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Old 10-12-2002, 04:10 PM   #101
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the US would be a better if they dealt with the core of the problem...

and banned poor people with guns. if it wasnt for crack dealers and rednecks there would not be a gun debate.

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Old 10-12-2002, 04:11 PM   #102
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if you had a gun in our pocket...your roomate woulda known...and definately wouldnt try shit with a knife
That was my point.

I know many more people that have been injured and killed by drugs and exploding meth labs than guns. Actually, I've been fortunate enough to not know anyone killed by a bullet.
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Old 10-12-2002, 04:12 PM   #103
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the US would be a better if they dealt with the core of the problem...

and banned poor people with guns. if it wasnt for crack dealers and rednecks there would not be a gun debate.

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Old 10-12-2002, 04:15 PM   #104
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I don't know anything about guns Sly.. I was asked to get one, but refused.. Was also told this can cos me more harm than good, especially if you know fuck all about em! *g* But.. I learned one thing - in that instance, you "supposed" to shoot in the leg an stop the attack.

Oddly, ... I ain't no "expert", but a good few of the folks that commit stupid crimes are already mentally "gone".. kinda like in your instance...
Having such a strong negative opinion towards something you know little, or in this case, nothing about, is silly. Take a time out sometime and learn a little bit about guns... someday it just might save your life.
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Having such a strong negative opinion towards something you know little, or in this case, nothing about, is silly. Take a time out sometime and learn a little bit about guns... someday it just might save your life.
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*Ok so your friends are crack whores & drug dealers. The only way you get 70bullets in your car here in America, is to steal money from your pimp, or your drug dealer.*

*lol*.. Na.. in fact quite the opposite! And this friend was.. hell.. hate to say it, kinda used to that behaviour, and fortuately knew what to do - she ain't no crook!
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*Having such a strong negative opinion towards something you know little, or in this case, nothing about, is silly. Take a time out sometime and learn a little bit about guns... someday it just might save your life.*

I hear ya Sly... don't think I am negative about it. Think maybe .. well.. I can see one friend.. hell they chose their path in life.. but I can see sometimes it's by "the skin of teeth" that they are alive today.. and I sure don't want to see them.. or anyone harmed by gun activity.

But yea.. I really can see your side as well! :-)
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*Ok so your friends are crack whores & drug dealers. The only way you get 70bullets in your car here in America, is to steal money from your pimp, or your drug dealer.*

*lol*.. Na.. in fact quite the opposite! And this friend was.. hell.. hate to say it, kinda used to that behaviour, and fortuately knew what to do - she ain't no crook!
Ok so she ratted out a drug dealer, same thing. Thats about the only way 70 rounds come your way, unless you're drunk & stumble onto a military firing range.
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Most doctors don't see gunshot wounds, because most doctors don't work in emergency rooms.[/url]
If you're referring to my post about the American doctor at the international conference, he was a spinal cord specialist. Once the emergency room doctor does his best to keep the patient alive and stabilize him, the specialists (like spinal cord surgeons) get to work on the major repairs. He was at a conference of spinal cord specialists and discovered that only in America is it routine for spinal specialists to have to deal with gunshot related spinal cord injuries.
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Old 10-12-2002, 05:21 PM   #110
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People in the hood don't see specialists, they get sent to county
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Old 10-12-2002, 05:43 PM   #111
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I would love to see any invading power try to waltz through the American rural areas. Where there are more guns than people. And people there KNOW how to use them. It would be a bloodbath.

Wolveriiiiines!

LOL.....I have not seen that movie in a LONG time.
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no no...he just doesnt "want to get into that" here on the board.
no no..Tree had it right.

This guy is full of shit. Meanwile he is scanning every news website he can find in the US looking for a story that can closely match up.
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I learned one thing - in that instance, you "supposed" to shoot in the leg an stop the attack.
Shoot in the leg? WTF?

Not sure what school of thought you have been attending but a dead man can not seek revenge.

2 in the chest.....1 in the head and call it a day. If you can not pull this off with a handgun in about 1.5 seconds then you should not own a handgun in the first place.

Shoot them in the leg? Please.

Say it with me..."Morgue...not hospital."
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ya ask anyone ...my cousin whos a cop told me "if your gonna shoot someone....shoot them in the head or the chest cause if you wound them your paying for them for the rest of your life, even if they were at fault."

if i wanna wound someone ill use a bat...shoot in the leg
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I just heard this morning of a friend - his wife was shot last night by some idiot. This was a totally unprovoked attack - he just wanted to mug her, but decided to kill her as well.

They had a young family - two children...

I think it is time this infantile "wild west" shit was terminated - along with guns.
Would he have prefered she had her throat slashed? Maybe she should have owned a gun.

I don't ask or even want the government making laws and trying to protect me like I'm a fucking 4 year old, I'll sit here with my 9mm and protect my shit and family, doesnt matter if the US turns into a police state or martial law. my shit, my family, my gun, my problem, none of your fucking buisness.

I suggest some of you mini-hitlers stop worring about what everyone else does and worry about protecting yourself. Stop relying on laws and cops and your non stop fucking whining.
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Old 10-12-2002, 06:33 PM   #117
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Can't just ban all guns.

Try fixing the assholes who go crazy and use guns to kill people. That is a much better solution.

Maybe we should ban cars, since 90% of drivers cannot drive safely to save their ass. In addition to cars definitely causing more fatalities a year than guns.

Yeah, thats it. Ban cars. Cars kill thousands of people a year. FUCK CARS, and all moving vehicles! Ban them all!

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ya ask anyone ...my cousin whos a cop told me "if your gonna shoot someone....shoot them in the head or the chest cause if you wound them your paying for them for the rest of your life, even if they were at fault."

if i wanna wound someone ill use a bat...shoot in the leg
Sounds like your cousin and I may have some of the same training.

That was then....porn is now.

Oh, and for the record...no, I am not and I never have been a cop.

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Old 10-12-2002, 07:17 PM   #119
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the US would be a better if they dealt with the core of the problem...

and banned poor people with guns. if it wasnt for crack dealers and rednecks there would not be a gun debate.

So poor people should have fewer right than the rich.

Maybe blacks should have less rights too?

How about women?

Dimwit!
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ya ask anyone ...my cousin whos a cop told me "if your gonna shoot someone....shoot them in the head or the chest cause if you wound them your paying for them for the rest of your life, even if they were at fault."

if i wanna wound someone ill use a bat...shoot in the leg
a couple Seattle city cops who my friend worked out with at the gym said the exact same thing.

anyone ever seen a cop just fire one shot once they have decided to use deadly force? nope! just doesnt happen (well ... probably happens in France) but seriously, who wants the headache of a lawsuit because a guy got knee capped?
fuck that shit! all the attorney fees, possible suspension, inquiries, investigations, lots of paperwork. better to just light em' up in a hail of gun fire and let his family pay for the mess
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ya ask anyone ...my cousin whos a cop told me "if your gonna shoot someone....shoot them in the head or the chest cause if you wound them your paying for them for the rest of your life, even if they were at fault."

if i wanna wound someone ill use a bat...shoot in the leg
One of the guy's that was doing handgun training classes (required in my state to get licenced) made it very clear, if you shoot go for the kill *period*, if the scumbag lives theres a good chance he can sue you. Police and lawyers will tell you the same thing.
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So poor people should have fewer right than the rich.

Maybe blacks should have less rights too?

How about women?

Dimwit!
Anyone that causes the problem should have less rights.

You dont see too many rich people gunning down 7-11 clerks, doing drive by shootings in Compton or getting into turf wars.

its dipshits like you that use twisted, perverted circular and extrapolar logic to create a fictitious situation that just doesnt exist to deflect attention from the real issue .... because you start characterizing policies to deal with the real issues as desciminatory, racist or whatever the fuck.

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Anyone that causes the problem should have less rights.

You dont see too many rich people gunning down 7-11 clerks, doing drive by shootings in Compton or getting into turf wars.

its dipshits like you that use twisted, perverted circular and extrapolar logic to create a fictitious situation that just doesnt exist to deflect attention from the real issue .... because you start characterizing policies to deal with the real issues as desciminatory, racist or whatever the fuck.

no, rich people just murder and get away with it like o.j. simpson and claus von bulow
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Anyone that causes the problem should have less rights.

You dont see too many rich people gunning down 7-11 clerks, doing drive by shootings in Compton or getting into turf wars.

its dipshits like you that use twisted, perverted circular and extrapolar logic to create a fictitious situation that just doesnt exist to deflect attention from the real issue .... because you start characterizing policies to deal with the real issues as desciminatory, racist or whatever the fuck.

You weren't talking about the people that commit the crimes you talked about taking away rights from a group of people based on their socio-economic status.

You have shit for brains.
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no, rich people just murder and get away with it like o.j. simpson and claus von bulow
yeah. OJ sucks. He is still looking for the killers on every golf course in South Florida.

Thats what happens when you have a bunch of sniveling liberal asshole attorneys with no conscience, acting out of self interest and caring only about self promotion.
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You weren't talking about the people that commit the crimes you talked about taking away rights from a group of people based on their socio-economic status.

You have shit for brains.
i began by making a simple sarcastic remark that was clearly meant to be humorous.

you are the fucking idiot that extrapolated that into some sort Hitler-like approach to dealing with criminals that are the actual ones committing the crimes.

say what you want... but you cannot prove to me that the people committing violent crimes with guns are spread out equally across the socio-economic spectrum.

poor people with guns commit the vast majority of violent crimes with guns. take it to mean whatever you want.

should someone take away my right to own a gun because crack dealers shoot each other all day long?

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i began by making a simple sarcastic remark that was clearly meant to be humorous.

you are the fucking idiot that extrapolated that into some sort Hitler-like approach to dealing with criminals that are the actual ones committing the crimes.

say what you want... but you cannot prove to me that the number of poor people committing violent crimes with guns and middle and upper class is spread out equally across the socio-economic spectrum.

poor people with guns commit the vast majority of violent crimes with guns. take it to mean whatever you want.

should someone take away my right to own a gun because crack dealers shoot each other all day long?
I think you're right - there are more poor people commiting violent crimes than the rich. Poor people are also convicted of these crimes in greater proportions because they dont have access to good representation
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I think you're right - there are more poor people commiting violent crimes than the rich. Poor people are also convicted of these crimes in greater proportions because they dont have access to good representation
thats a very ugly thing about our legal system... among the other flaws. i remember my friend got charged with felony assault and the public defender arranged for him to plea guilty and go to jail before even interviewing my friend. so, i gave him 5000.00, he hired an attorney and when it was all over, the other guy ended up going to jail.
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*Ok so she ratted out a drug dealer, same thing. Thats about the only way 70 rounds come your way, unless you're drunk & stumble onto a military firing range.*

Sheesh, You know shit about very little and "assume" the rest... so shut the fuck up asshole...
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Fortunately I live in Pennsylvania which has one of those "right to carry laws". I carry a pistol about 90% of the time when I go out.

Sure, thousands of idiots are maimed or killed when they shoot themselves in the face or whatever. But there is a ZERO percent chance of that happening to someone who is trained and not an idiot, and my wife and kids know gun safety too.

Sadly today, as in all times, the world is violent. As soon as that violence ends I'll be turning in my guns for good. Let me know when that happens.

See how Isarel has handled the gun issue - http://www.fareastmedia.com/shoppinginIsrael1.mpeg


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Rich people pay poor people to murder their enemies.

Aaron,

Funny how you have 50 types of different weapons, why?
Surely you can only use 1 or 2 in a dangerous situation?

But I guess it isn't uncommon to collect guns as hobby in the US

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Banning all guns is the stupidest idea I've ever heard. How often are crimes commited with legal weapons? The criminal will continue to have illegal weapons, and they will be free to attack all the defenseless innocent law-abiding citizen. Think, people.
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Banning gun ownership would KILL the US economy and all the weapon producing companies in the US.

Not going to happen.
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Homer Simpson goes gun shopping.

http://www.freegreymatter.com/expand...Gun%20Shop.mp3
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Aaron,

Funny how you have 50 types of different weapons, why?
Surely you can only use 1 or 2 in a dangerous situation?

But I guess it isn't uncommon to collect guns as hobby in the US

;-)
That is one reason....another is so I have the right tool for the job.

A mechanic has more than one wrench.

At this point I keep them because I enjoy shooting various types of weapons. Maybe someday I will open the vault and shoot a few pics of the contents in there.



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