Business Thread / Question For Content Buyers:::

[DeanCapture]

Hi gang, I have a couple of questions for you content buyers. If you'd rather contact me via email instead of leaving a comment here, that would be cool: deancapture "at" yahoo.com.

1) - When you buy non-exclusive content, is it important to you to be able to use that material in tgp & movie galleries? Some content providers prohibit the use of their material in these galleries unless you pay an additional fee - typically twice the regular rate. Do you want to use images in your galleries that hundreds of others are using in theirs? Would you still buy it if you were restricted to only use the material in your members area? What's your thoughts on this?

2) - Are you buying SD (standard def) or HD (high def) video for your members area?

2) - Regarding HD video...as a content buyer, how do you like your video delivered to you? What format? What size? Do you prefer to get your scenes already edited, color corrected, enhanced and rendered out or do you prefer to receive the raw footage?
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Some of you may know that I am about to start producing high-end glam/babe material for a very limited number of webmasters on a semi-exclusive basis (CaptureGirls.com). Some of the webmasters that I've been chatting with have expressed disappointment and concern over the quality of the material that is available from other suppliers at this time. In my opinion, this leaves a large hole in an area of the market that I think we can fill. If you would like more info about my program, hit me up via email: deancapture "at" yahoo.com

I want to leave you with a couple of recent shots of the very *smoking hot* Catalina Cruz...shot exclusively for her program FantasyGirlRevenue.com.

[HorseShit]

ill plant it right here

[Sly]

1) I haven't seen content restrictions regarding TGP in years. Any restrictions at like that at all would scare any buyer.

[pornguy]

What a super hottie she is.

[pornguy]

Buyers also want to water mark the images.

[Shap]

Originally Posted by DeanCapture

Hi gang, I have a couple of questions for you content buyers. If you'd rather contact me via email instead of leaving a comment here, that would be cool: deancapture "at" yahoo.com.

1) - When you buy non-exclusive content, is it important to you to be able to use that material in tgp & movie galleries? Some content providers prohibit the use of their material in these galleries unless you pay an additional fee - typically twice the regular rate. Do you want to use images in your galleries that hundreds of others are using in theirs? Would you still buy it if you were restricted to only use the material in your members area? What's your thoughts on this?

2) - Are you buying SD (standard def) or HD (high def) video for your members area?

2) - Regarding HD video...as a content buyer, how do you like your video delivered to you? What format? What size? Do you prefer to get your scenes already edited, color corrected, enhanced and rendered out or do you prefer to receive the raw footage?
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Some of you may know that I am about to start producing high-end glam/babe material for a very limited number of webmasters on a semi-exclusive basis (CaptureGirls.com). Some of the webmasters that I've been chatting with have expressed disappointment and concern over the quality of the material that is available from other suppliers at this time. In my opinion, this leaves a large hole in an area of the market that I think we can fill. If you would like more info about my program, hit me up via email: deancapture "at" yahoo.com

I want to leave you with a couple of recent shots of the very *smoking hot* Catalina Cruz...shot exclusively for her program FantasyGirlRevenue.com.

1) I think restricting the usage will restrict your business more than anything. The only people that truly care about exclusivity are review sites. Our promise to Twistys members is we try to bring them the hottest content available regardless of exclusivity. If I have a set in Twistys it means they don't have to join another site to get that content. Everytime we've had the discussion with members they tell us they prefer having a hot non exclusive set in the members area as opposed to not having the set at all. It's common sense.

You will have webmasters complaining that Twistys, MediumPimpin or Dollars4Babes is pushing the content harder than they are. We've had a few photographers that sold us semi exclusive come back and complain that we were too good at promoting content that other clients complained when they sold it to us. I really think trying to restrict content will increase your headaches more than anything. If a paysite doesn't want content that Twistys has they should pay your full day rate

I know you are a busy guy and the last thing you want to do is police how many pics the people you sell to are using. I would either do members area only or full online usage rights. I wouldn't offer the two options because tracking who has which rights would be a bitch. Matrix actually burned alot of bridges 4 years ago with this exact issue. Ask Nick and Kev about it. Matrix thought they could bully their top clients and got burned by the end result. I think your potential for business is better if you do full usage rights. You'll have more people interested and then you can charge based on a supply/demand model.

2. We provide both. There really is no standard right now. Even the HD we get is in different formats. A real pain in the butt. I would stick with what you are most comfortable with.

3. Raw Footage. Getting raw footage allows us to maintain consistency in our members area. Everybody has a different quality, size, format standard. Trying to make everyone happy will drive you insane lol.

[duff]

Originally Posted by Sly

1) I haven't seen content restrictions regarding TGP in years. Any restrictions at like that at all would scare any buyer.

Hey Sly, You don't have to look hard man... I have hard time naming one content supplier that will allow their content to be used in FHGs without question. Some have setup specific deals that require additional $$$ in order to acquire those rights.

[kowalsky]

Hey! Those pictures are great! If you start selling content with that quality of course won´t be a problem to sell it...

About you questions, I am not interested at all on buying content that I can´t use in galleries, banners or any other way of promoting...

[MaDalton]

i charge extra for FHG, unlimited domains, free webmaster content - it's reasonable and explains itself in the shopping cart.

3. Raw Footage. Getting raw footage allows us to maintain consistency in our members area. Everybody has a different quality, size, format standard. Trying to make everyone happy will drive you insane lol.

i will never ever again offer raw footage for 30 bucks a clip and then see my content released on DVD or re-sold for ten times the price by someone else. i rather don't sell at all

if you want raw footage & all rights then buy exclusive

[Shap]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

i charge extra for FHG, unlimited domains, free webmaster content - it's reasonable and explains itself in the shopping cart.



i will never ever again offer raw footage for 30 bucks a clip and then see my content released on DVD or re-sold for ten times the price by someone else. i rather don't sell at all

if you want raw footage & all rights then buy exclusive

But you'd do it for me

Let's get together in Miami

[DeanCapture]

Thanks guys - great opinions here - keep em' coming!

This is exactly the kind of replies that I was hoping for. A debate about the issues so that I could get an idea on where webmasters stand. I don't want to make the webmaster jump thru a bunch of hoops, but I do feel a need to control the material somewhat since it is semi-exclusive and not custom/exclusive material.

It should be no surprise that webmasters would love to pay for semi-exclusive material but get control over the material as if it were shot custom/exclusive for them. I just want to be as fair as possible to everyone who purchases my material. The only way to do that is to find out what everyone thinks about the issues. Your feedback is invaluable!

Thanks!!!

[DeanCapture]

Oh, I forgot to mention that soon after we start rocking with the glam/babe semi-exclusive content, we are going to start shooting "semi-exclusive" girl/girl and boy/girl hardcore material (pics & vids).

The idea is to bring the same high quality production that people have come to expect from us ... to the hardcore arena! Stay tuned

[Shap]

Originally Posted by DeanCapture

Oh, I forgot to mention that soon after we start rocking with the glam/babe semi-exclusive content, we are going to start shooting "semi-exclusive" girl/girl and boy/girl hardcore material (pics & vids).

The idea is to bring the same high quality production that people have come to expect from us ... to the hardcore arena! Stay tuned

That would be sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet. Personally I've always found it really hard to justify the cost of exclusive Girl Girl shoots. Semi Exclusive would be perfect.

One idea for you for the Girl Girl stuff. Let's say you do Jelena and Jaime right? You have Jaime come in in the morning to shoot a half day. Jelena come in Mid Day to do the Girl Girl and then Jelena do a half day solo after that. So your crew works a full day. Girls work half day and you get a mix and Jelena and Jaime solo plus a Girl Girl shoot for a relatively close to the same price. It would maximize your $$$ for the day.

[Spike D]

Originally Posted by Shap

3. Raw Footage. Getting raw footage allows us to maintain consistency in our members area. Everybody has a different quality, size, format standard. Trying to make everyone happy will drive you insane lol.

and saves a ton of time in the long run...

[sue]

I think Shap raps it up pretty good in his first post. Restricting the content to be used in fhg´s and given away as free webmaster content is one thing, but restricting the site owner who buys the content from using it in their own promotion - no good in my opinion. When we buy content I want to know that all the content we have can be used for tours, banners and in our own galleries etc. Simply because when it is time for graphic work to be done I do not want to have to spend hours going through paper work to make sure we are allowed to use the content for every single photo I want to use. You can call me lazy, I call it being effective:-)

Love your work, it is amazing!!

*hugs and kisses*

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by Shap

But you'd do it for me

Let's get together in Miami

lets see what we can agree on, at least i know where i can find you and i might be coming to Toronto soon ;)

see you in miami

[DeanCapture]

Originally Posted by sue

I think Shap raps it up pretty good in his first post. Restricting the content to be used in fhg´s and given away as free webmaster content is one thing, but restricting the site owner who buys the content from using it in their own promotion - no good in my opinion. When we buy content I want to know that all the content we have can be used for tours, banners and in our own galleries etc. Simply because when it is time for graphic work to be done I do not want to have to spend hours going through paper work to make sure we are allowed to use the content for every single photo I want to use. You can call me lazy, I call it being effective:-)

Love your work, it is amazing!!

*hugs and kisses*

Thanks Sue!

[The Duck]

Restrictions suck. I have the best license in the industry.

[DeanCapture]

Originally Posted by kandah

Restrictions suck. I have the best license in the industry.

[CE_Rashaan]

Very interesting thread.......

Shap you mentioned

Originally Posted by Shap

I would either do members area only or full online usage rights.

I don?t think restricting our content to member?s area is the best option because it can be such a valuable tool for promotion to many.
I would love to charge a little more and issue "full online usage rights" for all the content but there in lies the problem.
Its hard enough to sell the content at the current prices...everyone wants a huge discount.
The justification is always that other companies provide content with no restrictions at half the price.
So I am left with an option of providing a lot more for less... which I haven?t been able to swallow.
I think our content is of better quality then a lot of these companies that provide full rights for less and justifies the higher prices...what do you think?
We put a lot of time and money into our production and I have been producing and directing more in order to insure top quality product.
As the landscape of the "content production" industry is always changing how can we continue to provide high-quality non-exclusive content, the usage everyone wants and make a fair profit?

I don?t mean to hijack your thread Dean

[Shaze]

Dean,
I've always been a fan of your work and think you are one of the top, if not the top, photographer in this industry. I'm sure your content company will be a great success! Hopefully I can be one of your content buyers, and the prices are reasonable!

If your selling semi-exclusive I think it would be fine to allow the content to be used for FHG's and for tour designs. The content won't be saturated all over the web since it's semi-exclusive in the first place. Also, as far as videos are concerned format options I like to see are .avi and .wmv.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Well... Here is my 2 cents.

I think having exclusive content within the members section is vital and to slow the rampant use of content in the free area's can diminish the value of the content and diminish the Member's of a site's expectancy of some exclusivity.

I mean that Surfers definatly should get what they pay for and a grip of exclusive stuff is why they joined the site in the first place or at least with some anticipation of some stuff of a girl they want to see more of. If everything is free the interest to join a site is diminished as elements of the set's are exposed on all the free networks.

The massive content sites do enjoy having everything they can get thier hands on and thats awesome and even more reason to join a site for sure but the extra bit of stuff a surfer wants or will want is going to be some exclusive portions.

With some Study of Twistys for example it appears they have every fucking thing imaginable however some parts of thier content never make it to the free site networks or webmaster tools. I think that is a good thing, correct me if I am wrong there though as Twisty's has shit wad's of FHG's and I havent the time to compare. If you goto say Ampland Twisty's own's the whole list of Babes in that long list practically. However from what I have seen it's not everything they got inside being thrown out to the free zones.

So for photographers/content providers I think it would be a good idea to encourage Free network use of content and establish exclusive use or members only content. It could be counter productive to police, however I think smart site owner's are anxious to not blow everything out when they buy exclusive stuff.

PS: I invented Semi Exclusive content!
When I first started I created set's and only sold the set's to a limited number of buyers. Each set was limited to 10 sales. It put value on the content when I did that. Unfortunatly my little shooting business died a horrible death.

So I may not know enough about it really. I just know certain things I would do if I ran a program or site.

[DeanCapture]

Originally Posted by MatrixRashaan

how can we continue to provide high-quality non-exclusive content, the usage everyone wants and make a fair profit?

Well now.....that's the million dollar question here isn't it?

I don?t mean to hijack your thread Dean