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Old 12-01-2002, 10:58 PM   #51
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Damn, funny enough MagicMan ICQ'd me in August saying that his truck was being towed THAT MORNING and he needed cash QUICK to pay the driver. Thing is though, I looked at a bunch of the pics he had, as well as some video, and immediately had some awesome ideas for what to do with it. Yeah the girls look like fucking hell but man I loved it. Funny as hell.

But... I didn't buy right then because it seemed too fishy to me. Oh well, the stuff is everywhere now so no need anymore I guess.


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at least we know he's a liar or can't park for shit
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Old 12-01-2002, 11:02 PM   #52
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I love ugly girl pictures....I swear they sell memberships better than high quality stuff...I always put something like "sick of TGP bullshit" check out some hi res stuff....

I have a blast with them, use procreate knockout and put them in a jungle scene. hehehe
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Old 12-01-2002, 11:10 PM   #53
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you bought 9000 pics for $60, and your complaining?

If you looking for supermodels, take a trip over to Matrix or Fresh Photos and see what $60 will get you. Squat.

If you can't make back your $60 off those pics, your not even close to being in the right line of work.

Stop bitching, you get what you pay for.
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Old 12-02-2002, 12:30 AM   #54
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This is me and i like how someone that BUYS the content
shows 6 or 10 pictures and they BOUGHT 9000 and they saw samples first can someone tell me how i screwed anyone??

these are my pics and i did represent what i was selling and i was not around because in the STATES its thanksgiving
bullshit...what you showed was nowhere near a decent representation of your content. your content is absolute garbage. i bought the $75 deal a couple of weeks ago and everything fucking sucked. i immediately wrote you back on icq saying i had no use for any of it (politely) and said that you could keep $20 if you refunded me, in exchange for the bandwidth consumed and the trouble i caused you, but you completely ignored me. you could have at least responded and said no. fuck you asshole!
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Old 12-02-2002, 12:34 AM   #55
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This thread is GAY.

You expect Matrix models when you buy 9000 pics for $60?

It's still a pretty good deal if only 10%, 900 pics are what you would call usable. Plus if you promote them right those ugly girls could sell better than most Matrix girls.
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Old 12-02-2002, 02:01 AM   #56
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I agree with the mentality that you paid $60 and you get what you paid for. Honestly... the girls are beat, but to make back $60 with all those photos won't be a problem. How do I know? Well... one of the girls in that package actually has a website and people are joining it daily. Sure, she may not be hot... but different people like different things. Shit, I don't like fat chicks but people do. The best thing going for that content is that it's "real amateur". Market it as that way...

Or... make a joke site saying you can't believe these girls think they're hot enough to model. Make it interactive and have people post their faults on a message board and then hit people with exit traffic to sponsors or something. Trust me... there's a million ways to make a few extra bucks in this business. Just be creative.

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Old 12-02-2002, 02:06 AM   #57
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The way this guy talks in ICQ and on the boards gives me a bad sense of deja vu...
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Old 12-02-2002, 02:13 AM   #58
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.007 cents per pic...


What do you want? Someone have some more crackers and cheese to go with his whine?
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Old 12-02-2002, 02:25 AM   #59
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they all look like $85 hr. escorts
If you think they are worth $85 you have more money than sense, so no change there.

Come to Czech, this is what you get for $85 an hour here.

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Old 12-02-2002, 02:31 AM   #60
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If you think they are worth $85 you have more money than sense, so no change there.

Come to Czech, this is what you get for $85 an hour here.

Can I sleep on your couch?

$85 an hour for her - yum!
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Old 12-02-2002, 02:40 AM   #61
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this is fucking rediculous..

$60 for 9000 pictures. they better be as shitty as they come for that price. it reminds me of those spammer CD's of 120 million email addresses for $150. you didnt get scammed, burned or ripped off, you got exactly what you paid for, cheap, pure shit. deal with it.
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Old 12-02-2002, 02:46 AM   #62
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I guess if it were me that ended up with that content I would use it to push an amateur site
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Old 12-02-2002, 03:23 AM   #63
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That shit is a bargain man, you should be ashamed for complaining.
You've got tons of niches in those sets!

Crack ho's
Heroin addicts
Biker bitches
Sister-in-law's
Mother-in-law's
Friends' mom
Truckstop Waitress

Its all about the STORY man, not the content. You can sell anything with the right words.
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Old 12-02-2002, 03:30 AM   #64
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This thread is GAY.

You expect Matrix models when you buy 9000 pics for $60?

It's still a pretty good deal if only 10%, 900 pics are what you would call usable. Plus if you promote them right those ugly girls could sell better than most Matrix girls.
Exactly

This content is right if you build the right site for it. Not everyone?s fantasy is to fuck a supermodel. There are loads of guys out there that want to view ordinary girls who they can associate with.

Also remember, if you are buying content that any clown with a camera and an average looking naked girl can produce then you will be up against a lot of competition.

The thing is the girls have to look as if they are enjoying posing and the pictures have to be the right size and resolution. This is the problem that most of the amateur shooters on the net seem to miss. Our "Amateur" section is very popular and the sets sell very well.

But ?you get what you pay for? is sometimes ignored on the net. You pay $60 then do not expect sets that are worth $600, if they were the seller would not be selling them for that.

Also remember, if you are buying content that any clown with a camera and an average looking naked girl can produce then you will be up against a lot of competition.
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Right.. not to mention, if you are buying content that any clown with a camera and an average looking naked girl can produce then you will be up against a lot of competition.
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Old 12-02-2002, 04:51 AM   #66
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you people do realize that alien007 and Lovematch are the same person don't you?
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Old 12-02-2002, 04:54 AM   #67
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you people do realize that alien007 and Lovematch are the same person don't you?
I was wondering if this was the same person. The way he talked on ICQ and on the boards was frighteningly familliar.

I'd hold off any flames or such until I see proof though. Any mod wanna run an IP check? What was the paypal addy you used to pay this guy? What email addresses did he give?
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Old 12-02-2002, 04:59 AM   #68
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same website, same family probs, same shit content, same icq............................
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Old 12-02-2002, 05:03 AM   #69
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dude i'm having nightmares about those nasty bitches!

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Old 12-02-2002, 05:05 AM   #70
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you people do realize that alien007 and Lovematch are the same person don't you?
This guy is becoming a real problem. Just be beware and stop looking only at the price and steer clear of anyone ho suddenly turns up with tons of content and no track record.

Anyway on another subject, I'm looking for offers on a property I want to sell only $2,000. It's very well located at the end of The Mall and has it's own security gate and guards. Any takers???
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Old 12-02-2002, 05:07 AM   #71
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i am not lovematch in any way shape fashion or form
i am not associated with him either this is very easy to check out so before ANYONE starts ANY rumors i just thought i would let it be known
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Old 12-02-2002, 05:30 AM   #72
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Well alien007 is also MagicMan on Tuna Fish Bitch. Which btw, I'd get my ass over there now if I were you alien007 so you can deal with the rest of the folks who want your head on a platter.

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Just be beware and stop looking only at the price and steer clear of anyone ho suddenly turns up with tons of content and no track record.
The price isn't the problem, neither is the content. I agree with what many have said, that you can make money off of that and folks did get their monies worth.

I'd be worried as shit about the papers.

Forget about the license by itself, after all this crap I would want to see a few model IDs and signed releases to backup and prove the legitimacy of the license agreement and that the images are indeed 2257 worthy. I'd also want to see that whatever address is down there as custodian of records actually exists.

Now if those criteria were met, and if this guy delivers what he promises, then, as someone said, stop whining they're not Matrix models for the price. Afterall if you shot it yourself, I'd like to see someone actually get two (even ugly) models doing amateur hardcore on film for a combined $60-$75.
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Old 12-02-2002, 06:27 AM   #73
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Old 12-02-2002, 06:36 AM   #74
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If you can't get a couple signups off 9000 pics you have to be a total dumb ass marketer and should pack it in now. It doesn't matter what they look like. There are millions of guys who like that plain jane look shot in an amateur mode.

And like the other posters said if you want pro high end supermodel content go and pay a $1 a pic at Matrix.

What's great about this business is there are lots of choices out there when it comes to buying content.
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I bought that content and was quite pleased with it for the price. I got about 5 Hun listings with it and made like 3 or 4 amateur and mature sites. The blonde giving head in the pics posted eearlier in this thread is about 40-45 yearsd old, perfect mature model.
When you buy cheap content you can't expect the world. It's great for tgp and free sites though. The small pics were a problem and unusable, but the rest was great. Surfers love plain girl content.
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Woke up saw what this thread was about, was like daymn! This really sucks to be him, but it really doesn?t suck. First I met him 5 months or so ago. He came to me with some problems as well, after buying all that content from him, 9000 pics we started to become friends. I got him to help me build some galleries he did a great job, He had some great ideas on some rev share that I was indeed interested in. After busting ass trying to get it going he fell of the face of the earth for a while. Np. I said to myself ?I will just drop it and find someone else to hire to help with galleries?, finally we talked again he tells me all these stories why he wasn?t around, etc. He did in fact tell me his truck was broken down and basically what he has told allot of you folks, I did not how ever know about his dad dieing. I haven?t talked to him in a while!

As for the content being for real um........... I had a good friend that asked me about him and I gave good references Then this good friend im's me PISSED says she downloaded like 60% of the content he sells for free I was like WTF! She gives me the URL http://www.buy-film-ready.com/ and I went to the site. I was like HOLY SHIT HE FUCKED ME! He is now fucking my friends. So I wrote to the owners of buy film and said I think someone is selling your content and I think it?s stolen! I NEVER gave any names just the URL! So I then looked up his host I wrote them to see what they would do NEVER EVER gave neither any names nor his URL. They wrote back to me and said they would delete his account if found what I was saying a fact. Well that was Travis from simplecom.net well a few hours went buy and the owners of buy-film e-mailed me and was very concerned, and thought he was selling stolen content I WAS PISSED so I wrote back with all his info! His real phone number, his address, and I was going for blood I was going to fuck him in the goats ass.

They write back 30 min?s later stating that Tom Davis aka magic man, aka alien007, was one of there re-sellers, and that he was allowed to sell the content as he found fit! But he had to send all the info to them on who he sold the content too. They said they haven?t seen any info on who he has sold it to for the last several months.

So I wrote back a thank you letter and then I wrote Travis back, Well Travis writes back with a NP, and then another email asking if I needed a dedicated box! 9 out of 10 times I would have deleted that shit, but since I mailed him first, I listened to what he had to say. I got the server with some great deals on it Travis has bent over back words in helping me get everything running smooth! I got a server with a min of 1mps no types of caps, and so far NO down time, and always fast ( THANKS TRAVIS )

Now back to alein007 ?I in my heart?, and Tom ya can get mad or what ever bro! Far as I am concerned we are still friends and I do respect ya, but man ya got problems dude. I in my heart think you have some killer drug problems! I?ve been around drugs and the streets for along time HELL I even had a problem CLEAN NOW I was a paramedic on the streets for 10 years, and man I know what problems are! Hell most of my adult business for the last year and a half has had TONS OF PROBLEMS! I came here to get help and I got help from tons of great people. I don?t know 100% that you have a drug problem but from our phone talks, e-mails ICQ?s etc. it makes me wonder! Dude every time you need money you go around begging and something always happens like truck, broken, girlfriend etc... And when I westeren union ya some money of yours, the sound in your voice made me think you were jonesing! I COULD BE totally wrong! I know you?re a decent guy but, I really think you have some problems. Just my two cents man, and I am here if ya wanna talk about anything!


NOW on my bitch about the FUCKED UP whining that has been going on! FOR Christ sakes get over it, 9000 pictures and movies for only $60.00! Hell I paid him $250.00 for all them pic's a few months ago but, ?I AINT PISSED? yes there was a lot of trash in them but the trashy ones DID sell! Matter of fact, ALL HIS shit sold very well for me, so well I made triple the money back within the first month of getting that content. If you are looking for cheap content, but content like fantasy or hell even the whining Charley?s content, YOU won?t find any of their content at $60.00 in bulk YOU GET WHAT YA PAID FOR! If you want Charley?s type of content or fantasy?s then save YOUR damn money, and when you make enough go BUY their content and stop wasting your money on cheap content.


Argh@#$ I don't understand some adults lately they want everything handed to them on a silver platter or, they want the best at rock bottom prices! Wtf? Then when they buy content at ROCK bottom prices they go out and whine, bitch, complain, start shit they shouldn?t start! I?m not talking about you DIldozer I?m talking about allot of other threads

Last advice if you want pretty girlie content stay the hell away from REAL amateur content I don?t care what anyone else thinks knows etc... Worse the fucking pic looks the more sales I have made! That is me though.


Good luck Tom and sorry to hear about ya dad mate

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This is me and i like how someone that BUYS the content
shows 6 or 10 pictures and they BOUGHT 9000 and they saw samples first can someone tell me how i screwed anyone??

these are my pics and i did represent what i was selling and i was not around because in the STATES its thanksgiving
ok you lying piece of shit, It's not thanksgiving anymore.
You're a fucking thief. nothing more. You've ripped off two guys who everyone knows to be honest:
http://www.tunafishbitch.com/forum/s...pagenumb er=1

You fucking scam guys who can buy from anyone but buy from you to help you out. Nice going asshole.
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ok you lying piece of shit, It's not thanksgiving anymore.
You're a fucking thief. nothing more. You've ripped off two guys who everyone knows to be honest:
http://www.tunafishbitch.com/forum/s...pagenumb er=1

You fucking scam guys who can buy from anyone but buy from you to help you out. Nice going asshole.
holy fuck didnt know about http://www.tunafishbitch.com thanks 12clicks damn I dont have enough hours in the day to work and look at all the message boards argh#$% Tom man fuck it I have nothing to say ( shakes his head )
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u pay cheap and get cheap shit, SUPRISE, magicman as not ripped anyone off.
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u pay cheap and get cheap shit, SUPRISE, magicman as not ripped anyone off.
look on tuna man look on tunna Sad sad sad
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How can you expect to get anything but crap or alteast very low quality images at $200 for 9000 images??

Sounds like a fair deal to me.
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He offered the same deal to me for 100 bucks.
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Ok, I posted the same on Tuna...
I guess im just another looser that got jammer by this guy.
He was supposed to build galleries and get me the content.
The content I got.
The galleries never came.
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Johnny 11/18/20 10:37 PM Yo, No news on the TGP templates...
Whats going on?


MagicMan 11/19/20 9:59 AM hi dude i just sent you an e-mail my father
is REALLY bad off he went in the hospital
friday nite so i have been in and out are you
really upset??

Johnny 11/19/20 10:10 AM AH...thanks. Listen. Sorry about that.
It just that I had no news from you.
Sorry again... ;)


Johnny 11/19/20 10:11 AM Hopefully hes gonna be allright.
WHen do you gfigure your gonna have the work
done?

MagicMan 11/19/20 10:11 AM OH no guy its my fault ;O((
i should have let you know in fact i made
myself a note to contact you and i did'nt

Johnny 11/19/20 10:12 AM Thats ok. Sorry about your father. I really
im.
Now im fealing like shit...

MagicMan 11/19/20 10:12 AM NO really i would be the same way i have been
screwed on the web too ;O)
No dude its all good REALLY ;o)

Johnny 11/19/20 10:13 AM Should I give you another week?

MagicMan 11/19/20 10:13 AM i am gonna do my best to have them ready by
the weekend ;O))

MagicMan 11/19/20 10:13 AM is that ok?? if not let me know we will work
something out ;O)

Johnny 11/19/20 10:13 AM Ill put up a page... With info and banner on
it.
Ill shoot you the url.
Some of my templates are gonna change!

Johnny 11/19/20 10:14 AM No, thats ok. Take your time then.
But please keep me posted by this weekend at
least.

MagicMan 11/19/20 10:14 AM cool that sounds good
i hate staying up at the hostpital and i hate
not being there too ;O((

Johnny 11/19/20 10:15 AM Ok. great. take it easy.
Ill shoot you the url later in this week.



MagicMan 11/19/20 10:15 AM again i am really sorry

MagicMan 11/19/20 10:15 AM ok have a good one ;OI)

Johnny 11/23/20 10:05 AM Magic, we are gonna go as planned before.
The pics are in there now.
Just use them for the galleries.

Thanks

MagicMan 11/24/20 1:06 AM hey man my dad passed away tonite i am not
real with it
its gonna be a rough week i will do whatever i
need to so you are happy
if you hit me up and i don't get right back to
you this is why
talk soon...............sorry

Johnny 11/24/20 1:14 AM Sorry about your loss.
I really am.
Just keep me posted on when you can do the
work for me.

Johnny 11/25/20 9:51 PM Magic, I know this comming week is gonna be
pretty messed up.
Wouldnt you rather refund me the money and
take up the contract again some other time
when your more up to it?
Let me know.

Johnny 11/28/20 6:07 PM Magic, either get in touch with me by
tomorow...
or I will charge you back.

I saw your post on GFY...obviously you have
time to sell your content.... So you can
probably do my gallery work.
Liek I said, im sorry for you loss, but this
has got to end now.
Either refund my money so we can do this some
other time.
Or I will charge you back.

Johnny 11/28/20 6:35 PM Listen Tom, your galleries look excelent.
Id hate for us not to get this work done.

Again Tom, I cant stress this enough, please
show me a sign that you wanna do this work by
tonight.
Please.

Johnny 11/29/20 7:21 AM I just cant believe I never got a mail or
message from you.


MagicMan 11/30/20 1:53 AM Hello dude sorry i have not contacted you i
see you charged back EVERYTHING i did tell you
my father passed away and i should have
contacted you before now but i have been tied
up with the funeral and of course the
Thanksgiving holiday how do you want to handle
this i just got back into town let me know
And $50 of that $150 was for content correct
sorry i just do not remember
thanks
Tom




And this morning, he refunded me 50$ and the rest is supposed to be comming soon....LOL
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Old 12-02-2002, 09:49 AM   #86
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I meet AWMs who want supermodels for pennies very frequently. Those generally run TGP galleries. I do not say this to them indeed, but I fucking hate it. I mean I hate when someone comes to me, asking for a cheap deal like 2000 pics for $200 then selects only best models and then later complains that they are not converting, though I'm blody well aware they are converting like hell when positioned properly.

So I agree with those who said here "what else you can expect from the deal like 9000 pics for $80???" You paid cheap and you got cheap shit.

But from the other hand, I always give a correct representation of my content. And definitally, I don't like those sellers who give only several best samples, hiding the fact that 90% of content is a real shit. Obviously, when you sell something you have to attract the buyer's attention to best sides of your goods, but to give an incorrect information about the goods you are trying to sell - is a natural cheating.

So I also somewhat agree with the complaining people here.
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Old 12-02-2002, 11:46 AM   #87
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Hey everyone!!!

Next time that anyone wants to buy from MagicMan, just send ME the money. This guy owes me a $250 refund.

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I bought some of that shit too. Half of the pictures were sideways. I haven't bothered to try and fix them yet.

My only recourse is that with the amount of pics and a lot of movies too, I did make my money back. So can one honestly complain? I'm not out any cash with the sales I made. Although, I would rather be told I get 1000 good pics rather than 9000 pics where most are shit ass ugly sideways bitches. No more than 20% of the stuff is usable.
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Old 12-02-2002, 12:00 PM   #89
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I sent this goober $200 after he posted on here about a "GFY special" all his content for $200, i asked for him to send me a cd with the pictures because my conection is slow as fuck but a month went by no cd, i pmed him asked him what's up he said he sent it and would send agian... 2 months now and NO FUCKING CONTENT.

I wrote it off as a loss, but I'd sure like to know how the mail service lost 2 cd's?? Me thinks someone isn't fullfilling the offer and it's not me!
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So i see the plot has unraveled quite nicely while i was gone!

Ok i admit for $60 there's still some content to use if it's not already been overused. But to speak the truth, the first model i downloaded before i paid him wasn't as bad as the others and frankly i was expecting a bit more than those crackwhore hookers.
Hell yeah i'm gonna use it and make money out of it, but it's not gonna be a good experience for me. They scare the shit outta me and i'm used to seeing better looking models.

As for the gay porn and she-male content, well that wasn't part of the deal, i don't work with that shit.

And finally 12clicks nailed it right on the head when he said i could've bought from someone else but he "needed to get out of a tight spot"

So what i believe is this:
He might not be a fraud, but he's a liar and a manipulator.

So next time that guy ICQ's you saying his dad passed away and has no insurance, his truck is getting towed, his GF is getting towed, or his dog ate his homework just don't fall for it like a couple of us did.
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Old 12-02-2002, 12:15 PM   #91
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damn i think i could make a shit load of cash with those ugly hoes....
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damn i think i could make a shit load of cash with those ugly hoes....
I will but that's beside the point
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Looks like two different issues going on here.

1. Some people bought the content, and freaked at the models. lol.
2. Two people wanted CD's but didn't get them, although they did have access to download the content if they wanted to.

The guy has to beg for $60, he probably spent the money he had on food or drugs or booze or whatever. He's probably a big liar for sure, but I doubt he's a thief. The shit appears to be legit, some just wanted it gift wrapped too.

As far as paying him by paypal.. a dispute is simple. They'll give you the money back, you didn't receive the product. He'll have to provide a tracking number that shows you received it, or the charges get reversed.
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I'm sorry if i don't buy into your bullshit

Here's another prime example of your magnificient work:

I kinda like her
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Her body looks as if it aged twice as fast as her face
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Chodadog, Brad..
You both did contact paypal to reverse the charges already didn't you ?
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I kinda like her
Yeah you should see some of her other pics
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how many of the pics were not that size???? you bought 9000 pics at an AWESOME PRICE some were not perfect you knew that BEFORE you bought

Reminds me of the famous print shop poster: "You want 'em good, quick, and cheap? Pick two and call me back!"

When a deal seems too good to be true, there's a reason.
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Dammm

I'm not gonna be able to fucking wackoff the rest of the week now cuz of that shit...

thanks guys
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