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Old 05-01-2009, 09:35 AM   #51
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its been removed
So now you think this is over?

I sent you an email last night along with an invoice. Don't ignore it...

If you think this is going to just go away because you (finally) took down content that you had no permission to use in the first place - your sadly mistaken.
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dating sites don't have to pay for content, they are exempt
THIS IS INTERNET LAW!



it's so sad so many sites still make money from stealing in 2009


hmm interesting....emailing them an invoice, great idea if they pay this could work...
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hmm interesting....emailing them an invoice, great idea if they pay this could work...
I would expect a legit honest operation to pay the invoice. It wasn't much money compared to what it should have been....and what it could turn into if not taken care of promptly.

Only a dishonest company would think it's ok to steal the work of producers and use it for their ad campaign without a license.
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I would expect a legit honest operation to pay the invoice. It wasn't much money compared to what it should have been....and what it could turn into if not taken care of promptly.

Only a dishonest company would think it's ok to steal the work of producers and use it for their ad campaign without a license.
Good on you
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When I clicked on this thread this morning, the first thing I saw at the top of the page was a PimpMansion banner. Right there - above a screen cap of my stolen content. Pretty ironic I must say

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Not a hint of an apology?

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Lil' bump for my content stealing friends....

I have prepared a press release that will be sent to all of the adult news agencies first thing Monday morning just in case this issue is not resolved by then. I'll also be hitting up all the adult webmaster boards. I think it's extremely important that producers in our industry know that these guys think its ok to steal their work, use it for their advertising campaign and not license/pay for it. And also think it's important that affiliates see this type of behavior. If a company will steal from a producer, why wouldn't they steal from an affiliate?

Thanks everybody for your support and have a GREAT weekend!!!
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Lil' bump for my content stealing friends....

I have prepared a press release that will be sent to all of the adult news agencies first thing Monday morning just in case this issue is not resolved by then. I'll also be hitting up all the adult webmaster boards. I think it's extremely important that producers in our industry know that these guys think its ok to steal their work, use it for their advertising campaign and not license/pay for it. And also think it's important that affiliates see this type of behavior. If a company will steal from a producer, why wouldn't they steal from an affiliate?

Thanks everybody for your support and have a GREAT weekend!!!
i think instead of doing all that you should contact a lawyer.
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I just sent PimpMansion a bill for image theft and unlicensed usage. If they have any morals at all, they'll pay the invoice immediately and cease using any and all of my content that is in their possession. I think the going rate now for copyright infringement of an image is something like $150K per image. I hope it doesn't get to that point....
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We've gone after two individuals a few years back over copyright infringement (using our images on the front pages of their paysites) - and both times had our attorney send them a C&D letter along with a demand they pay us "compensation for potential loss of livelihood" due to the availability of our copyrighted images on their site(s).

Both of them settled (out of court) and sent us payments in the amount the lawyer had stipulated. One of them even called us at 4am EST (from Britain) after receiving the letter and shittin' in his panties.

As a side-note...you might want to check this out about the Suze Randall vs. Max Sheridan copyright settlement (May/2000). Your current issue is comparatively minor of course, but the legal precedents it set at the time are still relevant and food-for-thought.
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wurd! I get as pissed as Dean is right now whenever I see my content stolen and used also! Good for you Dean!
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WHAT is legal? Glad to see you put some intelligent thought into your post before adding to the convo bro..
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Any resolution yet?

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This has not been resolved yet.

Someone pointed out to me this morning that the ad is still on their server. Now, common sense should tell you that if you got caught using stolen content, it would probably be a good idea to delete the content from your server. It's been almost a week since I discovered that they were using my content illegally and as of right now....it's still up on their server. I have a sickening feeling in my stomach because this is about to get real nasty. I really hate to take it to that level but these guys are giving me no other choice.

My stolen content!
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Not a hint of an apology?

I think you guys better pay Dean his penalty money.

I think even a rogue designer apology is better than none.

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when you invoiced them did you mention a "per day" rate that they may still be incurring every day that your content remains up?
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So now you think this is over?

I sent you an email last night along with an invoice. Don't ignore it...

If you think this is going to just go away because you (finally) took down content that you had no permission to use in the first place - your sadly mistaken.
This is the correct way to handle this.



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This is the correct way to handle this.
Pay the man
AND learn from your lessons....do not use other producers content with out permission
Seems pretty reasonable to me

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I think even a rogue designer apology is better than none.

Also, I agree that payment is due.
No legit company would blame this on a designer. They would just take responsibility for it and correct it as soon as possible.

When my crew and I are on location and one of my assistants accidentally scratches a piece of furniture or puts a small hole in a wall (which has happened)...I don't go to the homeowner and point the finger at my assistant. I (unlike these guys) take full responsibility for folks that work under my direction. I go the homeowner and do whatever it takes to make the guy happy. I simply do the right thing....

This kind of behavior separates the honest professional companies from the scammers, thieves and low lifes that plague our industry.
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No legit company would blame this on a designer. They would just take responsibility for it and correct it as soon as possible.

When my crew and I are on location and one of my assistants accidentally scratches a piece of furniture or puts a small hole in a wall (which has happened)...I don't go to the homeowner and point the finger at my assistant. I (unlike these guys) take full responsibility for folks that work under my direction. I go the homeowner and do whatever it takes to make the guy happy. I simply do the right thing....

This kind of behavior separates the honest professional companies from the scammers, thieves and low lifes that plague our industry.
Oh, I 100% agree. I was just being slightly flippant, since that is the excuse/apology we see more often than not.
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Bump - I want to keep this on the front page until it is resolved.

Hope you guys are having a great weekend
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Welcome to my world Dean. It is an epidemic. I was in Vegas and saw my pics on BILLBOARDS and Taxi's. The best thing you can do is send everything to the (c) office when you first edit it. Then when you go after these assholes not only do you get a judgment of around $10k per image (per usage), but they will likely have to pay YOUR attorneys fees. The trick is to send them a C+D first by registered mail (better yet Fed-EX). Then when they ignore it you can go after them for WILLFUL infringement.

I don't ever let anyone fuck with my pics anymore. Neither should you or anyone making the effort to produce quality content.

I am not an attorney and the opinions I express are solely my own. Seek professional legal help etc etc....

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Welcome to my world Dean. It is an epidemic. I was in Vegas and saw my pics on BILLBOARDS and Taxi's. The best thing you can do is send everything to the (c) office when you first edit it. Then when you go after these assholes not only do you get a judgment of around $10k per image (per usage), but they will likely have to pay YOUR attorneys fees. The trick is to send them a C+D first by registered mail (better yet Fed-EX). Then when they ignore it you can go after them for WILLFUL infringement.

I don't ever let anyone fuck with my pics anymore. Neither should you or anyone making the effort to produce quality content.

I am not an attorney and the opinions I express are solely my own. Seek professional legal help etc etc....
Thanks Jay - shooting you an email.....
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I care! And so does every producer who spends their money creating them.

We don't expect you to care though so have a great day
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I feel like you do now often dude. And in our case it's tons of video content.. pretty messed up. And the best of luck on resolving it. just taking the image down shouldn't be enough indeed.
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It's this type of attitude that created the stealing of content which led to the present day mess with tube sites.
I will assume by your statement, you must approve of stealing content that does not belong to you, even if it is just one image.....stealing is stealing, Period!

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Old 05-03-2009, 07:43 AM   #96
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who cares about a damn image, the tubes have hours and hours of video content.
Go away kid


Copyright infringement is WRONG. Especially by those that are supposedly working along side you. "Hey who cares about the guys that rob a 7-11, there's people robbing BANKS!"

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Old 05-03-2009, 09:05 AM   #97
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who cares about a damn image, the tubes have hours and hours of video content.
You'd care, if you were the one who put in the dozens upon dozens of hours building up a business, recruiting models, investing in equipment, developing your own talent as well as an eye for seeing it in others, etc etc, then only to find that the quality product you produced due to all that sweat and toil was stolen by some thief who is now profiting from YOUR work.

But one would have to have a reasonable semblance of business acumen as well as knowing right from wrong in order to understand all that.

Some here may find the issue in threads like this "no big deal". I find it despicable. And why people who have an otherwise good name in the adult business world would let this go and willfully trash their own reputations by ignoring the problem and not taking steps to make things right immediately is beyond me.
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Old 05-03-2009, 09:34 AM   #98
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Old 05-03-2009, 09:36 AM   #99
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I just love spending thousands of dollars to produce content and then see it used this way without my knowledge, without my approval and without a license. It's really sad that theft plays such a big role in our industry.

HornyMatches is really bad. We've caught 100s of banners and galleries of theirs with our content. We've approached them over and over. A real pain in the ass.
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Old 05-03-2009, 09:40 AM   #100
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Damn Sharky I didn't realize you work with HornyMatches. That may be great or horrible. I've always thought and known you to be a good guy so I'm hoping this works out great ;)
We had a bunch of our content removed a few months ago. I believe there is still a bunch up. I need all my Twistys content removed from banners, ads, and galleries on hornymatches now and moving forward.
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