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JFK · 07-21-2009, 09:39 AM

100 great success Tips

Shap · 07-22-2009, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by JFK

100 great success Tips

Thanks JFK

JFK · 07-22-2009, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Shap

Thanks JFK

Pleasure sir, keep up the good work

kristin · 07-22-2009, 08:54 AM

One thing I've always admired about your company Shap is you take one project at a time and do it right, to perfection.

We recently put a halt on some of our newer projects to really focus on our program, sites, etc. We released the mobile, added a lot more content, looked at new tours, did a lot of testing, optimizing, and monetizing.

As as many have said, cutting expenses is the way go to as well. Do you really need to spend $30k on a dinner that will probably not get you the ROI expected or is it worth $10k to show appreciation to your current WMs who actually send you traffic?

kristin · 07-22-2009, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Shap

Which is fine. How is that related to this thread?

It doesn't ... many WMs would rather blame tubes for all of what's happening rather than finding solutions.

How many TGPs/MGPs changed over years in terms of design? And then most had their traffic being handled by a third party after awhile.

One has to be willing to change with the times and put in the effort, yes it's not as easy as 1999, but what is?

sexdatesj · 07-22-2009, 09:02 AM

Very well said and well put. Thanks!

mb · 07-22-2009, 09:13 AM

Thanks Shap... you reminded me of a few things. Funny how after all these years you can let the little things slip.

marc

gideongallery · 07-22-2009, 02:28 PM

put an offer in every payment you send out

print it on the cheque stub portion

i have done this in my business and it really pays off not only will you get sales from your affiliates/suppliers but from their banks and accountants too.

Aquarius · 07-22-2009, 03:38 PM

Nice tips man!

07-22-2009, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Roald

Alexis Texas

Roald you are my pal...her site goes up in 3 weeks, almost done. She's doing a funky reality shoot for her site the next several days. I hope you got the zips today..my Mac is temperamental lately.

And thx for being patient with us..being new and all

Shap - damn good advice, thx so much!

gideongallery · 07-22-2009, 07:13 PM

bump for a thread with really good ideas

chompers · 07-22-2009, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery

bump for a thread with really good ideas

I agree.

It's funny how Steve Lightspeed never returned to this thread. I like how he got busted on gfy for his top affiliate making only $400 a month he manually changed it to show $20k+. Then also came in posting he had his best day ever.

He wrote Greed Kills. He should remember that ego kills too

Steve's has had great success, he is no doubt a smart man. It's a shame he's turned into one of the crybabies that cries for things to go back to 2001. 2001 is gone. I'm sure Palm wished it was 2001 again lol. I'm sure Dell wishes it was 2001 again. Probably worldcom, lehman brothers, gm also wish it was 2001. It ain't. It's 2009. Get used to it.

WHOOOOOOOOO WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

SteveLightspeed · 07-22-2009, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by chompers

I agree.

It's funny how Steve Lightspeed never returned to this thread. I like how he got busted on gfy for his top affiliate making only $400 a month he manually changed it to show $20k+. Then also came in posting he had his best day ever.

He wrote Greed Kills. He should remember that ego kills too

Steve's has had great success, he is no doubt a smart man. It's a shame he's turned into one of the crybabies that cries for things to go back to 2001. 2001 is gone. I'm sure Palm wished it was 2001 again lol. I'm sure Dell wishes it was 2001 again. Probably worldcom, lehman brothers, gm also wish it was 2001. It ain't. It's 2009. Get used to it.

WHOOOOOOOOO WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

The only person who ever agrees with GideonIdiot is his other fake nicks.

And FYI, I didn't "manually change" anything. The tracker is a rolling 31 day total. Sometimes the #1 spot it is lower and sometimes it is higher. It changes every day.

And I'm not crying for the past either. I'm working on a new idea that will fuck up illegal tubes and put the honest people in this business back on top.

"Adapt and Kill"

jesse_adultdatingdollars · 07-23-2009, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee

i like your sig

I like that sig to

gideongallery · 07-23-2009, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

The only person who ever agrees with GideonIdiot is his other fake nicks.

And FYI, I didn't "manually change" anything. The tracker is a rolling 31 day total. Sometimes the #1 spot it is lower and sometimes it is higher. It changes every day.

1. have eric check the ip address of the post, i don't have fake nicks period

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And I'm not crying for the past either. I'm working on a new idea that will fuck up illegal tubes and put the honest people in this business back on top.

"Adapt and Kill"

2. good luck with that, your lawyers were the ones who said it was ok to trademark a name without doing a search thru id records of produced porn for prior uses of that name.
i am not to confident that anything the come up with be anything but a massive waste of time but maybe you got lucky this time.

like i said before when you mentioned i am going to be the first person to predict this will fail.

oceania · 07-23-2009, 06:32 AM

good point - should be done on a regular basis

mabcom · 07-23-2009, 06:35 AM

Do you or do you know of someone in the business that will look at a site(s) and make recommendations to improve them?
My wife and I have been on over 15 years now as amaeturs!
A lot of people love us and we are also hated because of the fetish content we include. Used to be a big producer but has fallen off.
We love the business and being in it literally. Just need ideas I guess.

gideongallery · 07-23-2009, 11:36 AM

shap keep the ideas comming

Shap · 07-27-2009, 07:19 AM

Hey Steve. I replied to your comments but obviously haven't heard a reply from you. I'm just curious why you felt it necessary to come to this thread and make comments that were in many ways irrelevant to what I was saying? This thread was about helping people improve their business and not in any way about being greed or screwing the surfer.

Shap · 07-27-2009, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by kristin

One thing I've always admired about your company Shap is you take one project at a time and do it right, to perfection.

We recently put a halt on some of our newer projects to really focus on our program, sites, etc. We released the mobile, added a lot more content, looked at new tours, did a lot of testing, optimizing, and monetizing.

As as many have said, cutting expenses is the way go to as well. Do you really need to spend $30k on a dinner that will probably not get you the ROI expected or is it worth $10k to show appreciation to your current WMs who actually send you traffic?

Hi Kristin. Thanks. It's funny because our biggest flops have been projects where we didn't do that. Whenever we try to rush a project, or hop on board a trendy wave we screwup bad. Luckily I have really good managers that control my ADD and my constant barrage of must launch ideas

SteveLightspeed · 07-27-2009, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Shap

Hey Steve. I replied to your comments but obviously haven't heard a reply from you. I'm just curious why you felt it necessary to come to this thread and make comments that were in many ways irrelevant to what I was saying? This thread was about helping people improve their business and not in any way about being greed or screwing the surfer.

My response about greed was prompted by this statement:

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Originally Posted by Shap

The best way I could say it is: Leave as Little Money as Possible on The Table!!!

I was simply pointing out that a "slash and burn" policy might work today, but not tomorrow. Hidden prechecked xsales are a good example of "leaving as little money as possible on the table". Surfers that feel like they've been "milked for every penny" will be less likely to buy anything online again. I wasn't directing anything at you Shap. I was really just adding my 2 cents to the conversation.

Shap · 07-27-2009, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

My response about greed was prompted by this statement:

I was simply pointing out that a "slash and burn" policy might work today, but not tomorrow. Hidden prechecked xsales are a good example of "leaving as little money as possible on the table". Surfers that feel like they've been "milked for every penny" will be less likely to buy anything online again. I wasn't directing anything at you Shap. I was really just adding my 2 cents to the conversation.

We were saying the same thing

katdaddy · 07-27-2009, 08:03 AM

Damn Shap you're getting old when you start handing out wisdom 8P.... long time no see my friend glad to see you make it happen....

gideongallery · 07-28-2009, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Shap

We were saying the same thing

except your saying it from different directions
your is the positive
steves is the negative

i much prefer your

keep posting the ideas if you got them. i am taking notes.

here is one from my experience

every business is divided into five catagories
lead generation
conversion
money per order
customer life/retention
productivity (time per dollar earned)

instead of focusing on one, cycle thru them when doing improvements. Counter pressures to each optimization always happen and when you optimize one complete first you sacrifice what could be significantly greater improvement in another section.

secondly your first improvement is usually the most significant, going from nothing to something usually results in the best results, with each future improvement being only minor comparitively. cycling maximizes growth.

third these 5 catagories multiply in effectiveness, try and double your business by doubling your leads is very hard. doubling your business by increasing your leads by 15% your conversion by 15% your money per order by 15% your retention by 15% and your productivity by 15% is very easy. (1.15^5).

MrMaxwell · 07-28-2009, 07:01 PM

"THIS AIN'T GRADE SCHOOL, MOTHERFUCKERS."
Quote of the decade
~The Fred~ 2004

Barefootsies · 07-28-2009, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery

except your saying it from different directions
your is the positive
steves is the negative

i much prefer your

keep posting the ideas if you got them. i am taking notes.

here is one from my experience

every business is divided into five catagories
lead generation
conversion
money per order
customer life/retention
productivity (time per dollar earned)

instead of focusing on one, cycle thru them when doing improvements. Counter pressures to each optimization always happen and when you optimize one complete first you sacrifice what could be significantly greater improvement in another section.

secondly your first improvement is usually the most significant, going from nothing to something usually results in the best results, with each future improvement being only minor comparitively. cycling maximizes growth.

third these 5 catagories multiply in effectiveness, try and double your business by doubling your leads is very hard. doubling your business by increasing your leads by 15% your conversion by 15% your money per order by 15% your retention by 15% and your productivity by 15% is very easy. (1.15^5).

Now go put that into practice with your own brillant adult industry ideas and investment smart guy instead of trolling message boards with your 'hot tips' of wisdom.

gideongallery · 07-28-2009, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Now go put that into practice with your own brillant adult industry ideas and investment smart guy instead of trolling message boards with your 'hot tips' of wisdom.

ah i do
most of the 163 unique techniques we developed are grouped together into these cycles.
i am not as stupid as you keep claiming i am.

topnotch, standup guy · 07-28-2009, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery

every business is divided into five catagories
lead generation
conversion
money per order
customer life/retention
productivity (time per dollar earned)

instead of focusing on one, cycle thru them when doing improvements. Counter pressures to each optimization always happen and when you optimize one complete first you sacrifice what could be significantly greater improvement in another section.

secondly your first improvement is usually the most significant, going from nothing to something usually results in the best results, with each future improvement being only minor comparitively. cycling maximizes growth.

third these 5 catagories multiply in effectiveness, try and double your business by doubling your leads is very hard. doubling your business by increasing your leads by 15% your conversion by 15% your money per order by 15% your retention by 15% and your productivity by 15% is very easy. (1.15^5).

Does anybody have even the faintest idea what this clown is talking about?

I mean really?

In another post I saw him blathering on and on about branding watermarks on bugs asses or somesuch

MrMaxwell · 07-28-2009, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by topnotch, standup guy

Does anybody have even the faintest idea what this clown is talking about?

I mean really?

In another post I saw him blathering on and on about branding watermarks on bugs asses or somesuch

I don't know much about the rest of his post.. but this part sounded really fucking dead on, to me..

"try and double your business by doubling your leads is very hard. doubling your business by increasing your leads by 15% your conversion by 15% your money per order by 15% your retention by 15% and your productivity"

Imortyl Pussycat · 07-28-2009, 10:23 PM

wow Shap, another awesome thread with great advice you've started here

you're impressing the pants off me these days

D-Money · 07-28-2009, 10:27 PM

Great thread (and sig) Shap. Now I'm gonna be up all night checking all my domains.

ParlourCash Karl · 07-28-2009, 11:04 PM

Great Read, we have been increasing sales monthly by doing exactly that.

JayAllan · 07-29-2009, 12:10 AM

Shap,

I rarely get on GFY these days, and when I do it is usually to chuckle at the usual ridiculous posts and infighting between regulars. Your thread is a welcome diversion. Although I rarely do any work in adult these days I have been shooting girls since 1992. I stopped working in adult because I hated dealing with all the short sightedness of my clients and the lack of caring that was almost universal with regards to the quality of the product. That and the turn and burn approach everyone seems to have with regard to their customers.

I can see that your philosophy is different. It is refreshing to see that you are not only interested in providing a quality product, but also that you are not willing to bait and switch your customers to shave a little extra $$. I work with a lot of creative entertainment people. People who are very successful household names. I find that universally they are more interested in making something that people will love and take something away from than something that just makes money. They really care about their customers and because of that the customers keep coming back.

The adult industry will always have the "quick buck at any cost" mentality, but it is nice to see that not everyone is playing that game.

gideongallery · 07-29-2009, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by topnotch, standup guy

Does anybody have even the faintest idea what this clown is talking about?

I mean really?

In another post I saw him blathering on and on about branding watermarks on bugs asses or somesuch

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMaxwell

I don't know much about the rest of his post.. but this part sounded really fucking dead on, to me..

"try and double your business by doubling your leads is very hard. doubling your business by increasing your leads by 15% your conversion by 15% your money per order by 15% your retention by 15% and your productivity"

to many people focus on one aspect of the business when doing optimization
steves slash and burn example is a classic example of that

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

I was simply pointing out that a "slash and burn" policy might work today, but not tomorrow. Hidden prechecked xsales are a good example of "leaving as little money as possible on the table". Surfers that feel like they've been "milked for every penny" will be less likely to buy anything online again. I wasn't directing anything at you Shap. I was really just adding my 2 cents to the conversation.

by focusing exclusively on the money per customer order and ignoring retention and conversion is what causes this problem

when you rotate thru the different sections doing one small optimization and then going to the next section you avoid putting blinders on your business optimization.

duranfly · 07-29-2009, 05:36 PM

well said......Its money to be made and if all the sites shut down maybe we will still be around when things pick up and make all the money lol

07-21-2009, 09:39 AM	#101
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07-22-2009, 08:54 AM	#104
kristin GOO! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Back Home : ) Posts: 9,768	One thing I've always admired about your company Shap is you take one project at a time and do it right, to perfection. We recently put a halt on some of our newer projects to really focus on our program, sites, etc. We released the mobile, added a lot more content, looked at new tours, did a lot of testing, optimizing, and monetizing. As as many have said, cutting expenses is the way go to as well. Do you really need to spend $30k on a dinner that will probably not get you the ROI expected or is it worth $10k to show appreciation to your current WMs who actually send you traffic? __________________ Vacares rules. "Usually only fat guys have the kind of knowledge and ability that Kristin has."

07-22-2009, 09:02 AM	#106
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07-22-2009, 02:28 PM	#108
gideongallery Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 7,082	put an offer in every payment you send out print it on the cheque stub portion i have done this in my business and it really pays off not only will you get sales from your affiliates/suppliers but from their banks and accountants too. __________________ “When crimes occur through the mail, you don’t shut the post office down,” Steve Wozniak

07-22-2009, 07:13 PM	#111
gideongallery Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 7,082	bump for a thread with really good ideas __________________ “When crimes occur through the mail, you don’t shut the post office down,” Steve Wozniak

07-22-2009, 09:13 AM	#107
mb Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,550	Thanks Shap... you reminded me of a few things. Funny how after all these years you can let the little things slip. marc

07-22-2009, 03:38 PM	#109
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07-23-2009, 06:32 AM	#116
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07-23-2009, 06:35 AM	#117
mabcom Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: In my wifes hairy pussy Posts: 31	Do you or do you know of someone in the business that will look at a site(s) and make recommendations to improve them? My wife and I have been on over 15 years now as amaeturs! A lot of people love us and we are also hated because of the fetish content we include. Used to be a big producer but has fallen off. We love the business and being in it literally. Just need ideas I guess.

07-23-2009, 11:36 AM	#118
gideongallery Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 7,082	shap keep the ideas comming __________________ “When crimes occur through the mail, you don’t shut the post office down,” Steve Wozniak

07-27-2009, 07:19 AM	#119
Shap Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 8,313	Hey Steve. I replied to your comments but obviously haven't heard a reply from you. I'm just curious why you felt it necessary to come to this thread and make comments that were in many ways irrelevant to what I was saying? This thread was about helping people improve their business and not in any way about being greed or screwing the surfer.

07-27-2009, 08:03 AM	#123
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07-28-2009, 07:01 PM	#125
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07-28-2009, 10:23 PM	#130
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07-28-2009, 11:04 PM	#132
ParlourCash Karl Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hawaii Posts: 438	Great Read, we have been increasing sales monthly by doing exactly that. __________________ www.ParlourCash.com

07-29-2009, 12:10 AM	#133
JayAllan So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Santa Barbara, CA Posts: 1,148	Shap, I rarely get on GFY these days, and when I do it is usually to chuckle at the usual ridiculous posts and infighting between regulars. Your thread is a welcome diversion. Although I rarely do any work in adult these days I have been shooting girls since 1992. I stopped working in adult because I hated dealing with all the short sightedness of my clients and the lack of caring that was almost universal with regards to the quality of the product. That and the turn and burn approach everyone seems to have with regard to their customers. I can see that your philosophy is different. It is refreshing to see that you are not only interested in providing a quality product, but also that you are not willing to bait and switch your customers to shave a little extra $$. I work with a lot of creative entertainment people. People who are very successful household names. I find that universally they are more interested in making something that people will love and take something away from than something that just makes money. They really care about their customers and because of that the customers keep coming back. The adult industry will always have the "quick buck at any cost" mentality, but it is nice to see that not everyone is playing that game. Last edited by JayAllan; 07-29-2009 at 12:13 AM..

07-29-2009, 05:36 PM	#135
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