minusonebit, I've TERMINATED you from ARS - Page 4 - GoFuckYourself.com

SmokeyTheBear · 01-06-2008, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by pornask

Terminating minusonebit was actually a service done to him. I doubt he would want to continue promoting a program that shaves. This step just saved him from having to ask for it himself.

BUMP for more affiliates who may not yet know how ARS conduct business, what kind of name calling they resort to when addressing their affiliates and what fake drama they create to make themselves look trendy.

better add playboy , realitycash and nastydollars to the list , none of them pass along your webmaster ref code, infact it might be easier to list the programs that DO pass along ref codes because they are few and far between.

baddog · 01-06-2008, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ARS Michelle

Apparently you know Becky very well lol

I think you missed my point.

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Originally Posted by ARS Michelle

If Becky knew you talking this way about her...you don't even want to know.

Yeah, guess I was right.

baddog · 01-06-2008, 07:04 PM

Just for the record, SexPicturesPass does pass along the webmaster referral code.

pornask · 01-06-2008, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

better add playboy , realitycash and nastydollars to the list ,

Would these programs also resort to name calling and personal attacks instead of addressing (or clarifying) the issue? Cause ARS definitely does. Bryan character is an undisputed proof of it.

Deej · 01-06-2008, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

what if he just started working for ARS six months ago or a year ago? how would he know who Serge is? I doubt ARS sits down new employees and gives them a history of the adult Internet course - might be a good idea though.

im not anyones afifliate manager (anymore) but i know who serge is ... even after he changes his nick every 4 months...

I make it a point to learn who everyone is...

what they do..

how well they do it...

and what is said about their practices...

youre right, it should be a mini course in every Affiliate managers job...

01-06-2008, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

better add playboy , realitycash and nastydollars to the list , none of them pass along your webmaster ref code, infact it might be easier to list the programs that DO pass along ref codes because they are few and far between.

I agree. Only one I can think of off hand is epiccash. Baddog mentioned sexpicturespass too. I can't think of anymore.

This would be a very short list.

SmokeyTheBear · 01-06-2008, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by pornask

Would these programs also resort to name calling and personal attacks instead of addressing (or clarifying) the issue? Cause ARS definitely does. Bryan character is an undisputed proof of it.

what does that have to do with the accusation you made that they shaved ?

let me ask you this , you promote saphiccash , they don't pass along your webmaster ref code. would you feel the statement "saphiccash shaves" is appropriate ?

I thought he made a good effort to help the guy and the guy turned around and made serious unfounded accusations .

There are correct ways to go about these things. I have called out many sponsors for traffic leaks , but i wouldnt start off the thread by acusing them of shaving. especially if i had not done my homework first and was infact wrong

01-06-2008, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by pornask

Would these programs also resort to name calling and personal attacks instead of addressing (or clarifying) the issue? Cause ARS definitely does. Bryan character is an undisputed proof of it.

When they are outed as being a shady company on a site called kissaturd, I believe they probably would react that way. That, or they might take legal action instead.

A normal person brings up the issue by asking a question. A crazy person makes a blog post about it on a site that is basically accusing companies of being thieves. Perhaps you should look at the way the issue was presented to them first before you start judging the programs for their reaction.

MichelleB · 01-06-2008, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

I think you missed my point.

Yeah, guess I was right.

LOL got it ty

pornask · 01-06-2008, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

I thought he made a good effort to help the guy and the guy turned around and made serious unfounded accusations .

I'm sorry Smokey, but I must have missed something. Can you kindly point me to the post by this Bryan character where he actually makes "good effort" to help a guy? I can definitely point you to a few of his where he resorts to name calling and personal attacks. That's no the type of behavior I would expect from a program. Regardless of how many ass kissers they have on this board...

baddog · 01-06-2008, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by pornask

I'm sorry Smokey, but I must have missed something. Can you kindly point me to the post by this Bryan character where he actually makes "good effort" to help a guy? ...

Did you read the first post?

01-06-2008, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by pornask

I'm sorry Smokey, but I must have missed something. Can you kindly point me to the post by this Bryan character where he actually makes "good effort" to help a guy? I can definitely point you to a few of his where he resorts to name calling and personal attacks. That's no the type of behavior I would expect from a program. Regardless of how many ass kissers they have on this board...

He showed him where to sign up, (he couldn't find their url), showed him where to get the RSS feeds, waived him sending in the proper paperwork just because he didn't want to yet. What else did he have to do? Buy some traffic for him?

CDSmith · 01-06-2008, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

what does that have to do with the accusation you made that they shaved ?

let me ask you this , you promote saphiccash , they don't pass along your webmaster ref code. would you feel the statement "saphiccash shaves" is appropriate ?

I thought he made a good effort to help the guy and the guy turned around and made serious unfounded accusations .

There are correct ways to go about these things. I have called out many sponsors for traffic leaks , but i wouldnt start off the thread by acusing them of shaving. especially if i had not done my homework first and was infact wrong

Spot-on correct, every word.

If after reading this and the first post of this thread someone still doesn't get it, well,

then they just don't get it, period.

pornask · 01-06-2008, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Did you read the first post?

are you talkig about this one --> https://gfy.com/13613836-post23.html

first post that Bryan character made to respond to the thread? He went on to calling an affiliate "FUCKING IDIOT" and threw a number of threats around. Great way for a program to respond. I just want all affiliates to see this and make their own decision. BUMP

Supz · 01-06-2008, 07:34 PM

i guess what you did was the right thing to do, and not judge a book, but typically, if it smells like shit, feels like shit, tastes like shit, ITS SHIT

01-06-2008, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by pornask

are you talkig about this one --> https://gfy.com/13613836-post23.html

first post that Bryan character made to respond to the thread? He went on to calling an affiliate "FUCKING IDIOT" and threw a number of threats around. Great way for a program to respond. I just want all affiliates to see this and make their own decision. BUMP

Actually he was referring to this post:

https://gfy.com/13614025-post1.html

You seem to be overlooking the fact that the way he brought the issue up to ARS was by making this site:

XXXX://www.kissaturd.com/

"Do you work in the adult entertainment industry? Are you up to something shitty? Do you make a living by doing dishonest, shitty or evil things to your business partners, affiliates or customers? If this sounds like you, guess what: you can kiss a turd!"

How would you respond if your company was the very first "investigation" featured on a site that is suppose to expose adult industry thieves? (especially when he didn't even have the facts right)

baddog · 01-06-2008, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by pornask

are you talkig about this one --> https://gfy.com/13613836-post23.html

first post that Bryan character made to respond to the thread? He went on to calling an affiliate "FUCKING IDIOT" and threw a number of threats around. Great way for a program to respond. I just want all affiliates to see this and make their own decision. BUMP

No, I meant this one: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...25&postcount=1

and the affiliate in question is an idiot.

Meloman · 01-06-2008, 07:44 PM

ARS Rocks!

Awesome program that converts!

1. Minusonebit does come off as a crazy loon that is out to simply start drama.

2. Minusonebit could have easily brought this to ARS's attention in PRIVATE (like true professionals do)...but he obviously didn't cause he thrives on the drama and he needs something to blog about. Minusonebit you are 100000% in the wrong about all this and the way u handled it. You simply prooved everyone's opinion about u rather than actually helping webmasters.

3. It seems that ARS Bryan went out of his way to help minusonebit and then got back stabed. I can understand why ARS Bryan is mad. Getting bothered on a sunday about an idiot affiliate would piss anyone off! Especially when it's a needy webmaster that's buggged u from day 1. And the thread/post Minus made was COMPLETELY idiotic and shows his lack of industry knowledge.

4. I agree that name calling does look unprofessional. ARS is 100% in the right to ban this affiliate. They are 100% in the right to even post it on GFY/JBM etc.. It does in fact let others know what a loonatic minusonebit is......BUT it should have been done without the name calling.

My personal opinion is that the big big companies in adult look 100% more professional and in the end will come out on top when the personal name calling is left out and things are left strictly business...IMHO

But at the same time AFF has been in drama threads... Serge is all about the drama....RonLevi, BradShaw, 12clicks and other successful people have all had there share of unprofessional drama threads. So drama might not exactly be a bad thing. Seems like epiccash was completely built on Trey's drama. So a thread like this most likely simply helps ARS get more attention and sales and really doesn't look unproffesional to most people.

So MY personal opinion is that Bryan is in the wrong by acting childish and name calling....BUT he's 1000000000% right in his banning and posting about it...I simply would have liked to see a "proffessional" type press release way of posting about it rather than the typical "haha fuck u" type of response....but like I've said, virtually every big company is guilty of doing the same thing at one point or another. And I might act in the SAME exact way..so who am I to judge..

But in the end.. ARS ROCKS! They have AWESOME affiliate support. They are a VERY honest company that's been around forever and have a great reputation. I would recommend them to anyone! How ONE single employee acts on a webmaster board shouldn't be an indication of the whole company.

So fuck minusonebit....and everyone get ur ARS links up!

yys · 01-06-2008, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by pornask

are you talkig about this one --> https://gfy.com/13613836-post23.html

first post that Bryan character made to respond to the thread? He went on to calling an affiliate "FUCKING IDIOT" and threw a number of threats around. Great way for a program to respond. I just want all affiliates to see this and make their own decision. BUMP

lol give it up already. All anyone with half a brain is going to see is an employee of ARS standing up for his company when some mentally unstable idiot started throwing false accusations out about his companies practices.

Bryan called a spade a spade and dealt with the chump in a timely and appropriate manner for GoFuckYourself.com . You might have a point if he sent that out on letterhead to someone they were doing BUSINESS with but then they weren't really doing any business with this Keith were they.

ARS is a stand up program and anyone who wouldn't work with them over Bryan's post needs to give their head a shake.

pornask · 01-06-2008, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

No, I meant this one: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...25&postcount=1

and the affiliate in question is an idiot.

I don't get it. Why do people think a guy should get a golden medal for doing his job. If a character gets paid to deal with affiliates and help them out, how come performing his day to day tasks he is assigned to do is considered extra nice approach?

I see hoards of ass kisser who will continue their brown nosing regardless of how blatant truth is. The readership of this board goes far beyond the ass kissers. Those are the people who deserve to know what kind of treatment they can expect if they become affiliates of ARS. That's all I have to say about that. Everyone is welcome to continue kissing an ass of their choice. Regardless of how filthy it is.

yahoo-xxx-girls.com · 01-06-2008, 08:00 PM

Bump ...

CDSmith · 01-06-2008, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by pornask

I don't get it. Why do people think a guy should get a golden medal for doing his job. If a character gets paid to deal with affiliates and help them out, how come performing his day to day tasks he is assigned to do is considered extra nice approach?

I see hoards of ass kisser who will continue their brown nosing regardless of how blatant truth is. The readership of this board goes far beyond the ass kissers. Those are the people who deserve to know what kind of treatment they can expect if they become affiliates of ARS. That's all I have to say about that. Everyone is welcome to continue kissing an ass of their choice. Regardless of how filthy it is.

The problem with your point of view is that many here (including lurkers) have been ARS affiliates for many years, from pre-2000 days (including myself), NONE of whom have had to be "handled" like this. Why? Simple... because none have acted like this guy has. Most if not all would have the sense to talk over a concern with the program first before taking it to the boards. Issues like this read a whole lot differently once you've done all you can do in private first, but the problem there is that it's usually not as drama-worthy then.

It's not about ass-kissing, it's more about seeing an issue for what it is, in this case minusonebit again shooting his mouth off and getting his ass handed to him. Period.

You do have one thing right... the first line in your post -- "I don't get it"

On that we agree.

MichelleB · 01-06-2008, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Meloman

ARS Rocks!

Awesome program that converts!

1. Minusonebit does come off as a crazy loon that is out to simply start drama.

2. Minusonebit could have easily brought this to ARS's attention in PRIVATE (like true professionals do)...but he obviously didn't cause he thrives on the drama and he needs something to blog about. Minusonebit you are 100000% in the wrong about all this and the way u handled it. You simply prooved everyone's opinion about u rather than actually helping webmasters.

3. It seems that ARS Bryan went out of his way to help minusonebit and then got back stabed. I can understand why ARS Bryan is mad. Getting bothered on a sunday about an idiot affiliate would piss anyone off! Especially when it's a needy webmaster that's buggged u from day 1. And the thread/post Minus made was COMPLETELY idiotic and shows his lack of industry knowledge.

4. I agree that name calling does look unprofessional. ARS is 100% in the right to ban this affiliate. They are 100% in the right to even post it on GFY/JBM etc.. It does in fact let others know what a loonatic minusonebit is......BUT it should have been done without the name calling.

My personal opinion is that the big big companies in adult look 100% more professional and in the end will come out on top when the personal name calling is left out and things are left strictly business...IMHO

But at the same time AFF has been in drama threads... Serge is all about the drama....RonLevi, BradShaw, 12clicks and other successful people have all had there share of unprofessional drama threads. So drama might not exactly be a bad thing. Seems like epiccash was completely built on Trey's drama. So a thread like this most likely simply helps ARS get more attention and sales and really doesn't look unproffesional to most people.

So MY personal opinion is that Bryan is in the wrong by acting childish and name calling....BUT he's 1000000000% right in his banning and posting about it...I simply would have liked to see a "proffessional" type press release way of posting about it rather than the typical "haha fuck u" type of response....but like I've said, virtually every big company is guilty of doing the same thing at one point or another. And I might act in the SAME exact way..so who am I to judge..

But in the end.. ARS ROCKS! They have AWESOME affiliate support. They are a VERY honest company that's been around forever and have a great reputation. I would recommend them to anyone! How ONE single employee acts on a webmaster board shouldn't be an indication of the whole company.

So fuck minusonebit....and everyone get ur ARS links up!

Thank you Meloman, and in Bryan's defence sometimes you just have to blow off some stink when someone is trying to use and abuse

SmokeyTheBear · 01-06-2008, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by pornask

I don't get it. Why do people think a guy should get a golden medal for doing his job. If a character gets paid to deal with affiliates and help them out, how come performing his day to day tasks he is assigned to do is considered extra nice approach?

i dont remember anyone asking for a medal or suggesting a medal or even a medals being mentioned until you brought it up..

Nor do i see what any of that has to do with the accusation you made that ars shaves. nor did you answer my question. I will repeat it incase you forgot.

You promote saphiccash, they do not track webmaster ref codes. do you think it would be appropriate to say "saphiccash shaves" ? will you stop using them ?

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Originally Posted by pornask

I see hoards of ass kisser who will continue their brown nosing regardless of how blatant truth is.

what truth ? you mean the false accusation you made against ars ?

you do realise that many people including myself don't promote ars and dont know anyone there and still think making false allegations are wrong.

Why don't you start by apologizing for making false allegations about ars. then you might begin to have any sort of argument , until then you are just a blatant liar.

Bojangles · 01-06-2008, 09:38 PM

CDSmith · 01-06-2008, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bojangles

Great post.

Your incredible insite into the inner heart of the issues has been invaluable.

I salute you.

lazycash · 01-06-2008, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

i dont remember anyone asking for a medal or suggesting a medal or even a medals being mentioned until you brought it up..

Nor do i see what any of that has to do with the accusation you made that ars shaves. nor did you answer my question. I will repeat it incase you forgot.

You promote saphiccash, they do not track webmaster ref codes. do you think it would be appropriate to say "saphiccash shaves" ? will you stop using them ?

what truth ? you mean the false accusation you made against ars ?

you do realise that many people including myself don't promote ars and dont know anyone there and still think making false allegations are wrong.

Why don't you start by apologizing for making false allegations about ars. then you might begin to have any sort of argument , until then you are just a blatant liar.

Bump for lots of good questions and still no answers from pornask

pornask · 01-06-2008, 10:05 PM

Smokey, you're making yourself look like a tool. All of Sapphic galleries I have ever promoted have aff codes in all links, including 2257 link. There are no webmaster links on their galleries. I'm not sure what kind of galleries you have, but all of their promo emails with latest FHGs I recieve look like that - all of the links contain aff code, incl 2257 one and there is no webmaster link on there. Webmaster link is available from the website itself which you can access from links provided on a gallery page. In which case webmaster link will be properly linked with the code again.

I don't know why you are having troubles adding two and two but I guess we are not all born equal. What do you call it, when sponsors offer free hosted galleries that have a link which is does not contain affiliate code? It doesn't matter how significant a number of webmasters may sign up with a program through a link in a gallery you promote. It's still a traffic for which if there was an affiliate code, you would be credited for. Isn't this the meaning of shaving - leaking webmasters traffic by providing direct links to parts of a website, for which the affiliate otherwise got paid if there was a legitimate sign up? Is blatant asskissing you are demonstrating here really worth making yourself look like a tool?

SmokeyTheBear · 01-06-2008, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by pornask

Smokey, you're making yourself look like a tool.

i am making myself look like a tool by you making false allegations of shaving LOL

go ahead start a poll and ask if leaving a ref code off webmaster links is "shaving" , prove me wrong.

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Originally Posted by pornask

There are no webmaster links on their galleries.

so by your reasoning , leaving your ref code off of webmasters links is shaving , but only if its on the galleries , if they do it on the main site then its not shaving ..

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Originally Posted by pornask

Webmaster link is available from the website itself which you can access from links provided on a gallery page. In which case webmaster link will be properly linked with the code again.

no they dont , the webmaster links have the sites nats code on them.

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Originally Posted by pornask

Isn't this the meaning of shaving -

leaking webmasters traffic by providing direct links to parts of a website,

no it is not , i think someone has misled you

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Originally Posted by pornask

Is blatant asskissing you are demonstrating here really worth making yourself look like a tool?

since i have already pointed out i don't promote ars nor do i know anyone there , you must either have a problem reading english or you are just plain stupid.

But i think you prob already gathered that by the fact nobody agrees with you, infact quite the opposite.

ARS Bryan · 01-07-2008, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by pornask

Wow, this is awesome. So a guy posts an undesputed proof that a program shaves (webmaster link has no affiliate code in it) and to get it resolved, program rep terminates his account. I sure hope many potential affiliates get to read this so they know who they'd be dealing with. This thread deserves many a BUMP!

Dude do you even know what the fuck you're talking about? Proof of us shaving??? WHAT?

We don't shave you fucking moron.

Do you know ANYTHING about minusonebit? Have you seen his other threads? Stay out of my thread and go troll somewhere else

ARS Bryan · 01-07-2008, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

If one is new, they should probably do some research before pissing with someone.

baddog, please read that I didn't start any trouble with this guy. He went out of his way to hop in the thread and mess with me probably for fun and I just retaliated.

ARS Bryan · 01-07-2008, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

I realize you now know who it is you've been pissing with, but man... did you seriously not know it was Serge?

Now thank him, because your thread is now going from a measly 2 pages to 5+ :D

No one I talked to knew the GFY nick "NoComments" was "Serge"

AdultInsider Cloner · 01-07-2008, 12:19 AM

heh... gotta love em..... you have to admit though it IS gratifying to press that BAN button ;)

ARS Bryan · 01-07-2008, 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meloman

ARS Rocks!

Awesome program that converts!

1. Minusonebit does come off as a crazy loon that is out to simply start drama.

2. Minusonebit could have easily brought this to ARS's attention in PRIVATE (like true professionals do)...but he obviously didn't cause he thrives on the drama and he needs something to blog about. Minusonebit you are 100000% in the wrong about all this and the way u handled it. You simply prooved everyone's opinion about u rather than actually helping webmasters.

3. It seems that ARS Bryan went out of his way to help minusonebit and then got back stabed. I can understand why ARS Bryan is mad. Getting bothered on a sunday about an idiot affiliate would piss anyone off! Especially when it's a needy webmaster that's buggged u from day 1. And the thread/post Minus made was COMPLETELY idiotic and shows his lack of industry knowledge.

4. I agree that name calling does look unprofessional. ARS is 100% in the right to ban this affiliate. They are 100% in the right to even post it on GFY/JBM etc.. It does in fact let others know what a loonatic minusonebit is......BUT it should have been done without the name calling.

My personal opinion is that the big big companies in adult look 100% more professional and in the end will come out on top when the personal name calling is left out and things are left strictly business...IMHO

But at the same time AFF has been in drama threads... Serge is all about the drama....RonLevi, BradShaw, 12clicks and other successful people have all had there share of unprofessional drama threads. So drama might not exactly be a bad thing. Seems like epiccash was completely built on Trey's drama. So a thread like this most likely simply helps ARS get more attention and sales and really doesn't look unproffesional to most people.

So MY personal opinion is that Bryan is in the wrong by acting childish and name calling....BUT he's 1000000000% right in his banning and posting about it...I simply would have liked to see a "proffessional" type press release way of posting about it rather than the typical "haha fuck u" type of response....but like I've said, virtually every big company is guilty of doing the same thing at one point or another. And I might act in the SAME exact way..so who am I to judge..

But in the end.. ARS ROCKS! They have AWESOME affiliate support. They are a VERY honest company that's been around forever and have a great reputation. I would recommend them to anyone! How ONE single employee acts on a webmaster board shouldn't be an indication of the whole company.

So fuck minusonebit....and everyone get ur ARS links up!

Thanks Meloman!

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 01-07-2008, 12:25 AM

How hte mother fucK this get to 4 paGEz???

ARS Bryan · 01-07-2008, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

How hte mother fucK this get to 4 paGEz???

lol good question.

To all of the readers out there:

Don't expect someone who does not spend 100% of their time on the boards (which seems like a lot of you do) to know who someone is that often changes nicks. Sorry, I have better things to do (like actually working) and meant no disrespect to Serge.

minusonebit is still a loser

Darkhorse · 01-07-2008, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ARS Bryan

minusonebit is still a loser

Quoted for truth.....

RAM · 01-07-2008, 12:33 AM

yes slowly but surely we can get rid of MinusOneBrian

commonsense · 01-07-2008, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by RAM

yes slowly but surely we can get rid of MinusOneBrian

Freudian Slip?

Meloman · 01-07-2008, 01:22 AM

Shaving to most people means the deliberate removal of affiliate sales from accounts. The deliberate "shaving" or not crediting the correct amount after a legitimate sign-up happens. It's when a surfer clicks your affiliate link, goes to the tour, actually signups up and then you're NOT credited with the sale.

That's what most people consider "shaving". It's the equivalant of stealing in most peoples eyes.

A traffic leak is something different.

Just symantics...but none the less "shaving" is something much worse than possible "traffic leaks".

And then when the traffic leaks are the 2257, webmaster & customer support link it just makes this whole thing funny. Those are hardly true "traffic leaks". Ok maybe the "webmaster" link could give the affiliate credit (if ars does that), or if these extra pages then have links back to the tours then maybe now they should carry the affilaite code all the way through. But really not a big deal in the big picture and are something completely different than true "shaving" as described above.

minusonebit · 01-07-2008, 01:28 AM

Maybe you'll explain the shaving function in your software to the rest of the non-terminated ARS webmasters.

https://gfy.com/13616876-post57.html

minusonebit · 01-07-2008, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Meloman

Shaving to most people means the deliberate removal of affiliate sales from accounts. The deliberate "shaving" or not crediting the correct amount after a legitimate sign-up happens. It's when a surfer clicks your affiliate link, goes to the tour, actually signups up and then you're NOT credited with the sale.

That's what most people consider "shaving". It's the equivalant of stealing in most peoples eyes.

A traffic leak is something different.

Just symantics...but none the less "shaving" is something much worse than possible "traffic leaks".

And then when the traffic leaks are the 2257, webmaster & customer support link it just makes this whole thing funny. Those are hardly true "traffic leaks". Ok maybe the "webmaster" link could give the affiliate credit (if ars does that), or if these extra pages then have links back to the tours then maybe now they should carry the affilaite code all the way through. But really not a big deal in the big picture and are something completely different than true "shaving" as described above.

Looks like they do that, too.

NoComments · 01-07-2008, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ARS Bryan

From NoComments' comments, I doubt he is anyone that she thinks highly of.

What she thinks of me is irrelevant. Do you care what webmasters who send traffic to ARS think of you wanking with minusonebit instead of fucking imaginary girlfriend?

What Becky thinks of you is more important than what she thinks of me. (which I'd love to asure you she is having fun as much as I do watching her employee making fool of himself)

NoComments · 01-07-2008, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ShaveBucks

You mean it's a secret that NoComments is Serge Oprano?
I'm sure many people could say some bad things about him.

Who is Serge Oprano? I know, I know, when I brand something, I BRAND SOMETHING.

Bad things about Serge Oprano?????
I can't think of any, NO SPONSOR was ever hurt when I was at the helm of that $2,500,000 net revenues organisation
main purpose of which was to tell everybody that they suck dick, how fast and how deep.

NoComments · 01-07-2008, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Peaches

I don't think Becky is one of them - unless they had a falling out recently.

Yes we do, after I published her pictures with Leone at
http://cotac.com/gallery/BeckyARS/
engaging in...oh well, I'm sure you all will figure it out what they were doing.

She slapped me with the law suit (no 2257) and I had to pay her $75,000 in compensatory damages.

NoComments · 01-07-2008, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ShaveBucks

I love that you live your life in "what if"s all day Serge. .

yes, I love analysing things and "what if" is one of the tools I use. Saved me lots of aggravation and saved from the bumps on the road where way to many broke their necks in the pit falls because they never bothered to answer the question "what if"?

NoComments · 01-07-2008, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ARS Michelle

If Becky knew you talking this way about her...you don't even want to know.

oh yes I do. Enlighten me.

NoComments · 01-07-2008, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

I think you missed my point.

Yeah, guess I was right.

she surely did
;)

the content guy · 01-07-2008, 02:06 AM

Hey Serge, long time...

NoComments · 01-07-2008, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

I realize you now know who it is you've been pissing with, but man... did you seriously not know it was Serge?

Now thank him, because your thread is now going from a measly 2 pages to 5+ :D

Only 5!? I haven't had my morning coffee yet, I betcha we'll have 7
;)

Becky, thanks for the offer to replace Bryan on GFY, but.....may I have his company car, but mine made in Germany? 401K? 5 year contract? and your permission to use
http://cotac.com/gallery/Becky any way I please?

01-06-2008, 08:00 PM	#171
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01-06-2008, 10:05 PM	#178
pornask So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: 253-233-241 Posts: 6,518	Smokey, you're making yourself look like a tool. All of Sapphic galleries I have ever promoted have aff codes in all links, including 2257 link. There are no webmaster links on their galleries. I'm not sure what kind of galleries you have, but all of their promo emails with latest FHGs I recieve look like that - all of the links contain aff code, incl 2257 one and there is no webmaster link on there. Webmaster link is available from the website itself which you can access from links provided on a gallery page. In which case webmaster link will be properly linked with the code again. I don't know why you are having troubles adding two and two but I guess we are not all born equal. What do you call it, when sponsors offer free hosted galleries that have a link which is does not contain affiliate code? It doesn't matter how significant a number of webmasters may sign up with a program through a link in a gallery you promote. It's still a traffic for which if there was an affiliate code, you would be credited for. Isn't this the meaning of shaving - leaking webmasters traffic by providing direct links to parts of a website, for which the affiliate otherwise got paid if there was a legitimate sign up? Is blatant asskissing you are demonstrating here really worth making yourself look like a tool? Last edited by pornask; 01-06-2008 at 10:06 PM..

01-07-2008, 12:19 AM	#183
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01-07-2008, 12:25 AM	#185
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01-07-2008, 12:33 AM	#188
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01-06-2008, 07:04 PM	#153
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	Just for the record, SexPicturesPass does pass along the webmaster referral code.

01-06-2008, 07:34 PM	#165
Supz Arthur Flegenheimer Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New York City Posts: 11,056	i guess what you did was the right thing to do, and not judge a book, but typically, if it smells like shit, feels like shit, tastes like shit, ITS SHIT

01-06-2008, 07:44 PM	#168
Meloman Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Sacramento,CA Posts: 1,540	ARS Rocks! Awesome program that converts! 1. Minusonebit does come off as a crazy loon that is out to simply start drama. 2. Minusonebit could have easily brought this to ARS's attention in PRIVATE (like true professionals do)...but he obviously didn't cause he thrives on the drama and he needs something to blog about. Minusonebit you are 100000% in the wrong about all this and the way u handled it. You simply prooved everyone's opinion about u rather than actually helping webmasters. 3. It seems that ARS Bryan went out of his way to help minusonebit and then got back stabed. I can understand why ARS Bryan is mad. Getting bothered on a sunday about an idiot affiliate would piss anyone off! Especially when it's a needy webmaster that's buggged u from day 1. And the thread/post Minus made was COMPLETELY idiotic and shows his lack of industry knowledge. 4. I agree that name calling does look unprofessional. ARS is 100% in the right to ban this affiliate. They are 100% in the right to even post it on GFY/JBM etc.. It does in fact let others know what a loonatic minusonebit is......BUT it should have been done without the name calling. My personal opinion is that the big big companies in adult look 100% more professional and in the end will come out on top when the personal name calling is left out and things are left strictly business...IMHO But at the same time AFF has been in drama threads... Serge is all about the drama....RonLevi, BradShaw, 12clicks and other successful people have all had there share of unprofessional drama threads. So drama might not exactly be a bad thing. Seems like epiccash was completely built on Trey's drama. So a thread like this most likely simply helps ARS get more attention and sales and really doesn't look unproffesional to most people. So MY personal opinion is that Bryan is in the wrong by acting childish and name calling....BUT he's 1000000000% right in his banning and posting about it...I simply would have liked to see a "proffessional" type press release way of posting about it rather than the typical "haha fuck u" type of response....but like I've said, virtually every big company is guilty of doing the same thing at one point or another. And I might act in the SAME exact way..so who am I to judge.. But in the end.. ARS ROCKS! They have AWESOME affiliate support. They are a VERY honest company that's been around forever and have a great reputation. I would recommend them to anyone! How ONE single employee acts on a webmaster board shouldn't be an indication of the whole company. So fuck minusonebit....and everyone get ur ARS links up!

01-06-2008, 09:38 PM	#175
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01-07-2008, 01:22 AM	#190
Meloman Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Sacramento,CA Posts: 1,540	Shaving to most people means the deliberate removal of affiliate sales from accounts. The deliberate "shaving" or not crediting the correct amount after a legitimate sign-up happens. It's when a surfer clicks your affiliate link, goes to the tour, actually signups up and then you're NOT credited with the sale. That's what most people consider "shaving". It's the equivalant of stealing in most peoples eyes. A traffic leak is something different. Just symantics...but none the less "shaving" is something much worse than possible "traffic leaks". And then when the traffic leaks are the 2257, webmaster & customer support link it just makes this whole thing funny. Those are hardly true "traffic leaks". Ok maybe the "webmaster" link could give the affiliate credit (if ars does that), or if these extra pages then have links back to the tours then maybe now they should carry the affilaite code all the way through. But really not a big deal in the big picture and are something completely different than true "shaving" as described above.

01-07-2008, 01:28 AM	#191
minusonebit So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: [email protected] Posts: 7,391	Maybe you'll explain the shaving function in your software to the rest of the non-terminated ARS webmasters. https://gfy.com/13616876-post57.html

01-07-2008, 02:06 AM	#199
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