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Saakashvili & G.
Saakashvili: Is Georgia a great nation?
G.: Yes!
Saakashvili: Do we have a strong army and economy?
G.: Yes! Yes!
Saakashvili: We will win Osetia,Abhasia and Russia!!
G.: Yes! Yes! Oh! Yes! Suck, Misha, Suck! Don't stop.

PR5 site http://www.bushorchimp.com/

I'd like to beg a pardon about Russian guys I might have abused in this thread. I guess basing my judgments using some scam cased I had and implying it nation in general was not correct. Sorry.

I also wanted beg a pardon to you for calling you an Ukrainian one when I was referring to Ukrainian waffen-SS crimes. I have confused your nickname with Adultmix, and that's my personal fault. Sorry.

тупые американцы понимают одесский юмор ? omg
ps: +1000 to JM-cj's sig

На одесском рынке:
- Скажите, чем вы кормили свою курицу?
- А зачем это вам?
- Я тоже хотела бы так похудеть.

Some good russian reading for ya'll
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_apartment_bombings

This version was discussed in Russian media during a few years. No actual proof so far. Wikipedia is not a good source for such kind of information. It's like these:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_conspiracy_theories
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roswell_UFO_incident
etc..

These are just so-called conspiracy theories. "Theory" is a keyword there :2 cents:

Russia masses naval force opposite Georgia?s third sensitive region, Ajaria

DEBKAfile Exclusive Report

August 12, 2008, 11:41 PM (GMT+02:00)
Georgian president addresses mass rally in Tbilisi

Georgian president addresses mass rally in Tbilisi

While the world?s attention was fixed on the Russian-Georgian contest over two breakaway regions of South Ossetia and Abkhazia, DEBKAfile?s exclusive military sources reveal that Russia has massed a fleet of warships and marine forces opposite the Gerogia's semi-autonomous Black Sea region of Ajaria.

Moscow is preparing to punish what it regards as Georgian president Mikhail Saakashvili?s further provocations by occupying this coastal strip on Georgia?s southwestern border with Turkey.

The appearance of Ukraine?s president Viktor Yushchenko alongside Saakashvili, leaders of the pro-Western Orange and Rose Revolutions, at a huge national rally outside the Georgian parliament in Tbilisi Tuesday night, Aug. 12, may well be seen by the Kremlin as over the top. It came hours after Russian President Dimitry Medvedev?s gesture to the European mediation bid of ordering the Russian military operation in Georgia halted there and then.

Half of Ajaria?s ethnically Georgian population professes Islam, in contrast to the country?s Christian majority. The other half is Russian.

Ajarian has come to mean a Georgian Muslim.

The Russian Black Sea buildup is deployed opposite the Ajurian capital of Batumi, an important port for the shipment of oil from Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan. Its oil refinery handles Caspian oil from Azerbaijan.

When Saakashvili was elected president five years ago, the region?s leaders refused to recognize his authority and maintained close ties with Moscow up until May 2004 when, after Ajurians demonstrated against Tbilisi, he ordered them to obey the Georgian constitution and disarm.

Russia maintained a military base at Batumi which it agreed to close by November 2007.

DEBKAfile?s sources report that by recovering the base, Moscow will not only punish the Georgian president, but also profit from the turmoil of the past week in three ways:

1. A third semi-autonomous province will be hacked off Georgian territory after the loss of South Ossetia and Abkhazia.

2. Russia will gain a strategic Black Sea foothold at Turkey?s back door.

3. It will also control a gateway to Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Azerbaijan and Armenia.

His critics ought to give George W. a little credit. He famously looked into Vladimir Putin's eyes and saw a soul. That's more than anybody else has ever found there.

We all learn lessons. Harry S. Truman, everybody's favorite no-nonsense president, met Stalin for the first time and thought he could "do business" with him. The Cold War followed soon afterward. Tyrants charm the unwary.

Mr. Putin, photographed with George W. at the Olympics, looked even more sour and dour than usual, his cold viper's eyes hooded and brooding, with the promise of malice and malevolence. George W. wasn't smiling, either. They clearly weren't talking about the remarkable performance of the American swimmers. George W. confided later that he was "firm with Vladimir Putin," and told him that the Russian invasion of Georgia "is unacceptable." This followed Dick Cheney's warning that the aggression "must not go unanswered."

Such talk often sounds tougher than it really is. Given the givens, the tough talk is probably all the answer Mr. Putin's regime should fear. President George H.W. Bush obviously meant it in that different time and place when he told Saddam Hussein that his seizure of Kuwait "will not stand." Georgia is an ally of the West, having sent 2,000 soldiers to Iraq, but nobody expects to see American tanks and bombers answer Russian tanks and bombers to settle a family feud. George W. is looking to exit stage right and doesn't have the bombers and tanks available to answer the Russians, even if he wanted to, and Vladimir Putin knows it. The "strong letter of protest" is about all the old KGB hand has to fear.

Brutal as it is, the Russian invasion didn't surprise the observant. The message to the Georgian president, Mikhail Saakashvili, was clear enough: Forget any idea of taking Georgia into NATO. The Russians had been massing hundreds of tanks and light armor on the border for months, waiting for the moment. Now George W. is busy in Iraq and Afghanistan, and Iran is unfinished business. Flush with oil riches and buoyed on dreams of restoring Soviet glory, with the prospect of an inexperienced peacenik president at the threshold of the White House, Mr. Putin found his moment.

Vladimir Putin

Suddenly the front pages of American newspapers blossomed with headlines that might have been retrieved from the files of 1864: Georgia invaded by foreign soldiers burning its cities and looting its farms, as if the ghost of Father Abraham had emerged from the crypt to dispatch Sherman and his firebugs once more. The irony was compounded over the weekend when the Georgian president moved his Web site to an Internet server in Atlanta after a server in Tbilisi, the other Georgian capital, was trashed by Mr. Putin's government.

The Russians appeared yesterday to have moved past a mere warning to forget joining NATO. With the capture of the city of Gori in central Georgia, the Russians threatened the capital of Tbilisi. Mr. Putin's larger goal of returning Georgia to its subservient role as a satellite "republic" was now within his reach.

"Basically, it's been Chechnya all over again," says George H. Wittman, chairman of the National Institute for Public Policy, writing in the American Spectator, "and that is exactly the type of indiscriminate warfare at which the Russian army is so adept. Their job is not so much a matter of defeating an opposing army as it is inflicting maximum destruction on all who oppose them, civilian and military."

It was deja vu all over again. "The Russians will be here tomorrow," a villager in Tkviav tells a correspondent for the London Times. "They want to show us and the world how powerful they are. Tomorrow it will be Ukraine and nobody in the West is doing anything to stop them." A farmer tells another correspondent: "Why won't America and NATO help us? If they won't help us, why did we help them in Iraq?"

If not the Americans, who? America the Beautiful has been transformed into America the Bully, if you listen to the likes of Barack Obama and the glassy-eyed cult crying for mindless "change." But not if you listen to the pleading voices of the brutalized with no one else to turn to. The pitiful cries for help - "Why won't America help us?" - would break a banker's heart.

? Wesley Pruden is editor emeritus of The Washington Times.

Russia angered by Israeli drone sale to Georgia
TEL AVIV ? Israel has acknowledged the sale of unmanned aerial vehicles and other Israeli security support to Georgia which has prompted complaints and threats from Moscow.

Officials said the Defense Ministry approved the sale of several tactical UAV systems to Georgia in 2007. They said Georgia has used the unidentified UAVs for border reconnaissance missions.

Georgia has credited Israeli military assistance after claiming the destruction of at least 11 Russian combat aircraft and 50 main battle tanks.

"Israel should be proud of its military, which trained Georgian soldiers," Georgian Reintegration Minister Temur Yakobshvili told Israel Army radio on Aug 10.

"We killed 60 Russian soldiers just yesterday. The Russians have lost more than 50 tanks, and we have shot down 11 of their planes. They have sustained enormous damage in terms of manpower."

Russia has complained of the Israeli UAV sale to Georgia. In May 2008, the Russian Army shot down an Israeli UAV along the Georgian border. The UAV was not identified.

The Russian demand for Israel to stop military sales came amid the intensification of fighting with Georgia and carried with it the implicit threat of increased aid for Israel's enemies.

Israel has countered with complaints about Russia's military exports to Iran and Syria. Moscow, like Israel, has responded by insisting it sells only defensive systems.

Meanwhile, Israel has been divided over whether to continue weapons sales to Georgia, Middle East Newsline reported.

Officials said the debate pits the Defense Ministry against the Foreign Ministry. They said the Foreign Ministry has advocated a suspension of all weapons sales and support services to Georgia while the Defense Ministry sought to continue exports.

"The question is whether there should be a temporary suspension of arms exports to Georgia during the war with Russia," an official said.

In addition to UAVs and other defensive systems, industry sources said Israeli firms have also sold rockets as well as night-vision systems to Tbilisi.

On Aug. 10, the Israeli Defense Ministry, which has overseen an estimated $200 million in military exports to Georgia, convened senior staffers to review the Foreign Ministry recommendation. Officials said the ministry decided to continue to approve exports for non-lethal systems for military and security applications in Georgia.

"The Defense Ministry has been conducting a very wise policy," Amos Gilad, director of the Defense Ministry's political-military bureau, said. "It has taken all factors into account. Defensive systems have been sent, and they have not upset the strategic balance."

Moscow has also asserted that Israeli trainers were advising the Georgian military on how to shoot down Russian combat aircraft and disable main battle tanks.

In December 2007, Israel decided to end the sale of offensive military systems to Georgia, but did not cancel any contracts. Officials said Israel came under pressure from Russia, who warned that such sales would be deemed a hostile act. France and the United States have been leading arms exporters to Georgia.

Still, Russia has pressed Israel for a complete military embargo on Georgia. Officials said the Israeli Foreign Ministry was concerned that Moscow could retaliate by selling advanced weapons to Iran and Syria.

"The Foreign Ministry, and this includes the minister, does not want to give Russia a pretext for selling advanced systems to Iran and Syria," the official said.

For its part, Israel has warned Russia not to export the S-300PMU-2 air and missile defense system to Teheran. Western intelligence sources said S-300 components have already arrived in Iran and were expected to be assembled into operating systems in early 2009.

hey, Slav. i read that too. I read Debka everyday ;-)

likewise, i remember someone posting it on oprano years ago and its been part of my daily routine ever since. Their Middle east military strategies / speculations / opinions just dont get any better than this.

Устроим геноцид английского языка на гфу.ком :thumbsup

LOL, good one :thumbsup

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say what

sweet, thx :)

I'm very surprised that lots of people think that Russia is trying to conquer Georgia. Russia is only protecting people of South Ossetia from Georgia's military forces. Saakashvili was the first to attack South Ossetia and he killed more than 2000! innocent people (including children) with the methods of Hitler. Saakashvili would kill much more if Russia woudn't stop them. The aim of Saakashvili was to make these people (the citizens of South Ossetia) go away from this area.

Fuck the Russians, they fucked up all Eastern Europe ...

Google.com was made by Russian guy too :)
OMG!!! Russians fucked ALL WORD!!!!
And thats nice!

Whatever chmo cyberxxx says here's what Ukrainian people think:

Как Вы оцениваете события, происходящие на территории Грузии?
13 августа, 09:24

Это агрессия со стороны России
62.7% (5324)

Это агрессия со стороны Грузии
19.3% (1635)

Это право осетин и абхазов на самозащиту
4% (343)

Это провокация Запада
10.3% (873)

Затрудняюсь ответить
3.7% (316)

Проголосовало: 8491


Fuck Russian Invaders. You are pisdec to the world, chmornia.

This is Russian Agression :
62.7% (5324)

Is it from tbilisi.gov.com?

At CNN.COM Was
Это агрессия со стороны Грузии 87%

See the poll, moron, read in between lines, Russia wont have any chance to become a civilised country. You are just Russian basement shit and your propaganda screaming wont change a thing.

You ambicious ass is so big you want to bite a worlds attention by all means. Here's what you got, suck my loli-pop!

The poll is :

Опрос
Как Вы оцениваете события, происходящие на территории Грузии?
13 августа, 09:34

Это агрессия со стороны России
62.7% (5357)

Это агрессия со стороны Грузии
19.3% (1648)

Это право осетин и абхазов на самозащиту
4% (346)

Это провокация Запада
10.3% (880)

Затрудняюсь ответить
3.7% (316)

Проголосовало: 8547

No, I have taken that from:
http://korrespondent.net/ ( right column ) ( a Ukrainian newspaper )

don't be a jerk, ah, i forgot, you are a jerk.

So what? You have posted it two times and asked me to look at it. I have looked. So what?

Adultmix, I didn't get your message. Who cares what you think? Who gives a shit about your poll? Russia has protected its people. Saakashvili's ass was kicked and he will be sued or killed because he is a war criminal. NATO hasn't helped him and let him know they don't give a shit about him as well as they don't give a shit about Ukraine. You are small countries w/o resources, so you will be used by NATO any time and left in your won shit - learn the Georgian lesson. Enjoy ;)

94% of Russians support Russian peace keeping operation in Georgia. So no one gives a shit about your poll. The Russian persistent MUST protect Russian citizens and of course he don't have to listen a pool made by Nazi SS grandsons. Relax - no one here gives a flying fuck about you are your country. You may continue jerking on your grandpa's medals which he got for a Jewish genocide, and STFU :)

FYI:
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/...Hqcaa/340x.jpg
Putin and Bush a few days ago. Do you think these guys will start a war between each other just to help some Georgia or Ukraine? Usual Americans even have no idea there are such countries on the map LOL

Once again: a useful whore yesterday, a used whore today, a useless whore tomorrow. This is how the USA see Georgia and Ukraine. So relax :)

P.S. If you don't trust me (course you not, because a Nazi will never trust to a Russian), so you can ask the American and EU people here. Will they fight against Russia to protect Georgia or Ukraine. I believe you well be surprised a lot :)

пиздюшок, ты куда гребешь-то,.. здешнее сообщество уже оценило тебя как знатного жополиза, акстись.

Ok, here we go: http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=847602

slushai' menya predyrok, ya Ykrainec toge i vas vcex nada v zapadnoi' ykraine ybrati' vmecte c yobanum prezidentom i evo yebanoi' orange revolution... nekto nehochit idti v nato, a vu pidarasu vce za nato kak prostitytki

Considering you guys jail or kill dissenting opinion in your country, it's no surprise to see a poll that skewed. Kind of like Saddam getting 99% of the vote back in the day.

There certainly won't be any demonstrations in front of the Kremlin about an "illegal war". "No blood for oil"?

Russian tanks > Uppity Former Republic

I'm toooooooooo bored to hear these stupid tales. Really.

who is the idiot here?

Russia took over your country and wiped out a considerable portion of the population. I would think you wouldn't be so quick to forget that, particularly in the middle of a conversation about Russia invading Georgia. Joining NATO would at least ensure that never happens again. It's not like you can do anything to stop them from fucking with you if they wanted to. It's not like the Ukraine has even come remotely close to getting their shit together in the last decade and a 1/2 in terms of reigning in corruption, normalizing the business/legal climate etc. I have to wire massive amounts of money to the Ukraine every month and something that simple is just as ignorant, retarded and difficult today as it was 10 years ago.

Everyone is always so full of this wonderful sense of national pride until someone shows up and starts slaughtering people and you can't do anything about. The President of Georgia has/had a lot of support to go after Ossetia... lot of good that did him. The world is now watching Georgia get pounded into oblivion...

but hey... at least they didn't "join NATO like a bunch of prostitutes" right?
:2 cents:

Adultmix you son of a bitch. :)

Very easy. First of all: Georgia has no oil (i.e. every country has a few drops of it even Japen I believe), so why the hell Russians will scream "No blood for oil"? Now about "illegal war". Russian peacekeepers were in Georgia accroding to the international agreement which is 100% LEGAL. They were killed by regular Georgian army. And now Russia just dois it job: protecting its people in South Ossetia and its peace keepers which is also 100% LEGAL. So why Russian should scream "illegal war"? Sorry, but I can't get your point.

Following your point there certainly should be lots of demonstrations in California like: "take a way this fuckin' sum from our sky!" and "no palms in out city!"

Sounds stupid? Yeah, now you may understand how stupid sounds your post above to Russians.

Believe me if Russians have the problem THEY REALLY care, they don't bother to go on demonstrations. E.g. the case when Russian government has forbidden all left-sided cars. This "law" was been re-called very soon because of mass demonstrations of Russian car-owners. There are lots of other cases like that. Russians are always ready to protest but ONLY IF THEY CARE about something, or if they CONSIDER SOMETHING WRONG. A war in Georgia is not such a case - believe me. if you ask the ppl on the streets, 90 of 100 will say they support it, but if you ask do they really care, I guess only few will say "YES".

Guys, I'm in Russian now but not you. Believe me - I know the situation here much better than you.

Trotsky and Stalin were not Russian. Russians didn't adopt Marxism, Jews did.