siccash.com owe me money - GoFuckYourself.com

miguel7 · 12-12-2002, 01:54 PM

my story with siccash.com

They didn't send me any check .. so I wrote them: (details inside)

> Hello,
>
> Please let me explain my situation:
>
> July / August 2002 - you stopped pay me and you told me something about
> fraudulent SignUps from my account. I emailed you that it must be an error
> and I wanted see proof! About week later you e-mailed me about
> 'misunderstanding' and you payed me all my money (I received all checks) and
> I continued promote your sites....
>
> But from September 2002 I DIDN'T RECEIVE any check from you !!!
> My stats shows me this:
>
> 2002-09-26 09:45:00 Check printed for period 2002-09-16 -> 2002-09-22,
> amount: $540.00
> 2002-10-22 12:32:02 Check printed for period 2002-10-07 -> 2002-10-13,
> amount: $500.00
> 2002-11-12 13:01:33 Check printed for period 2002-10-28 -> 2002-11-03,
> amount: $410.00
> 2002-12-05 13:55:50 Check printed for period 2002-11-25 -> 2002-12-01,
> amount: $420.00
>
> I'm sure I never saw these checks!
> Maybe you forgot to set me "OK" in bank or ..
>
> Thank you for reply
> Michal

They reply me this:

I submitted your email regarding webmaster payouts to the owner. He has reviewed your account and noted that your address is in Slovakia, not Austria as you claimed in your original signup (Brno is a city in Slovakia) and again when the last set of problems occurred. When you were asked about the address/country discrepancy in the past, you never responded to my question about your signing up for account with fraudulent information at all. Your account has been zeroed out per his instructions; please remove Shaw's links from your website. Shaw Internet will not pay on referrals from account 9374.

The most funny is city "Brno" in Slovakia...
Brno is the city of Czech republic but this counry is banned too...
Becouse I was born in Czech republic "I'm bad" and siccash.com can shave me!
I think they knew about my real nationality but they did nothink (block login/pass or set income to "$0" as they did before) and I promoted their sites and I made good cash for them :-(

Miguel
sexy-photos.net
hqseek.com

TheFLY · 12-12-2002, 01:57 PM

Brad Shaw is just a cheater. He doesn't care how he gets his money. He owes me ~$900 too...

TheFLY · 12-12-2002, 01:59 PM

Makes no sense. If you earn the money -- you should get paid no matter where you live... Signups are signups... Fuck these greedy affiliate programs.

BradShaw · 12-12-2002, 01:59 PM

I am in Vancouver, but your account rings a bell.

You are in Slovakia, which is against our terms. We do not permit webmasters from Slovakia as it clearly states in our terms.

This has NOTHING to do with where you were born, it has to do with where we were sending your checks, and we DO NOT send checks to Slovakia, like many programs.

Undutchable · 12-12-2002, 02:00 PM

Well I must say that if you have used fraudelent info then the consequences are yours...

On the other hand though, I don't think the approach from Siccash is very professional, and I'm a bit amazed at some of the comments I've seen their representatives make on this board. I'm still promoting them, but I do hope I won't get screwed anytime soon

Ohwell

Petr · 12-12-2002, 02:01 PM

Brad, Brno is in the Czech Republic. Not in Slovakia.

doobster · 12-12-2002, 02:01 PM

sounds pretty straight forward to me

TheFLY · 12-12-2002, 02:02 PM

Quote:

[i]This has NOTHING to do with where you were born, it has to do with where we were sending your checks, and we DO NOT send checks to Slovakia, like many programs. [/B]

So why not just mail the check to another address?

TheFLY · 12-12-2002, 02:03 PM

Shit webmasters move all the time. If I move to a "banned" country -- who the fuck cares...? Just mail my freakin' money to a different address...

TheFLY · 12-12-2002, 02:05 PM

The TOS is supposed to prevent fraud... If you just use your TOS to ban people for silly reasons then you are just a fucking <font size=+3> PUSSY</font>

miguel7 · 12-12-2002, 02:05 PM

Study geography!!!
Brno is in Czech republic not Slovakia!!!

sextoyking · 12-12-2002, 02:05 PM

Petr,

I have been through brno a few times, nice city.

Nydahl · 12-12-2002, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
I am in Vancouver, but your account rings a bell.

You are in Slovakia, which is against our terms. We do not permit webmasters from Slovakia as it clearly states in our terms.

This has NOTHING to do with where you were born, it has to do with where we were sending your checks, and we DO NOT send checks to Slovakia, like many programs.

something personal against people from Czech or Slovak?I am former kick boxer

Sly_RJ · 12-12-2002, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY
Shit webmasters move all the time. If I move to a "banned" country -- who the fuck cares...? Just mail my freakin' money to a different address...

Sounds like he filled in the wrong address on the application.

No wonder you're so touchy...

TheFLY · 12-12-2002, 02:07 PM

The thing is that Miguel is not just some random webmaster... the guy has huge trades with just about every babe site on the planet... His traffic is gold.

LiveDose · 12-12-2002, 02:08 PM

Wow, 2 months & 2 G's for them to figure out where Brno is located...

LOL

Fletch XXX · 12-12-2002, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Sounds like he filled in the wrong address on the application.

No wonder you're so touchy...

dayum.

TheFLY · 12-12-2002, 02:11 PM

To Brad Shaw,

TOS = How I pay for my boats.

Yeah well it will all catch up to you. You are going to have to change the name of your lousy programs. Everyone knows that SIC and Brad Shaw = SHIT. How come you have such a hard time keeping employees? You're a dishonest piece of shit.

Petr · 12-12-2002, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sextoyking
Petr,

I have been through brno a few times, nice city.

Hi Todd... Actually, I have been to Brno just once. So you probably know it better than I do...

Anyway, back to Miguel vs Brad.

Dveron · 12-12-2002, 02:12 PM

You need a PO Box in Western Europe that will foward stuff on.

TheFLY · 12-12-2002, 02:14 PM

You think you can just fuck webmasters because they don't speak english well? We are all in this together... You fuck one of us and we will ALL fuck you back.

Nydahl · 12-12-2002, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY
You think you can just fuck webmasters because they don't speak english well? We are all in this together... You fuck one of us and we will ALL fuck you back.

Fly is right - you are to pay him!!What have you done with money he made for you....he?new car or vibrator or what?

p1mpdogg · 12-12-2002, 02:20 PM

this thread would not be complete without an epiccash.com spam..

see sig.
poetic justice

FuqALot · 12-12-2002, 02:23 PM

Dayum. Don't Fuxor with theFLYzor!

FreeFastHost · 12-12-2002, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY
The thing is that Miguel is not just some random webmaster... the guy has huge trades with just about every babe site on the planet... His traffic is gold.

I agree.

He's an honest webmaster that should get paid.

Sly_RJ · 12-12-2002, 02:29 PM

Good God.

This guy, whoever he is, directly broke the TOS. When you break the TOS over something, especially when it's as straightforward as your location, you have no right to bitch and expect payment.

You broke the rules. It's your fault. Nobody has to pay you.

But, as long as all sign-ups are good, no cheating involved... as a good businessman, Brad SHOULD pay up, but we all know that isn't the case...

Tough luck man. Set up a residence or something in another country. You can't blame them for restricting problem countries, that's how things are done with all sponsors.

TheFLY · 12-12-2002, 02:30 PM

See guys like Brad Shaw live in a bubble -- they don't give a shit where the money comes from. It's the whole 12Clicks attitude "The fool pulls the wise man's finger..." -- it's all about "me me me" -- stop thinking about yourself for once and have some integrity.

TheFLY · 12-12-2002, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
Good God.

This guy, whoever he is, directly broke the TOS. When you break the TOS over something, especially when it's as straightforward as your location, you have no right to bitch and expect payment.

And who the fuck will trust a webmaster that's going to cancel somebody over some little bullshit? Are you in the business of fucking people over or are you in the business of selling porn?

Go ahead and hide behind your TOS -- you're just a pussy like Brad.

Sly_RJ · 12-12-2002, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY

And who the fuck will trust a webmaster that's going to cancel somebody over some little bullshit? Are you in the business of fucking people over or are you in the business of selling porn?

Go ahead and hide behind your TOS -- you're just a pussy like Brad.

Did you read the whole post or did your panties get scrunched so far up your twat that you didn't notice there was more?

TheFLY · 12-12-2002, 02:35 PM

Was there any sign of credit card fraud? Was there any sign of cheating?

No. Why the fuck would we be here bitching then. This thread should be supported by every non-USA webmaster. Miguel knows he's not getting his money regardless. It's time for all the hardworking non-USA webmasters to speak up... I work with them every day!

LUCL0NELY · 12-12-2002, 02:36 PM

thefly is my new hero

TheFLY · 12-12-2002, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Did you read the whole post or did your panties get scrunched so far up your twat that you didn't notice there was more?

I don't dress like a woman. Ask Brad, maybe he will pose for you.

MrPopup · 12-12-2002, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY
Was there any sign of credit card fraud? Was there any sign of cheating?

No. Why the fuck would we be here bitching then. This thread should be supported by every non-USA webmaster. Miguel knows he's not getting his money regardless. It's time for all the hardworking non-USA webmasters to speak up... I work with them every day!

He broke the TOS. What good is a TOS if it isn't followed?

Sly_RJ · 12-12-2002, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY
Was there any sign of credit card fraud? Was there any sign of cheating?

No. Why the fuck would we be here bitching then. This thread should be supported by every non-USA webmaster. Miguel knows he's not getting his money regardless. It's time for all the hardworking non-USA webmasters to speak up... I work with them every day!

Blah blah blabbity fucking blah.

We should award you some type of medal. Yeh, I've got it... the Resident GFY Bitch. Would work perfect.

Do you like any sponsors man? Or have they all raped your ass? Come on man, fess up... that glass dick we've all seen Boneprone with, you screamed like Sally when that was pounding your sweet ass. Ooohh, baby.

As one of my good friends always says, "Aye, papi!" Is that International enough for you?

miguel7 · 12-12-2002, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Set up a residence or something in another country. You can't blame them for restricting problem countries, that's how things are done with all sponsors.

hmm... good idea.
I have family and friends here and no money to move!
Only own pay site can be my sureness :-(

I think siccash.com knew sooner that I'm from banned country but they did nothing! They didn't block my account (like now) and I generated SU for them for free....

---------
Thanks The FLY, thanks too all my friends and serious webmasters!

topal · 12-12-2002, 02:45 PM

this is the most stupid reason to keep his money!

if there is someone cheats.. its "SIC"cash...

go on and wire his money or i will remove all links nd you will loose more then you save!

<IMX> · 12-12-2002, 02:46 PM

Trouble is once your TOS becomes subjective you are bound for trouble.

Sly_RJ · 12-12-2002, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by miguel7

I think siccash.com knew sooner that I'm from banned country but they did nothing! They didn't block my account (like now) and I generated SU for them for free....

Probably, I wouldn't trust Brad with my enemies child. His grin wreaks (sp?) of shit.

FlyingIguana · 12-12-2002, 02:46 PM

i'd like to know why sic cash allowed him to send that many sign ups? were they just gonna steal his traffic until he inquired about where his money was?

[The Leader] · 12-12-2002, 02:46 PM

I love it when people break the TOS but come here to complain about money they're owed. If the program says they don't pay people in your country, don't send them traffic. It's that simple.

fucking idiots

<IMX> · 12-12-2002, 02:47 PM

Trouble is once your TOS becomes subjective you are bound for trouble.

DrGuile · 12-12-2002, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [The Leader]
I love it when people break the TOS but come here to complain about money they're owed. If the program says they don't pay people in your country, don't send them traffic. It's that simple.

right. the list of banned country is in the TOS. the guy is in a country that is banned. He knows it so he signups under a bogus address and then change it.

duh.... how dumb are you? Of course they will shit can you....

TomasDean · 12-12-2002, 03:00 PM

Brad, everybody knows that this restriction about Country in your rules is for prevent cheaters. But also everybody knows that it does not metter where am I from, I can be a honest webmaster even if I live in {insert_your_favourite_baned_country_here}

If you think that Miguel was cheating you, then write here the PROOF.

If you do not wish to pay him ONLY because he is from Czech, then FUCK YOU !!!!!!!!! Ass hole!!!!!

Brad Mitchell · 12-12-2002, 03:01 PM

Brad, can you please have someone responsible for your affiliate accounts contact me. I'm trying to assist a mutual affiliate of ours.

Brad
ICQ 56950199
Toll Free 1-866-TELE-XXX

[The Leader] · 12-12-2002, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nydahl

Fly is right - you are to pay him!!What have you done with money he made for you....he?new car or vibrator or what?

You're stupid.

Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY

And who the fuck will trust a webmaster that's going to cancel somebody over some little bullshit? Are you in the business of fucking people over or are you in the business of selling porn?

Go ahead and hide behind your TOS -- you're just a pussy like Brad.

Being from a banned country and lying about it is little bullshit? You're stupid too. Obviously you've never run an affiliate program.

Quote:

Originally posted by topal
this is the most stupid reason to keep his money!

if there is someone cheats.. its "SIC"cash...

go on and wire his money or i will remove all links nd you will loose more then you save!

Guess what, you're stupid as well. Nice threat, I'm sure Brad's almost ready to break down in tears.

Quote:

Originally posted by FlyingIguana
i'd like to know why sic cash allowed him to send that many sign ups? were they just gonna steal his traffic until he inquired about where his money was?

When you have 5000 affiliates you don't always catch every lier/cheater right away. He gave them fasle info, they should sue him for everything he's made up until now. I don't care what a "big shot" this guy is in the tgp world. I'm sure Brad doesn't either.

TheFLY · 12-12-2002, 03:02 PM

The whole point of the banned country list is to prevent CC fraud... If all his signups clear what's the point of not paying?

Miguel was being paid ~10 paychecks before all of this... obviously it didn't matter where Miguel lived until...?

p1mpdogg · 12-12-2002, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FlyingIguana
i'd like to know why sic cash allowed him to send that many sign ups? were they just gonna steal his traffic until he inquired about where his money was?

he has a point there.

In my join form i just simply took out the countries I didnt want to allow as affiliates. Its not that hard todo.

[The Leader] · 12-12-2002, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TomasDean
Brad, everybody knows that this restriction about Country in your rules is for prevent cheaters. But also everybody knows that it does not metter where am I from, I can be a honest webmaster even if I live in {insert_your_favourite_baned_country_here}

If you think that Miguel was cheating you, then write here the PROOF.

If you do not wish to pay him ONLY because he is from Czech, then FUCK YOU !!!!!!!!! Ass hole!!!!!

LOL, I don't understand why it's so hard for people to understand the whole banned countries thing. I swear you must by retarted or not understand English. It's the one percent rule, it's not worth anyones time to look for the 1% of honest webmasters from your country, while having to deal with the other 99% who are trying to steal. Using a sponsor isn't your God given right, it's up to the program owner who he wants to buy traffic from. If you don't like it, set up your own sponsor program that allows all countries. Then you can spend your days getting ripped off by dirtbags from lawless countries.

[The Leader] · 12-12-2002, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg

he has a point there.

In my join form i just simply took out the countries I didnt want to allow as affiliates. Its not that hard todo.

From what I can tell he joined with fasle information.

[The Leader] · 12-12-2002, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY
The whole point of the banned country list is to prevent CC fraud... If all his signups clear what's the point of not paying?

Miguel was being paid ~10 paychecks before all of this... obviously it didn't matter where Miguel lived until...?

LOL, I was right, you are stupid. CC fraud is far from the only factor.

12-12-2002, 01:54 PM	#1
miguel7 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Czech Republic, Brno Posts: 139	siccash.com owe me money my story with siccash.com They didn't send me any check .. so I wrote them: (details inside) > Hello, > > Please let me explain my situation: > > July / August 2002 - you stopped pay me and you told me something about > fraudulent SignUps from my account. I emailed you that it must be an error > and I wanted see proof! About week later you e-mailed me about > 'misunderstanding' and you payed me all my money (I received all checks) and > I continued promote your sites.... > > But from September 2002 I DIDN'T RECEIVE any check from you !!! > My stats shows me this: > > 2002-09-26 09:45:00 Check printed for period 2002-09-16 -> 2002-09-22, > amount: $540.00 > 2002-10-22 12:32:02 Check printed for period 2002-10-07 -> 2002-10-13, > amount: $500.00 > 2002-11-12 13:01:33 Check printed for period 2002-10-28 -> 2002-11-03, > amount: $410.00 > 2002-12-05 13:55:50 Check printed for period 2002-11-25 -> 2002-12-01, > amount: $420.00 > > I'm sure I never saw these checks! > Maybe you forgot to set me "OK" in bank or .. > > Thank you for reply > Michal They reply me this: I submitted your email regarding webmaster payouts to the owner. He has reviewed your account and noted that your address is in Slovakia, not Austria as you claimed in your original signup (Brno is a city in Slovakia) and again when the last set of problems occurred. When you were asked about the address/country discrepancy in the past, you never responded to my question about your signing up for account with fraudulent information at all. Your account has been zeroed out per his instructions; please remove Shaw's links from your website. Shaw Internet will not pay on referrals from account 9374. The most funny is city "Brno" in Slovakia... Brno is the city of Czech republic but this counry is banned too... Becouse I was born in Czech republic "I'm bad" and siccash.com can shave me! I think they knew about my real nationality but they did nothink (block login/pass or set income to "$0" as they did before) and I promoted their sites and I made good cash for them :-( Miguel sexy-photos.net hqseek.com

12-12-2002, 01:59 PM	#4
BradShaw Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: KB's trailer Posts: 7,840	I am in Vancouver, but your account rings a bell. You are in Slovakia, which is against our terms. We do not permit webmasters from Slovakia as it clearly states in our terms. This has NOTHING to do with where you were born, it has to do with where we were sending your checks, and we DO NOT send checks to Slovakia, like many programs. __________________ Sig too big http://www.gofuckyourself.com/gfy_faqs.html Want to use a large banner in your sig??? Contact Eric about getting on as an advertiser - eric AT adult.com

12-12-2002, 02:01 PM	#7
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12-12-2002, 02:05 PM	#12
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12-12-2002, 02:08 PM	#16
LiveDose Show Yer Tits! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Somewhere Out there... Posts: 25,792	Wow, 2 months & 2 G's for them to figure out where Brno is located... LOL __________________ Scammer Alert: acer19 acer [email protected] [email protected] Money stolen using PayPal

12-12-2002, 01:57 PM	#2
TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	Brad Shaw is just a cheater. He doesn't care how he gets his money. He owes me ~$900 too...

12-12-2002, 02:00 PM	#5
Undutchable Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 2,217	Well I must say that if you have used fraudelent info then the consequences are yours... On the other hand though, I don't think the approach from Siccash is very professional, and I'm a bit amazed at some of the comments I've seen their representatives make on this board. I'm still promoting them, but I do hope I won't get screwed anytime soon Ohwell

12-12-2002, 02:01 PM	#6
Petr Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 502	Brad, Brno is in the Czech Republic. Not in Slovakia.

12-12-2002, 02:03 PM	#9
TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	Shit webmasters move all the time. If I move to a "banned" country -- who the fuck cares...? Just mail my freakin' money to a different address...

12-12-2002, 02:07 PM	#15
TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	The thing is that Miguel is not just some random webmaster... the guy has huge trades with just about every babe site on the planet... His traffic is gold.

12-12-2002, 02:11 PM	#18
TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	To Brad Shaw, TOS = How I pay for my boats. Yeah well it will all catch up to you. You are going to have to change the name of your lousy programs. Everyone knows that SIC and Brad Shaw = SHIT. How come you have such a hard time keeping employees? You're a dishonest piece of shit.

12-12-2002, 02:12 PM	#20
Dveron Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Vancouver Posts: 2,794	You need a PO Box in Western Europe that will foward stuff on.

12-12-2002, 02:14 PM	#21
TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	You think you can just fuck webmasters because they don't speak english well? We are all in this together... You fuck one of us and we will ALL fuck you back.

12-12-2002, 02:20 PM	#23
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12-12-2002, 02:23 PM	#24
FuqALot Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Malibu Posts: 3,817	Dayum. Don't Fuxor with theFLYzor!

12-12-2002, 02:29 PM	#26
Sly_RJ Live Hard - Die Hard Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Ready to leave... Posts: 17,042	Good God. This guy, whoever he is, directly broke the TOS. When you break the TOS over something, especially when it's as straightforward as your location, you have no right to bitch and expect payment. You broke the rules. It's your fault. Nobody has to pay you. But, as long as all sign-ups are good, no cheating involved... as a good businessman, Brad SHOULD pay up, but we all know that isn't the case... Tough luck man. Set up a residence or something in another country. You can't blame them for restricting problem countries, that's how things are done with all sponsors. __________________ PHAT SERVERS - Quality dedicated hosting at a quality price! sly AT phatservers DOT com - 147479144

12-12-2002, 02:30 PM	#27
TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	See guys like Brad Shaw live in a bubble -- they don't give a shit where the money comes from. It's the whole 12Clicks attitude "The fool pulls the wise man's finger..." -- it's all about "me me me" -- stop thinking about yourself for once and have some integrity.

12-12-2002, 02:35 PM	#30
TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	Was there any sign of credit card fraud? Was there any sign of cheating? No. Why the fuck would we be here bitching then. This thread should be supported by every non-USA webmaster. Miguel knows he's not getting his money regardless. It's time for all the hardworking non-USA webmasters to speak up... I work with them every day!

12-12-2002, 02:36 PM	#31
LUCL0NELY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: AZN KLAN'S MAIN LAND Posts: 1,527	thefly is my new hero

12-12-2002, 02:45 PM	#36
topal Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 606	this is the most stupid reason to keep his money! if there is someone cheats.. its "SIC"cash... go on and wire his money or i will remove all links nd you will loose more then you save!

12-12-2002, 02:46 PM	#37
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12-12-2002, 02:46 PM	#39
FlyingIguana aspiring banker Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: toronto Posts: 10,870	i'd like to know why sic cash allowed him to send that many sign ups? were they just gonna steal his traffic until he inquired about where his money was?

12-12-2002, 02:46 PM	#40
[The Leader] Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Van City Posts: 1,026	I love it when people break the TOS but come here to complain about money they're owed. If the program says they don't pay people in your country, don't send them traffic. It's that simple. fucking idiots __________________ <br> <embed src="http://www.bigleaguebetting.com/ph.swf?http://www.prohosters.com" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="120" height="60" menu="false" quality="high"><br>

12-12-2002, 02:47 PM	#41
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12-12-2002, 03:00 PM	#43
TomasDean So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Czech republic Posts: 2,292	Brad, everybody knows that this restriction about Country in your rules is for prevent cheaters. But also everybody knows that it does not metter where am I from, I can be a honest webmaster even if I live in {insert_your_favourite_baned_country_here} If you think that Miguel was cheating you, then write here the PROOF. If you do not wish to pay him ONLY because he is from Czech, then FUCK YOU !!!!!!!!! Ass hole!!!!!

12-12-2002, 03:01 PM	#44
Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,812	Brad, can you please have someone responsible for your affiliate accounts contact me. I'm trying to assist a mutual affiliate of ours. Brad ICQ 56950199 Toll Free 1-866-TELE-XXX __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

12-12-2002, 03:02 PM	#46
TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	The whole point of the banned country list is to prevent CC fraud... If all his signups clear what's the point of not paying? Miguel was being paid ~10 paychecks before all of this... obviously it didn't matter where Miguel lived until...?