=6&t=5367

Glad that we have dual citizens writing our laws and investigating attacks on our soil.
Strange indeed. Anyone who thinks these facts are racist is obviously not a true american.

IllTestYourGirls 04-23-2010 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17067502)
This story will never go away.

The government account is not true, and the truthers accounts, although more believable, will never be fully accepted either.

Reminds me of this type of story...

An alien ship lands in Smalltown USA. Everyone in the town saw it, and many tell of the alien creatures and ship that they saw removed by the government.

Rather than dispute this straight on, the government blurs the story by adding absurd information to the mix.

Pretty soon a known drunk is talking about how the little green guys did a dance for the townies, complete with music and lights. Another "witness" reports having been anally probed by the aliens, and so on.

In the end the story becomes so far fetched that is is no longer credible.

Even if it was originally true....


Sort of like the government calling the tea parties racist radicals.....

Martin 04-23-2010 04:46 PM

Building 7 is the smoking gun.

dav3 04-23-2010 04:48 PM

So if Tower 7 was already rigged with controlled explosives, one would assume that the other two towers were rigged the same way.

theking 04-23-2010 04:52 PM

Until Larry Silverstein himself states that the building was rigged for demolition and he ordered it to be demolished there is no smoking bomb and even if he makes said statement there still will not be a smoking bomb...as it had been determined that the building was probably on the verge of falling.

mayabong 04-23-2010 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 17068062)
Until Larry Silverstein himself states that the building was rigged for demolition and he ordered it to be demolished there is no smoking bomb and even if he makes said statement there still will not be a smoking bomb...as it had been determined that the building was probably on the verge of falling.

Right! even if he states it himself that he had explosives already placed in the building, that will make no difference. Are you serious? Some people are born to be cattle.

Adam X 04-23-2010 04:58 PM

the two main towers were completely rigged... see explosions here..


dav3 04-23-2010 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 17068062)
Until Larry Silverstein himself states that the building was rigged for demolition and he ordered it to be demolished there is no smoking bomb and even if he makes said statement there still will not be a smoking bomb...as it had been determined that the building was probably on the verge of falling.

Yea, there's been video of him saying 'Pull it' on the net for years.




american pervert 04-23-2010 05:02 PM

j$tyles WN4L

theking 04-23-2010 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17068073)
Right! even if he states it himself that he had explosives already placed in the building, that will make no difference. Are you serious? Some people are born to be cattle.

Educate me...what difference would it make as to the events of 9/11...if he indeed had the building rigged for demolition...which I will never believe until he himself states it to be true.

L-Pink 04-23-2010 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin (Post 17068046)
Building 7 is the smoking gun.

I have been saying this for years.


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dav3 04-23-2010 05:05 PM

Did anyone die from the tower 7 fall?

bushwacker 04-23-2010 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 17068030)
Sort of like the government calling the tea parties racist radicals.....

It's true because we all know the brothas don't have tea partys.

mayabong 04-23-2010 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 17068086)
Educate me...what difference would it make as to the events of 9/11...if he indeed had the building rigged for demolition...which I will never believe until he himself states it to be true.

Call me nuts, but I think it would indicate a bit of foreknowledge of this whole event taking place. Unless building owners rigging their buildings with explosives is the "in" thing these days.

bushwacker 04-23-2010 05:11 PM

ok you're nuts.

theking 04-23-2010 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dav3 (Post 17068080)
Yea, there's been video of him saying 'Pull it' on the net for years.




I am aware and have been aware of the video...but in what context was "pull it" used. Did he mean pull the firefighters and police out of the building to not and try to save the building as it appeared the building was on the verge of collapse. Others that have claimed to have spoken with him about this matter say that is what he was referring to.

If he in fact had the building had been rigged for demolition I am satisfied that his insurance coverage would be voided...and there would probably be a criminal investigation since I seriously doubt that it is legal to pre rig a building for demolition while that building is exposed to the public for use and has people employed there.

theking 04-23-2010 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bushwacker (Post 17068108)
ok you're nuts.

Beat me to it.

mayabong 04-23-2010 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 17068114)
Beat me to it.

I can't believe I even had to explain that to you. You actually imply that there is nothing weird about larry having his buildings wired on 9/11.

theking 04-23-2010 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17068125)
I can't believe I even had to explain that to you. You actually imply that there is nothing weird about larry having his buildings wired on 9/11.

No I did not imply any such thing...re read my posts. We were attacked by a foreign entity and whether or not he had a building rigged for demo would not alter that fact.

dav3 04-23-2010 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 17068110)
I am aware and have been aware of the video...but in what context was "pull it" used. Did he mean pull the firefighters and police out of the building to not and try to save the building as it appeared the building was on the verge of collapse. Others that have claimed to have spoken with him about this matter say that is what he was referring to.

Then he would have said something like 'pull them'.

mayabong 04-23-2010 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 17068086)
Educate me...what difference would it make as to the events of 9/11...if he indeed had the building rigged for demolition.

It makes a huge difference cause it shifts the blame of who was truly behind the attack.. Unless Bin Laden rigged his building. Actually, people would probably believe that one too if wolf blitzer or sean hannity said it was so.

L-Pink 04-23-2010 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 17068131)
No I did not imply any such thing...re read my posts. We were attacked by a foreign entity and whether or not he had a building rigged for demo would not alter that fact.

I can't believe you shot your dog! You fucking ass wipe!


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mayabong 04-23-2010 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 17068131)
No I did not imply any such thing...re read my posts. We were attacked by a foreign entity and whether or not he had a building rigged for demo would not alter that fact.

oh my god

The Demon 04-23-2010 05:40 PM

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse....i?u=911_morons

mayabong 04-23-2010 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17068175)

""Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel - Samuel Johnson

From Wikipedia

Operation Northwoods, or Northwoods, was a false-flag plan that originated within the United States government in 1962. The plan called for Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) or other operatives to commit genuine acts of terrorism in U.S. cities and elsewhere. These acts of terrorism were to be blamed on Cuba in order to create public support for a war against that nation, which had recently become communist under Fidel Castro. One part of the Operation Northwoods plan was to "develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington."

The desired resultant from the execution of this plan would be to place the United States in the apparent position of suffering defensible grievances from a rash and irresponsible government of Cuba and to develop an international image of a Cuban threat to peace in the Western Hemisphere."

Several other proposals were included within the Operation Northwoods plan, including real or simulated actions against various U.S. military and civilian targets. The plan was drafted by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, signed by Chairman Lyman Lemnitzer and sent to the Secretary of Defense. Although part of the U.S. government's Cuban Project anti-communist initiative, Operation Northwoods was never officially accepted[citation needed] and the proposals included in the plan were never executed.

Serge Litehead 04-23-2010 05:47 PM

Building7 tenants:

Tenant Square Feet
Salomon Smith Barney 1,202,900
IRS Regional Council 90,430
U.S. Secret Service 85,343
C.I.A. N/A N/A Government
American Express Bank International 106,117
Standard Chartered Bank 111,398
Provident Financial Management 9,000
ITT Hartford Insurance Group 122,590
First State Management Group, Inc 4,000
Federal Home Loan Bank 47,490
NAIC Securities 22,500
Securities & Exchange Commission 106,117
Mayor's Office of Emergency Mgmt 45,815

source http://www.wtc7.net/background.html

theking 04-23-2010 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17068187)
""Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel - Samuel Johnson

From Wikipedia

Operation Northwoods, or Northwoods, was a false-flag plan that originated within the United States government in 1962. The plan called for Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) or other operatives to commit genuine acts of terrorism in U.S. cities and elsewhere. These acts of terrorism were to be blamed on Cuba in order to create public support for a war against that nation, which had recently become communist under Fidel Castro. One part of the Operation Northwoods plan was to "develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington."

The desired resultant from the execution of this plan would be to place the United States in the apparent position of suffering defensible grievances from a rash and irresponsible government of Cuba and to develop an international image of a Cuban threat to peace in the Western Hemisphere."

Several other proposals were included within the Operation Northwoods plan, including real or simulated actions against various U.S. military and civilian targets. The plan was drafted by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, signed by Chairman Lyman Lemnitzer and sent to the Secretary of Defense. Although part of the U.S. government's Cuban Project anti-communist initiative, Operation Northwoods was never officially accepted[citation needed] and the proposals included in the plan were never executed.

Never executed...are the keywords. Ever heard of brainstorming and the methodology used to brainstorm. The US has think tanks...civilian and military...that propose all types of plans and contingency plans...verging from the ludicrous onward. Get over it.

mayabong 04-23-2010 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 17068202)
Never executed...are the keywords. Ever heard of brainstorming and the methodology used to brainstorm. The US has think tanks...civilian and military...that propose all types of plans and contingency plans...verging from the ludicrous onward. Get over it.

Yeah if it was executed, you'd be the first one calling for castro's head and calling people like me retarded for questioning the events.

dav3 04-23-2010 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17068175)

The guy in this video would know better than you or the writer of that site:
Quote:

Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17067452)


L-Pink 04-23-2010 05:59 PM

Hey king, executed ..... like your loyal dog? You fuck!


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theking 04-23-2010 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 17068221)
Hey king, executed ..... like your loyal dog? You fuck!


.

Well...it is clear that you are begging for my attention. It was my dog...it is my way...it is my life. I do things as I choose to and do not need...want...or ask for your approval...thank you very much. You are now dismissed.

D Ghost 04-23-2010 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 17068110)
I am aware and have been aware of the video...but in what context was "pull it" used. Did he mean pull the firefighters and police out of the building to not and try to save the building as it appeared the building was on the verge of collapse. Others that have claimed to have spoken with him about this matter say that is what he was referring to.

If he in fact had the building had been rigged for demolition I am satisfied that his insurance coverage would be voided...and there would probably be a criminal investigation since I seriously doubt that it is legal to pre rig a building for demolition while that building is exposed to the public for use and has people employed there.

Why would he say "pull it" to mean "get the firefighters out" - that makes no sense in that context.

L-Pink 04-23-2010 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 17068231)
Well...it is clear that you are begging for my attention. It was my dog...it is my way...it is my life. I do things as I choose to and do not need...want...or ask for your approval...thank you very much. You are now dismissed.

Not begging for attention, just reminding you you are a total douche.


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Serge Litehead 04-23-2010 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17067452)
what r firefighters saying?


this guy talks more sense than official story ever did..

CaptainHowdy 04-23-2010 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 17067581)
Can we blame Obama somehow?

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh ...

PornoStar69 04-23-2010 06:12 PM

USS Liberty was a false flag operation fully approved by the LBJ administration

google/youtube that.


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