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#51 |
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I didn't read their terms but if they only have the no renting... no selling stuff in their terms he can use it to submit galleries of other people.
If they have something like this in their terms it's a different story... "You may not make access to [...] available to others in connection with a service bureau, application service provider, or similar business, or use [...] in a business to provide services to others."
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Guys - i specifically said.
Email Darksoft, ask them What so hard about that? Let them decide. If he wanted to be legit and play legal he would. Its obvious he doesnt want to play legal. Nothing to do with me.
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It's not drive-by spam, I am still going to post at these boards...
All I said was that I am done arguing with you people, which I could see why that made you think this was spam... in order to be done arguing with you people I would have to leave completely. Posting an offer, then leaving, yeah, that's spam to you. But nah, I am still going to be around, just not in the mood to argue with you folks. |
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That's how I read the license.
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Offering advice. Sorry you see it the other way. All I said was email them, see what they say. Wheres the harm in that? But you wont do that.
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Don't make it sound like I am here to scam folks by implying that I am as illegal as possible. That is not my goal at all. |
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Email Darksoft, let them know about this thread, post the response and play it by the book. Simple really.
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then we wait. So how long ya been in the biz bruh? ![]()
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A lot of people submit galleries for other people, and they have never had a problem. It's there to speed things up, I bought it to do exactly that. |
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I'm going to have to dissagree there for reasons I've already stated. Quote:
So why even mention G.A.S.S in the first place? Why not leave it as "hand submitting"? Did you use someone else's trademark to add clout to your pitch? Quote:
No doubt. Every submission service I've ever encountered however either does it by hand (i.e. with no additional help from automation) or by using custom desktop Win32 apps or scripts written by themselves. Quote:
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It is still MY SUBMISSIONS.
It just happens to be that the gallery I SUBMIT was created by someone else, who has decided that he/she would rather have me do the work than him/her. No, I didn't mention it to add pitch, I mentioned it incase someone wanted to know how I planned on submitting. The less detail I use the more questions I will get, so I figured to throw it all out there. |
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Okay if it's your submission then let me ask you this. Do you get the money from the sales generated from that submission? If it's yours, then surely you do? Quote:
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No, I don't get money from the individual sales,
You keep the sales, but you pay me X amout of money for generating the sales. When you work at a regular job, do you get all profits you generated for that period? No, you get your $X/hour paycheck. Again, I am not advertising that I use GASS and if you don't want to buy it, email me and I'll use it for you. I am advertising that I can submit your stuff. Forget about how I do it. I have emailed darksoft and will find out from them. Go grab another beer and mellow out, my friend. |
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So if they're your submissions, why aren't you getting any of the sales? Doesn't that strike you as odd? Your arguement is that you're simply using the software as it was intended to be used (i.e. on your machine submitting your own galleries). If the galleries do not reside on domains you own, with designs you either made yourself or commissioned yourself and containing pictures that you do not hold a license to use, how can they be your submissions? Quote:
So now you're charging people to generate sales and traffic using a bought program that the recipient of the sales never has to have a license for, nor has to ever even touch? If you were generating sales for me, say, by sending your own traffic with your own refcode and then giving me the money, then that would be okay with you by your own arguements? Quote:
But you're assuming that we're working for a salary. We're not - we are commision based. If I work for an insurance firm and I get X% of every policy I sell and I sell zero policies, I'm getting nothing. Quote:
Want to read your own replies? If you're not using it, why did you mention it in the first place? Quote:
But you're NOT using GASS to submit why did you email Darksoft to find out what's what? Quote:
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I emailed darksoft to clear things up.
Again, I do not want to argue/debate this shit anymore. If anyone is interested, my contact details are throughout this message. Goodnight |
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Its sad to see two self righteous babies playing lawyer and trying to fuck up someones business. Why should he email Darksoft, because the almighty Railz and Fletch demand it? ![]() ![]() You two have big fucking heads. Hope everything goes ok, sic. |
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what a gay thread....Fletch switch to other herbs....obviously
the ones you smoked while posting in this thread were no good. Have you become Judge Judy? DynaMite ![]()
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Both DrinkingHard and VA2k use gass to hand submit galleries for people and both advertise it a service on this board. Its a good service.
My guess is Fletch would not be making this amount of stupid posts if it was one of their threads he was replying to. |
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And lest you think these two jokers are anything to be worried about...
Fletch is an ex-crackhead/alkie who persists in smoking weed and drinking despite overwhelming evidence.. this thread for instance.. that his brain has suffered enough chemical abuse for one lifetime. Railz has barely outgrown his Toms Newbie Booster training wheels and wants to play with the big kids on GFY. I know coming to GFY for the first time can be confusing, but these are not two people whose opinions.. in the grand scheme of the adult internet.. you need to be giving a fuck about. So its time to grow some balls. Now, repeat after me.. "Fletch, go fuck yourself, you crackhead bitch" Feels good, doesn't it? ![]() |
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Gutterboy, thanks for your support.
They don't intimidate me, I just didn't come here to argue, I came here looking for people who I could possibly help and they could help me. |
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Brian,
The only thing I really have issue with is this statement you made on GFY: Again, I am not advertising that I use GASS and if you don't want to buy it, email me and I'll use it for you. That cuts into my sales. Had you not mentioned my product at all, it probably wouldn't have been an issue. Now everyone that sees that thread and uses your service is a lost sale for me. However, nothing in the license prevents it's use for the purpose which you intend. I would like to impress upon you the necessity of NOT using my company name or product name in your advertising of your service UNLESS it is for the sole purpose of sending customers my way. If you have any other questions, let me know. Joel That is what darksoft emailed me back with. and this quote: Again, I am not advertising that I use GASS and if you don't want to buy it, email me and I'll use it for you. was misunderstood. It went with the line below it. The person who quoted me also got it wrong. I was saying that I AM using it to submit galleries I was saying that I AM NOT SAYING that I will do GASSs work for you IF YOU DONT WANT TO BUY IT. That was my point. I should have chose better words. Oh, and, to everyone who talked shit when everything I did was not breaking any rules whatsoever, Go Fuck Yourself |
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siccmade - you could at least have updated you're gass list. The list you posted is the default list that comes with gass. Many of those sites no longer exsist/take submissions etc.
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That list is much larger than the default list, and I submit everyday to that list.
There may be a COUPLE that are sometimes down, or are not currently accepting galleries, but they stay because it is what that client wants. That is not just the default list, it's the list I submit to daily. |
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OHH Burn on fletch and railz
SUCKERS ahah
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yes, it's quite unreadable
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You guys are easily navigated.
Too funny. hehehe ![]()
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I recall you doing a lot more stupid things and having to apologize on the board for your drunkeness. All I did was stir a little shit and you guys are going off. hahaha Damn a few beers and a few posts and youre all mad at meeee.. awwwww. Im lost now. ![]()
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why there are always a couple fucks who really like to draw attention to themselves and behave in a childish manner is something i could never understand.
i mean, here's the thing. an honest and hard-working guy tries to earn some more bucks and out of nowhere there are a couple morons who scare the shit out of him and make him and other people lose time (therefore money). fuck you and all your superior bulshit attitude. my advice is GET A FUCKING LIFE and stop acting lame. geesh... how the world would be better without these kind of stupidity... |
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GFL?
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C'mon, lets all take a moment to smile, and move on.
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yea mon
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Eh, I sort of expected it from someone around here.
I could only imagine how many people they scared off though. Thanks to everyone that has emailed me, I am getting back to everyone as fast as possible - just woke up from a nap, heh. There are no hard feelings though. Just trying to get some business done. And I am sorry if I have offended anyone here. Maybe next time the ballbusters can bust someone elses. |
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Actually my arguement was more along the lines that his mention of the product was possibly robbing DS of sales. Which, incidentally, I see he's confirmed. Quote:
I was playing lawyer? lol - actually I'll take that as a compliment. I just knew how DS would react. If he was above board he should've emailed him in the first place before posting here, and not mentioned the product name. Quote:
See above. If he had nothing to fear and wanted to play by the rules, why not use simple business ethics and email DS and ask *first*. /shrug Quote:
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Not my place to comment on someone else's lifestyle - but for the record I don't see him doing any harm to anyone else, so why should you care except as a lame attempt to make him look bad? Quote:
Thanks. I'll take that as a compliment. Ambition is good, don't you think? Quote:
Yep - comming to GFY for the first time to spam your service can be confusing. Especially when you get called on it. Quote:
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posts here did not reflect you.....you're a good guy and you don't use to bitch that much.....so why now? DynaMite ![]()
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Childish? Please tell me where I acted childish? I was simply giving my opinion on the situation and along with Fletch, advised this guy to email the author for confirmation. Quote:
I don't know him, so I have no idea how "honest and hardworking" he might be. However, I think he learnt something and in the end, that's a good thing. Quote:
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railz, this is not my first time coming to GFY. I have been reading the boards for a long time now.
I am not spamming the board either, it was one posting, asking if anyone needed what I had to offer. Only people bitching were you and fletch, everyone else either ignored it or took me up on the offer. The title of the thread shows exactly what it was all about, if you hate my "spam" that much, then why did you bother clicking. okay, I should not have mentioned their program. I didn't know that, now I do. That's great, yeah I learned something, but all of that other useless bitching could have been avoided. All you had to do is say "hey man, you shouldn't mention that program name.. maybe email them and make sure everything is cool?" instead it had to be flame-like. It's all good though. Hope everyone has a great thanksgiving ;o) |
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Well Railz - I have to agree with Tipsy on one thing
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This thread has gone fucking lame. Take this situation. You have a guy that hand submits 1000 galleries the good ol' fashion way for a number of clients. Then, he comes across a handy tool that can make him far more productive, and be able to cater to his current clients quicker, and to cater to even more clients.
You guys are saying he shouldn't be allowed to use it? Fuckin' bullshit. This guy isn't doing a thing wrong. |
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Leave the fucking guy alone you assholes.. A joke is a joke but, you guys take some shit too far..
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