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Old 11-07-2008, 03:08 PM   #51
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Old 11-07-2008, 03:08 PM   #52
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a 9 is a damn fine gun.

You can have 5 accurate shots off in the time of dealing with the recoil on a desert eagle from the first shot.
Assuming accuracy is good, all you'd likely need is one shot with the Desert Eagle. It's simple economics really..

I mean, bullets are like, expensive. :D
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Either you live in some pretty bad ghetto, or the whole story is made up...
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Either you live in some pretty bad ghetto, or the whole story is made up...
You left out the third option: trailer park.
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You left out the third option: trailer park.
I agree, I live in bumfuck Iowa and that shit don't even go on here.. So hes in some pretty ghetto trailer park.
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Old 11-07-2008, 03:46 PM   #58
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Assuming accuracy is good, all you'd likely need is one shot with the Desert Eagle. It's simple economics really..

I mean, bullets are like, expensive. :D
What if you miss them on the first DE shot? what if you hit a fleshy part? Shooting 5x with the 9 even if your aim sucks is bound to hit something

people that carry 9's tend to shoot BETTER simply because any douche with a small penis goes out and buys the biggest gun they can. Most of the time they can't shoot worth shit.

Want cheap bullets? 22 baby... put a whole clip in a guys chest without costing shit. Even if they don't lose much blood fragments will get them dead nice and slow.

You guys seem to be forgetting that tons of cheap small bullets will be WAY harder to recover from than 1 larger hole. If I'm shooting somebody I WANT them to be in pain.
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the nephew of my neighbor jumped onto my property this morning and threatened my Uncle with a Shotgun.
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which, on its face and under the circumstances in which it is made,
is so unequivocal, unconditional, immediate, and specific as to
convey to the person threatened, a gravity of purpose and an
immediate prospect of execution of the threat, and thereby causes
that person reasonably to be in sustained fear for his or her own
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No, you don't have to shoot for it to be assault.

Also, is the nephew on probation or parole? Good info to have when you DO file that police report. You ARE going to file a report, right? If hes on probation or parole, he can be searched at any time. That includes any residence he may live in.


That's a loose cannon you're living next to. What happens if you're not around with your 9mm the next time he loses it on a loved one?
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Old 11-07-2008, 03:57 PM   #60
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Only in America...
People in Amsterdam dont come over to your house and bring a fucking shotgun. They may bring a shovel but thats it.
same thing for quebec. What a sad place to be living in.
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What if you miss them on the first DE shot?
That's what "assuming accuracy" addresses. Maybe you skimmed over that part.

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what if you hit a fleshy part?
You ever seen the size of the hole a desert eagle makes, even in someone's "fleshy part" ? lol

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Shooting 5x with the 9 even if your aim sucks is bound to hit something
Again, assuming accuracy. Not everyone has it so no, there's no guarantees.

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people that carry 9's tend to shoot BETTER simply because any douche with a small penis goes out and buys the biggest gun they can. Most of the time they can't shoot worth shit.
I'm inclined to not make generalizations like this. I'm sure somewhere there's a 44 mag owner who has the upper body/arm strength and accuracy to hit what they aim at.

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Want cheap bullets? 22 baby... put a whole clip in a guys chest without costing shit. Even if they don't lose much blood fragments will get them dead nice and slow.

You guys seem to be forgetting that tons of cheap small bullets will be WAY harder to recover from than 1 larger hole. If I'm shooting somebody I WANT them to be in pain.
You really have to take some of my posts with more of a sense of humor than this.

A simple "" would have sufficed.
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Seriously, what is it that everyone has against a 9mm? If you're shooting defensive loads, the expansion difference between a 9mm and .45 is about 1/10 of an inch. Add to that the ability to fire more quickly and more accurately and with less practice. Plus - nearly 2x the rounds in the magazine, 3x if you can LE mags.

I don't get it. Is it a guy thing?
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Seriously, what is it that everyone has against a 9mm? If you're shooting defensive loads, the expansion difference between a 9mm and .45 is about 1/10 of an inch. Add to that the ability to fire more quickly and more accurately and with less practice. Plus - nearly 2x the rounds in the magazine, 3x if you can LE mags.

I don't get it. Is it a guy thing?
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impressive knowledge you have about guns.
I didn't know shit til' my husband went to the academy. I refused to have a weapon in my house that I didn't know how to use. So I educated myself, and learned how to shoot. 10 years later, I'm a better shot than he is. Not with the shotgun though. Ow. Good news is you don't need to BE as accurate with a shotgun.

(Nifty, now I'm gonna get shit for being married to a cop :P )
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Seriously, what is it that everyone has against a 9mm? If you're shooting defensive loads, the expansion difference between a 9mm and .45 is about 1/10 of an inch. Add to that the ability to fire more quickly and more accurately and with less practice. Plus - nearly 2x the rounds in the magazine, 3x if you can LE mags.

I don't get it. Is it a guy thing?
most people that own guns just go to the range and shoot targets and think they are experts..

if you have taken a tactical training course and done speed drills and then practice those drills regularly, it doesnt matter what you shoot 9 mm or 45..

even a meth head isnt going to keep coming with 3-5 shots center mast or 1 in the head..
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DE is a novelty gun, anyone who mentions it for any kind of protection is a fucking moron... 9mm is a great gun for any suitation, yes 45 is better but who cares. This whole argument is stupid
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most people that own guns just go to the range and shoot targets and think they are experts..

if you have taken a tactical training course and done speed drills and then practice those drills regularly, it doesnt matter what you shoot 9 mm or 45..

even a meth head isnt going to keep coming with 3-5 shots center mast or 1 in the head..
*chuckles* See my above post. I'm married to a cop. I outshoot him in speed drills at the range. We play around with some tactical stuff at the range, like moving the target and pausing, while the other shoots, using the range wall as "cover." I've learned and practiced some tactical stuff out in the desert. I mentioned this in another gun thread, but I figured being on a girl with a low post count for the reason no one responded.

I have smalls hands. I simply cannot comfortably fire a .45 beyond 2-3 shots. But I shoot consistently within the 8 ring on a silhouette with a 9mm at 25 yards.
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I just came on your tits.


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*chuckles* See my above post. I'm married to a cop. I outshoot him in speed drills at the range. We play around with some tactical stuff at the range, like moving the target and pausing, while the other shoots, using the range wall as "cover." I've learned and practiced some tactical stuff out in the desert. I mentioned this in another gun thread, but I figured being on a girl with a low post count for the reason no one responded.

I have smalls hands. I simply cannot comfortably fire a .45 beyond 2-3 shots. But I shoot consistently within the 8 ring on a silhouette with a 9mm at 25 yards.
you could probably shoot better than 95% of people that own guns and you would do better in a tense situation then most..

people forget about the adrenaline factor when in a fight or flight situation and how poor that can make an untrained person shoot.

its nice to see a person who takes the time to learn how to use a gun properly..
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I just got a new 9 a couple hours ago . . . can you send your neighbor over as I probably won't have time to get to the range for a couple weeks.
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you could probably shoot better than 95% of people that own guns and you would do better in a tense situation then most..

people forget about the adrenaline factor when in a fight or flight situation and how poor that can make an untrained person shoot.

its nice to see a person who takes the time to learn how to use a gun properly..
I hear from hub all the time - "in a high pressure situation, you always revert to your most basic level of training." I guess that's why military and LE train repetitively.

I've been in that fight or flight situation with the shotgun in my hands. The only reason the idiotic 16 yr old that broke into my house didn't end up with his brains on my kitchen wall, is because I had an open door at my back.

It's amazing though, the clarity of thought and the number of things that go through your mind in a split second when faced with something like that - up to and including, "Do I *really* want to clean grey matter off the counter where I cook?"
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hmmm, there's something fishy about your story bro!

i'm assuming you're referring to a pump shotgun. in order to "charge" (load) the shotgun the second time, he would have had to either pull the trigger or press and hold the pump release.
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that is fucking crazy.... jesus christ hand out guns to inbreed fucks and you get situations like this, over a fucking tool... pro guns or not, that would never happen in a country with gun control. But i bet the gun nutjobs will have a some kind of illogical argument.
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that is fucking crazy.... jesus christ hand out guns to inbreed fucks and you get situations like this, over a fucking tool... pro guns or not, that would never happen in a country with gun control. But i bet the gun nutjobs will have a some kind of illogical argument.
Even many countries with "gun control" are more lax with shotguns.

Crazy psycho idiots are crazy psycho idiots.
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have a disagreement with your neighbor so everyone pulls out their weapons!
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sounds like an awesome place to live!

have a disagreement with your neighbor so everyone pulls out their weapons!
It helps cut down of the riff-raff like you and nico-t
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I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?
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Old 11-07-2008, 09:49 PM   #87
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So I grabbed my 9MM for the first time in my life with intent to use it. Loaded it charged it.

Went outside.
Had the safety off and had the upper hand entirelly I came out aiming.
He charged his shotgun and did not see me comming.
First, you watch too many Hollywood Movies.

Second, you are a clear example of a SICK society.

Third, an individual like you would go to prison in any decent country.

Forth, you need therapy and psico-tropics, ASAP.

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Old 11-07-2008, 09:59 PM   #88
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A gun is so pussy....

I have taken down so many a guy with my bare hands and controlled a situation.

Anyway, if you want to test my skills one on one...ICQ me.
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You "charged" your gun, lol, do you know how stupid that sounds?
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I own a Kimber .45 extremely accurate very little recoil. I plan on getting a AR15 or M4 soon.
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I hate this kind of situations

AlienQ don't hesitate to report this motherfucker

The law is your safest bet
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i would have shot the neighbor. teach him a lesson. go out ghetto style holding it sideways and yell "Yippie Kay yay motherfucker" and take him out
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i would have shot the neighbor. teach him a lesson. go out ghetto style holding it sideways and yell "Yippie Kay yay motherfucker" and take him out
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I hate this kind of situations

AlienQ don't hesitate to report this motherfucker

The law is your safest bet
OH he was reported, they got em and took 8 of his guns out of the his house I think.
It was quite an ordeal, but its good when the cops are on your side. I do not think he will be comming out anytime soon after this incident, as I think my uncle will be pressing charges. Its gonna be a long ordeal.

My uncle is OK though, he was pretty freaked, I was pretty freaked and I was very fucking scared the whole time it was going on I do not know about how level headed I was I just did my best to keep calm as the situation evolved in less than 30 seconds even though my heart was freaking entirely out as I was moving toward the truck, the beating was insane and I was high as fuck on adrenaline simply moving out of my garage to the front of my uncles truck seemed like forever to get to that of cover I needed. A shotgun will go wide even if he were off from an accurate aim, he would not need anymore than a second to level it on me if he saw me, thats all I could think at the moment. Its that right there that fucked my head the whole time.

I was not sure if the neighbor with the shotgun were to see me holding a gun that I may have ended in the back seat of the cop car as well. Once I knew his shotgun was empty I was relieved and very glad I didnt let him see that I was armed.

I am not perfect as to the laws of what would happen to me with the 9mm and if the cops were to know or if I had shot him in self defense or claiming self defense and not end up in the station myself, that was the last shit I wanted. My permit is clean and all so I think I got pretty lucky today in more ways than one by placing it in my hoodie pocket.

For one am not the kind of person that would look forward to shooting someone or killing them. As to anyone that looks forward to the kind of event I went through today you might want to seek some therapy.

I got an idea of how fucking messy things get with weapons hunting deer, cleaning them it's fuckin sick lots of blood, I really have a hard time picturing a dead guy with blood everywhere and it being my bullet that got em in my own fucking backyard...

Thanks for everyone that read this and I hope none of you ever have to go through this kind of thing this was amoung my first and I will be thinking about it for a long time.
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