Google Traffic, What is going on? - GoFuckYourself.com

Waramp · 12-01-2008, 11:48 AM

So my first blog is sitting at 650 uniques a day.
Ive posted probly 45 unique posts. It is backfilled with 450 posts of crap RSS from perfectgonzo, hidefriches, fuckyoucash and slickcash.
All In One SEO, Google Sitemap. Used alt tags, and tags in the unique posts only.

My new blog is very clean. 35 posts + 15 thumbnail pages. 95% unique text. Half the posts point to pages, where the full gallery of thumbnails is shown, which then point to the full pics on the affiliates server.
All in One SEO, Google Sitemap. Descriptive Alt tags on every single picture and thumbnail. Tags on every post. This blog is not old so i dont expect much traffic, but right now i am sitting at..........30uniques a day.

I have looked at the statcounter and every hit i have seen from google images is going to the first 4 ugly posts i did. (total of 6 pictures) 6 months ago. I have about 100 pics total now.

I post about 3 times a weak. Not enough...but WTF?

tranza · 12-01-2008, 12:04 PM

Maybe it's because the first one is older??

~Ray · 12-01-2008, 12:07 PM

you need 500 one way backlinks

Agent 488 · 12-01-2008, 12:30 PM

you use wordpress? there is a hack going around that's stealing google traffic.

crockett · 12-01-2008, 12:36 PM

The first one is older so it's gained more trafic over time. With blogs you need to aim for a few hits a day per page, so over time those few hits a day add up to thousands.

I also find it can be very hit or miss with the SE's.. Some will pull in traffic almost right away, others just seem to do nothing. Just keep your updates going and work on getting incoming links the traffic will eventually come.

Also don't think SE is the only traffic you need.. You need to be working on other traffic sources as well.

Naughty · 12-01-2008, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by budsbabes

you use wordpress? there is a hack going around that's stealing google traffic.

Now that's one sweet hack.
Use it for a week and never work again.

TheDA · 12-01-2008, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by budsbabes

you use wordpress? there is a hack going around that's stealing google traffic.

Really? Is there somewhere I can read up on this? I'd appreciate it.

$5 submissions · 12-01-2008, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tranza

Maybe it's because the first one is older??

Yep. Also, maybe has more backlinks...

$5 submissions · 12-01-2008, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by budsbabes

you use wordpress? there is a hack going around that's stealing google traffic.

Are you referring to the xss expoit on shared hosts that supposedly got fixed by the latest WP upgrade?

SmokeyTheBear · 12-01-2008, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDA

Really? Is there somewhere I can read up on this? I'd appreciate it.

find your site on google click the link , if you get redirected you are hacked

hack just checks refering url if its google they insert code , this way you wont notice it just going to the site , so if someone tells you a page is hacked , you got to it and find nothing

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Robbie · 12-01-2008, 03:42 PM

Funny, I just put up a brand new site last week. A total of 3 links to it from my own sites. I'm first page for a very hot term and getting 60% of my traffic from google.

Backlinks might be a little over rated. Or else I've just always been real lucky all these years. I wasn't even going for any particular term on it either. That's the even funnier part. I just worked on it, put it up...then a few days ago noticed in my analytics a shitload of traffic coming in for a seach term

James124 · 12-01-2008, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waramp

So my first blog is sitting at 650 uniques a day.
Ive posted probly 45 unique posts. It is backfilled with 450 posts of crap RSS from perfectgonzo, hidefriches, fuckyoucash and slickcash.
All In One SEO, Google Sitemap. Used alt tags, and tags in the unique posts only.

My new blog is very clean. 35 posts + 15 thumbnail pages. 95% unique text. Half the posts point to pages, where the full gallery of thumbnails is shown, which then point to the full pics on the affiliates server.
All in One SEO, Google Sitemap. Descriptive Alt tags on every single picture and thumbnail. Tags on every post. This blog is not old so i dont expect much traffic, but right now i am sitting at..........30uniques a day.

I have looked at the statcounter and every hit i have seen from google images is going to the first 4 ugly posts i did. (total of 6 pictures) 6 months ago. I have about 100 pics total now.

I post about 3 times a weak. Not enough...but WTF?

Do you realize how much crap is on the internet? google does not have unlimited traffic. When you describe your blog you only mention seo-stuff and content-type/structure. Not quality of content, whether text or images. Dont you see that google is right in not sending you more traffic? Try getting more links. A more interesting question would be what will happen when google can only send 2 uniques/day to every newish generic seo'd shitty blog.

Mr Pheer · 12-01-2008, 03:54 PM

Getting traffic from google is simple.

You need written content.
You need keywords in your content.
You need links pointed to your page.

The more links to your page, the more important google will think your content and keywords are, so it will move your position up its ranks, and the more traffic it will send to you.

Really, its that simple.

TheDA · 12-01-2008, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

find your site on google click the link , if you get redirected you are hacked

hack just checks refering url if its google they insert code , this way you wont notice it just going to the site , so if someone tells you a page is hacked , you got to it and find nothing

OK thanks. But what do you think to this...

Is it possible a hack like this got Google's attention on a few sites on the same server and banned them to the point that they no longer exist in Google's index anywhere?

6 sites all running WP completely deleted a few weeks ago

Nothing shady going on, no interlinking, not even the same niches

mynameisjim · 12-01-2008, 04:34 PM

You won't get better rankings by posting more. 3 times a week is just as good as everyday.

Notice I said "rankings".....If you post 3 times a week, after a year you will have less posts than than if you updated everyday, so you will have less traffic, but google doesn't give you any special treatment or ranking bonus if you update constantly. But more posts bring in more traffic simply because you have more content that might match a search query.

In my experience, a static site can rank just as well and for just as long as a constantly updated site.

Now before the SEO guys (real and wannabes) call me cluesless, this is just my opinion, take it or leave it.

SmokeyTheBear · 12-01-2008, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDA

OK thanks. But what do you think to this...

Is it possible a hack like this got Google's attention on a few sites on the same server and banned them to the point that they no longer exist in Google's index anywhere?

nah .. even if they did detect something your site would still be listed, it would just have a warning

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDA

6 sites all running WP completely deleted a few weeks ago

Nothing shady going on, no interlinking, not even the same niches

like site:yourdomain.com gives no results or like no serp ?

SmokeyTheBear · 12-01-2008, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mynameisjim

You won't get better rankings by posting more. 3 times a week is just as good as everyday.

Notice I said "rankings".....If you post 3 times a week, after a year you will have less posts than than if you updated everyday, so you will have less traffic, but google doesn't give you any special treatment or ranking bonus if you update constantly. But more posts bring in more traffic simply because you have more content that might match a search query.

In my experience, a static site can rank just as well and for just as long as a constantly updated site.

Now before the SEO guys (real and wannabes) call me cluesless, this is just my opinion, take it or leave it.

i think alot of people try to predict what google does without thinking if it makes sense.

updated content does not equal "more relevence". If i am looking for "apple pie recipe" i dont want updated content i want the same content, i want an apple pie recipe. What updated content does is evens out your chances of ranking high for something kinda

TheDA · 12-01-2008, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

nah .. even if they did detect something your site would still be listed, it would just have a warning

like site:yourdomain.com gives no results or like no serp ?

OK I just wondered. Yeah nothing shows for site:yourdomain.com, info:yourdomain.com or cache:yourdomain.com on any of the domains.

Oldest site is 3-4 years old with regular handwritten posts.

Can't for the life of me think what has done it.

*Sorry for the threadjack Waramp

$5 submissions · 12-01-2008, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

Getting traffic from google is simple.

You need written content.
You need keywords in your content.
You need links pointed to your page.

The more links to your page, the more important google will think your content and keywords are, so it will move your position up its ranks, and the more traffic it will send to you.

Really, its that simple.

Also, keep your pages and links simple so Googlebot doesn't get confused. Reference.

mynameisjim · 12-01-2008, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

i think alot of people try to predict what google does without thinking if it makes sense.

updated content does not equal "more relevence". If i am looking for "apple pie recipe" i dont want updated content i want the same content, i want an apple pie recipe. What updated content does is evens out your chances of ranking high for something kinda

As a surfer, that's one of the things I hate about google, often when I'm searching I want recent results but the oldest pages usually have the most backlinks and end up showing up first. I don't know how many times I've searched for computer related topics and end up getting articles from 2002 which are almost useless.

For example, last night I was searching for a fix to help with a Windows Media Player problem and so many results were 3 or 4 years old.

Waramp · 12-01-2008, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tranza

Maybe it's because the first one is older??

Quote:

Originally Posted by $5 submissions

Yep. Also, maybe has more backlinks...

The first site is 8 months old, second site is 6 months. The newest post that has received a hit from google images was to a post that i put up on August 16 08.

How much better are one way links, compared to link trades? (pages having equal PR)

bdld · 12-01-2008, 06:04 PM

one way links from similar themed sites don't even compare in terms of weight to link trades.

$5 submissions · 12-01-2008, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Waramp

How much better are one way links, compared to link trades? (pages having equal PR)

I'm not sure about others' experiences but my experience with link building is that one way links are better. I do mainstream so I'm not sure if this applies to adult as well.

To do one way links you need to solicit links for your Blog 2 (newer blog) in exchange for a one way link from Blog 1. This threeway backlink building will look like this: A > B > C B is the partner site, A and C are your blogs. A > B and B > A link exchanges don't pack as much "juice" (judging from my experience).

If you want to look for people to trade links with, I suggest the following approach:

Find the backlinks of someone that has VERY HIGH SERPS in the category that includes your subniche. Example: if you are microblogging Carmen Hayes, try to find who the big guys are in "Ebony" and similar niches. Use this tool to see where the backlinks are coming from: http://www.domain-pop.com/ (there's more fine-grained backlink checkers out there as well) Filter out unrelated sites. Dump the main urls into a bulk page rank checker like:http://www.bulkpagerank.com/ (If there's issues with this site's database/API today, there's other bulk page rank checkers out there, just do a search).

Find the ones with decent page rank. Find their contact form or email. Many don't have contact forms, unfortunately. Create a template and email them your deal. It would probably help if you put them on your page beforehand so they can immediately see their link--mention that you'll take it down if they decline the offer.

You should have backlinks in no time. One fiinal thing: swap posts instead of blogroll links. Depending on your niche and how many links you already have on your roll, this might degrade over time.

Again, this is my experience. Haterz and SEO gurus probably will say otherwise. That's life.

Supz · 12-01-2008, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Funny, I just put up a brand new site last week. A total of 3 links to it from my own sites. I'm first page for a very hot term and getting 60% of my traffic from google.

Backlinks might be a little over rated. Or else I've just always been real lucky all these years. I wasn't even going for any particular term on it either. That's the even funnier part. I just worked on it, put it up...then a few days ago noticed in my analytics a shitload of traffic coming in for a seach term

This happens pretty often for me with my new sites. A lot of times google will let it goes for a month or so, then back it down after a month or so.

qxm · 12-01-2008, 07:00 PM

Mmmm I guess we can safely blame the lack of traffic on the dumbness of Google Spiders .. I mean once.. one of them got confused with a link I had on my site and didn't know what to do so it hit the same page 300 times on the same day, the next day it didn't come back so I thought It got what It was looking for but the next day it came back and hit the same page again like 400 more times....

I mean what is up with spiders these days?...

</lol>

Waramp · 12-02-2008, 10:02 PM

So the newest image on either site to get a hit was posted on Aug 28/08. Since then there have been around 20 posts. Maybe 60 images with title/alt tags.

Its almost as if Google images updates quarterly?

Mr Pheer · 12-02-2008, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $5 submissions

Also, keep your pages and links simple so Googlebot doesn't get confused. Reference.

I see someone is a clickbank affiliate

12-01-2008, 11:48 AM	#1
Waramp Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: icq 65302898 Posts: 66	Google Traffic, What is going on? So my first blog is sitting at 650 uniques a day. Ive posted probly 45 unique posts. It is backfilled with 450 posts of crap RSS from perfectgonzo, hidefriches, fuckyoucash and slickcash. All In One SEO, Google Sitemap. Used alt tags, and tags in the unique posts only. My new blog is very clean. 35 posts + 15 thumbnail pages. 95% unique text. Half the posts point to pages, where the full gallery of thumbnails is shown, which then point to the full pics on the affiliates server. All in One SEO, Google Sitemap. Descriptive Alt tags on every single picture and thumbnail. Tags on every post. This blog is not old so i dont expect much traffic, but right now i am sitting at..........30uniques a day. I have looked at the statcounter and every hit i have seen from google images is going to the first 4 ugly posts i did. (total of 6 pictures) 6 months ago. I have about 100 pics total now. I post about 3 times a weak. Not enough...but WTF?

12-01-2008, 12:04 PM	#2
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	Maybe it's because the first one is older?? __________________ I'm just a newbie.

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crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 76,806	The first one is older so it's gained more trafic over time. With blogs you need to aim for a few hits a day per page, so over time those few hits a day add up to thousands. I also find it can be very hit or miss with the SE's.. Some will pull in traffic almost right away, others just seem to do nothing. Just keep your updates going and work on getting incoming links the traffic will eventually come. Also don't think SE is the only traffic you need.. You need to be working on other traffic sources as well. __________________ In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,959	Funny, I just put up a brand new site last week. A total of 3 links to it from my own sites. I'm first page for a very hot term and getting 60% of my traffic from google. Backlinks might be a little over rated. Or else I've just always been real lucky all these years. I wasn't even going for any particular term on it either. That's the even funnier part. I just worked on it, put it up...then a few days ago noticed in my analytics a shitload of traffic coming in for a seach term __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

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Mr Pheer Retired Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 21,261	Getting traffic from google is simple. You need written content. You need keywords in your content. You need links pointed to your page. The more links to your page, the more important google will think your content and keywords are, so it will move your position up its ranks, and the more traffic it will send to you. Really, its that simple. __________________ 2 lifeguards for Jessica

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mynameisjim Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,985	You won't get better rankings by posting more. 3 times a week is just as good as everyday. Notice I said "rankings".....If you post 3 times a week, after a year you will have less posts than than if you updated everyday, so you will have less traffic, but google doesn't give you any special treatment or ranking bonus if you update constantly. But more posts bring in more traffic simply because you have more content that might match a search query. In my experience, a static site can rank just as well and for just as long as a constantly updated site. Now before the SEO guys (real and wannabes) call me cluesless, this is just my opinion, take it or leave it. __________________ jim (at) amateursconvert . com Amateurs Convert

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bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	one way links from similar themed sites don't even compare in terms of weight to link trades.

12-01-2008, 07:00 PM	#26
qxm Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NoHo Posts: 5,970	Mmmm I guess we can safely blame the lack of traffic on the dumbness of Google Spiders .. I mean once.. one of them got confused with a link I had on my site and didn't know what to do so it hit the same page 300 times on the same day, the next day it didn't come back so I thought It got what It was looking for but the next day it came back and hit the same page again like 400 more times.... I mean what is up with spiders these days?... </lol> __________________ ICQ: 266990876

12-02-2008, 10:02 PM	#27
Waramp Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: icq 65302898 Posts: 66	So the newest image on either site to get a hit was posted on Aug 28/08. Since then there have been around 20 posts. Maybe 60 images with title/alt tags. Its almost as if Google images updates quarterly?