Lane

Do you think they really work?

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Eric

They do really work but they are very hard to stick to. If you are looking to lose weight and keep it off. The best way to do that is 3 to 5 days a week of at least 30 minutes of cardiovascular work that raises your heart rate and gets the blood pumping. This along with eating normally will drop your weight. Look to increase the amount of fruits and veggies that you intake daily.

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Pleasurepays

yes.
but nothing works unless you will take time to educate yourself on nutrition and exercise.

Lane

ok..

i do about 15 minutes of cardiovascular work with a heart rate of 160-180 range..
and some weight lifting (usually 40-60 mins)..
i do this at least 4 times a week...

but i just started about 2 weeks ago... and i lost like 8-10 pounds (which might be mostly water since i dont eat as much either)..

just wondering if such diet would help me keep losing weight and build up my muscles at the same time..

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Pleasurepays

Protein diets are referred to as "Ketogenic Diets"

just eating protein/low carbs will prevent you from any gains because on effect of no carbs is dehydration and there is no way to compensate for it.

there are "Cyclical Ketogenic Diets" used by body builders to lose fat/maintain mass where they eat high carbs on weekends, low carb during the week

Lyle McDonald has a book called The Ketogenic Diet which is probably the best source of information and most well researched.

Dr Atkins does not

Beastiepoo

High protein will help you build muscle BUT you have to be careful with this sort of diet. Too much protein can actually poison your system. I can't remember exactly what the syndrome is called but I think it can majorly fuck up your liver. Do some research before getting into the high protein, no carbs thing hardcore.

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Cheshire

One problem encountered with low carb diets is that your energy level decreases considerably, so try Hydroxycut or Xenadrine to give you back some pep.
Funny you start this thread because yesterday I began my high-protien/low-carb diet, but to accomodate it I had to switch up my exercise routine. Now instead of morning and night, I work out harder in the morning because by night time I'm exausted.
If you're looking to lose fat maybe increase your cardio as your first step, but muscle mass increases the rate of calorie burn even in a resting state so definitely keep up with the weight lifting. You may want to have a small carb load about 45 minutes before you lift, so you can have the staying power to push through your routine.

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VooMan

Hi Lane,

The low carb - high protein diet works quite well for many people, but not everyone... My sister and my mother, along with a bunch of other people I've spoken to have really lost a lot of weight by lowering their carbs. Not only that, but they felt a LOT better as well. My sister used to always feel tired and run down, and once she cut the carbs out of her diet she had boundless energy, felt more clear headed, etc...

The one thing you need to be really aware of is the withdrawl process. Your body has been using carbs for fuel for your whole life, and it takes some time before it makes the switch to primarily burning fat for fuel. There's going to be a couple of weeks where you might feel horrible, but if you can stick it out and get past it you should do well.

I'm not a doctor, I don't play one on TV, and this kind of diet isn't for everyone. I tried it myself for a month and couldn't hack it. I was tired all the time and just felt horrible. So your milage may vary... The overwhelming results though are similar to what I told you above about my sister and my mother. They felt great, lost weight, cholesterol went down, improved blood sugar levels, etc...

Good luck with it. :-)

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Pleasurepays

thats absolutely not true. and you are confusing excess protein supplementation with low carb. eating most of your calories from protein and fat is not excessive. our bodies have done it for 15-20 million years.

not eating carbs will not allow you to gain muscle. being in a state of "ketosis" where you body is getting most of its enrgy from fat stores and dietary fat and protein does prevent catabolism of the muscles - which often occures with caloric restriction, excess aerobics and over training.

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Cheshire

I'm curious where you're getting your information.
I was preparing for a race a few months back and almost overtrained, so to prevent my body from going catabolic my trainer instructed me to ease back on cardio and focus more on pushing weights. I've never heard that increased protein prevents catabolism... I've heard anabolics do, but never protein.

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Pleasurepays

best thing to do is to read and study. you will find that there is far more bad advice than good advice. you are you. you are unique, your diet, work habits, metabolism and levels of physical activity etc... are unique to you.

this is a good place to start when looking at protein diets in relation to body building.

http://low-carb.org/lylemcd/
http://low-carb.org/lylemcd/cyclic1.htm

read read read
study study study

there is no shortcut to discipline and knowledge.

Pleasurepays

there is a difference in your diet in general and a Ketogenic diet. you are comparing apples to oranges. I am not saying that "increasing protein" prevents catabolism. I am saying that when you have decreased carb intake to the point that your body is in a state of Ketosis catabolism almost does not occur.

you have to study the physiology and i would have to look it up to give you an intelligent and accurate explanation. Bodybuilders have been using low Carb diets since the 50's. because it is an effective way to lower body fat % without losing muscle.

Candyman69

you knkow what , just exercise

lift weights 4 times a week
do 30-35 mins of cardio after each weight section
that way you lose fat, and not muscle

cut down on junk food
eat 6 meals instead of 3
but not huge portions each time

get protien shakes to fill some of the meals

ur set

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Beastiepoo

Fair enough, I could be wrong about how the diet will ultimately affect muscle gain but I'm not wrong about the possibility of poisoning your system with too much protein. I'm not downing the low-carb, high-protein diet, just advising research and caution.

Also, just to add, your blood type also affects how your body uses protein, carbs, and fat which is ONE reason why some people get on well with the Atkins diet and some people fail miserably. I don't know all the details but I know that people with blood type O need more protein to balance their system and therefore tend to get on better with the Atkins diet when balanced with exercise and weight training.




P.S. I belong with FATpad at the moment though as I haven't dieted in at least a couple of years. I intend to get back into healthy eating and exercise after the baby is born though.

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Pleasurepays

doing 35 minutes of cardio after lifting for example, would cause catabolism. your blood sugar and glycogen levels in your muscles as a primary energy source, would already be depleted after lifting.

then doing cardio would cause your body to turn to muscle for energy.

Schwick

I would suggest picking up the book "Body fo Life." An all around good program that gives even a beginner a specific form to follow. I think that cutting out carbs altogether isn't the thing to do. Instead try and get your carbs from natural foods (fruits, veggies, good grains). I mean really we can all admit that if we step back and take a look at the stuff we eat it has a ton of refined sugars in it. Look at it this way...have you ever seen a non-domesticated animal that was fat? Ask yourself why.
On a side note: The incidence of type II diabetes has TRIPLED in the last 30 years and so has the consumption of pop (soda for the rest of you) in the same time by the average American.