Which girls are the best to work with?

[Paul Markham]

Assuming you have worked with girls from different countries.

So who do you think are the best girls to work with?

Forget about language difficulties, I'm asking about turning up on time, doing the job as you want, putting in a good performance, sexy, horny, fuckable and just generally a pleasure to work with.

Yes there are exceptions and I'm talking about a general opinion.

US if so you can say which part.
EU Again where
GB
Eastern Europe
Asian, not the girls on the West Coast LOL
Australian.
And anywhere else you care to mention.

[adonthenet]

Probably the Russians, Just a guess =)
Lets hear it...

[Enemator]

In my experience the Czech girls were the easiest to work with(language barrier not takien into account).

No fuss, they do what they are told and they tell you what they don't want to do.
They keep themselves fit as fuck and clean.

A lot of Brittish girls are full of it. Attitude here, arrogance there. Excuses, dead grannies, moms in hospitals etc.

[Paul Markham]

I would say Eastern European girls are best. Not counting the Polish who are scared God will find out. LOL

[klinton]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I would say Eastern European girls are best. Not counting the Polish who are scared God will find out. LOL

haha , i'm not so sure on this

young ladies have different mentality

[Mutt]

US Midwest and South

as far as dependability/reliability - don't think there's any region that's any better or worse than the others - i'm just talking about looks and personality.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Mutt

US Midwest and South

as far as dependability/reliability - don't think there's any region that's any better or worse than the others - i'm just talking about looks and personality.

I've shot a few times in the US. New York, LA, San Fran, San Diego and spoken to a few US shooters. In general they think US girls are the worse for turning up on time. 10.00 means anything after 12.00 and they usually have to catch a bus at 4.00.

Midwest and Southern girls must be different.

[Paul Markham]

If you speak to most Danish or Australian guys in the business they will say Danish or Aussie girls are bad. Danes will do most things off camera and nothing on camera. They don't like the label of Denmark being a porn center. Aussie girls want to be Playboy or lingerie models.

Yet two of the best girls I ever shot, and dated, were Danish and Australian and they would do most things. Pity was I shot them only for solo girl magazine stuff.

[Enemator]

Danish girls are fuckgin stunning. Sad to hear that, I always wanted to go and shoot there. How are they for lingerie type shoots?

[perfectodollars-gabrio]

to my experience, it's hard to say about a location, if i had to say, i hate working with italian girls..... too fussy and everything, worked with UK girls, usa girls, czech girls.... much more PRO and nicer for hanging out in general., italians PRETEND that they are this and that.... but then again, that depends.

[Mutt]

Czech girls have the best reputation for professionalism - different culture, American kids are spoiled and lazy, even lower middle class kids. from what I know or have been told the girls there are often turning over some of their earnings to their families - in the US/Canada the money is gone as quick as they make it - all spent on self gratification.

[Eriic]

Sluts, sluts and Slutty Sluts.............

[ContentSHOOTER]

I have shot in the US and in Europe and with out a doubt I would say the models in Europe are heads above anything in the USA. Reason being they are on time, bring what they need to and well they are much hotter than those in the US in my opinion. Girls in the US, when I did shoot there would generally never be on time, most had attitudes and some would actually count the number of shots you would take. When I shot in the states I would tell the agent I would take $50.00 from them if they were an hour late and and additional $50.00 per half hour there after..... Yes some did not even bother to show up so I would deduct that from the agent in terms of booking fees...

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Enemator

Danish girls are fuckgin stunning. Sad to hear that, I always wanted to go and shoot there. How are they for lingerie type shoots?

I think for lingerie they would be fine. Just nothing else.

[nikki99]

I voted!!

[Paul Markham]

Most of the answers are about them turning up on time and their attitude.

For those who have worked with different nationalities, which ones would you say were the horniest. The most likely to get into the work, enjoy themselves and give a performance that's real?

Do you think US girls are more likely to do it for real than say CZ girls?

[GregE]

I've found that American girls are nearly always easy to work with.... when the rent is due.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by GregE

I've found that American girls are nearly always easy to work with.... when the rent is due.

Good point.

One of the things I did not appreciate when I first came to Czech was how little the girls needed the money and how little they appreciated what it would buy. When I first came here $300 was a lot of money and for students and unemployed girls it was a fortune. But they were living on $100 a month and did not need $300 for a days work. They would of liked it but did not need it.

So the financial pressure of them paying the rent or any bills was removed. The work had to be something they would do and enjoy. Today prices and living standars have sky rocketed and the girls have more bills to pay.

It's got it's plus and minus points.

[SpicyM]

How do you find the girls in foreign coutries? Do you advertise in newspapers, on the net or use agencies?? Or just meet them on the street?

I cant seem to find a good way to search for them when I want to make my own content.

[InternetIsForPorn]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

How do you find the girls in foreign coutries? Do you advertise in newspapers, on the net or use agencies?? Or just meet them on the street?

I cant seem to find a good way to search for them when I want to make my own content.

You hit up people like me that help you with that.

I have to agree that Czech girls are very good to work with.

Also girls from Serbia and post-soviet countries are OK most of the time.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

How do you find the girls in foreign coutries? Do you advertise in newspapers, on the net or use agencies?? Or just meet them on the street?

I cant seem to find a good way to search for them when I want to make my own content.

We use all these methods. Just did a casting today and you should of seen what turned up. 3 very plain Janes. But I think we probably will clear $1500 from the day. You need to know how to shoot them and what to shoot of them. Plus where to sell it.

If you need girls in Czech hit me up and I will help you.

[Paul Markham]

How does the saying go?

You have to kiss a lot of frogs to find a Prince.

Seems you have to do lots of casting to find a Princess as well.







None of these girls really wanted to do anything but solo girl and one was adamant she would not do video.

I'm doing another casting Wednesday, who wants to come with me?

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by InternetIsForPorn

You hit up people like me that help you with that.

I have to agree that Czech girls are very good to work with.

Also girls from Serbia and post-soviet countries are OK most of the time.

I am from central Europe and I cant seem to find a nice girl willing to do this.

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

We use all these methods. Just did a casting today and you should of seen what turned up. 3 very plain Janes. But I think we probably will clear $1500 from the day. You need to know how to shoot them and what to shoot of them. Plus where to sell it.

If you need girls in Czech hit me up and I will help you.

hey many thanks, but I would prefer creating it myself, you now I want the amateur style movies, not professional ones..

I want girls that are amateurs as well, dont need models.. I would ask them directly but I cant find a site for this, I mean some advertisement website where I would put my offer.. or maybe a site like onemodelplace.com for this region.. tried some chat but most of them are not interested in this.

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Good point.

One of the things I did not appreciate when I first came to Czech was how little the girls needed the money and how little they appreciated what it would buy. When I first came here $300 was a lot of money and for students and unemployed girls it was a fortune. But they were living on $100 a month and did not need $300 for a days work. They would of liked it but did not need it.

So the financial pressure of them paying the rent or any bills was removed. The work had to be something they would do and enjoy. Today prices and living standars have sky rocketed and the girls have more bills to pay.

It's got it's plus and minus points.

Something is true and something not...

If you want to say that their living situation is much harder these days, its not true at all.

I live in the neighbourhood and I agree the fees and prices are much higher now but the average salary has increased dramatically as well + the unemployment was lowered a lot so now every bitch here has no problem to get a job and they are getting spoiled since they have so many opportunities - so compared to the past, I remember people complaining about lack of job opportunities, low salaries and I bet many more chicks would do this back then compared to present. They are so spoiled now, shame We need to move more on the east

[pornguy]

Even my wife shows up late for me.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

hey many thanks, but I would prefer creating it myself, you now I want the amateur style movies, not professional ones..

I want girls that are amateurs as well, dont need models.. I would ask them directly but I cant find a site for this, I mean some advertisement website where I would put my offer.. or maybe a site like onemodelplace.com for this region.. tried some chat but most of them are not interested in this.

I have more amateurs turning up for castings than professionals. In fact on a casting I would say 75% of the girls get no further than the casting because they are for us too amateur. Or too plain. Look at what turned up yesterday.

As for shooting amateur style, well you can shoot or we can. Or if you insist on it being the real McCoy amateur I can grab a guy off the street to shoot it. Or we can get her boyfriend or another models boyfriend to shoot it. Shooting amateur is a breeze. The reason we don't shoot it most of the time is the money it makes FOR US.

Hit me up on ICQ, but not for two hours as I'm taking Eva to the hospital.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

Something is true and something not...

If you want to say that their living situation is much harder these days, its not true at all.

Did not say that at all.

Originally Posted by SpicyM

I live in the neighbourhood and I agree the fees and prices are much higher now but the average salary has increased dramatically as well + the unemployment was lowered a lot so now every bitch here has no problem to get a job and they are getting spoiled since they have so many opportunities - so compared to the past, I remember people complaining about lack of job opportunities, low salaries and I bet many more chicks would do this back then compared to present. They are so spoiled now, shame We need to move more on the east

The average salary has increased. But that would be managers, secretaries, etc and not 18 to 22 year old girls who need money. In 30 years I don't think I've had many on an average salary. ;)

I shoot mostly students, low wage earners and unemployed. They are still on a low wage, higher than ten years ago, but they are walking past designer shops and they want to be well dressed. ;)

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Did not say that at all.



The average salary has increased. But that would be managers, secretaries, etc and not 18 to 22 year old girls who need money. In 30 years I don't think I've had many on an average salary. ;)

I shoot mostly students, low wage earners and unemployed. They are still on a low wage, higher than ten years ago, but they are walking past designer shops and they want to be well dressed. ;)

yes, true the young chicks 18 - 19 that still go to school are something different.. they cant get a job yet and some of them really need (or want money.. but then many chicks that would be suitable (meaning nice) will better try normal modeling or some non nude posing :-( They will hardly get into some fetish.

As for the average salary well that also depends on where do they live, which city. In our capital there are tens of shops (in the shopping centers) offering a job all the time.. My friend worked there as a seller getting around $800 monthly for sitting on the chair and browsing the net all day since not many people went to the shop, and that is a good money for a seller in my country.

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I have more amateurs turning up for castings than professionals. In fact on a casting I would say 75% of the girls get no further than the casting because they are for us too amateur. Or too plain. Look at what turned up yesterday.

As for shooting amateur style, well you can shoot or we can. Or if you insist on it being the real McCoy amateur I can grab a guy off the street to shoot it. Or we can get her boyfriend or another models boyfriend to shoot it. Shooting amateur is a breeze. The reason we don't shoot it most of the time is the money it makes FOR US.

Hit me up on ICQ, but not for two hours as I'm taking Eva to the hospital.

I will contact you if I get some time.. The stuff I want to shoot would be some fetish oriented, I want to make my own site. I am offering them about $100 - 130 per hour.. I think its enough isnt it?

[Manowar]

the professional Euro girls

Nella etc

[StariaDaniel]

In my experience, czech and russian girls are the easiest to work with, made good experiences with other east european countries too. German and Dutch girls are also 80% great to work with. The few south european i've worked with, well, at least they're more complicated.

But anyway, had maybe 1-2 of 100 who were really shitty to work with. Kinda good % i think :D

Also - you get what you pay for - i guess every girl is working better for a fair price. If you pay them 20$/hour don't expect wonders :D

Also, semi-pro girls are harder to deal with than with amateurs or real pro's. I guess that's mainly because most of them think they're the next supermodel of the year but in reality they're just a girl-next-door with some more cash in the pockets and a more expensive stylist :D

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

yes, true the young chicks 18 - 19 that still go to school are something different.. they cant get a job yet and some of them really need (or want money.. but then many chicks that would be suitable (meaning nice) will better try normal modeling or some non nude posing :-( They will hardly get into some fetish.

As for the average salary well that also depends on where do they live, which city. In our capital there are tens of shops (in the shopping centers) offering a job all the time.. My friend worked there as a seller getting around $800 monthly for sitting on the chair and browsing the net all day since not many people went to the shop, and that is a good money for a seller in my country.

Girls with experience will get $800 in a good shop but it's not normal for most of the country or shops. But $800 does not go far here. And not the sort of job most 18 to 22 year olds without experience get.

Where are you?

I will contact you if I get some time.. The stuff I want to shoot would be some fetish oriented, I want to make my own site. I am offering them about $100 - 130 per hour.. I think its enough isnt it?

Should be enough, depends on how many hours, what the girls are doing and how good/busy the girl is.

Some harcore girls here will not turn up for less than $500 a scene. They're in demand and the sites and producers that want this level will pay them.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by Enemator

A lot of Brittish girls are full of it. Attitude here, arrogance there. Excuses, dead grannies, moms in hospitals etc.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by StariaDaniel

Also, semi-pro girls are harder to deal with than with amateurs or real pro's. I guess that's mainly because most of them think they're the next supermodel of the year but in reality they're just a girl-next-door with some more cash in the pockets and a more expensive stylist :D

This is SO very fucking true

[MasterBlow]

I vote for russians

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Girls with experience will get $800 in a good shop but it's not normal for most of the country or shops. But $800 does not go far here. And not the sort of job most 18 to 22 year olds without experience get.

Where are you?

I am from Slovakia, thats a salary in the capital, sure its different in other towns. That friend worked in a shopping center selling luxurious stuff for ladies but there are lots of such shops. She was 22 or 23, not that great looking just average girl. She had no experience at all. It depends but I say they have a lot of options now.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Should be enough, depends on how many hours, what the girls are doing and how good/busy the girl is.

Some harcore girls here will not turn up for less than $500 a scene. They're in demand and the sites and producers that want this level will pay them.

I think 2 - 3 hours a day would be enough, once or twice a week. Those movies are not hardcore, toys only + some special fetish maybe, my fantasy is huge

Just dont know where to find them :-) looks like the money dont seduce them enough..

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by MasterBlow

I vote for russians

russians are beautiful and natural.. i love them

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by StariaDaniel

If you pay them 20$/hour don't expect wonders :D

$20/hour is that even possible??? Maybe some non nude shots but I doubt. As I said, I cant seem to find a chick (not beautiful one just a normal girl!) that would do that for $100 and this is the central europe region... looks like they are getting so fucking spoiled here

[d-null]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

How does the saying go?

You have to kiss a lot of frogs to find a Prince.

Seems you have to do lots of casting to find a Princess as well.







None of these girls really wanted to do anything but solo girl and one was adamant she would not do video.

I'm doing another casting Wednesday, who wants to come with me?

is there a shortage of good hairstylists there?

[Kudles]

All girls are crazy so I don't know

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by StariaDaniel

Also, semi-pro girls are harder to deal with than with amateurs or real pro's. I guess that's mainly because most of them think they're the next supermodel of the year but in reality they're just a girl-next-door with some more cash in the pockets and a more expensive stylist :D

There are very few real professionals in porn modeling today. I'm comparing them to the girls from 10 to 20 years ago. Then the girl would turn up on time, with her suitcase of clothes all neatly folded and ready, her make up and would on a performance that would knock your eyes out.

Most of todays "professionals" would get the sack if they worked like they do in any other profession. Including the check out at a super market. Last month my mate who shoots top end glamor porn booked two "professionals". They turned up late, said they had booked the return coach in 5 hours and then put on a performance about as exciting as watching paint dry.

The problem is with the sponsors and DVD producers.When my mate phoned the client to ask if he could send them home without money he said no. All most want is pretty faces, some good clips and stills for the tour, affiliates or DVD box cover. The action inside can be what ever because the sale is made. 10 years ago if a girl turned up late she was in danger of finding I had gone home. This made them know who was boss. I was not doing anything other shooters did not do.

You get the staff you deserve.

[Paul Markham]

I expected a few more votes for US girls. If only to push sites with US girls.

[tony286]

so far in the few states we have shot in Ky would be first and then FL.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by tony404

so far in the few states we have shot in Ky would be first and then FL.

Do you see a big difference State to State?

I have worked in NY and LA as a model, well over 20 years ago and noticed little difference. Worked as a shooter in LA and hated it.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

I am from Slovakia, thats a salary in the capital, sure its different in other towns. That friend worked in a shopping center selling luxurious stuff for ladies but there are lots of such shops. She was 22 or 23, not that great looking just average girl. She had no experience at all. It depends but I say they have a lot of options now.

I think 2 - 3 hours a day would be enough, once or twice a week. Those movies are not hardcore, toys only + some special fetish maybe, my fantasy is huge

Just dont know where to find them :-) looks like the money dont seduce them enough..

Always found Slovakia a dead area for getting models. Even Bratislava where it should be easier. In Brno, 150 KM away it's easier. Most good Slovak girls who want to earn money in porn are in Prague. Hit me up if you need girls.

[ElliotJames]

Americans, then Eastern Euopeans followed by Brits.

[Paul Markham]

At last we have some one voting for US girls. I wonder where they are and where else they have shot.

[Big Red Machine]

I think most people always think the grass is greener on the other side

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Big Red Machine

I think most people always think the grass is greener on the other side

Very true. There is an element of you making the grass green as well.