buzzy

you dont seem to be keeping your govt in check.....

D

One of my favorite quotes - and one that I use often - is from Einstein:

"Intelligence solves problems; Genius prevents them."

Regarding Bush - we're in the process of staging a peaceful Revolution right now... Americans get an opportunity at those once every 4 years.

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Dirty F

Not only are you a lunatic you're also a fag. And i bet you breath stinks like cheese.

DirtyDanza

same with you.. go drink some tea...


btw here is your super safe country




Netherlands;

Variable Amount/description Rank
Crime > Assaults 44,129 [14th of 58]
Crime > Car thefts (per capita) 2.33559 per 1,000 people [15th of 55]
Crime > Drug offences 47 per 100,000 people [20th of 36]
Crime > Illicit drugs
major European producer of ecstasy, illicit amphetamines, and other synthetic drugs; important gateway for cocaine, heroin, and hashish entering Europe; major source of US-bound ecstasy; large financial sector vulnerable to money laundering
Crime > Murders 183 [40th of 63]
Crime > Murders (per capita) 0.0111538 per 1,000 people [51st of 62]
Crime > Rapes 1,648 [20th of 66]
Crime > Rapes (per capita) 0.100445 per 1,000 people [22nd of 65]
Crime > Total crimes 1,305,640 [14th of 61]
Crime > Total crimes (per capita) 79.5779 per 1,000 people



so tell me how crime is "non existent" in holland

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Dirty F

Remember to listen to Americans everyone because...uhm...because they have a huge fucking gun problem over there...oh wait, that didnt make much sense.

aico

If I owned a gun it wouldn't be for protection, it would be for a hobby to shoot at targets, what does that make me?

buzzy

yeah and pretty much every year you seem to elect a worse leader than the previous. that's not a revolution.

V_RocKs

No.. they don't... Iran is a tyranny... Yes, they had an election... but it was all staged. Ask any Iranian in America that left Iran because of the bullshit.

Ask any nation without its head up its ass. Australia, New Zealand, South Korea, Japan, China, most of Europe...

YOU ARE A SHEEP. You bought into the argument true tyranists have made in order to throw you off of them. I really expected more from you. You have said so many smart things in the past, however, you cannot read between the lines on this issue?

Imperialism went out with the cold war. The only imperialists around now are corporations.. De'Beers for one. Oil companies... you get the idea.

In Africa the PEOPLE don't have guns... The thugs and tyrants do. If you gave the 3 million refuges in a camp each a gun and showed them how to use it they could fix Africa themselves.

There problem is really one of segregation and not guns. They talk about us being bigots but try going to Africa and seeing their bigotry first hand. The entire continent is nothing but bigotry. Tribal bigotry. They don't have a huge quilt of a country like we do. They have small individual blankets and all of them want to kill thy neighbor.

I wish America would go in and grab the 18% that aren't bigots and then just stop giving aid to the rest. Let them do what ever they want to do to themselves and stop worrying about it.

pr0

i think you're simply afraid of guns because you're too frail to shoot one

D

Well... don't look at me.

I haven't voted for a winner in nearly ten years!

The point is that, generally, the majority consent is what controls who governs. The moment Americans realize a loss of that power is when the Second Amendment is key to moving forward.

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Dirty F

United States 0.042 per 1000 people

Funny how its more while every criminal will think twice because many people have guns there.

buzzy

You usually make good posts but saying Iran is a tyranny then calling someone else a sheep is totally contradictory, Iran has legitamte elections which over 80% of the population participate in. They are not staged. A tyranny is a country that starts pre emptive wars for the sake of profit and constantly defys the will of the people, this is NOT iran, this is america.

Dirty F

You got me! You're so smart! (for a hick).

No seriously man, you're like one of the smartest people in this thread with great arguments why guns are good...no really

Dirty F

If you gave 3 million refugees in a camp guns there would be 100 people left after 24 hours

Oh my god, you people are fucking insane. Seriously. No other person in the western world has these insane thoughts but Americans. Why you think that the whole world laughs at America. Its because of their ideas and things they say like the example above.

Your country is the ONLY western country with a massive gun problem and here you are saying more people should get more guns

Gabriel

I love America!!!

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Dirty F

Remember to listen to Americans everyone because...uhm...because they have a huge fucking gun problem over there...oh wait, that didnt make much sense.

Sorry, i had to use that again, i think it pretty much sums up this whole thread and the idiots posting in it.

Dirty F

Burglaries per capita

Holland
5.55531 per 1,000 people

US:
7.09996 per 1,000 people

Thats because in the US a burglar will think twice because so many people have a gun at home

D

Like pretty much all of your logic in this thread.

I think you've done a poor job in showing how it's a gun "problem."

I still see it as a gun "freedom."

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theking

The "pre emtive" war was the will of the people by 70 + %...thank you very much.

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juz

I own a gun because the constitution says I can

Now is it safer that our society has that ability versus one that doesn't?
I have no idea since there is not another of our size with the same socio economic and racial divide as the USA to compare to.

To the OP, do you live here in The USA? If not why do you give a fuck if we are allowed to own guns?

If you do live here, don't think it would easier for you to move to another country that has the gun laws you want instead of trying to convince 50 million people they are wrong.

just something to chew on for awhile

DirtyDanza

see here is the thing .... if franck had half a brain he would choose to debate rather than act like a douche bag... see the thing is even though I firmly think we should al owns guns... I also think that you should have to show proper training with said weapon... I agree with franck that guns are way to easy to get here... way to easy... I think owning one is great.. but know how to use it...


I agree if you handed 25 million people who have no idea how to use a gun there will be issues... now you had 25 million people who are trained to use a gun then you got saftey.... botttom line

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scottybuzz

whats the fucking point in owning a gun, its completely retarded. fuck the gun lovers around here. fuck you. what positive impact can a gun have? none . so you know what fuckyourself. i mean that in the most horrible way, because guns are fucking horrible. im drunk i know, but fuck guns . fuck them. fuck them all, i wish they were never created, fuck guns in the ass. perioud

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scottybuzz

its never going to happen, which is why NOONE should own a gun.

end of story period, i think u answered your own counter argument with that one. end of debate.

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Dirty F

Here, i'm calling you a lunatic again, what are you gonna do about it? Shoot me? I bet you pull your gun if i was standing in front of you now, wouldnt you, you pussy faggot twink.

juz

Very elegantly spoken..
While you are entitled to your opinion, I for one am glad it is the minority opinion here in the US.

TheDoc

No, that's because 2/3 of our low income population doesn't report this crime.

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only one way to find out.... I'll see you soon sweetie... got your addy now... if I had friends like you do I would not need enemies... (thank you, you know who you are)
don't worry I gotta go through memphis before I hit the amsterdam flight.. so you got some time to get some rest there little darlin... oh and im not bringing any guns either.. I just wanna come cuddle...

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V_RocKs

To get rid of evil you unfortunately have to kill it.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life

bullets are stronger than words. end of arguement...

theking

Like the logo said...reach out and touch someone. Nancy boy...you better clean up your hootch...it appears that company is on the way.

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DirtyDanza

isint holland where all those big paintings were just stole at gunpoint?

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Dirty F

God, you are truly a lunatic.

scottybuzz

lol please, tell me you have heard the pen is stronger than the sword.

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lol

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Dirty F

I cant wait till guns become legal in Holland and instead of a few criminals everybody will get a gun! It would give me such a safe feeling! I bet crime rates will drop like crazy.

buzzy

these arent the words of a sane person.

Violetta

The gun politics in america are just sad.

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juz

What concern of it is yours?
Seriously why are euros so up in arms over one of our domestic policies?
Frankly its none your god damn business since it has no effect on you, you wanna bitch about our foreign policies go ahead, I'll join with you.

But in case you forgot, our for fathers left your neck of the woods several hundred years ago to get away from your holier then thou attitude of telling us what to do, you'd think you guys would get the hint by now.

scardog

I have a question...Who is the bigger retard. A guy that exercises his right to have a gun, or the guy that calls a bunch of anonymous people that own guns retards, while letting them know there is know way he has one?

DirtyProfits

In which century do you live? Do you really think guns in private households would stop another country to invade yours? In Irak probably every other family has a AK-47, did that stop the US from invading? If there would be a war they would nuke the shit out of your area first. If you live in a westen country chances of getting invaded are almost 0% anyway. Most countries have close relationships with eachother nowadays.

FightThisPatent

i'll take 25M people who aren't criminals with guns over a few thousand criminals with guns.

Note, we do have gun laws.. like in Florida, if you use a gun during a crime, you automatically get 20 years... gun laws are aimed at criminals, not law-abiding citizens.. but if a law abiding citizen does something stupid like shoot his neighbor because he is cutting his lawn at 5am every monday morning, then that's what the the laws are for.
Fight the short answer!

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buzzy

Really? I'd rather take the latter

Roald

Is that before or after you are fighting kimbo?

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Topless porn stars shooting guns!

FightThisPatent

criminals have guns because they want to use them.

law abiding citizens have guns with the wish that they don't have to use them, unless its for recreational sport like going to a gun range and practicing marksmanship.


Fight the people who use guns to kill people!

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buzzy

IMO law abding citizens own guns because they are weak and need something that gives them a sense of power and superiority than the people that surround them. you could call it an ego problem, i dont know.

FightThisPatent

i am a law abiding citizen

i own a gun

i am not weak

i don't feel powerful with agun, i feel that i have some form of defense in case my house gets broken into, because my neighbors house was broken into.

i don't have an ego problem

I don'feel superior to anyone.

I am using my right under the US consititition and State laws to own a firearm.

There really isn't much of debate. until the supreme court rules that gun ownership is unconstitutional, this isn't a debate, its just moral philosophies that add up to nothing the day you are personally confronted with a home crime situation where you could have done something to prevent a bad outcome.


Fight the personal choices!

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As far as the issue of how to other people in other countries sleep at night, where they don't have a gun because its not allowed.. thats not the issue either. if i live in a false sense of security that having a firearm will allow me to protect me home, then thats my right, because the law allows me that right. If i believe i have a magic force field shield around the house that knows to keep bad people out, then that's my own (crazy) choice, but it is just that, my choice, not anyone else's to decide or judge.

Fight the what would jesus do with a .45!

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severe

very simple answer: it's my right

ChefJeff

Gosh no comments about the photo of the porn star with the gun? LOL

I cherish my right to own a gun. I hope it never, ever happens, but if an armed burgler rboke in to my house, I would defend my life and property, that is my right.

yuu.design

i think guns are evil created by devil , the only thing they do is kill more innocents people .

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