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brassmonkey 04-27-2010 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by escorpio (Post 17078690)
Yes, I am here legally. Born in Seattle.

Yes, I have papers.
http://www.mr-bills.com/images/Ziog%...w%20buring.jpg

I speak English better than you, chango.

dumb ass

brassmonkey 04-27-2010 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by escorpio (Post 17078755)
Not saying paying entitles them to stay here, just pointing out the "they don't pay into the system" accusation is not well founded.
I am an advocate of more sales taxes and less income taxes. Sales taxes are hard to get around.

the earnings are illegal and they collect the refunds

escorpio 04-27-2010 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 17078782)
the earnings are illegal and they collect the refunds

God damn, you're stupid.

Rochard 04-27-2010 08:45 AM

I am forty-one years old, very white, born and raised in the United States. Six months ago we set off the home alarm by accident and the local police rolled right up to my doorstep - great, wonderful, please protect my home. They ask for my ID and pulled out my California driver's license. My heart skipped a beat when they asked if I had a second form of ID.

I don't care what race you are, I don't care what color you are, and I don't care if you fuck puppies after the sun goes down - When a police officer asks you for a second form of ID, the only correct response is "Yes officer".

Fletch XXX 04-27-2010 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17078987)

I don't care what race you are, I don't care what color you are, and I don't care if you fuck puppies after the sun goes down - When a police officer asks you for a second form of ID, the only correct response is "Yes officer".

white folk think this, minorities think its racist to ask for ID. :thumbsup

AaronM 04-27-2010 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17078987)
My heart skipped a beat when they asked if I had a second form of ID.

Why's that?

Rochard 04-27-2010 08:54 AM

(Sorry, hit "post reply" before I was done.)

I've been fighting a two year battle with my neighbor. He's a renter. He came to my house when he first moved in, introduced himself, and asked me to sign off on him building a "sidewalk". There was no mistake in the language; He's Hispanic but spoke fluent English. The next day I woke up and discovered he had removed all of the trees and bushes between our houses, and extended his driveway all the way to my property line. This is because he runs a landscape business from the house (that he rents), and he turned the driveway into parking lot for his small fleet of trucks.

Two weeks ago was the straw that broke the camel's back. I filed a complaint with the police department claiming that there was an "unusual amount of people living in the house" and that one of them had told me most of them were in the US illegally. The cops moved in and arrested everyone except for the renter, who was the only legal resident in the house. Gone are the six or seven Mexicans that spent their nights standing outside of the house talking on cell phones, and gone is the fleet of work trucks. I have my neighborhood back.

Don't call me a racist. The guy across the street is also Mexican. Husband is an electrician, wife cleans houses, two nice kids. He told me about becoming a US citizen; I've eaten at his house and even celebrated the 4th of July with him. He's proud to be an American and I'm happy to be friends with him.

But if your breaking the law, here illegally, taking from "the system" without putting anything into it, well, your a criminal.

Rochard 04-27-2010 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 17078992)
white folk think this, minorities think its racist to ask for ID. :thumbsup

That's my point. I'm white. I was in my fucking house. I was asked for ID, which I didn't think was unreasonable. He was here to look into my alarm going off and confirming my ID wasn't out of line. When he asked for a second form of ID I was surprised but it wasn't an issue being as I knew exactly where my passport was.

When I go to another country, I take my DL and my passport. And being as I'm not a citizen of, say France, I'd always carry my passport with me. Same thing when I go to Mexico. This isn't discrimination, it's a fact of life when your in another country.

Tanker 04-27-2010 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17079019)
That's my point. I'm white. I was in my fucking house. I was asked for ID, which I didn't think was unreasonable. He was here to look into my alarm going off and confirming my ID wasn't out of line. When he asked for a second form of ID I was surprised but it wasn't an issue being as I knew exactly where my passport was.

When I go to another country, I take my DL and my passport. And being as I'm not a citizen of, say France, I'd always carry my passport with me. Same thing when I go to Mexico. This isn't discrimination, it's a fact of life when your in another country.

couldn't agree more! Any other country in the world locks down their border and you show ID when asked

brassmonkey 04-27-2010 09:16 AM

the reason it bothers the illegals is that there will not be that just get there then your safe

Fletch XXX 04-27-2010 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17079019)
That's my point. I'm white. I was in my fucking house. I was asked for ID, which I didn't think was unreasonable. He was here to look into my alarm going off and confirming my ID wasn't out of line. When he asked for a second form of ID I was surprised but it wasn't an issue being as I knew exactly where my passport was.
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Yeah after seeing the ID addy matches the location of the alarm call, youd think it would be enough :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

brassmonkey 04-27-2010 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 17079081)
Yeah after seeing the ID addy matches the location of the alarm call, youd think it would be enough :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

well they have protocols set in place have you ever heard of fake id :helpme man if they just went with 1 id the criminals would be dancing in the streets :1orglaugh

stephane76 04-27-2010 01:34 PM

http://www.boingboing.net/2010/04/27/goog.jpg

JaneB 04-27-2010 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by escorpio (Post 17078703)
You have a problem with people paying billions of dollars they will never get back into Social Security?



I have a problem when they use my SS number, which someone has been using that lives in Cali. It is a cluster fuck.

brassmonkey 04-27-2010 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by stephane76 (Post 17079996)

thats just dumb is that how u feel or aebn :helpme

brassmonkey 04-28-2010 05:58 AM

shakira sucks ass isnt she cuban

czarina 04-28-2010 06:03 AM

this is the beginning of a policed state. Many others will follow. A very sad day for America.

brassmonkey 04-28-2010 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by czarina (Post 17081914)
this is the beginning of a policed state. Many others will follow. A very sad day for America.

its like this hispanics are making it racial well most illegals in Az are hispanic you should be here there were like 300+ at the consulate trying to figure out what their options are. in florida its not south americans its whats closer to the location. policed state you mean making it so illegals cant abuse the system if i go to mexico im required to carry papers and its a policed state now what u have to say. :)

Vendzilla 04-28-2010 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by czarina (Post 17081914)
this is the beginning of a policed state. Many others will follow. A very sad day for America.

Not a SAD day, it's a day when Americans have been pushed to and now they are standing up to the Political Correctness bullshit of all this.
After hearing what the law says, I don't feel it will effect me, my friends or my neighbors in a negative way

Tanker 04-28-2010 08:16 AM

Mexico issues a travel warning for AZ and says that the new immigrant law is discriminatory!! Has anyone ever read Article 32 of the Mexican Constitution? It's pretty discriminatory.


Article 32: "Mexicans shall have priority over foreigners under equality of circumstances for all classes of concessions and for all employment, positions, or commissions of the Government in which the status of citizenship is not indispensable." Foreigners, immigrants, and even naturalized citizens of Mexico may not serve as military officers, Mexican-flagged ship and airline crew, or chiefs of seaports and airports

brassmonkey 04-28-2010 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Tanker (Post 17082364)
Mexico issues a travel warning for AZ and says that the new immigrant law is discriminatory!! Has anyone ever read Article 32 of the Mexican Constitution? It's pretty discriminatory.


Article 32: "Mexicans shall have priority over foreigners under equality of circumstances for all classes of concessions and for all employment, positions, or commissions of the Government in which the status of citizenship is not indispensable." Foreigners, immigrants, and even naturalized citizens of Mexico may not serve as military officers, Mexican-flagged ship and airline crew, or chiefs of seaports and airports

yeah well the country is a mess that why they want to work here

brassmonkey 04-28-2010 11:08 AM

illegal bump

Vendzilla 04-28-2010 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Tanker (Post 17082364)
Mexico issues a travel warning for AZ and says that the new immigrant law is discriminatory!! Has anyone ever read Article 32 of the Mexican Constitution? It's pretty discriminatory.


Article 32: "Mexicans shall have priority over foreigners under equality of circumstances for all classes of concessions and for all employment, positions, or commissions of the Government in which the status of citizenship is not indispensable." Foreigners, immigrants, and even naturalized citizens of Mexico may not serve as military officers, Mexican-flagged ship and airline crew, or chiefs of seaports and airports

Very good point

Penthouse Tony 04-28-2010 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Tanker (Post 17082364)
Mexico issues a travel warning for AZ and says that the new immigrant law is discriminatory!! Has anyone ever read Article 32 of the Mexican Constitution? It's pretty discriminatory.

As a tax payer in California this is what I feared. My state seems to have an open arms approach to illegals and if the surrounding states are less hospitable then there will be an increase in illegal immigration to my state.

brassmonkey 04-28-2010 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sagi_AFF (Post 17083679)
As a tax payer in California this is what I feared. My state seems to have an open arms approach to illegals and if the surrounding states are less hospitable then there will be an increase in illegal immigration to my state.

we're flushing the leeches

Smokieflame 04-28-2010 02:11 PM

I live in Phoenix, I once lived next door to illegals who did nothing but start problems. I called the cops on them several times to be told we can not enforce or ask for there legal status. Now if that situation were to happen the cops would in fact have to ask for there IDs just the same way they asked for our IDs when we called them. That is something people don't realize, cops in fear of losing there jobs here would never ask Mexicans who weren't breaking a serious law for there IDs b/c of racial profiling. Now they can and have to ask them for there ID. If me as an American am walking down the street and I look suspect or similar to someone who is being looked for and I get asked by a cop I have to provide a state issued ID. If I do not I can be taken to jail and charged with a misdemeanor, I have had friends who have had this happen.

Unlike Cali's borders AZ border with Mexico is HUGE, and there are alot of human traffic coming thru our borders here, then they spread out thru America. This has caused severe violence in every city and town across AZ not just border towns. The Rancher being killed was the straw that broke the camels back, that is attacking AZ heart when you go after our ranchers. There have also been dozens of situations that have unfolded on Tucson and Phoenix freeways, 2 of which ended in a moving gun battle on I-10 in the Ahwatukee area of southern phoenix. 4 people were killed that were doing nothing but driving home.

I personally don't think this law is tough enough. We as a nation have immigration laws, all legal immigrants have to speak a certain amount of English. So yes if a person can not speak English then that is enough to warrant a cop to verify there legal status. Not just for brown people either, if you are German and visiting America you should have to have your passport on you at all times, especially if you don't speak our native language

There are now a lot of Americans who could use the jobs these illegals are stealing, children of illegals are taking over our schools, the most dangerous gang in America right now is MS-13, they are everywhere small towns, rich towns, not just the ghetto and this gang is 80% illegal immigrants from Mexico and southern America. These people are violent and don't care about the rules of society.

I say kick them all the fuck out, we need to worry about our own people not some 3rd worlds poor people. There is ways to become a legal immigrant, and all these illegals spit on the work those legal immigrants have done to become a legal citizen of America.

brassmonkey 04-28-2010 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Smokieflame (Post 17083703)
I live in Phoenix, I once lived next door to illegals who did nothing but start problems. I called the cops on them several times to be told we can not enforce or ask for there legal status. Now if that situation were to happen the cops would in fact have to ask for there IDs just the same way they asked for our IDs when we called them. That is something people don't realize, cops in fear of losing there jobs here would never ask Mexicans who weren't breaking a serious law for there IDs b/c of racial profiling. Now they can and have to ask them for there ID. If me as an American am walking down the street and I look suspect or similar to someone who is being looked for and I get asked by a cop I have to provide a state issued ID. If I do not I can be taken to jail and charged with a misdemeanor, I have had friends who have had this happen.

Unlike Cali's borders AZ border with Mexico is HUGE, and there are alot of human traffic coming thru our borders here, then they spread out thru America. This has caused severe violence in every city and town across AZ not just border towns. The Rancher being killed was the straw that broke the camels back, that is attacking AZ heart when you go after our ranchers. There have also been dozens of situations that have unfolded on Tucson and Phoenix freeways, 2 of which ended in a moving gun battle on I-10 in the Ahwatukee area of southern phoenix. 4 people were killed that were doing nothing but driving home.

I personally don't think this law is tough enough. We as a nation have immigration laws, all legal immigrants have to speak a certain amount of English. So yes if a person can not speak English then that is enough to warrant a cop to verify there legal status. Not just for brown people either, if you are German and visiting America you should have to have your passport on you at all times, especially if you don't speak our native language

There are now a lot of Americans who could use the jobs these illegals are stealing, children of illegals are taking over our schools, the most dangerous gang in America right now is MS-13, they are everywhere small towns, rich towns, not just the ghetto and this gang is 80% illegal immigrants from Mexico and southern America. These people are violent and don't care about the rules of society.

I say kick them all the fuck out, we need to worry about our own people not some 3rd worlds poor people. There is ways to become a legal immigrant, and all these illegals spit on the work those legal immigrants have done to become a legal citizen of America.

damn i almost cried there was a bust yesterday on the west side phoenix 69 illegals living in a house :disgust

Vendzilla 04-28-2010 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Smokieflame (Post 17083703)
I live in Phoenix, I once lived next door to illegals who did nothing but start problems. I called the cops on them several times to be told we can not enforce or ask for there legal status. Now if that situation were to happen the cops would in fact have to ask for there IDs just the same way they asked for our IDs when we called them. That is something people don't realize, cops in fear of losing there jobs here would never ask Mexicans who weren't breaking a serious law for there IDs b/c of racial profiling. Now they can and have to ask them for there ID. If me as an American am walking down the street and I look suspect or similar to someone who is being looked for and I get asked by a cop I have to provide a state issued ID. If I do not I can be taken to jail and charged with a misdemeanor, I have had friends who have had this happen.

Unlike Cali's borders AZ border with Mexico is HUGE, and there are alot of human traffic coming thru our borders here, then they spread out thru America. This has caused severe violence in every city and town across AZ not just border towns. The Rancher being killed was the straw that broke the camels back, that is attacking AZ heart when you go after our ranchers. There have also been dozens of situations that have unfolded on Tucson and Phoenix freeways, 2 of which ended in a moving gun battle on I-10 in the Ahwatukee area of southern phoenix. 4 people were killed that were doing nothing but driving home.

I personally don't think this law is tough enough. We as a nation have immigration laws, all legal immigrants have to speak a certain amount of English. So yes if a person can not speak English then that is enough to warrant a cop to verify there legal status. Not just for brown people either, if you are German and visiting America you should have to have your passport on you at all times, especially if you don't speak our native language

There are now a lot of Americans who could use the jobs these illegals are stealing, children of illegals are taking over our schools, the most dangerous gang in America right now is MS-13, they are everywhere small towns, rich towns, not just the ghetto and this gang is 80% illegal immigrants from Mexico and southern America. These people are violent and don't care about the rules of society.

I say kick them all the fuck out, we need to worry about our own people not some 3rd worlds poor people. There is ways to become a legal immigrant, and all these illegals spit on the work those legal immigrants have done to become a legal citizen of America.

Thanx for pointing that out, I can't believe the crap thats coming out of my own state of california about this, we tried to pass prop 187 in 94 and it got overturned by a judge saying it was unconstitutional, I hope that your law stays in effect and anyone that boycotts your state looses for it

Fletch XXX 04-28-2010 03:55 PM

Regarding gangs, and especially MS13.

"On June 22, 2008, in San Francisco, California, a 21-year old MS gang member, Edwin Ramos, shot and killed a father, Anthony Bologna, 48, and his two sons Michael, 20, and Matthew, 16, after their car briefly blocked Ramos from completing a left turn down a narrow street as they were returning home from a family barbecue.[18]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mara_Salvatrucha

Shit like that is exactly why if you ride around and dont have something on you, you could be killed any fucking day of the week.

A friend of the family was just shot road rage, same style as the people above. And Ill be damned if it be me one day.

Never cruise LA without a gat in your lap.

If you are American and have no crim background, arm yourself and get conceal carry permit. Here in New orleans we can ride around with firearm in car without permit, so Ill be damned if some 20 year old illegal gonna roll on me and think i aint popping back.

blat blat motherfucker. Ill send you to hell

you approach my car, im already got my finger on the trigger bitch

brassmonkey 04-28-2010 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 17084239)
Regarding gangs, and especially MS13.

"On June 22, 2008, in San Francisco, California, a 21-year old MS gang member, Edwin Ramos, shot and killed a father, Anthony Bologna, 48, and his two sons Michael, 20, and Matthew, 16, after their car briefly blocked Ramos from completing a left turn down a narrow street as they were returning home from a family barbecue.[18]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mara_Salvatrucha

Shit like that is exactly why if you ride around and dont have something on you, you could be killed any fucking day of the week.

A friend of the family was just shot road rage, same style as the people above. And Ill be damned if it be me one day.

Never cruise LA without a gat in your lap.

If you are American and have no crim background, arm yourself and get conceal carry permit. Here in New orleans we can ride around with firearm in car without permit, so Ill be damned if some 20 year old illegal gonna roll on me and think i aint popping back.

blat blat motherfucker. Ill send you to hell

you approach my car, im already got my finger on the trigger bitch

i can cruise cali without a gat i stay mellow and keep tha peace thats in tha day tyme tho nite tyme its game time

Smokieflame 04-28-2010 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17075967)
Texan's carry guns, LMAO

AZ just passed a law you don't need a permit to conceal a gun as long as you are allowed to carry a gun legally and over 21 you are more then welcome to hide it, you are also welcome to walk into any building that is not a federal or state building with it on your hip not hidden. Sadly violence wont solve violence, it will only make it worse. I don't want my son getting shot while I am at Taco Bell b/c some white dudes and some Mexicans start having shoot outs in public. Its bad enough already, and sadly without this law its going to get to that point.

AZ may have fewer staying here, but our borders are the weakest of all the bordering states and we carry over 3/4 of the overall human smuggling and trafficking from Mexico. That's a lot of violence, and I am personally sick of it.

Fletch XXX 04-28-2010 04:24 PM

if nobody fucks with whitey then wont be no bloodshed, simple as that. As Mannie Fresh say" When I ride, Nina under the seat, I dont want no trouble, and trouble dont want me"

Self DEFENSE is more american than immigration.

Fletch XXX 04-28-2010 04:27 PM

another of my fave lyrics regarding self protection:

"You wanted trouble, and I wouldn't settle for lesser.
I am the devil in the flesh, my pistol is my protector. "

great track.



bump it

Vendzilla 04-28-2010 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Smokieflame (Post 17084404)
AZ just passed a law you don't need a permit to conceal a gun as long as you are allowed to carry a gun legally and over 21 you are more then welcome to hide it, you are also welcome to walk into any building that is not a federal or state building with it on your hip not hidden. Sadly violence wont solve violence, it will only make it worse. I don't want my son getting shot while I am at Taco Bell b/c some white dudes and some Mexicans start having shoot outs in public. Its bad enough already, and sadly without this law its going to get to that point.

AZ may have fewer staying here, but our borders are the weakest of all the bordering states and we carry over 3/4 of the overall human smuggling and trafficking from Mexico. That's a lot of violence, and I am personally sick of it.

Yeah, some people think that having 10k rounds of ammo excessive, LOL

brassmonkey 04-28-2010 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Smokieflame (Post 17084404)
AZ just passed a law you don't need a permit to conceal a gun as long as you are allowed to carry a gun legally and over 21 you are more then welcome to hide it, you are also welcome to walk into any building that is not a federal or state building with it on your hip not hidden. Sadly violence wont solve violence, it will only make it worse. I don't want my son getting shot while I am at Taco Bell b/c some white dudes and some Mexicans start having shoot outs in public. Its bad enough already, and sadly without this law its going to get to that point.

AZ may have fewer staying here, but our borders are the weakest of all the bordering states and we carry over 3/4 of the overall human smuggling and trafficking from Mexico. That's a lot of violence, and I am personally sick of it.

fewer illegals. taco bell :helpme :1orglaugh :Oh crap

escorpio 04-28-2010 04:42 PM

Now we need to do something about those negroes. :2 cents:

brassmonkey 04-28-2010 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by escorpio (Post 17084515)
we need to do something about those hispanics. :2 cents:

negroes in Az are legal fixed that 4u amigo :)

escorpio 04-28-2010 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 17084793)
negroes in Az are legal fixed that 4u amigo :)

So fucking what? They commit more crime and leech more off the taxpayers. Isn't that the issue?

brassmonkey 04-28-2010 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by escorpio (Post 17084883)
So fucking what? They commit more crime and leech more off the taxpayers. Isn't that the issue?

illegal immagration is the topic are u having trouble understanding :helpme you've already pushed racial slurs around this isnt the first time. where is this anger coming from :1orglaugh

Smokieflame 04-28-2010 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by escorpio (Post 17084883)
So fucking what? They commit more crime and leech more off the taxpayers. Isn't that the issue?

See now this is a prime example of racial profiling. Just because a person is black does not make them criminal. And I hate to rain on your parade but if you look at all the white gangs, biker gangs and all white militias we white people have just as many violent gang members across the USA as blacks do. However large of a problem this is it is a homegrown issue. Kind of like having a drug addict in the family. I will be totally honest, I am a small white girl and I feel 1000 times safer around thug black guys, or any black guy for that matter then I do around Mexicans that cant speak English and are very very rude to females. Trust me I dealt with them when I worked at Christie's In Tempe. I have done BDay Parties and Bachelor parties for blacks guys, have never had an issue. They are touchy but damn if they don't tip well! Would never do a party for Mexicans, just from what I have seen from them in clubs.

brassmonkey 04-28-2010 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Smokieflame (Post 17084958)
See now this is a prime example of racial profiling. Just because a person is black does not make them criminal. And I hate to rain on your parade but if you look at all the white gangs, biker gangs and all white militias we white people have just as many violent gang members across the USA as blacks do. However large of a problem this is it is a homegrown issue. Kind of like having a drug addict in the family. I will be totally honest, I am a small white girl and I feel 1000 times safer around thug black guys, or any black guy for that matter then I do around Mexicans that cant speak English and are very very rude to females. Trust me I dealt with them when I worked at Christie's In Tempe. I have done BDay Parties and Bachelor parties for blacks guys, have never had an issue. They are touchy but damn if they don't tip well! Would never do a party for Mexicans, just from what I have seen from them in clubs.

now thats real talk

JaneB 04-28-2010 07:48 PM

Mexican President Felipe Calderon has accused Arizona of opening the door "to intolerance, hate, discrimination and abuse in law enforcement." But Arizona has nothing on Mexico when it comes to cracking down on illegal aliens. While open-borders activists decry new enforcement measures signed into law in "Nazi-zona" last week, they remain deaf, dumb or willfully blind to the unapologetically restrictionist policies of our neighbors to the south.

The Arizona law bans sanctuary cities that refuse to enforce immigration laws, stiffens penalties against illegal alien day laborers and their employers, makes it a misdemeanor for immigrants to fail to complete and carry an alien registration document, and allows the police to arrest immigrants unable to show documents proving they are in the U.S. legally. If those rules constitute the racist, fascist, xenophobic, inhumane regime that the National Council of La Raza, Al Sharpton, Catholic bishops and their grievance-mongering followers claim, then what about these regulations and restrictions imposed on foreigners?

-- The Mexican government will bar foreigners if they upset "the equilibrium of the national demographics." How's that for racial and ethnic profiling?

-- If outsiders do not enhance the country's "economic or national interests" or are "not found to be physically or mentally healthy," they are not welcome. Neither are those who show "contempt against national sovereignty or security." They must not be economic burdens on society and must have clean criminal histories. Those seeking to obtain Mexican citizenship must show a birth certificate, provide a bank statement proving economic independence, pass an exam and prove they can provide their own health care.

-- Illegal entry into the country is equivalent to a felony punishable by two years' imprisonment. Document fraud is subject to fine and imprisonment; so is alien marriage fraud. Evading deportation is a serious crime; illegal re-entry after deportation is punishable by ten years' imprisonment. Foreigners may be kicked out of the country without due process and the endless bites at the litigation apple that illegal aliens are afforded in our country (see, for example, President Obama's illegal alien aunt -- a fugitive from deportation for eight years who is awaiting a second decision on her previously rejected asylum claim).

-- Law enforcement officials at all levels -- by national mandate -- must cooperate to enforce immigration laws, including illegal alien arrests and deportations. The Mexican military is also required to assist in immigration enforcement operations. Native-born Mexicans are empowered to make citizens' arrests of illegal aliens and turn them in to authorities.

-- Ready to show your papers? Mexico's National Catalog of Foreigners tracks all outside tourists and foreign nationals. A National Population Registry tracks and verifies the identity of every member of the population, who must carry a citizens' identity card. Visitors who do not possess proper documents and identification are subject to arrest as illegal aliens.

All of these provisions are enshrined in Mexico's Ley General de Población (General Law of the Population) and were spotlighted in a 2006 research paper published by the Washington, D.C.-based Center for Security Policy. There's been no public clamor

JaneB 04-28-2010 07:49 PM

Mexican President Felipe Calderon has accused Arizona of opening the door "to intolerance, hate, discrimination and abuse in law enforcement." But Arizona has nothing on Mexico when it comes to cracking down on illegal aliens. While open-borders activists decry new enforcement measures signed into law in "Nazi-zona" last week, they remain deaf, dumb or willfully blind to the unapologetically restrictionist policies of our neighbors to the south.

The Arizona law bans sanctuary cities that refuse to enforce immigration laws, stiffens penalties against illegal alien day laborers and their employers, makes it a misdemeanor for immigrants to fail to complete and carry an alien registration document, and allows the police to arrest immigrants unable to show documents proving they are in the U.S. legally. If those rules constitute the racist, fascist, xenophobic, inhumane regime that the National Council of La Raza, Al Sharpton, Catholic bishops and their grievance-mongering followers claim, then what about these regulations and restrictions imposed on foreigners?

-- The Mexican government will bar foreigners if they upset "the equilibrium of the national demographics." How's that for racial and ethnic profiling?

-- If outsiders do not enhance the country's "economic or national interests" or are "not found to be physically or mentally healthy," they are not welcome. Neither are those who show "contempt against national sovereignty or security." They must not be economic burdens on society and must have clean criminal histories. Those seeking to obtain Mexican citizenship must show a birth certificate, provide a bank statement proving economic independence, pass an exam and prove they can provide their own health care.

-- Illegal entry into the country is equivalent to a felony punishable by two years' imprisonment. Document fraud is subject to fine and imprisonment; so is alien marriage fraud. Evading deportation is a serious crime; illegal re-entry after deportation is punishable by ten years' imprisonment. Foreigners may be kicked out of the country without due process and the endless bites at the litigation apple that illegal aliens are afforded in our country (see, for example, President Obama's illegal alien aunt -- a fugitive from deportation for eight years who is awaiting a second decision on her previously rejected asylum claim).

-- Law enforcement officials at all levels -- by national mandate -- must cooperate to enforce immigration laws, including illegal alien arrests and deportations. The Mexican military is also required to assist in immigration enforcement operations. Native-born Mexicans are empowered to make citizens' arrests of illegal aliens and turn them in to authorities.

-- Ready to show your papers? Mexico's National Catalog of Foreigners tracks all outside tourists and foreign nationals. A National Population Registry tracks and verifies the identity of every member of the population, who must carry a citizens' identity card. Visitors who do not possess proper documents and identification are subject to arrest as illegal aliens.

All of these provisions are enshrined in Mexico's Ley General de Población (General Law of the Population) and were spotlighted in a 2006 research paper published by the Washington, D.C.-based Center for Security Policy. There's been no public clamor


Consider: Open-borders protesters marched freely at the Capitol building in Arizona, comparing GOP Gov. Jan Brewer to Hitler, waving Mexican flags, advocating that demonstrators "Smash the State," and holding signs that proclaimed "No human is illegal" and "We have rights."

But under the Mexican constitution, such political speech by foreigners is banned. Noncitizens cannot "in any way participate in the political affairs of the country." In fact, a plethora of Mexican statutes enacted by its congress limit the participation of foreign nationals and companies in everything from investment, education, mining and civil aviation to electric energy and firearms. Foreigners have severely limited private property and employment rights (if any).

As for abuse, the Mexican government is notorious for its abuse of Central American illegal aliens who attempt to violate Mexico's southern border. The Red Cross has protested rampant Mexican police corruption, intimidation and bribery schemes targeting illegal aliens there for years. Mexico didn't respond by granting mass amnesty to illegal aliens, as it is demanding that we do. It clamped down on its borders even further. In late 2008, the Mexican government launched an aggressive deportation plan to curtain illegal Cuban immigration and human trafficking through Cancun.

Meanwhile, Mexican consular offices in the United States have coordinated with left-wing social justice groups and the Catholic Church leadership to demand a moratorium on all deportations and a freeze on all employment raids across America.

Mexico is doing the job Arizona is now doing -- a job the U.S. government has failed miserably to do: putting its people first. Here's the proper rejoinder to all the hysterical demagogues in Mexico (and their sympathizers here on American soil) now calling for boycotts and invoking Jim Crow laws, apartheid and the Holocaust because Arizona has taken its sovereignty into its own hands:

Hipócritas.

JaneB 04-28-2010 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 17081903)
shakira sucks ass isnt she cuban



She is not Cuban, I am pretty sure she is from Columbia.

brassmonkey 04-28-2010 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JaneB (Post 17085024)
Mexican President Felipe Calderon has accused Arizona of opening the door "to intolerance, hate, discrimination and abuse in law enforcement." But Arizona has nothing on Mexico when it comes to cracking down on illegal aliens. While open-borders activists decry new enforcement measures signed into law in "Nazi-zona" last week, they remain deaf, dumb or willfully blind to the unapologetically restrictionist policies of our neighbors to the south.

The Arizona law bans sanctuary cities that refuse to enforce immigration laws, stiffens penalties against illegal alien day laborers and their employers, makes it a misdemeanor for immigrants to fail to complete and carry an alien registration document, and allows the police to arrest immigrants unable to show documents proving they are in the U.S. legally. If those rules constitute the racist, fascist, xenophobic, inhumane regime that the National Council of La Raza, Al Sharpton, Catholic bishops and their grievance-mongering followers claim, then what about these regulations and restrictions imposed on foreigners?

-- The Mexican government will bar foreigners if they upset "the equilibrium of the national demographics." How's that for racial and ethnic profiling?

-- If outsiders do not enhance the country's "economic or national interests" or are "not found to be physically or mentally healthy," they are not welcome. Neither are those who show "contempt against national sovereignty or security." They must not be economic burdens on society and must have clean criminal histories. Those seeking to obtain Mexican citizenship must show a birth certificate, provide a bank statement proving economic independence, pass an exam and prove they can provide their own health care.

-- Illegal entry into the country is equivalent to a felony punishable by two years' imprisonment. Document fraud is subject to fine and imprisonment; so is alien marriage fraud. Evading deportation is a serious crime; illegal re-entry after deportation is punishable by ten years' imprisonment. Foreigners may be kicked out of the country without due process and the endless bites at the litigation apple that illegal aliens are afforded in our country (see, for example, President Obama's illegal alien aunt -- a fugitive from deportation for eight years who is awaiting a second decision on her previously rejected asylum claim).

-- Law enforcement officials at all levels -- by national mandate -- must cooperate to enforce immigration laws, including illegal alien arrests and deportations. The Mexican military is also required to assist in immigration enforcement operations. Native-born Mexicans are empowered to make citizens' arrests of illegal aliens and turn them in to authorities.

-- Ready to show your papers? Mexico's National Catalog of Foreigners tracks all outside tourists and foreign nationals. A National Population Registry tracks and verifies the identity of every member of the population, who must carry a citizens' identity card. Visitors who do not possess proper documents and identification are subject to arrest as illegal aliens.

All of these provisions are enshrined in Mexico's Ley General de Población (General Law of the Population) and were spotlighted in a 2006 research paper published by the Washington, D.C.-based Center for Security Policy. There's been no public clamor

fuck them :2 cents: that shit is a big ass gang neighborhood corupt corupt did i say corupt :helpme :helpme

brassmonkey 04-28-2010 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JaneB (Post 17085032)
She is not Cuban, I am pretty sure she is from Columbia.

0k :) i dont really care she's a piece of ass her music sucks 300 running illegals

Tanker 04-28-2010 08:32 PM

Yeah I dont know how the president of Mexico has even a platform to stand on!


and these people bitch that we are softer then their own country

how many of you have been stopped by federalize

spacedog 04-28-2010 08:32 PM

Although I don't live in AZ, I'm glad she signed the bill. Fuck the illegals.. they're here illegally and should be treated like the fucking criminals they are, not given fucking government handouts and free rides to rape the system.

I think all states should pass a similar bill since the fucking commie in wash. won't do shit.

The US should of closed the doors to immigration many years ago and sealed up the fucking south border so people can't break in.

Smokieflame 04-28-2010 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Tanker (Post 17085140)
Yeah I dont know how the president of Mexico has even a platform to stand on!


and these people bitch that we are softer then their own country

how many of you have been stopped by federalize

I have been and it sucked, they told us we give them all but $20 we had on us or we go to jail, oh the officer offered to take it out on trade with me... I was fucking 17 and the cop new it!!! All we did was run a stop sign, the sign was hidden behind a LARGE tree, for a railroad crossing in Rocky Point. I will actually never go back to Mexico, I have turned down some very well paying shoots that were in Mexico... Fuck that shit.

Smokieflame 04-28-2010 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by spacedog (Post 17085143)
Although I don't live in AZ, I'm glad she signed the bill. Fuck the illegals.. they're here illegally and should be treated like the fucking criminals they are, not given fucking government handouts and free rides to rape the system.

I think all states should pass a similar bill since the fucking commie in wash. won't do shit.

The US should of closed the doors to immigration many years ago and sealed up the fucking south border so people can't break in.

All states do have this law, its actually a federal law that the feds wont allow states to enforce nor will they allow federal officers in any state enforce. But potheads go to jail for years for being potheads... Have to love our law makers.


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