The guy was bitching just because Ken weighted 206 instead of 205 lbs as agreed in their contract. WTF is that.
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sounds like fear......
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an agreement is an agreement, ken knew for a LONG time that he needed to be 205
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tito is a bitch but ken should be at weightmy sig caught gonoherpasyphilaids and died
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so what happens when you don't make weight?Icq: 31706665Comment
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Worst part is that it was his turn to weight, he weighted in at 206.25 himself. more than Ken.Comment
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He kept saying that the contract says 205 not 206.Originally posted by Rice_MasterComment
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tito is gonna hurt the old manComment
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You're allowed to be 1 pound over. It was pretty funny that Tito didn't make weight after bitching at Ken though
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Yup, plus it's not like one or two pounds extra makes a big difference in a match. I think he just wanted to bitch for the sake of bitching.Originally posted by Martin3You're allowed to be 1 pound over. It was pretty funny that Tito didn't make weight after bitching at Ken thoughComment
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Yeah, they'll both probably be 210-215lbs or a little more by tonight anyways.Originally posted by Alex from Montreal264-543-302Comment
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I hope tito gets his ass handed to him for that bullshitComment
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Tito is going to spank Shamrock - he should have stayed retired. MMA is not an old man's sport.
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I dare you to say that to his face.
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he's trying to promote the fight. nothing more nothing less. i beat shamrock and tito are friends. this is a marketing ploy to get more viewers. look at the name of the ufc even and than watch andrei and tim at the weigh ins at ufc.comi luv mainstreamComment
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btw, tito is going to smash shamrock. all the roids in the world can't help him.i luv mainstreamComment
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I think they truly hate one another from what I saw in the UFC TV series they were both on.Originally posted by QuaWee
Toto is an hypocrite IMO. He should have first made sure he was at 205 before running is mouth and making a fool out of himself in public.Comment
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Originally posted by QuaWee
there both on roids...Comment
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How do you know? Shamrock admitted to being on roid in his early UFC and Pancrase days in his book. He looks about the same size now. Where's your proof?Originally posted by LilBroi luv mainstreamComment
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Yea, I agree. I am not disputing thatOriginally posted by Alex from Montreali luv mainstreamComment
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Tito is a little bitch, but Shamrock ain't the guy to teach him a lesson...he's going to get his ass kicked.See Sig...oh wait.Comment
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UFC doesnt do drug tests...will never knowComment
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Doesnt the Nevada state athletic commission test the athletes or is it soley up to the UFC?Comment
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Shamcock is like a 4.5 to 1 underdogComment
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agreed about the promoting. though i do think they hate each otherOriginally posted by QuaWeeComment
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Originally posted by LilBro
The NSAC tests randomly and at every title fight.264-543-302Comment
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Originally posted by Martin3
i did not know that....i have just gotten into the UFC and ultimate fighter etc...these guys r just monsters, figured some were on juice to get that big....Comment
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Are you stupid ? When you gotta loose weight, you gotta loose weight. 205 is the MAX, not 206Originally posted by rayadp05Comment
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he had a valid point.. this is crazy... I hope there will be a re-match and he comes at 204 lbsOriginally posted by Alex from MontrealEnjoy Bucks - Enjoy Bucks
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Originally posted by RS-MEDIA
Actually NOT a valid point since the 205 rules allow for a 1lb overage. Thats why when Tito was 206 1/4 lbs he had to go sweat off that extra 1/4lb. and came back at 206.
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tito is a bitch , and i would kick him in the teeth ( if he was passed out cold and had no chance to retaliate
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1lb shouldnt matter, but the contract says 205.
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Originally posted by Nessa85
Actually the contract says 205 with a 1lb average allowance. Thats why BOTH fighters were at 206.
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I've been hit by a piece of 1lb meat .. it can knock you the fuck out.
But seriously, what a bitch ....Comment
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Originally posted by Mike AI
Yeah . . . I have never seen either fight before tonight, but as soon as they put them both in the ring and showed their vitals, I knew exactly who would win.Comment
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Try eating fruits and vegetables surely you'll lose weight.Comment
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he has every right to be pissed off!! it's all about numbers and the power in numbers, and if he was at 206 then that is considered a breach of contract no matter how big or how little the difference!Comment
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he has a point guys...Comment
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YES I agree Tito is a bitch!!!
But this thread is getting funnier and funnier with each post!
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Tonight UFC 61: Bitter Rivals in Las Vegas did not disappoint... unless of course you were hoping Tito Ortiz vs. Ken Shamrock would last a few rounds. In that case, you just may have been a little disappointed. It seemed the fight almost ended the moment Bruce Buffer was finished announcing the the start of the fight. The bad blood was evident in the eyes of both fighters, but it would take a mere 1:18 seconds into the opening round for the fight to end in favor of Tito Ortiz.
At the start of the round, Shamrock leaped into attack mode throwing a flurry of punches. Tito answered back with- punches of his own. In a clinch up standing against the fence, Tito showed superior strength by picking up Shamrock
and putting Shamrock to the canvas on his back.
It didn't take long after that. With Shamrock's head and neck up against the bottom of the fence of the Octagon, Ortiz threw 4 to 5 elbows to the head that went unanswered by Shamrock. Shamrock was defenseless and the Ref stepped in and called a halt to the fight.
Some in the Audience booed the Ref's decision to halt the bout.
Shortly after the fight, Ortiz told Randy Couture (who was working the mic) that he would give Shamrock a rematch if Shamrock wanted one.hatisblack at yahoo.comComment
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I dont understand the stopage, please explain the difference between the 10 secs Shamrock was on his back and the entire first round of the Griffen vs Ortiz fight. That fight was a work, very obvious imo. The entire event was terible, not a single decent fight.Comment
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Ever been repeatedly elbowed in the face by an angry man trying to kill you? My guess is no. After the first 2 elbows his hands fell and were no longer protecting his face. Which is where Tito was hitting. (alot of people seem to have missed it.) As for the Griffen fight yes he got hit a lot but never stopped his defending. That is the key.Originally posted by sleeves
If he's not blocking or actively moving to improve position, then the ref has no choice. Fight over.
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I'm not convinced, different refs continually let fights go on longer. McCarthy in particular, he reffed Ortiz vs. Griffin. Flailing your hands in the air isn't an intelligent defense and that's what Griffin did. He also reffed the Leben vs. Silva fight a few weeks ago when Leben appeared to be knocked out and he let it go. I recorded the fight and just rewatched it in slow motion, his hands never fell to the side. He was flailing, did the elbows land, yes. But there was no damage done. Griffin defended the same way as Ken the difference was Ken was pinned against the cage. It was a bad stoppage.Comment
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it needed to be stopped, i agree..... he was defenseless..Comment
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I just love all these noob TUF fans. They know better than the ref, and if the disagree with the call, it's a work.Originally posted by sleeves
Lance is an actual MMA fighter, and I agree completely with him, and the call.
You have no idea what damage a 220 to 230lbs man slamming an elbow repeatedly into your face can do. Yes, 220 to 230, that's how much weight they gain back after their weigh in at 205lbs.
KEN DID NOT DEFEND AT ALL. Good stoppage.
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Im 235 myself, Im well aware of the damage that can happen. If you think the fight wouldnt have gone on longer with JM reffing you are the fool.Comment
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I also did not say he didnt defend, I asked what was the difference between his deffence and Griffins. They bothed flailed their hands, so how is one different from the other.Comment
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Are you dense? That fight would have ended just as quick with Big John as it did with Herb Dean. Both are the best at reffing and taking care of the fighters.Originally posted by sleeves
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