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  • AllAboutCams
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    • Jul 2011
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    #1

    Nexus 6 in Aus cost A$869 32GB A$929 64GB seriously wtf

    This is crazy expensive
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  • sandman!
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    #2
    yup all new toys are
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    • AllAboutCams
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      #3
      I might as well buy an iphone
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      • last click
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        #4
        darn it, I was looking forward to have one though

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        • AdultKing
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          • Jun 2003
          • 15601

          #5
          Originally posted by AllAboutCams
          This is crazy expensive
          Cheaper at JB Hifi, especially if you take the recommended ask for a bargain or "can you do better than that because the Good Guys have them cheaper" approach.

          That said, why on earth would you even consider one of these inferior phones when for a few bucks more you'll get an iPhone ?

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          • djroof
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            • Jan 2004
            • 25508

            #6
            in few months will be "old" and cheap

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            • blinki bill
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              • Oct 2006
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              #7
              Is this the price from google play? Nexus phones are cheap but only if bought online directly from google, if you get it from anywhere else it will be as much as any other flagship phone

              Originally posted by AdultKing
              That said, why on earth would you even consider one of these inferior phones when for a few bucks more you'll get an iPhone ?
              Ignorance is a blessing... maybe he likes the android experience more, also have you checked what nexus 6 is, this thing is probably the most powerful device on the market at the moment. Besides at present iPhone is inferior to most of the android flagships, for some reason apple refuses to catch up on processing power, ram memory and multitasking...

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              • AdultKing
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                • Jun 2003
                • 15601

                #8
                Originally posted by blinki bill
                Besides at present iPhone is inferior to most of the android flagships, for some reason apple refuses to catch up on processing power, ram memory and multitasking...
                You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. When it comes to multitasking then iOS completely shits over Android. There is no comparison. iOS is basically OS X with a mobile interface. Android (even the latest releases) has appalling memory management and lots of inefficiency when it comes to multitasking.

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                • Slick
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                  • Feb 2001
                  • 7338

                  #9
                  It's all about the Droid Turbo ;) Such an amazing phone, although the battery hasn't been as super as I expected, but it's still amazing.

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                  • blinki bill
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                    • Oct 2006
                    • 123

                    #10
                    Originally posted by AdultKing
                    You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. When it comes to multitasking then iOS completely shits over Android. There is no comparison. iOS is basically OS X with a mobile interface. Android (even the latest releases) has appalling memory management and lots of inefficiency when it comes to multitasking.
                    iOS is not OS X with mobile interface...
                    iOS have been behind on multitasking for ages, simply there is no true multitasking on iPhone, this is also one of the reasons why iPhones don't need more than two cores or more ram. I don't know if they finally allowed TRUE multitasking with iPhone 6, but even if they did it's playing catch up at this point, I don't know where you get the "completely shits over Android" part.

                    "iOS does not allow true multitasking for third party apps. iOS only allows certain APIs to run in the background, such as audio streaming and push notifications. An app stops running the instant the user switches to another app. Apple gives their own apps multitasking abilities that other apps are not allowed to use, which can cause confusion on this topic."

                    Again i don't know if they finally changed this with the latest iOS, but this has been the case since ever, this is one of the reasons why iPhones run smoothly with less horsepower.

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                    • AdultKing
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                      • Jun 2003
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by blinki bill
                      iOS is not OS X with mobile interface...
                      Re-educate yourself, the base of iOS and OS X is Darwin (a flavour of BSD).

                      On top of that are the core frameworks, Core Foundation and Foundation.

                      Where they differ is the UI Toolkit is based on Cocoa Touch rather than Cocoa on OS X.

                      If you jailbreak an iOS device, add a terminal app and then run top you'll see much of the same processes running just like on any BSD distribution.

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                      • wehateporn
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                        • Apr 2007
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                        #12
                        Nexus-6 have a built-in four-year lifespan according to Wikipedia

                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexus_6

                        So, Tyrell added a "fail-safe device" to Nexus-6 models: a built-in four-year lifespan to prevent them from developing their own "emotional responses" and emergent independence. This was especially necessary for Mental-A models whose intellectual capacity at least matched those of their designers.

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                        • MaDalton
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by AdultKing
                          Re-educate yourself, the base of iOS and OS X is Darwin (a flavour of BSD).

                          On top of that are the core frameworks, Core Foundation and Foundation.

                          Where they differ is the UI Toolkit is based on Cocoa Touch rather than Cocoa on OS X.

                          If you jailbreak an iOS device, add a terminal app and then run top you'll see much of the same processes running just like on any BSD distribution.
                          Android is Linux with a mobile interface and if you see it that way, both IOS and Android base on Unix
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                          • rowan
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                            • Mar 2002
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by MaDalton
                            Android is Linux with a mobile interface and if you see it that way, both IOS and Android base on Unix
                            OSX - derived from FreeBSD
                            Android - derived from Linux

                            So it's the same 20 year old fight, just with different brand names.

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                            • johnnyloadproductions
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                              • georgeyw
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                                #16
                                We always get ripped off in Australia, prices are always multiples of the rest of the world.
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                                • MaDalton
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by rowan
                                  OSX - derived from FreeBSD
                                  Android - derived from Linux

                                  So it's the same 20 year old fight, just with different brand names.
                                  yeah, that's what I meant
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                                  • venus
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                                    • Jan 2003
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                                    #18
                                    I have the turbo also, its an awesome phone, super quick, very happy with it

                                    Originally posted by Slick
                                    It's all about the Droid Turbo ;) Such an amazing phone, although the battery hasn't been as super as I expected, but it's still amazing.
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                                    • seeandsee
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                                      #19
                                      they are making bank on phones, lol using old technology and sell it like something new, lol
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                                      • blinki bill
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                                        • Oct 2006
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                                        #20
                                        You have to draw the line somewhere, otherwise if you start tracing back you end up with handful of operating systems and it seems like they are all the same, while they are not, very similar but yer different, there is a reason to why one forks something and creates another branch, it's usually not just re-branding...

                                        Yes OS X and iOS are based on the same core but there are major differences, how resources are allocated for example, multitasking is also handled differently. You can't just say that it's the same operating system, then compare OS X to android and announce iPhone as the winner...

                                        I use iPhone for testing and developing purposes only, and my actual devices are android. Android flagships are always super powerful, latest iPhone is also always supper packed, they all excel in different fields, the user experience is also completely different, what's better than the other depends on personal needs, not just for between iPhone and android but even for which android phone do you need. There isn't just a single winner that trumps everything else... despite what apple fans believe (and samsung fans nowadays too!)
                                        You can't go with personal favorites, you have to be more objective (Apple fans were always declaring PowerPC as superior to all pc processors, right until the moment apple switched to intel, anyone remember that?)

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                                        • crockett
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                                          • May 2003
                                          • 76818

                                          #21
                                          I remember buying my Nexus 4 for $300 bucks.. That was awesome and the reason I bought it. Was a well featured phone for a reasonable price. Two models later they have doubled in price and now the pricing is on par with the top brand models.


                                          I just can't see paying 600 or 700 for a phone that will be outdated in a year or two. I'm just too hard on phones to spend that much money on something I'll be lucky to have for 2 years before I manage to break it.. LoL
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                                          • phypon
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                                            • Oct 2003
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by blinki bill
                                            iOS is not OS X with mobile interface...
                                            iOS have been behind on multitasking for ages, simply there is no true multitasking on iPhone, this is also one of the reasons why iPhones don't need more than two cores or more ram. I don't know if they finally allowed TRUE multitasking with iPhone 6, but even if they did it's playing catch up at this point, I don't know where you get the "completely shits over Android" part.

                                            "iOS does not allow true multitasking for third party apps. iOS only allows certain APIs to run in the background, such as audio streaming and push notifications. An app stops running the instant the user switches to another app. Apple gives their own apps multitasking abilities that other apps are not allowed to use, which can cause confusion on this topic."

                                            Again i don't know if they finally changed this with the latest iOS, but this has been the case since ever, this is one of the reasons why iPhones run smoothly with less horsepower.
                                            This guy knows exactly what he's talking about. I can't develop my app on iOS because of it's multitasking limitations. For certain apps, iOS handcuffs developers. In my opinion, it's an inferior OS model based on older, slow hardware. I believe the main reason for the iOS structure is to preserve resources, specifically battery consumption and it's spun as a security "feature".

                                            Bill, have you tried swift for development on iOS?

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                                            • candyflip
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by AdultKing
                                              You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. When it comes to multitasking then iOS completely shits over Android. There is no comparison. iOS is basically OS X with a mobile interface. Android (even the latest releases) has appalling memory management and lots of inefficiency when it comes to multitasking.
                                              Uh...multitasking on iOS is shit compared to Android. You are talking out your ass, which has become quite commonplace for you.

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                                              • rizqiv2
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                                                #24
                                                so expensive, wtf

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                                                • dyna mo
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                                                  • Dec 2008
                                                  • 68184

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by AdultKing
                                                  You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. When it comes to multitasking then iOS completely shits over Android. There is no comparison. iOS is basically OS X with a mobile interface. Android (even the latest releases) has appalling memory management and lots of inefficiency when it comes to multitasking.


                                                  YOU obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

                                                  here, educate yourself:

                                                  http://www.extremetech.com/computing...roid-and-ios/2

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                                                  • AdultKing
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by dyna mo

                                                    YOU obviously have no idea what you are talking about.
                                                    I have written complex apps for both platforms, unless my programming skills suck (which they don't) I can tell you that iOS provides better outcomes for programmers, the product and the users that use the product.

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                                                    • dyna mo
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                                                      • Dec 2008
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by AdultKing
                                                      I have written complex apps for both platforms, unless my programming skills suck (which they don't) I can tell you that iOS provides better outcomes for programmers, the product and the users that use the product.
                                                      the article I cited specifically states that android allows for programmers to handle tasking while ios does not allow that whatsoever.

                                                      I appreciate both platforms and don't pick sides, android really does handle multitasking well.

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                                                      • blinki bill
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                                                        • Oct 2006
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by phypon
                                                        Bill, have you tried swift for development on iOS?
                                                        not yet, I haven't been developing anything for iPhone in a while now

                                                        Originally posted by AdultKing
                                                        I have written complex apps for both platforms, unless my programming skills suck (which they don't) I can tell you that iOS provides better outcomes for programmers, the product and the users that use the product.
                                                        You obviously go to apple church, so reason is out the window on this subject...

                                                        Originally posted by crockett
                                                        I remember buying my Nexus 4 for $300 bucks.. That was awesome and the reason I bought it. Was a well featured phone for a reasonable price. Two models later they have doubled in price and now the pricing is on par with the top brand models.
                                                        It's still very nicely priced in UK and US, wonder why they bloated the price like that in Australia

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                                                        • AdultKing
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by blinki bill
                                                          You obviously go to apple church, so reason is out the window on this subject...
                                                          Not really, I am currently working in my very limited spare time on a Raspberry Pi based Android App using transporter and additional hardware to take various video conference streams and display them in a matrix on a display while taking camera input via USB on the Pi.

                                                          Android is up to this job and so far the project works well, there's nothing Apple in this project.

                                                          The point I am trying to make, probably made badly, is that the frameworks made available for iOS are superior to Android when it comes to multitasking, thus it's easier for developers, results in more reliable applications which is in turn good for the end user.

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                                                          • crockett
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                                                            • May 2003
                                                            • 76818

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by blinki bill
                                                            not yet, I haven't been developing anything for iPhone in a while now



                                                            You obviously go to apple church, so reason is out the window on this subject...



                                                            It's still very nicely priced in UK and US, wonder why they bloated the price like that in Australia
                                                            I'd suspect it's something to do with the Australian govt because it's the same with things like Photoshop. I remember reading an article about the price of PS in Australia and they said it was cheaper to get a plane ticket to the US buy PS here than to just buy it outright in Aus.
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                                                            • rowan
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                                                              • Mar 2002
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by crockett
                                                              I'd suspect it's something to do with the Australian govt because it's the same with things like Photoshop. I remember reading an article about the price of PS in Australia and they said it was cheaper to get a plane ticket to the US buy PS here than to just buy it outright in Aus.
                                                              PS CS2 (just Photoshop itself, not the whole creative suite) cost me just over $AUD900 around 9 or 10 years ago, which at the time would have been about $USD600-$USD750. Probably not quite enough to be able to afford a ticket to the USA plus pay for the software - maybe Asia somewhere?

                                                              Cost of living is higher in Australia, therefore they can charge more. I remember there being a big fuss last year about Adobe charging differential pricing for a *digital* product, one that costs exactly the same to deliver to the customer anywhere in the world. That's capitalism for you.

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