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BradM · 06-05-2008, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Angelina77

There is always a Idiot in here, parents aren't always to blame, what cause I got a divorce, is that it?? Oh my fault right? I took his xbox away his cell phone away, my youngest son has Autism is that my fault too??? Asshole

Thanks for letting me know you are the idiot. Stop blaming your kid for your failings. His mistakes = your fault.

If you can't accept that.... oh wait we already established you're a fucking moron.

datawookiee · 06-05-2008, 01:17 PM

when i was his age i was pretty rough too, never listened, had fits and did what ever i wanted to.. my parents yelled at me, threatened to throw me out and lots of other stuff.. nearly escalated into violence several times.

from all that looking back over the years ive only seen one thing that could make me feel really bad about what i'd done. if my mother started crying i knew i'd fucked up. so you should try that. But it all ended well, they seem to have nudged me in the right directions at the right times so im fine now. but it could have gone to hell in a bad way.

notoldschool · 06-05-2008, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by junction

No, I believe YOU'RE the idiot.

Thats pretty good. Does it make you feel more intelligent to correct my posts? I feel so beneath you now because your sooo smart. LOL. Get a life sig whore. Matter a fact how about sig whoring something worth a shit while u are at it dip shit.

Azoy? · 06-05-2008, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Angelina77

There is always a Idiot in here, parents aren't always to blame, what cause I got a divorce, is that it?? Oh my fault right? I took his xbox away his cell phone away, my youngest son has Autism is that my fault too??? Asshole

ignore assholes like this. don't even bother responding to the dickwod who got nothing better to do then talk this way as it makes him feel better about his low ass life when he puts down other people.
in regards to your son, not sure what is the best way but i would start with talking to him and finding out why he is doing that. if i were to guess it would be because he wants to be cool with his friends.
show him long term health issues if he continues this way.
i say take the oppesite approach and do what he doesn't expect you to do so it throws his off balance and maybe this way you can get closer to the issues to help him.

BradM · 06-05-2008, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Azoy?

ignore assholes like this. don't even bother responding to the dickwod who got nothing better to do then talk this way as it makes him feel better about his low ass life when he puts down other people.
in regards to your son, not sure what is the best way but i would start with talking to him and finding out why he is doing that. if i were to guess it would be because he wants to be cool with his friends.
show him long term health issues if he continues this way.
i say take the oppesite approach and do what he doesn't expect you to do so it throws his off balance and maybe this way you can get closer to the issues to help him.

A 12 year old doesn't understand health issues. That's why they are 12. He can barely figure out what a dick is and how to eat cheerios without spilling milk all over his shorts his mom bought him.

Suggesting that: "Informing a 12 year old of the adverse health risks induced by smoking" is a great way to help a child stop his rebellious act makes me think you people are all beyond the stage of being mental retards.

Unreal how stupid humans are.

Children are mold able, shape able creatures. His mind is jello, but he is starting to develop. Using some BASIC psychology to reverse or at least slow this trend can be done.

Try sites like; http://www.childdevelopmentinfo.com/

I'm not hating. I just know when a parent is a moron and a kid is simply a bi product of a person like that. There's still time to fix your mistakes in his brain and behavior. But now is the time.

Evil E · 06-05-2008, 01:22 PM

I'm not a parent, but I know that you need to have him know that you are not an idiot, you had his age before, and you can fucking smell cigarette smoke... if he's still lying to you about it, he's not showing respect... thats my 1 cent.

And I also vote for the wardrobe experiment.
When I had about his age, my mom told me I could do whatever I wanted... so I smoked. I don't smoke anymore... but I wish that someone could have made me realize so I would have never touched a cigarette again.

Socks · 06-05-2008, 01:24 PM

I took him to all his Hockey, Soccer, Basket ball , even softball games. <---- Chauffer

I was the one routing for him like he was my hero. <--- heros are higher up on the food chain than lowly parents

I live in a great neighborhood, with very lil crime or if any! <--- safety net, high expectations

He also (DOES HAVE DIRT BIKES AND RIDES them with his friends in my back yard) <--- Rock star image to live up to at school

Great kid all around he's suspended for talking to much! <--- Kids don't get suspended for talking too much. They get suspended for refusing to follow the rules, repeatedly. I'm sure your son was a "great kid" to the teachers that told him to keep quiet, repeatedly. Your position on this matter scares me a lot, as you're siding with your son.

From what I've seen as an observant kinda guy, is that parents who generally side with their kids (school's fault, stupid teacher, school sucks, it isn't forever, don't talk to my son that way, etc etc) are well, bad parents. Not saying you're one, but really, ask yourself why you would back your son up after getting kicked out of school? What are you teaching him? Can you not consider that it may be his fault?

Angelina77 · 06-05-2008, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

You're quick to defend yourself. How do you know it's not a parenting issue?

I have no idea if it is or isn't, but I know more times than not, it is. It could simply be because you did get a divorce. FYI, there are studies that say that little boys raised without fathers often go through a serious rebellion / trouble phase. This could be the start of his. I went through it for several years. Girls without dads turn into sluts and whores, getting with bad boy after bad boy. That's just the way it is.

Here is what you do if you simply refuse to think you may have an issue with being a parent:

Someone already said it, but make him sit down and smoke packs of cigs in a small room. Let him get sick from it. Let him puke. Feel his lungs burn.

Then ask him why he is smoking and why he is a fuck up. My bet is because his dads not around. Could just be bad friends. Either way, you need to find out.

If you catch him again. Make him smoke a carton of cigs. Then take EVERYTHING away from him and ground him for a few months. After that and he wants to smoke, let him. He already sounds like he is on his way to being a fuck up, 12 years old and suspended from school... maybe it's just his path. Sometimes good parents have fucked up kids.

his dad is around 50% of the time, we get along and live 4 miles from each other

Socks · 06-05-2008, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM

A 12 year old doesn't understand health issues. That's why they are 12. He can barely figure out what a dick is and how to eat cheerios without spilling milk all over his shorts his mom bought him.

I was reading Nietzsche when I was 13, smoking weed, finger banging my girlfriend afterschool at her house - where I half lived... I had already done a co-op job placement, and started several small companies/projects. At 14 I helped start a series of websites that sold to Internet.com. I was calling public relations department at huge companies and convincing them to mail me their new products to my home address for free, so I could write about them. When I was 16 I secured a $250,000 venture capital investment in another company I helped start.

Kids grow up at different rates. I have a cousin of sorts from Mexico who is 14 now, and he's probably operating at about the level of a 10 year old. Everyone is different, and you can't baby kids. You have to allow them to earn your respect, and be damned sure they respect you.

_Richard_ · 06-05-2008, 01:35 PM

The kid is experimentating.. i never got the reason why parents were so eager to exercise their authority

BradM · 06-05-2008, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Socks

I was reading Nietzsche when I was 13, smoking weed, finger banging my girlfriend afterschool at her house - where I half lived... I had already done a co-op job placement, and started several small companies/projects. At 14 I helped start a series of websites that sold to Internet.com. I was calling public relations department at huge companies and convincing them to mail me their new products to my home address for free, so I could write about them. When I was 16 I secured a $250,000 venture capital investment in another company I helped start.

Kids grow up at different rates. I have a cousin of sorts from Mexico who is 14 now, and he's probably operating at about the level of a 10 year old. Everyone is different, and you can't baby kids. You have to allow them to earn your respect, and be damned sure they respect you.

Good for you?
Her kid is a douche. I am basing what I am saying off him, not your wild story.

Angelina77 · 06-05-2008, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM

A 12 year old doesn't understand health issues. That's why they are 12. He can barely figure out what a dick is and how to eat cheerios without spilling milk all over his shorts his mom bought him.

Suggesting that: "Informing a 12 year old of the adverse health risks induced by smoking" is a great way to help a child stop his rebellious act makes me think you people are all beyond the stage of being mental retards.

Unreal how stupid humans are.

Children are mold able, shape able creatures. His mind is jello, but he is starting to develop. Using some BASIC psychology to reverse or at least slow this trend can be done.

Try sites like; http://www.childdevelopmentinfo.com/

I'm not hating. I just know when a parent is a moron and a kid is simply a bi product of a person like that. There's still time to fix your mistakes in his brain and behavior. But now is the time.

12 is a lil older then you think, you are classless, you are the kind of person I'm trying to stop my son from being! Trailer trash etc. Now go smoke your crack and post somewhere else! Looser!

Socks · 06-05-2008, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Socks

but really, ask yourself why you would back your son up after getting kicked out of school? What are you teaching him? Can you not consider that it may be his fault?

Consider this: We share an office at the moment with a friend of mine. He had a new employee, someone from our circle of friends, known him off and on forever.

Long story short, he didn't respect anything around here, treated it like his home, got caught in lies, slept here on the couch repeatedly, etc. We asked him a simple request one day to move his bike so the cleaner could mop the floor. My biz partner asked him to move his shit (again, not even our employee, but he knows we're just as "boss" as his boss..) and he got all up his face, yelling and screaming out of nowhere. Somehow my biz partner didn't hit him, no idea how.. We took his key.

Next week my buddy convinced us to let him back in. We said okay, another chance. Within 2 weeks, he slept here again, my programmer told him politely one morning that he shouldn't be sleeping when people get here, and he did the same thing. Flipped out on her. She called us crying.

Another flare up, we asked for the key - this time he said no!! He said no the first time, but we made him basically. This time he like ran off with it lol.

So we changed the locks immediately, etc etc. He came back to get his shit with his MOMMY, (dude is like 35 fucking years old!) and guess what his mom does..

Talks shit the whole time about us, how we're not treating her son fairly, why are we giving him a hard time, all this shit.. We basically had to tell her to fuck off and mind her own business. She got all up in our face - just like her son did.. Gee wonder where it came from.

She's the same lady who sided with her son over his teachers, over the police, over his employers.. Her son is an angel to her.

To us, he's almost certainly a drug addict, highly volatile, impolite, rude, obnoxious, violent... Disrespectful... And has no understanding of reality.

bronco67 · 06-05-2008, 01:38 PM

I think you should show him what the tobacco is doing to his innocent little lungs. To accomplish this, you must tear them from his chest. I'd try going down the throat, maybe.

BradM · 06-05-2008, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Angelina77

12 is a lil older then you think, you are classless, you are the kind of person I'm trying to stop my son from being! Trailer trash etc. Now go smoke your crack and post somewhere else! Looser!

You're a failed mother and a failed person which is why this thread exists. You pass the buck... which is why this thread exists.

You are clearly trailer trash... which is why this thread exists.

You fail at life. Stop trying to put anything on me, it won't work.

BradM · 06-05-2008, 01:43 PM

It's shocking how incredibly stupid and ignorant you are.

Actually it's not... your son smokes and is suspended at age 12. Good work, trashy mctrasherton!

Socks · 06-05-2008, 01:44 PM

Brad, I guess your mother never taught you:

If you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything.

I had nothing against you before, but saying things like "you're a failed mother" and "you're trailer trash" and "you fail at life" maybe, just maybe, doesn't belong in a thread with a mother trying to get some advice about her family.

You clearly have no sense of family. Do us all a favour and leave this thread alone.

Now can up your attack on me too, just move on man.. You went far enough already.

Evil E · 06-05-2008, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM

You're a failed mother and a failed person which is why this thread exists. You pass the buck... which is why this thread exists.

You are clearly trailer trash... which is why this thread exists.

You fail at life. Stop trying to put anything on me, it won't work.

Are you trolling BradM? You are pretty much highly disrespectful and rude towards someone you don't know, because you are making some assumptions...

Do you know that some kids that grow up in dysfunctional families then become doctors?

Or some kids that have very good parents get in trouble and become criminals?

Of course it's easy to blame the parent, but you don't know the whole situation.. maybe she needs to rethink her strategy, but her kid is also responsible for his own actions. It's not like if she controls him like a puppet.

BradM · 06-05-2008, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Socks

Brad, I guess your mother never taught you:

If you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything.

I had nothing against you before, but saying things like "you're a failed mother" and "you're trailer trash" and "you fail at life" maybe, just maybe, doesn't belong in a thread with a mother trying to get some advice about her family.

You clearly have no sense of family. Do us all a favour and leave this thread alone.

Socks: I don't give a shit what you have against me. Fact is this woman sucks at something and when given advice says "OMG ITS NOT THE KID ITS THE BAD TEACHERS AND HIM NOT HAVING A DAD AND OMG EVERYTHING BUT ME AND HIM!!!!"

She's a moron. The fact that you're wasting your time on her just means you're bored. I clued in, and the 9 minutes I spent typing this will be for not, but at least I realize she isn't here for advice, or family suggestions or help. She's here to brag and brand something.

So Socks... do us all a favor and shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Angelina77 · 06-05-2008, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM

You're a failed mother and a failed person which is why this thread exists. You pass the buck... which is why this thread exists.

You are clearly trailer trash... which is why this thread exists.

You fail at life. Stop trying to put anything on me, it won't work.

I could buy you and put you on a shelf, play with you when I want! But I'm not a garbage picker! I'm done with posting with you, a few people here know me as a person, and know I'm far from trash! I was shocked thats why I posted this. You wouldn't be in my face talking like this that's for sure! Type away, about how much you hate life, the world etc. no one cares!

notoldschool · 06-05-2008, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM

It's shocking how incredibly stupid and ignorant you are.

Actually it's not... your son smokes and is suspended at age 12. Good work, trashy mctrasherton!

is something wrong with u? im betting you were a lonely child with dead beat parents. you lash out like u have serious family issues.

BradM · 06-05-2008, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Angelina77

I could buy you and put you on a shelf, play with you when I want! But I'm not a garbage picker! I'm done with posting with you, a few people here know me as a person, and know I'm far from trash! I was shocked thats why I posted this. You wouldn't be in my face talking like this that's for sure! Type away, about how much you hate life, the world etc. no one cares!

No you're right I wouldn't say anything to your face. Anyone who KNOWS ME and knows how I am would know I'd happily laugh at your face and give you a nice slap. Maybe it would slap the idiot out of you. Doubtful though.

Your son will be in jail in 4 years and you'll wish you had thought a lot more about what I said up top this thread instead of going on a retarded tirade.

Socks · 06-05-2008, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil E

Do you know that some kids that grow up in dysfunctional families then become doctors?

Or some kids that have very good parents get in trouble and become criminals?

lol yeah.. A 12 year old has a smoke and this guy is going apeshit.

Imagine what he thinks about his penis pill customers

Electric Lights · 06-05-2008, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Angelina77

I could buy you and put you on a shelf, play with you when I want!

You're still a failed parent.

BradM · 06-05-2008, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool

is something wrong with u? im betting you were a lonely child with dead beat parents. you lash out like u have serious family issues.

Wrong. You know nothing also. Why am I responding to you, Mr. Fake Nick?

You lash out like an uneducated fool. What's worse?

Socks · 06-05-2008, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM

No you're right I wouldn't say anything to your face. Anyone who KNOWS ME and knows how I am would know I'd happily laugh at your face and give you a nice slap. Maybe it would slap the idiot out of you. Doubtful though.

Your son will be in jail in 4 years and you'll wish you had thought a lot more about what I said up top this thread instead of going on a retarded tirade.

Ooooooooooh I'm about to get all Franck on your ass.

notoldschool · 06-05-2008, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM

Wrong. You know nothing also. Why am I responding to you, Mr. Fake Nick?

You lash out like an uneducated fool. What's worse?

I have to admit that I am uneducated on your back ground but I go by what I read. I was actually quite surprised to read your childesh tirade against a single mother, but I guess I missed some of your past nasty posts.

You are the uneducated one though. I started smoking when I was thirteen, my parents are celebrating their 40th anniversary this week. I was treated quite well, I have a set of Class A's with more decoration than your Christmas tree, I got my degree with honers, and I run a very successful proggie and rather large network all by my lonesome.

That alone shows that your theory is as ignorant as you are.

Due · 06-05-2008, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Angelina77

There is always a Idiot in here, parents aren't always to blame, what cause I got a divorce, is that it?? Oh my fault right? I took his xbox away his cell phone away, my youngest son has Autism is that my fault too??? Asshole

Mayby he feel neglected because your youngest son with Autism is taking too much attention ?
If it is the case I wouldnt say it is your fault, but something you would need to deal with

Johny Traffic · 06-05-2008, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Angelina77

There is always a Idiot in here, parents aren't always to blame,

Someone who comes to an adult webmaster forum called "go fuck Yourself" and asks for advice on bringing up her children, who at 12 is smoking and suspended from school, calls someone here an idiot?

I guess the irony is lost on you.

Poor kids

wtfent · 06-05-2008, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Angelina77

JOYS OF BEING A SINGLE PARENT

That's hot. Too bad your not in San Diego. I'm also a single parent and I always love meeting single moms, I just relate to them so much more. Plus its hard to do family stuff when I'm dating a girl without a kid. Anyways good luck.

Nydahl · 06-05-2008, 02:31 PM

I say no big deal - your mother also wouldn't be so happy when she knew about your first blow job done couple of years ago....

wtfent · 06-05-2008, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Johny Traffic

Someone who comes to an adult webmaster forum called "go fuck Yourself" and asks for advice on bringing up her children, who at 12 is smoking and suspended from school, calls someone here an idiot?

I guess the irony is lost on you.

Poor kids

You guys are jerks. I think GFY is a great place to vent and thats all she is doing. nobody comes here thinking they are going to get great advice but I think they just are looking to hear similar stories or just get an idea or two. GFY does have its fair share of morons but it also has a well mixed crowd of all races, countries, gender, age, etc...

Socks · 06-05-2008, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by wtfent

You guys are jerks. I think GFY is a great place to vent and thats all she is doing. nobody comes here thinking they are going to get great advice but I think they just are looking to hear similar stories or just get an idea or two. GFY does have its fair share of morons but it also has a well mixed crowd of all races, countries, gender, age, etc...

Careful, that kind of logical sense can have grave consequences here at GFY

wtfent · 06-05-2008, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Angelina77

I'm so pissed off, my son is out of school right now because he is suspended. I came home when he didn't expect it and my home home smelt like smoke. He denied but yet the only one here. I'm so mad but don't know what to do! I keep trying to punish him for the last thing, then there is something new!! WTF Any parents of teens have any ideas??

JOYS OF BEING A SINGLE PARENT

I'm 26 and I remember smoking my first cig when I was 11, I didn't even know how to inhale. I say its just part of growing up, he will experiment with things you might not like but thats the only way we he can learn. Just set high expectations for him and let him know you don't care he smoked, we all experiment and screw up and you know that he wont let you down again.

wtfent · 06-05-2008, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by wtfent

I'm 26 and I remember smoking my first cig when I was 11, I didn't even know how to inhale. I say its just part of growing up, he will experiment with things you might not like but thats the only way we he can learn. Just set high expectations for him and let him know you don't care he smoked, we all experiment and screw up and you know that he wont let you down again.

Oh also I hate cigs by the way. Gross gross

Johny Traffic · 06-05-2008, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by wtfent

You guys are jerks. I think GFY is a great place to vent and thats all she is doing. nobody comes here thinking they are going to get great advice but I think they just are looking to hear similar stories or just get an idea or two. GFY does have its fair share of morons but it also has a well mixed crowd of all races, countries, gender, age, etc...

nice idea, Shame its wrong, GFY isnt a great place for anything apart from picking up the odd adult webmaster affiliate to help sell pictures off woman with dildo's up there cunt.

It isnt a place to get friends, and certainly isnt a place to share ideas on parenting. If you think it is I hope you never have kids, if you have kids and think this is the place to share parenting skills, I feel sorry for them

Looks like the only other person who thinks this is a good place to share parenting skills have kids at 12 suspended from school who smoke.

cleopatra0628 · 06-05-2008, 02:41 PM

don't punish him. talk to him. tell him its ok to smoke but give him limitations. (like smoke outside the room etc.) and explain the consequences if he continues with the habit. so in the end he will think about it, and might stop eventually.

make him feel that you support him in anything. ryt now that he is suspended, i think he is feeling down, and needs your support.

baddog · 06-05-2008, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool

I got my degree with honers,

Obviously English wasn't a requirement.

datawookiee · 06-05-2008, 03:06 PM

Right, this sorta escalated.. I still stick to my advice though, a crying mother always shut me up.

notoldschool · 06-05-2008, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Obviously English wasn't a requirement.

Ha ha...i was waitin to pounce, but then comes the old man first...like I siad before never less than a A in comp or any comp paper for that mater. I love helping you get your post count close to equal to your age dinosaur man.

schools are much easier int this century but u woulnt no.

Angelina77 · 06-05-2008, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Johny Traffic

Someone who comes to an adult webmaster forum called "go fuck Yourself" and asks for advice on bringing up her children, who at 12 is smoking and suspended from school, calls someone here an idiot?

I guess the irony is lost on you.

Poor kids

lol I can even laugh at that, I also went to mom2mom site but I post here alot lately, so the people who know me understand. As for advice here???? to my understanding we are all normal people here with family's. I didn't know you thought everyone here was such loosers that I shouldn't ask.

Jman · 06-05-2008, 03:31 PM

Send him to bootcamp ;-)

Angelina77 · 06-05-2008, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool

I have to admit that I am uneducated on your back ground but I go by what I read. I was actually quite surprised to read your childesh tirade against a single mother, but I guess I missed some of your past nasty posts.

You are the uneducated one though. I started smoking when I was thirteen, my parents are celebrating their 40th anniversary this week. I was treated quite well, I have a set of Class A's with more decoration than your Christmas tree, I got my degree with honers, and I run a very successful proggie and rather large network all by my lonesome.

That alone shows that your theory is as ignorant as you are.

dont explain yourself to trash... they are too stupid to understand!!! He probably dropped out of school and had parents like he's trying to describe me as. So he's angry! He needs love! We all love you Brad take a xanax and get some sleep! ok

flowereater · 06-05-2008, 03:38 PM

wicked

thats bad

Angelina77 · 06-05-2008, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by wtfent

I'm 26 and I remember smoking my first cig when I was 11, I didn't even know how to inhale. I say its just part of growing up, he will experiment with things you might not like but thats the only way we he can learn. Just set high expectations for him and let him know you don't care he smoked, we all experiment and screw up and you know that he wont let you down again.

Thanx it's nice to hear that. When I called his father he basically said the same things. He was in a fort with 4 other boys and they all tried it. They were the same age. I feel better. And if I do catch him again I will do what half of you said.... to make him smoke the whole pack till he pukes.

DWB · 06-05-2008, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Angelina77

his dad is around 50% of the time, we get along and live 4 miles from each other

I'd work on having him around the other 50% of the time. You clearly have a problem with this kid if he is only 12 and already getting into serious problems at school.

It stems from something. Just gotta find out what it is.

Best of luck.

junction · 06-05-2008, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool

Thats pretty good. Does it make you feel more intelligent to correct my posts? I feel so beneath you now because your sooo smart. LOL. Get a life sig whore. Matter a fact how about sig whoring something worth a shit while u are at it dip shit.

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Sig Whore

Word used to describe people who are living with their mom and making over 1000 mostly useless posts a month on message boards and pretending to be serious webmasters in order to earn $150 per month for the signature space under their posts.

1878 posts since 2002. It's quite obvious I am a sig whore.

Drake · 06-05-2008, 04:32 PM

The first person to offer me a cigarette was my dad when I was a child, maybe 6 or 7 years old (I always asked if I could try things, and he let me in his presence). Ditto for alcohol. I experimented a little further in highschool with my friends, but I knew it was never something I would continue. My parents aren't smokers nor drinkers although grandma was a chain smoker.

But all situations are different and individual temperaments and addictive personalities differ too.

aico · 06-05-2008, 04:56 PM

find his cigarettes, slide a couple hairs into each of them.

crockett · 06-05-2008, 07:29 PM

No teenage kid that has expermented with smoking is going to stop just because his mom says so or because he's punished. It will just make him want to do it more. You have to figure out a way to make him decide it's bad.

When I was a kid I experimented with smoking but didn't continue. I also didn't do drugs but it wasn't because my parents told me not to.. It was because I decided not to on my own. That's the key.. He has to decide it for him self.

Hell the best thing that probably happened to me was I knew a guy that did way too much pot.. To the point the he was getting pretty damn stupid. Anytime I thought of drugs after that I thought of that dude and how useless he was.

I'd say try and find some one dying of cancer in the hospital or someone who has to talk through the hole in their throat and let your son spend some quality time with them..

06-05-2008, 01:22 PM	#56
Evil E Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Lazyness is a lifestyle Posts: 3,201	I'm not a parent, but I know that you need to have him know that you are not an idiot, you had his age before, and you can fucking smell cigarette smoke... if he's still lying to you about it, he's not showing respect... thats my 1 cent. And I also vote for the wardrobe experiment. When I had about his age, my mom told me I could do whatever I wanted... so I smoked. I don't smoke anymore... but I wish that someone could have made me realize so I would have never touched a cigarette again. __________________ A girl once told me "Give me 8 inches and make it HURT". So, I fucked her twice and hit her with a brick.

06-05-2008, 01:38 PM	#64
bronco67 Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 29,032	I think you should show him what the tobacco is doing to his innocent little lungs. To accomplish this, you must tear them from his chest. I'd try going down the throat, maybe. Last edited by bronco67; 06-05-2008 at 01:39 PM..

06-05-2008, 02:31 PM	#81
Nydahl Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: closer then it appears Posts: 6,655	I say no big deal - your mother also wouldn't be so happy when she knew about your first blow job done couple of years ago.... __________________ www.garciniatrio.com www.acaitrio.com www.greencoffeetrio.com ICQ 153918034 email [email protected]

06-05-2008, 03:31 PM	#92
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06-05-2008, 03:38 PM	#94
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06-05-2008, 01:17 PM	#52
datawookiee Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 146	when i was his age i was pretty rough too, never listened, had fits and did what ever i wanted to.. my parents yelled at me, threatened to throw me out and lots of other stuff.. nearly escalated into violence several times. from all that looking back over the years ive only seen one thing that could make me feel really bad about what i'd done. if my mother started crying i knew i'd fucked up. so you should try that. But it all ended well, they seem to have nudged me in the right directions at the right times so im fine now. but it could have gone to hell in a bad way.

06-05-2008, 01:24 PM	#57
Socks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,475	I took him to all his Hockey, Soccer, Basket ball , even softball games. <---- Chauffer I was the one routing for him like he was my hero. <--- heros are higher up on the food chain than lowly parents I live in a great neighborhood, with very lil crime or if any! <--- safety net, high expectations He also (DOES HAVE DIRT BIKES AND RIDES them with his friends in my back yard) <--- Rock star image to live up to at school Great kid all around he's suspended for talking to much! <--- Kids don't get suspended for talking too much. They get suspended for refusing to follow the rules, repeatedly. I'm sure your son was a "great kid" to the teachers that told him to keep quiet, repeatedly. Your position on this matter scares me a lot, as you're siding with your son. From what I've seen as an observant kinda guy, is that parents who generally side with their kids (school's fault, stupid teacher, school sucks, it isn't forever, don't talk to my son that way, etc etc) are well, bad parents. Not saying you're one, but really, ask yourself why you would back your son up after getting kicked out of school? What are you teaching him? Can you not consider that it may be his fault?

06-05-2008, 01:35 PM	#60
_Richard_ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 30,990	The kid is experimentating.. i never got the reason why parents were so eager to exercise their authority

06-05-2008, 01:43 PM	#66
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	It's shocking how incredibly stupid and ignorant you are. Actually it's not... your son smokes and is suspended at age 12. Good work, trashy mctrasherton!

06-05-2008, 01:44 PM	#67
Socks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,475	Brad, I guess your mother never taught you: If you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything. I had nothing against you before, but saying things like "you're a failed mother" and "you're trailer trash" and "you fail at life" maybe, just maybe, doesn't belong in a thread with a mother trying to get some advice about her family. You clearly have no sense of family. Do us all a favour and leave this thread alone. Now can up your attack on me too, just move on man.. You went far enough already.

06-05-2008, 02:41 PM	#87
cleopatra0628 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 278	don't punish him. talk to him. tell him its ok to smoke but give him limitations. (like smoke outside the room etc.) and explain the consequences if he continues with the habit. so in the end he will think about it, and might stop eventually. make him feel that you support him in anything. ryt now that he is suspended, i think he is feeling down, and needs your support.

06-05-2008, 03:06 PM	#89
datawookiee Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 146	Right, this sorta escalated.. I still stick to my advice though, a crying mother always shut me up.

06-05-2008, 04:32 PM	#98
Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	The first person to offer me a cigarette was my dad when I was a child, maybe 6 or 7 years old (I always asked if I could try things, and he let me in his presence). Ditto for alcohol. I experimented a little further in highschool with my friends, but I knew it was never something I would continue. My parents aren't smokers nor drinkers although grandma was a chain smoker. But all situations are different and individual temperaments and addictive personalities differ too. Last edited by Drake; 06-05-2008 at 04:33 PM..

06-05-2008, 04:56 PM	#99
aico Moo Moo Cow Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Washington State Posts: 14,748	find his cigarettes, slide a couple hairs into each of them.

06-05-2008, 07:29 PM	#100
crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 76,806	No teenage kid that has expermented with smoking is going to stop just because his mom says so or because he's punished. It will just make him want to do it more. You have to figure out a way to make him decide it's bad. When I was a kid I experimented with smoking but didn't continue. I also didn't do drugs but it wasn't because my parents told me not to.. It was because I decided not to on my own. That's the key.. He has to decide it for him self. Hell the best thing that probably happened to me was I knew a guy that did way too much pot.. To the point the he was getting pretty damn stupid. Anytime I thought of drugs after that I thought of that dude and how useless he was. I'd say try and find some one dying of cancer in the hospital or someone who has to talk through the hole in their throat and let your son spend some quality time with them.. __________________ In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.