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Old 06-07-2009, 08:25 AM   #51
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50 clueless webmasters.
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Old 06-07-2009, 08:27 AM   #52
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If you suddenly make less sales because of a bunch of big tubes then you're an idiot.
Have you ever heard of SEOs and how they index over time?

Enter in a few porn keywords in Google... enjoy the free stolen porn
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Old 06-07-2009, 08:30 AM   #53
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Funny, my sales haven't dropped whatsoever since big tubes are on the #1 spot. You must be doing something wrong. Stop blaming tubes, blame yourself.
How many new daily sales/joins are you doing your comparison on?

10?
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1000?
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Old 06-07-2009, 08:31 AM   #54
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So they got better SEO skills. Well, then like i said, you're an idiot. You act as if they aren't allowed to get top results or something.
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Old 06-07-2009, 08:32 AM   #55
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How many new daily sales/joins are you doing your comparison on?

10?
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1 billlliiiion million!
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Old 06-07-2009, 08:33 AM   #56
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1 billlliiiion million!
Ah well - I thought you actual had something worthwhile to say...
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Old 06-07-2009, 08:36 AM   #57
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Ah well - I thought you actual had something worthwhile to say...
You mean like how tubes aren't affecting my sales while you are crying the industry is dead because of tubes so that clearly means you're doing something wrong?

Something like that?
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Old 06-07-2009, 08:37 AM   #58
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You're just like all the other people who can't make money anymore. You're trying to blame it on something while there is one person to blame. And that is you.
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You mean like how tubes aren't affecting my sales while you are crying the industry is dead because of tubes so that clearly means you're doing something wrong?

Something like that?
Your logic is off... just because you are not noticing/effected by something, then it doesn´t mean it doesn´t go on - it might be that you have not been hit yet.

Have you ever heard about the Trickle-down effect? Maybe you have just adpoted the numbers, which others perceive as failing. Ex. ask a webmaster anno 1998 about conversions, and ask a webmaster anno 2009 about conversions - you will get 2 different answers what a good conversion rate is.

or in other words...

You might just already be at the bottom of the industry, which is why you don´t notice the industry is falling
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Old 06-07-2009, 08:53 AM   #60
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You might just already be at the bottom of the industry, which is why you don´t notice the industry is falling
I'm making money while you have problems making money and blame the tubes. You = fail.

I understand you are angry that you are a failure but once again stop attacking others because of it.

It's not my fault you are a failure neither is it the tubes'. It's your own fault.
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Your logic is off... just because you are not noticing/effected by something, then it doesn´t mean it doesn´t go on - it might be that you have not been hit yet.

Have you ever heard about the en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trickle-down_effect"]Trickle-down effect? Maybe you have just adpoted the numbers, which others perceive as failing. Ex. ask a webmaster anno 1998 about conversions, and ask a webmaster anno 2009 about conversions - you will get 2 different answers what a good conversion rate is.

or in other words...

You might just already be at the bottom of the industry, which is why you don´t notice the industry is falling
I'll help with the conversion discussion!

Good conversions by year:

1999 - 1:5
2000 - 1:8
2001 - 1:15
2002 - 1:50
2003 - 1:80
2004 - 1:150
2005 - 1:200
2006 - 1:260
2007 - 1:300
2008 - 1:400
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Old 06-07-2009, 08:58 AM   #62
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I'm making money while you have problems making money and blame the tubes. You = fail.

I understand you are angry that you are a failure but once again stop attacking others because of it.

It's not my fault you are a failure neither is it the tubes'. It's your own fault.
Rational people know exactly how dumb your logic is. You take one point and warp the meaning with other ignorant statements in an attempt to give your first argument merit.

It doesn't work against anyone but fools.
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Old 06-07-2009, 09:03 AM   #63
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Rational people know exactly how dumb your logic is. You take one point and warp the meaning with other ignorant statements in an attempt to give your first argument merit.

It doesn't work against anyone but fools.
Please don't be angry that i'm doing better than you. I'm not doing it to fuck with you or anything. I'm just a bit smarter i guess.
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Old 06-07-2009, 09:18 AM   #64
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Please don't be angry that i'm doing better than you. I'm not doing it to fuck with you or anything. I'm just a bit smarter i guess.
For starters, it's highly unlikely that you are doing better than me.

Also, I think you are a 100% troll. Of course, there are many people that are as exactly as dumb as you come off but I'll just assume you are trolling and move on with life. If not then .
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Old 06-07-2009, 09:21 AM   #65
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For starters, it's highly unlikely that you are doing better than me.

Also, I think you are a 100% troll. Of course, there are many people that are as exactly as dumb as you come off but I'll just assume you are trolling and move on with life. If not then .
You're so upset man that a troll is doing better than you. Just calm down.
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Our industry has died because right down is a bad time for everyone. People are loosing their jobs, their houses, and their cars..... They can't afford $20 for porn.
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For starters, it's highly unlikely that you are doing better than me.

Also, I think you are a 100% troll. Of course, there are many people that are as exactly as dumb as you come off but I'll just assume you are trolling and move on with life. If not then .
With all due respect .. you registered a few days ago for the first time here. You are nobody.
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You're so upset man that a troll is doing better than you. Just calm down.
I'm never upset, just hate the stupid.
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With all due respect .. you registered a few days ago for the first time here. You are nobody.
With all due respect, you don't know shit. GFY is not life.
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Our industry has died because right down is a bad time for everyone.
This is simply nonsense. Total fucking nonsense.

There are many people doing tons of sales. Some people are hit hard, sure, but that's because they had an old school product that worked for years and simply stopped working. So they went from everything to nothing but on the other side there are many many people with other products and ideas who are doing better than ever. Just because you aren't getting your piece of the pie anymore doesn't mean there is no pie at all. The whole pie is still there and as far as i'm concerned it's bigger than ever. You're just not part of it anymore. Please stop saying the industry is dead. It's far from dead. Very fucking far.
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I'm never upset, just hate the stupid.
Yet you are crying how tubes kill your sales and i'm doing better than ever. Yeah, that makes me so stupid
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This is simply nonsense. Total fucking nonsense.

There are many people doing tons of sales. Some people are hit hard, sure, but that's because they had an old school product that worked for years and simply stopped working. So they went from everything to nothing but on the other side there are many many people with other products and ideas who are doing better than ever. Just because you aren't getting your piece of the pie anymore doesn't mean there is no pie at all. The whole pie is still there and as far as i'm concerned it's bigger than ever. You're just not part of it anymore. Please stop saying the industry is dead. It's far from dead. Very fucking far.
Now I'm just leaning towards you being a complete idiot. And to think, you could have stopped when you were an assumed troll.
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Yet you are crying how tubes kill your sales and i'm doing better than ever. Yeah, that makes me so stupid
Funny, I haven't cried about tube sites once. Doesn't change the fact that you're either a moron or have one hell of a disguise.
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Now I'm just leaning towards you being a complete idiot. And to think, you could have stopped when you were an assumed troll.
Why don't you go cry some more about the tubes killing the industry while this idiot makes some more money
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Funny how broke morons who can't make money anymore call people who are doing better than ever idiots. The fucking irony.
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Funny, I haven't cried about tube sites once. Doesn't change the fact that you're either a moron or have one hell of a disguise.
What's it like to be all upset and angry because you're not part of that pie anymore?

Does it make you sad and jealous as well? I bet.

So now you reached the point where everyone who is part of it and making money you will call them idiots and stupid?

Poor guy.

What's your epass? I'll send you some money. I kinda feel bad for you.
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What's it like to be all upset and angry because you're not part of that pie anymore?

Does it make you sad and jealous as well? I bet.

So now you reached the point where everyone who is part of it and making money you will call them idiots and stupid?

Poor guy.

What's your epass? I'll send you some money. I kinda feel bad for you.
Guess I was wrong, 100% troll.

Oh well, it was fun thinking you were just a moron but now I have to know you as a moron that assumes he is funny.
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Funny, I haven't cried about tube sites once. Doesn't change the fact that you're either a moron or have one hell of a disguise.
Son, you have been around for all of a few days .... though you sure are packing a lot of crying into this thread.

Either you are someone else without the balls to post under their main nick, or just another temporary troll. Actually enough of that ... ignore ... move on.
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Guess I was wrong, 100% troll.

Oh well, it was fun thinking you were just a moron but now I have to know you as a moron that assumes he is funny.
Must be a sad for you if even trolls are doing better than you

Oh my...

I really do feel sorry for you
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Son, you have been around for all of a few days .... though you sure are packing a lot of crying into this thread.

Either you are someone else without the balls to post under their main nick, or just another temporary troll. Actually enough of that ... ignore ... move on.
What a crazy ass way to look at things. I have been around GFY for all of a few days, my gosh... I must have just plugged the internet in and decided to go get rich with porn! Everyone knows that every webmaster on earth had reason to post here. Whatever would they do without having 100 people as smart as you help them along the way?

Do you have any idea how hard it is for me to comprehend the mentally challenged shit that comes from your mentally challenged brain? It puts me at war with my rational thought processes.

PS, I haven't cried once. I called a couple of people stupid but that's just pointing out facts sir.
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Son, you have been around for all of a few days .... though you sure are packing a lot of crying into this thread.
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PS, I haven't cried once. I called a couple of people stupid but that's just pointing out facts sir.
Yeah, because they are doing better than you. Maybe it's you who has some mental issues Fucking imbecile

"You must be stupid or a troll if you're doing better than me"

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What a crazy ass way to look at things. I have been around GFY for all of a few days, my gosh... I must have just plugged the internet in and decided to go get rich with porn! Everyone knows that every webmaster on earth had reason to post here. Whatever would they do without having 100 people as smart as you help them along the way?

Do you have any idea how hard it is for me to comprehend the mentally challenged shit that comes from your mentally challenged brain? It puts me at war with my rational thought processes.

PS, I haven't cried once. I called a couple of people stupid but that's just pointing out facts sir.


Mommy mommy, the trolls and the stupid are making more money than me while i'm suffering here because the industry is dead. Bweeeehhhhhhh
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Yeah, because they are doing better than you. Maybe it's you who has some mental issues Fucking imbecile

"You must be stupid or a troll if you're doing better than me"

Damn dude, calm down. Over 50% of the population are functionally retarded, you are not alone. Stop lashing out and find someone stupid to pat you on the back (see Sausage). Hell, they might even find your trolling as funny as you think it is.
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Damn dude, calm down. Over 50% of the population are functionally retarded, you are not alone. Stop lashing out and find someone stupid to pat you on the back (see Sausage). Hell, they might even find your trolling as funny as you think it is.
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HILARIOUS PICTURE!


Ahahahhahahaha you are killing me! This is the funniest response I've ever seen. You really showed me, cause I'm crying over tubes and need a tissue! Get it everyone? Get it?!

Next you should post a picture of a little baby crying and I'll post a picture of a troll dancing and all of the people with an IQ under 100 can laugh and think you are a genius for a day. It will be like the best thread ever and people will want to be your friend and you'll become popular and be the most liked person on the entire forum, all because you planted a straw man and tried to knock it over. It doesn't matter if your argument didn't even make sense because so many people are stupid they'll just believe you!

Amazing post is all I wanted to say. Simply amazing!
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Ahahahhahahaha you are killing me! This is the funniest response I've ever seen. You really showed me, cause I'm crying over tubes and need a tissue! Get it everyone? Get it?!

Next you should post a picture of a little baby crying and I'll post a picture of a troll dancing and all of the people with an IQ under 100 can laugh and think you are a genius for a day. It will be like the best thread ever and people will want to be your friend and you'll become popular and be the most liked person on the entire forum, all because you planted a straw man and tried to knock it over. It doesn't matter if your argument didn't even make sense because so many people are stupid they'll just believe you!

Amazing post is all I wanted to say. Simply amazing!
Mheeeewwww mooommmmmyyyyy mommmyyyyy
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Are you talking about broke college students who have bookmarked every tube site on this planet, and can´t get credit cards due to the economy?

Please elaborate about this holy grail of distribution network
that exactly the attitude i am talking about.
you only see a problem, and not the solution that is right in front of your face.

i am talking about both bit torrent and tube

something as simple as doing watermarks right would increase type in 337%
the very first test we did generated 22% increase in type in.

If you triple your traffic results from type ins who gives a fuck if the ratio is 2x as bad as it was last year.


use branding bugs properly and that 2x ratio creep disappears and you go back to your original ratios.

Both those two together and you are making WAY MORE MONEY.
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that exactly the attitude i am talking about.
you only see a problem, and not the solution that is right in front of your face.

i am talking about both bit torrent and tube

something as simple as doing watermarks right would increase type in 337%
the very first test we did generated 22% increase in type in.

If you triple your traffic results from type ins who gives a fuck if the ratio is 2x as bad as it was last year.


use branding bugs properly and that 2x ratio creep disappears and you go back to your original ratios.

Both those two together and you are making WAY MORE MONEY.
Yes, affiliates just love when you steal their traffic with giant watermarks.
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Yes, affiliates just love when you steal their traffic with giant watermarks.
Damn, you cry a lot

You're pissed off at everyone because you can't make money anymore
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Damn, you cry a lot

You're pissed off at everyone because you can't make money anymore
They invented this for people like you.

google.com/patents?vid=USPAT4608967
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They invented this for people like you.

google.com/patents?vid=USPAT4608967
With people like me you mean stupid trolls who do better than you in this business?

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Old 06-07-2009, 10:26 AM   #94
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Old 06-07-2009, 10:43 AM   #95
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Yes, affiliates just love when you steal their traffic with giant watermarks.
it a tube site and a torrent traffic that we are talking about.
they are promoting dating traffic with your videos, so your not stealing anything.

Besides the changes i am talking about are really quite small, i doubt an affiliate could tell the difference.
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the big guys will get bigger and the little guys will be out of business
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Old 06-07-2009, 10:52 AM   #97
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it a tube site and a torrent traffic that we are talking about.
they are promoting dating traffic with your videos, so your not stealing anything.

Besides the changes i am talking about are really quite small, i doubt an affiliate could tell the difference.
In order to put the proper watermark on videos that tube sites use you would have to properly watermark everything. The amount of sales affiliates miss because their promo has watermarks is amazingly high. In fact, I'd say many would quit promoting sponsors if they knew how many thousands they've lost over it.
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In order to put the proper watermark on videos that tube sites use you would have to properly watermark everything. The amount of sales affiliates miss because their promo has watermarks is amazingly high. In fact, I'd say many would quit promoting sponsors if they knew how many thousands they've lost over it.
sure you have to watermark everything, but two things you are ignoring
1. you don't have to use the same watermark for everything (affiliate content could be watermarked differently)
2. Done correctly (branding bugs) you increase retentions (i haven't been able to test this because i don't own a pay site, but since conversions increased because of a proper selling message using branding bugs, common sense says this message will convince people to keep renewing too), which balances out the loses from watermarks
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Old 06-07-2009, 12:46 PM   #100
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Actually, you have that wrong. Unless you are only referring to the affiliate game.

Smaller companies, especially niche, can adapt more easily to change. Also do not have a huge overhead in staff, content, 100 sites, and so forth to keep up with. Smaller companies will survive, and the monoliths will either merge (i.e. get bigger), or go out of business.

However, for those who merge and do not invest in new technology or consumer tailored content will fail as well. They may pull out another few years, but no reinvestment, and they will be gone as well.

The days of buying a company just for their porn library so you can re-run it on your sites (assuming people have not seen it) is over. You need to invest in consumer driven content, and provide it to them in a delivery system they prefer at a cost they are willing to pay.

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